Re[2]: [SAtalk] OT: examples of "email blocked due to spam, contact us here" webp age?

2003-11-06 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Paul, Wednesday, November 5, 2003, 10:15:17 AM, you wrote: PH> Problem is paranoia about blocking legit mail (not so PH> much on my part but my bosses). Paul, my MTA blocked email returns messages like this: 550 5.7.1 SPAM Domain blocked - See http://nospam.ourdomain.com/ The text on the

Re[2]: [SAtalk] [RD] Useless HTML Code

2003-10-30 Thread Abigail Marshall
CORRECTION TO RULES: Matt, I liked your rules and added them to my system and ran a debug, and it reported the following error: error> Bareword found where operator expected at rule error> MY_USELESS_S, line 1, near "/<\/s>/I" (Missing error> operator before I?) Failed to compile body error> Spam

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Can I delete ham/spam email once I run sa-learn on them w/o impacting the database?

2003-10-30 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Blake, Wednesday, October 29, 2003, 6:53:41 AM, you wrote: BTG> Also, any given email in my SPAM folder will only go BTG> through sa-learn a maximum of 7 times. But this should BTG> not matter. Question: Since once it's learned once, BTG> sa-learn ignores it, right? It depends on the size

Re: [SAtalk] Can I delete ham/spam email once I run sa-learn on them w/o impacting the database?

2003-10-28 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Blake, Tuesday, October 28, 2003, 7:27:20 PM, you wrote: BTG> I have two imap folders HAM and SPAM. SA 2.6 moves incoming spam as it BTG> finds it into SPAM. I have a cron job that runs sa-learn ham/spam BTG> nightly on these two folders. BTG> 2 - I have a ton of emails in SPAM. Is

Re[2]: [SAtalk] BAYES_* no longer appear in logs

2003-10-16 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Matt, Thursday, October 16, 2003, 3:16:42 PM, you wrote: MVG> Abigail, thank you for your suggestions. MVG> The only files I have in the .spamassassin directory are MVG> auto-whitelist MVG> auto-whitelist.db MVG> bayes_seen MVG> bayes_toks MVG> user_

Re: [SAtalk] BAYES_* no longer appear in logs

2003-10-16 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Matt, Wednesday, October 15, 2003, 12:23:21 PM, you wrote: MVG> Does the Bayesian filtering stop working if the MVG> database becomes too lopsided? It stops working if the database becomes corrupted, which can happen in various ways. The first thing you should do is look in your .spamassas

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn question

2003-10-04 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello German, Friday, October 3, 2003, 8:11:15 AM, you wrote: GS> Hi list, i have some questions about sa-learn. GS> It is possible to run sa-learn while spamd is running? GS> It is possible to run sa-learn --rebuild while spamd is running? Yes. -Abigail ---

Re: [SAtalk] Highest Score

2003-10-04 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Mike, Friday, October 3, 2003, 5:36:27 AM, you wrote: MC> Out of curiosity, what is the highest scoring anyone has seen SA give a MC> message? I had one come through at 37.54 the other day. I regularly see messages over 40 - for example, yesterday's log shows: Subject: [Spam Score: 42.40

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Re: Restart Spamd

2003-09-30 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Scott, Tuesday, September 30, 2003, 12:58:44 PM, you wrote: SR> Malte S. Stretz wrote: >> kill -HUP should work with SpamAssassin 2.60 under Perl 5.6.1 and up. I >> heard that it doesn't work for some people though. Just have a try. SR> Let me clarify: When I made a change to `local.cf'

Re: FW: Re[2]: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ?

2003-09-25 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello John, JS> Abigail, JS> If a user puts this recipe into their .procmail file, JS> where would the log entries be collected. (Sorry, but JS> I'm a procmail newbie) Thanks for the recipe. A log file is specified in the procmailrc file. Here are some tutorials: http://www.devshed.com/Server

[SAtalk] Bayes configuration questions

2003-09-24 Thread Abigail Marshall
Here's the issue: System: Running SA 2.54, FreeBSD Unix, Berkeley DB 1.85 (Hash, version 2): Problem: When bayes_toks grows to more than 5K, it becomes corrupted during sa-learn and ultimately trashed or lost. My solution: Set bayes_expiry_max_db_size to lower level to force expiry, so that baye

Re[2]: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ?

2003-09-23 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Stephen, Tuesday, September 23, 2003, 3:09:51 PM, you wrote: SR> h, i still don't understand why SA is not even looking at them SR> though see's everything else? Because the 150K attachment that comes with Swen is either too big to be sent to SA (depending on how you have configured

Re: [SAtalk] _HITS_ not giving correct score (0.0something more)

2003-09-23 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Stephan, Tuesday, September 23, 2003, 12:17:18 PM, you wrote: SvH> with 'subject_tag *SPAM* (_HITS_)' in local.cf SvH> i get the score in the subject SvH> now with this spam result SvH> X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=5.8 required=5.0 tests=CLICK_BELOW,EXCUSE_10, SvH>

Re[4]: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin filters seem too weak out of the box...

2003-09-23 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Mike,. MK> For myself...I will make it so a single line of "PEN?S MK> ENLARGEMENT" is enough to trigger as spam. The value of SA is that it can be customized for individual user needs, and that it is easy to change scoring, as well as to write your own rules. I also have some words and phr

Re[2]: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin filters seem too weak out of the box...

2003-09-22 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Mike, Monday, September 22, 2003, 1:47:50 PM, you wrote: MK> In response to my complaint of weak rules out of box: Mike, the value of Spamassassin is its ability to weight based on a combination of factors, rather than simply delete email based on single words or phrases. Words that seem s

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam

2003-09-22 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Mike, Sunday, September 21, 2003, 11:14:58 PM, you wrote: MS> We are using Sendmail under Linux and Apache 1.3.28. The path is MS> /usr/sbin/sendmail. Are you using procmail? -Abigail MS> -Original Message- MS> From: Abigail Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MS&g

Re: [SAtalk] Autodeleting spam based on score without deleting all spam

2003-09-21 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Mike, Saturday, September 20, 2003, 6:31:39 PM, you wrote: MS> Any tips on how to auto-delete spam based on score without deleting all MS> spam? MS> Criteria: MS> Mark anything scoring 5 or above as Spam. (already doing that) MS> Delete anything scoring 15 or above FROM THE SERVER. (how?)

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Grrr...Bayes db corrupted again!

2003-09-19 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello up, Thursday, September 18, 2003, 7:07:05 PM, you wrote: u3a> On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Daniel Quinlan wrote: >> up <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > This is perl, version 5.005_03 built for i386-freebsd >> > >> > Not sure which DB module is installed...perl -V doesn't say...I presume >> >

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Grrr...Bayes db corrupted again!

2003-09-19 Thread Abigail Marshall
u3a> On 18 Sep 2003, Daniel Quinlan wrote: >> >> Which Perl DB module and perl version are you both using? u3a> This is perl, version 5.005_03 built for i386-freebsd I'm using perl 5.6.1/i386-freebsd -Abigail --- This sf.net email is s

Re: [SAtalk] Grrr...Bayes db corrupted again!

2003-09-18 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello up, Thursday, September 18, 2003, 11:51:42 AM, you wrote: u3a> The last time this happened, the only way I could get sa-learn to start u3a> working again was to remove _journal, _msgcount, _seen and _toks, which u3a> presumably wipes out all existing bayes data. Is there a better way?

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Spam slipped through, why no Bayes?

2003-09-18 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Jeff, Thursday, September 18, 2003, 1:01:29 PM, you wrote: JF> So what does the average person set for the threshold of largest message JF> scanned by SA. Right now I'm at 32768 bytes. How large is it safe to JF> go??? Depends on your system and volume of email. Right now I've been run

Re: [SAtalk] RE: Trying to add my own custom test...

2003-09-18 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Mitch, Thursday, September 18, 2003, 10:15:26 AM, you wrote: MW> In my original post I'd asked if there was a way to whitelist or something - MW> maybe consider this test authoritative if it succeeds - cut down on the MW> effort - 80% of my mail is inter-client, about 20% outside - which is

Re: [SAtalk] Report send to user as to what spam they received?

2003-09-17 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Jennifer, Tuesday, September 16, 2003, 6:47:13 AM, you wrote: JF> Is there a way with SA to generate a report every day (and email to JF> admin - me) with what spam it stopped? I wasn't sure if SA had an JF> option or if I had to use third party software. Simply set up logging and then

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Has anyone written rules for Sobig:F

2003-09-14 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Kristian, KK> There is need for a 100% automated reporting mechanism that KK> integrates with _all_ ISPs, uses a documented standard protocol KK> so that there can be a lot of independent implementations that KK> are nonetheless interoperable, and that are part of the system KK> management

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Has anyone written rules for Sobig:F

2003-09-14 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Kristian, KK> My point was that there is no mechanism to propagate your KK> findings back to the source, either to the owners of these KK> machines or any of their upstream providers. When I first spotted the problem IP's, I sent emails to the abuse departments at the various ISP's alerting

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Has anyone written rules for Sobig:F

2003-09-13 Thread Abigail Marshall
KK> There is currently no mechanism at all KK> that is part of the Internet which can lock out machines that KK> are dangerous or detrimental to the functions of the network. KK> There are no processes in place that identify users of infected KK> systems and keep them off the network. Actually, t

Re[3]: [SAtalk] No BAYES_* ?

2003-09-13 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello David, Friday, September 12, 2003, 11:04:28 AM, you wrote: DBF> On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, Abigail Marshall wrote: >> >> >> I don't know but I have the same problem. It seems to >> happen when my bayes_toks file reaches about 5k. >> >> So far

Re: [SAtalk] Has anyone written rules for Sobig:F

2003-09-12 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Steven, Friday, September 12, 2003, 6:11:10 AM, you wrote: SWO> that I can just add? 1. Spamassassin did a good job of stopping Sobig.F without any extra rules, as it apparently ran afoul of other recipes. 2. SobigF expired on September 10th. There may be a few errant worms floating aroun

Re: [SAtalk] Clearing the database - messed up autolearn

2003-09-12 Thread Abigail Marshall
abmc> I am starting over, and need to "clear" or "untrain" the database of abmc> whatever incorrect info it has in it, but the sa-learn man page doesn't seem abmc> to have a specific option for clearing all information and starting over, abmc> other than the expiration. Is "sa-learn --rebuild --for

Re[2]: [SAtalk] No BAYES_* ?

2003-09-11 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Carlo, Thursday, September 11, 2003, 4:35:22 AM, you wrote: CW> Ok, I re-learned most of it :/ CW> Does anyone have an idea why it can happen that CW> this database loses its content? I don't know but I have the same problem. It seems to happen when my bayes_toks file reaches about 5k.

Re[2]: [SAtalk] sa-learn says it learnt from 134 messages but check_bayes__db only reports 19 as nspam?

2003-09-08 Thread Abigail Marshall
>> Can anyone explain why deleting the database seemed to fix it's >> learning? Is it just a corrupt database or something I am liable to hit >> again further down the track? JM> It must have learned those Message-IDs before. It will not learn the same JM> message ID twice. OK, here's the deal.

Re[2]: [SAtalk] FormMail messages getting caught

2003-09-05 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Pat, Wednesday, September 3, 2003, 2:03:39 PM, you wrote: PT> Ok - I've replace FormMail with NMS FormMail Version 3.09c1. It appears PT> to run fine, but Spamassassin likes it even less. The old version gave PT> me these errors: Since you presumably only want the output from YOUR Formm

Re[2]: [SAtalk] How To generate a spammers domain list

2003-08-24 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello myname, Friday, August 22, 2003, 10:33:44 PM, you wrote: m> Since I control the server where the mails are intitally received I m> can just block these spammers at the gate. I will get a list of all m> domains in the mail from , and create an Obviously spam domain list and m> then block

Re: [SAtalk] big attachments taking too long to process

2003-08-22 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Paul, Wednesday, August 20, 2003, 8:37:30 PM, you wrote: PA> This has happened a few times: when a message is retrieved from the PA> upstream POP server with a large attachment (100K), my local copy of SA PA> takes 50 seconds or so to process it. I am using Procmail to filter PA> deliver

Re: [SAtalk] Deleting Spam Messages

2003-08-21 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Daniel, Wednesday, August 20, 2003, 9:09:09 AM, you wrote: DK> I am looking for documentation on how to configure DK> Spamassassin to delete all messages marked as spam DK> instead of the header change. I spoke to the partners in DK> company on the risk of doing this, however they have DK>

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Moved into the ex-ip of a spammer

2003-08-17 Thread Abigail Marshall
YD> There are only 2 YD> places in the whole world that get denied at the MTA here and SBC is the YD> only one of them that got there by spam. My feelings for them cannot be YD> expressed without spilling blood. I'm going to shut up now before I YD> start sounding like a raging nanae-ite :) Why d

Re[2]: [SAdev] Re: [SAtalk] [RD] new rules for listwashing tokens, ROT-13 etc.

2003-08-17 Thread Abigail Marshall
YD> if I really wanted it I would YD> just subscribe abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz@ and have the spammer supply YD> me with a free key in every message but I don't think that's quite fair YD> play. You are worried about "fair play" with spammers The real irony is that you are worried about "fair

Re: [SAtalk] separate rules from distribution

2003-08-02 Thread Abigail Marshall
Saturday, August 2, 2003, 12:49:08 PM, you wrote: FA> (I'm not sure if this subject has been discussed before, as i'm not FA> following the list all the time) FA> How about separating the rules from the SpamAssassin distribution FA> itself, and offer them as a separate package? This would be simi

Re: [SAtalk] Adding scores to headers?

2003-08-01 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello John, Friday, August 1, 2003, 7:34:57 AM, you wrote: JB> Hi, JB> I'm running Amavisd 20030616 and Spamassassin 2.55. The headers JB> include the SA tests that were triggered but is there a way to include the JB> score that was associated with each test to the header or log? Yes.

Re: [SAtalk] [RD] 0.00 rule values? why bother?

2003-07-31 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Ian, Thursday, July 31, 2003, 2:55:29 PM, you wrote: ID> Curious why SA would have default rules defined (CLICK_BELOW, AWL) that have a ID> score of 0.00? Why bother with the overhead of these if the scores are 0? ID> I've seen a few others come in with AWL at 0.00 and just ignored them b

Re: [SAtalk] SA enhancement idea: report_safe threshold

2003-07-31 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Rich, Wednesday, July 30, 2003, 4:20:52 PM, you wrote: RP> I've been pondering an idea for an improvement to SA. Would anyone else RP> find the following to be useful: RP> report_safe_attach_threshold -- set threshold above which a mail has to RP> score to have report_safe level 1 appl

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn hanging?

2003-07-31 Thread Abigail Marshall
ID> When I run sa-learn on known spam/ham, I get output like this: ID> ID> .. ID> Learned from 4 messages. ID> And then it just hangs there, it never completes. No other output, nada. ID> Any ideas

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn suddenly failing

2003-07-30 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Giles, Tuesday, July 29, 2003, 4:07:58 PM, you wrote: GC> sa-learn suddenly failingWhenever I run sa-learn now I get the message: GC> Cannot open bayes_path $HOME/.spamassassin/bayes R/O: GC> Cannot open bayes_path $HOME/.spamassassin/bayes R/W: File exists Have you run sa-learn in debu

Re[3]: [SAtalk] Big problem - SA crashing - Bayes database issue

2003-07-25 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Matt, Friday, July 25, 2003, 8:53:28 AM, you wrote: MK> How much memory does your system have? MK> Bayes can be a pretty substantial memory hog.. I found out what the problem was - just thought I would share it. What happens is that I use procmail to catch spam from some spam-trap addr

Re[3]: [SAtalk] Big problem - SA crashing

2003-07-25 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Matt, Friday, July 25, 2003, 8:53:28 AM, you wrote: >I did run sa-learn --build (even >>before I posted), and that didn't seem to do any good. >> MK> How much memory does your system have? MK> Bayes can be a pretty substantial memory hog, particularly if your MK> mailserver is limping

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Big problem - SA crashing

2003-07-25 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Malte, MSS> On Friday 25 July 2003 04:06 CET Abigail Marshall wrote: >> My procmail.log is full of entries like this: >> >[...] >> > Cannot open bayes_path //.spamassassin/bayes R/W: File exists >> > Cannot open bayes_path //.spamassassin/bay

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Big problem - SA crashing

2003-07-25 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Matt, Thursday, July 24, 2003, 8:20:58 PM, you wrote: MK> Sounds like you need locking to keep there from being an infintite number MK> of simultaneous instances of spamassassin. MK> You should have something like this: MK> :0fw: spamassassin.lock MK> * < 256000 MK> | spamassassin Matt

[SAtalk] Big problem - SA crashing

2003-07-24 Thread Abigail Marshall
My procmail.log is full of entries like this: > procmail: Rescue of unfiltered data succeeded > Out of memory! > procmail: Program failure (1) of "/usr/local/bin/spamassassin" > procmail: Rescue of unfiltered data succeeded > Out of memory! > procmail: Program failure (1) of "/usr/local/bin/spamas

Re: [SAtalk] rule ideas..

2003-07-24 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Turgut, Thursday, July 24, 2003, 5:31:37 AM, you wrote: TK> Perhaps if the sender has a .BIZ domain that could be a rule? I have one that I've been using for some time that activates if the body contains a LINK to a .BIZ domain: body BIZ_SITE /.*\.biz/i score BIZ_SITE

Re[4]: [SAtalk] Re: Need a procmail recipe to redirect spam.

2003-07-16 Thread Abigail Marshall
YD> That will work, but if everyone starts doing it then spammers will start YD> forging X-Spam-Status lines into their spam. The idea is good but that YD> implementation is trivially defeated. YD> To make it a little more spammer-resistant I would add version_tag YD> something to local.cf and adj

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Re: Need a procmail recipe to redirect spam.

2003-07-16 Thread Abigail Marshall
SWO> I want a recipe for /etc/procmailrc which conditionally runs a message SWO> through spamc *only* if it hasn't already been processed by SA. I want to SWO> use the X-Spam-Status and/or the X-Spam-Flag headers. OK, try this: :0fw * < 256000 * ! ^X-Spam-Status: | spamc (The exclamation poi

Re: [SAtalk] Need a procmail recipe to redirect spam.

2003-07-14 Thread Abigail Marshall
Steven, Try putting the recipe that is in your personal .procmailrc at the end of the main /etc/procmailrc - then the mail will be sent to the $SUSPECT file BEFORE going to your individual POP boxes. -Abigail Sunday, July 13, 2003, 3:41:50 PM, you wrote: SWO> I have an account on my server for

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Wow, spam with scores as low as 2.1??

2003-07-11 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Matt, Wednesday, July 9, 2003, 6:36:03 PM, you wrote: >> >> > 4.0 (Medium), >> >>Oww. >> >>These three settings are going to give you false positives galore. MK> 4.0 isn't all that bad.. according to STATISTICS.txt 4.0 should give you MK> 0.44% FP rate in v 2.54, which is a lot more tha

Re[3]: [SAtalk] Attachment Checks

2003-07-11 Thread Abigail Marshall
SB> Yes, SA does use a lot of memory - about 20MB, but the amount of memory SB> doesn't really change based on the message size, which was why I was SB> expressing surprise. It takes *longer* to scan a larger message, but SB> compared to the static overhead of 18MB for the libraries and regex's t

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Attachment Checks

2003-07-09 Thread Abigail Marshall
>> both because it is inefficient and because >>viruses often have very large binary attachments which can >>cause SA to crash with an out of memory error, and let the SB> Huh ? Never had that happen to me. I use the default max scanning size of SB> 256KB with spamc/spamd and I've never had a pr

Re[4]: [SAtalk] Custom Rules Forum? Listing?

2003-07-09 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello William, Tuesday, July 8, 2003, 11:44:00 PM, you wrote: NW> What is a Wiki? NW> Bill Nichols See http://wiki.org/wiki.cgi?WhatIsWiki --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Parasoft Error proof Web apps, automate testing & more. Download

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Custom Rules Forum? Listing?

2003-07-08 Thread Abigail Marshall
RM> If someone can come up with a good method of discussing/exchanging custom RM> rules that won't seriously impact the value of this basic list, I have RM> some resources available at menschel.net we can use for that purpose. A Wiki is one of the easiest ways to set up space for collaborative con

Re: [SAtalk] Cannot open bayes_path error

2003-07-08 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Benjamin, Tuesday, July 8, 2003, 2:58:52 PM, you wrote: BT> This error message (the one I cut and pasted) BT> was actually generated when I ran sa-learn --rebuild. But it seems to BT> happen at other times, too. BT> Cannot open bayes_path /home/spamc/.spamassassin/bayes R/W: File

Re: [SAtalk] Attachment Checks

2003-07-08 Thread Abigail Marshall
GD> I'm trying to block all the annoying SoBig viruses - so I have the GD> following: GD> body SO_BIG_VIRUS /Please see the attached zip file for details\./ GD> score SO_BIG_VIRUS 6.0 GD> header SO_BIG_ATTACHMENT ALL =~ /your_details\.zip/ GD> score SO_BIG_ATTACHMENT 3.0 The title is actually in

Re: [SAtalk] Mail::SpamAssassin memory requirements?

2003-07-08 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello SpamAssassin, Monday, July 7, 2003, 4:22:15 PM, you wrote: S> Anyone have an idea of the Mail::SpamAssassin S> memory requirements? S> I realize it will vary depending on configuration / S> options / rules / ... in use. S> (SpamAssassin 2.55 on a per user install S> through IMAPAssassi

Re: [SAtalk] Reject based on SA score

2003-07-07 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Mike,. MV> Q1. MV> Does a configuration exist (mailscanner, or such utilities) that would allow MV> one to do a standard reject based on the hit score? Based on my existing MV> setup, by the time the message goes through SA via spamc, it is already out of MV> postfix. I assume that means t

Re[3]: [SAtalk] re: Can I put a subject that states this is Spam Mail

2003-07-05 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Doug, DW> Thanks Abigail. I am working with procmail. I am new to procmail though. I DW> found that when I try to set my re-directed spam to a file folder in DW> /var/mail instead of my home directory, it doesn't work. What I wanted to DW> do was write it to a file called spam that coul

Re: [SAtalk] Spammers using SpamAssassin to tailor their emails?

2003-07-05 Thread Abigail Marshall
Saturday, July 5, 2003, 10:36:15 AM, you wrote: SA> Over the past several weeks, I've noticed an increasing amount of SA> spam that is getting through SpamAssassin with scores in the 4.0-4.9 SA> range. This makes me wonder if perhaps some spammers have started to SA> taylor their spams as follows

Re[2]: [SAtalk] re: Can I put a subject that states this is Spam Mail

2003-07-05 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Doug, Saturday, July 5, 2003, 5:55:39 AM, you wrote: DW> How can I get this to rewrite ALL subjects -- even those emails that do DW> not get filtered out? DW> I'd like all email subjects to contain this string -- at least for a while DW> so I can get a handle on things. You'll find a l

Re: [SAtalk] re: Can I put a subject that states this is Spam Mail

2003-07-05 Thread Abigail Marshall
JM> What I'm wondering is if there is a way to have the JM> Subject changed to states Probable Spam or some other meaningful JM> indicator instead of the original subject. John, in your local.cf file put the following: rewrite_subject 1 subject_tag PROBABLE SPAM: (or write in whatever

Re[4]: [SAtalk] Re: Movie FILTER THIS VIRUS ALREADY!!!

2003-07-04 Thread Abigail Marshall
>> >> OK, I'm curious. How do you suggest this can be done using >> MailMan 2.0.9? as far as I can see, there's no way to filter >> out attachments. >> TH> Main menu, select 'content filtering', TH> This mailman 2.1.(something) though.. Not sure if it's the same in 2.0.9. Tony, that menu i

Re[2]: [SAtalk] HELP: Someone is using my domain name to send spam

2003-07-04 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Jim, Friday, July 4, 2003, 5:38:36 AM, you wrote: JF> On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 04:15:31AM -0700, Abigail Marshall wrote: >> Actually, I think the spam-from-yourself routine is a trick >> that is created by the sending software, so that everyone is >> getting spam f

Re[2]: [SAtalk] HELP: Someone is using my domain name to send spam

2003-07-04 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Jim, JF> Yes, I've also been getting spam addressed from myself. Actually, I think the spam-from-yourself routine is a trick that is created by the sending software, so that everyone is getting spam from themselves -- so for those particular spams, others are probably not getting that. S

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Re: Movie FILTER THIS VIRUS ALREADY!!!

2003-07-04 Thread Abigail Marshall
BAS> Besides, comparing spam to viruses is a bit like apples and BAS> fruitcakes. Only without the fruit or the cake. Sobig.E. is a virus designed to create a backdoor trojan on a system to send out SPAM. Get it? The particular virus that this list is dissemminating 3 or 4 times a day to possibly

Re[4]: [SAtalk] Re: Movie FILTER THIS VIRUS ALREADY!!!

2003-07-04 Thread Abigail Marshall
JM> OK, I'm curious. How do you suggest this can be done using MailMan 2.0.9? JM> as far as I can see, there's no way to filter out attachments. I use Mailman 2.0.13, so it's possible that it has a feature that 2.0.9 doesn't - in which case they really ought to upgrade, given the fact that Mailm

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Re: Movie FILTER THIS VIRUS ALREADY!!!

2003-07-04 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Jason, Thursday, July 3, 2003, 7:45:31 PM, you wrote: JH> On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 10:29:47PM -0400, Shaun T. Erickson wrote: >> So, no rant from me, but I *do* think the list admin (or the admin of >> the system that hosts the list) should be making every attempt to block >> virii from

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Re: Movie FILTER THIS VIRUS ALREADY!!!

2003-07-03 Thread Abigail Marshall
BA> Sure, if the people who administer the list also administer the mail BA> system upon which the list depends. For [SA-Talk], this is not the case. I find that hard to believe. How did this list get set up? For any list running on Mailman, a list administrator also has direct access to the inter

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Re: Movie FILTER THIS VIRUS ALREADY!!!

2003-07-03 Thread Abigail Marshall
>> You know the old saying, if you don't have something constructive to >> say.. >> BAS> ...whine about it on a list. I'm hoping to maybe get the list administrator's attention, since this is such an easy fix. I will be glad to tell the list administrator exactly how to prevent this and othe

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Re: Movie FILTER THIS VIRUS ALREADY!!!

2003-07-03 Thread Abigail Marshall
SB> Well I belong to a lot of mailing lists, and I'm not aware of any of them SB> that have actual virus scanning and blocking facilities. I RUN a lot of mailing lists, and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM has a mechanism to stop most viruses. The most sensible is to disallow attachments, but if attachm

Re[2]: [spamassassin] Re: [SAtalk] "Naughty" test names

2003-07-03 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Rick, Thursday, July 3, 2003, 12:58:49 PM, you wrote: RB> Don Krause wrote: >> How can "PENIS" be offensive? It's a medically correct term. >> >> Just offer to turn off SA for those who are so easily offended. I'm sure >> they'd prefer PENIS to the content of the actual mail. RB> Yes,

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Movie FILTER THIS VIRUS ALREADY!!!

2003-07-03 Thread Abigail Marshall
This is really unacceptable. There is NO reason that this virus can't be filtered from this list - it is a simple regexp to get rid of it. It makes no sense that people who develop software like Spamassassin can't figure out how to stop a simple virus that ALWAYS has the same line of text plus an

Re[4]: [SAtalk] Why did this spam go through?

2003-07-02 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Robert, RM> Ah, but you see, I didn't test your message -- I tested an identical RM> message that reached me here directly from the spammer RM> The email I received here was both text and html. The HTML was RM> effectively empty -- it had the following tags: html, head, title, /title RM> (n

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Why did this spam go through?

2003-07-02 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Robert, Wednesday, July 2, 2003, 6:16:03 PM, you wrote: AM>> This spam had a 0 score, SA 2.54... wondering how it got AM>> through - it is full of lots of words about weight loss and AM>> all caps words like GUARANTEED, FREE - no HTML though, just AM>> plain text: RM> It scored 6.2 here, >

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Why did this spam go through?

2003-07-02 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Ross, Wednesday, July 2, 2003, 8:26:43 AM, you wrote: RV> On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 09:51:24PM -0700, Abigail Marshall wrote: >> Subject: Why are so many people losing weight on Atkins? >> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=4.0 >> tests=none >> v

Re[2]: [SAtalk] meaning of rule descriptions

2003-07-01 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Jay, Tuesday, July 1, 2003, 7:52:42 PM, you wrote: >> qualify for. See http://www.geocities.com/kl3434us/ North >> American Association of Unaccredited Colleges and >> Univerisities (sic) [No, that's not a joke site - it's real] JL> Actually, yes, it is a joke site. Not only are the ind

[SAtalk] Why did this spam go through?

2003-07-01 Thread Abigail Marshall
This spam had a 0 score, SA 2.54... wondering how it got through - it is full of lots of words about weight loss and all caps words like GUARANTEED, FREE - no HTML though, just plain text: Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from b6.e-i1.com (b6.e-i1.com [63.251.54.86]) by [domain]

Re: [SAtalk] meaning of rule descriptions

2003-07-01 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Klaus, I think what you have is culture clash - you are encountering some things that are very common in the US, but perhaps not so well known in Germany: KH> # describe PREST_NON_ACCREDITED 'Prestigious Non-Accredited Universities' KH> "Prestigious" and "non-accredited" don't seem to fi

Re[2]: [SAtalk] "Naughty" test names

2003-06-29 Thread Abigail Marshall
It seems to me that SA comes with language options that will print test descriptions in languages other than English, i.e., you can opt to have the test that is giving offense here described as "Spiega come aumentare le dimensi oni del proprio pene" - I would assume by choosing appropriate language

Re[2]: [SAtalk] BUGGY_CGI?

2003-06-29 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Martin, >> I am using a very simple and standard FormMail form on my website and >> forms sent to me from my own web site are getting marked as spam! >> Look at the headers of the feedback form; since it comes from your own site it will probably have the site user ID and/or IP in one of th

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Re: misc virus warnings...

2003-06-27 Thread Abigail Marshall
>> This seems like it is about to become an accidental denial of service GD> attack >> on this mailing list. Might be a good idea to find a way of preventing GD> this >> before people who don't like SA catch on... >> Pretty easy, actually. The list manager should 1. Upgrade Mailman. (they are ru

Re[3]: [SAtalk] Ideas on dealing with Joe Job?

2003-06-24 Thread Abigail Marshall
RP> I'm willing to bet that it's probably still within the court system, and RP> within mostly one state on top of that. ;-) Florida? (Just hazarding a guess) RP> Just proving these losers are RP> exploiting open proxies the world over is the very difficult part. RP> Depending on how your ch

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Ideas on dealing with Joe Job?

2003-06-24 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello David, Monday, June 23, 2003, 9:16:52 PM, you wrote: DC> Technically speaking you could go after the DC> spammer/spamvertized site for identity theft and DC> defamation of character. In fact I wouldn't hesitate, DC> you have nothing to loose. Er, the ones that keep doing this to us seem to

Re: [SAtalk] Ideas on dealing with Joe Job?

2003-06-23 Thread Abigail Marshall
HH> Not SA, but you people are my spam experts... HH> I'm getting a BUNCH of bounces where someone has used a return address HH> that returns to me. This address is commonly used by spammers (it's an HH> invalid address here, but I get all the mail with invalid usernames). The HH> mail is promotin

[SAtalk] Bayes + Autolearn Question

2003-06-20 Thread Abigail Marshall
I need help figuring something out. I'm managing email on a server in an inhouse, company environment. Many users on system, but all are using the system for company business, so basically we will have very similar spam vs. ham issues. I was frustrated because the autolearn Bayes files seemed to

Re[2]: [SAtalk] DNSBL MTA rejection and more efficiency?

2003-06-19 Thread Abigail Marshall
>> > > >> > > http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/ >> > >>From my own experience above and their own description on this site, it >> > > sounds like the SBL is fairly safe and not abusive like other DNSBL's in >> > > the past have been accused of. Would anyone else agree that the SBL is >> > > generally s

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Base-64 encoded HTML and text spam

2003-06-19 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Daniel, Wednesday, June 18, 2003, 11:17:06 PM, you wrote: DQ> Well, the rule (renamed in 2.60-cvs) does false positive about 0.03% of DQ> the time: Thanks for the detailed explanation. I think the nice thing about SA is that it is user customizable - a false positive rate of more than 0.

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Base-64 encoded HTML and text spam

2003-06-19 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Robin, RW> Indeed. From now on such messages have a one-way ticket to RW> the spam pit: RW> score BASE64-ENC-TEXT 100.0 Hmm, given Alain's comments, it might be better to simply assign a score close to the default spam thresshold for your system, for reasons I will detail below. RW>

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Base-64 encoded HTML and text spam

2003-06-18 Thread Abigail Marshall
AF> On Thu, Jun 19, 2003 at 01:54:26PM +1000, Robin Whittle AF> wrote: >> Thanks for this Abigail: >> >> > I have yet to see a >> > *valid* email that is Base-64 encoded. >> AF> Lucky you. I see quite a few. The crappy e-mail client "Incredimail" AF> that is unfortunately quite popular likes t

Re: [SAtalk] Base-64 encoded HTML and text spam

2003-06-18 Thread Abigail Marshall
RW> Does this mean that SpamAssassin is blind to the contents of base-64 RW> encoded HTML? Apparently so; but it does correctly identify the email as being base-64 encoded. I would simply recommend that you raise the score in the local.cf file for the SA test BASE64_ENC_TEXT to near or above your

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Frustrating spam

2003-06-17 Thread Abigail Marshall
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> 2) Can anyone run the spam below against a vanilla ruleset, 2.5[45] >>> and/or 2.6, and let me know if this spam should have been caught under >>> 2.54? >> Bob, The reason the spam in your case bypassed SA but got caught when you had others run it is here: > X-

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Frustrating spam

2003-06-17 Thread Abigail Marshall
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> 1) SA Developers: PLEASE provide some method whereby end-users like me >>> can implement header, body, and uri rules in user_prefs. You can implement rules by adding them to the local.cf file; here's an example of a ruleset for body: body BODY_PLING /\!