Right now I'm thinking I will sail with the Depth and the wind "True / App"
and the speed paddle if I can get it to work and then the new Garmin
Echo50s and leave it a lone for a while. I will go tonight and hookup the
flux gate and the wind and take a new look at the (+) (-) on the GPS and
the Aut
Curtis:
You have had lots of advice...here's my take...even though I have a GPS
chartplotter and a handheld GPS, I would not be without my old Signet
speed instrument. Simply to say, I just like it as it read 2 digits
after the decimal point in big digital numbers in the cockpit.and it
is
: Re: Stus-List Autohelm St4000 how it should work with the GPS
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Tuesday, January 14, 2014, 4:31 AM
I worked with the paddle
wheel last night ad was able to
clean it. It now spins freely but shows however it still has
no activity on the
ohms meter. All that b
Covering a few things on the same topic.
1) ST50 Speed System ( Z095 & Z092 )
Wire colour code:
Screen - 0 volts - ground
Red - 5 volts - power
Green - 0 to 5 volt log pulse measured from green to screen, from speed sensor
Yellow - Temperature 1
Blue - Temperature 2
Power up the equipme
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I went through a lot of trouble to install an ST40 speed instrument (and a
depth one) on my boat last year. My friends were all "forget about that, u
speed through the water both
displayed you can find the best wind and the least adverse current ;)
Joe Della Barba
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That helps . I can understand why it is needed. it would be a great help to
me . I do sail in the Beaufort / Broad / Morgan rivers more than anywhere
else. I have to fight 7 to 9 foot tidal changes. I mentioned in a another
post that I have been sailing real hard and doing real good with the water
t; *Joe Della Barba*
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Makes life interesting:)
Rich
On Jan 14, 2014, at 10:20 AM, Della Barba, Joe
mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>> wrote:
If you go right in the very center of the Bay Bridge main span som
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Here in Halifax harbour, if I go parallel to and within a couple hundred feet
of the Panamax
Barba
Coquina
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All that being said, how much does this speed help you anyway? I mean it
would NOT see changes when spinning it.
On Jan 14, 2014 9:18 AM, "Josh Muckley" wrote:
>
> Oh yeah, I believe your speed wheel uses what is called a hall-effect
transistor. It simply conducts momentarily in the presence of a magnetic
field. So 0 ohms is correct. You probably would even see any
, 2014 8:50 PM
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Here in Halifax harbour, if I go parallel to and within a couple hundred feet
of the Panamax floating dry dock, a big chunk of steel, with the auto helm on,
I'll get steered right off c
Oh yeah, I believe your speed wheel uses what is called a hall-effect
transistor. It simply conducts momentarily in the presence of a magnetic
field. So 0 ohms is correct. You probably would even see any change when
you spin the wheel. The instrument just counts "clicks".
Josh
On Jan 14, 2014
Boat speed is very helpful for innumerable reasons.
The speed wheel shows speed through the water. The GPS shows speed over
ground. If you take the differance then you can see the speed of the
current.
The wind instrument uses boat speed to calculate apparent wind speed and
angle which is more
Curtis, your ohm meter likely wont show anything. Plug it into the instrument
to test it.
Rich
> On Jan 14, 2014, at 8:31, Curtis wrote:
>
> I worked with the paddle wheel last night ad was able to clean it. It now
> spins freely but shows however it still has no activity on the ohms meter.
I worked with the paddle wheel last night ad was able to clean it. It now
spins freely but shows however it still has no activity on the ohms meter.
All that being said, how much does this speed help you anyway? I mean it
will tell me how fast the river is passing under my boat but not if I’m
maki
I had to knock the pin out of my paddlewheel and replace the wheel and the
pin, since I had whacked into something hard and it stopped working, pretty
much. Bent the pin, knocked one of the lobes off the paddlewheel. Then I
put the new paddlewheel on backwards, and it worked well enough since I had
Tear them all out and send them to me, you'll never find any use for
them. In return I will send you my wind instruments, which mostly
consists of some cassette tape tied to the shrouds.
Cheers,
Paul.
On 14-01-13 09:56 PM, Josh Muckley wrote:
KEEP THE ELECTRONICS!
The speed wheel is probabl
Hi Curtis.
Apologies for sounding frustrated. You are asking some simple questions for
which there are relatively complex answers. I appreciate where you are as it's
a place where most of us have been at one point, but it's so long ago we have
forgotten:) I think we are all trying to answer you
KEEP THE ELECTRONICS!
The speed wheel is probably full of the last seasons marine growth. A
tooth brush should straighten that out.
Yes you can get the autohelm to steer to the wind. On my symrad unit I
have to configure it for one or the other. Not too hard but certainly not
on the fly. Stee
Rich,
I have read and continue to read the manuals for all this equipment. I note
a bit of frustration with regards’ to my lack of understanding of this
equipment. I have only owned my C&C30 for a couple of years now, The boat
came with a lot of st50 auto-helm equipment
1) Tri-data
2) VMG
3)
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Autohelm St4000 how it should work with the GPS
Rich,
Not every time power off, but it seems in spring after winter where
batteries pulled and taken to basement that Need to Re swing the fluxgate
and adjust the gain. Maybe not, but it seems to lose this
> >
> > Yeah, well Rich, tell that to my shrivel., please
> > Bill walker
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;Rich Knowles"
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
Subject: Stus-List Autohelm St4000 how it should work with the GPS
Date: Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:40 PM
Hmm. Bill, If you are saying every time you shut off the power to the auto
helm, the settings revert, that is not right. I've installed
; guests. The chartplotter should alert you, when you approach the destination.
>
> Marek
>
>
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 10:24:46 -0400
> From: "dwight"
> To:
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>Not to be picky, but your last step should not be required every time you shut
>off the power. The settings are retained in non-volatile memory.
The settings are saved, and should last over the winter. Some of the older
units are losing their ability to save into non-volatile memory.
Als
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> Subject: Stus-List Autohelm St4000 how it should work with the GPS
> Date: Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:38 PM
>
> Not to be picky, but your last step should not be required every time you
> shut off the power. The settings are retained in non-volatile memory
the GPS
> Date: Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:15 PM
>
> Yeah, well Rich, tell that to my shrivel., please
> Bill walker
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>Though something to consider is that the 0183 standard is for a total of 4
>wires to send and recieve. RX+GND and TX+GND. I didn't see where you
>mentioned all those wires...sounded like
: Monday, January 13, 2014 1:01 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Supposedly, this is how accidents happen on Great Lakes. I don’t know if these
are urban legends or not, but I heard that, especially, on Georgian Bay, there
are
I rarely let Otto drive the boat from the GPS, but I will frequently set
the wind angle hold while we get drinks etc. This setting will keep the
boat sailing to the set of the sails rather than trying to set a
waypoint. We literally have sailed in a circle on Lake Michigan during
variable win
that to my shrivel., please
Bill walker
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Subject: Stus-List Autohelm St4000 how it should work with the GPS
Date: Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:38 PM
Not to be picky, but your last step should
Yeah, well Rich, tell that to my shrivel., please
Bill walker
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Subject: Stus-List Autohelm St4000 how it should work with the GPS
Date: Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:38 PM
Not to be picky
Not to be picky, but your last step should not be required every time you shut
off the power. The settings are retained in non-volatile memory.
Rich
> On Jan 13, 2014, at 18:24, Wwadjourn wrote:
>
> I almost shudder at posting in this thread, but . . . . . .
> One other point, read the manua
I almost shudder at posting in this thread, but . . . . . .
One other point, read the manual, and set the gain on the auto pilot. You will
never get optimum performance, read: a straight course, without doing this step
in the set up, AND every time that power is completely removed from the pilo
o base that on
>
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich
> Knowles
> Sent: January 13, 2014 5:48 PM
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> Well, we're not all good at everything
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Well, we're not all good at everything!
Rich
On Jan 13, 2014, at 5:37 PM, dwight wrote:
Now you know why I asked such basic questions that some of you thought heavy
on Curtis.
_
Jan 2014 15:14:22 -0600
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>
> Curt — seriously, read the installation manual for the ST4000. It NEEDS to
> have the fluxgate compass input; it does NOT get heading info from GPS, nor
taudio.net
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:14:22 -0600
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Curt — seriously, read the installation manual for the ST4000. It NEEDS to
have the fluxgate compass input; it does NOT get heading info from GPS, nor
5:27 PM
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Curtis:
The fluxgate compass is the primary source of heading information for the
autopilot head and should not be disconnected.
When you push the "AUTO" button, the course computer
Now you know why I asked such basic questions that some of you thought heavy
on Curtis.
_
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Knowles
Sent: January 13, 2014 5:27 PM
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Curtis:
The fluxgate compass is the primary source of heading information for the
autopilot head and should not be disconnected.
When you push the "AUTO" button, the course computer locks on to the compass
heading the boat is on and develops internal correcting signals as the boat
yaws to eit
Curt — seriously, read the installation manual for the ST4000. It NEEDS to
have the fluxgate compass input; it does NOT get heading info from GPS, nor
could it, as heading does not equal course over ground (COG) in most cases.
Hook that thing back up!
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1
ask.
Interestingly, the plane had a NY Times correspondent on board writing a
story about a private plane delivery. This provides a unique perspective
to the article.
Chuck
C&C24
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Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:00:40 -0500
From: "Marek Dziedzic"
To:
Subject: Re: Stus-L
I have a flux gate compass I disconnected it from the head because I
thought the auto-pilot head would now get its heading from the GPS unit?
So I will take some photos and show you what I have.
How will I ever nap a nap in???
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Michael Brown wrote:
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>
> >Thoug
quot;the interface" and having to constantly
> check the course et al. Seems safer to me.
>
> David F. Risch
> 1981 40-2
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>
>
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:13:46 -0500
> From: cpt.b...@gmail.com
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stu
>Though something to consider is that the 0183 standard is for a total of 4
>wires to send and recieve. RX+GND and TX+GND. I didn't see where you
>mentioned all those wires...sounded like too few.
The ST4000 control head is NMEA IN only, two wires marks - +.
>
> So now, If I understand yo
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:13:46 -0500
> From: cpt.b...@gmail.com
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Autohelm St4000 how it should work with the GPS
>
> I just googled it looking for an answer to me problem and This is the
> website that I c
e: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:13:46 -0500
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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Autohelm St4000 how it should work with the GPS
I just googled it looking for an answer to me problem and This is the website
that I came up
with.http://www.jfaughn.com/crew_boat_project
I just googled it looking for an answer to me problem and This is the
website that I came up with.
http://www.jfaughn.com/crew_boat_projects/projects/garminautohelm/492autohelm.htm
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Jim Watts wrote:
> The blue wire on Raymarine 4000 autopilots is the -V for the
Thanks Frederick, That's the information I was needing.
The wires on the new Garmin "do" have 2 wires with tags on them one with a
(TX-) and one with (TX+) then the back of the ST-4000 looks like this.
Thanks for your help. I will try this.
the
On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Frederick G Str
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The blue wire on Raymarine 4000 autopilots is the -V for the power supply.
I suggest you track down whoever told you to hook it up like that and beat
him senseless. Read the manuals for each, it isn't rocket science.
Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
On 13 January 2014 05:04,
Curt — it’s been my experience that pretty much NO equipment uses the same
color wire for the same thing, even among equipment from the same manufacturer.
You need to connect the NMEA0183 output wires from the GPS to the NMEA0183
input wires on the autopilot; TX+ and TX- on the Garmin to RX+ an
10:10 AM
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Umm... not sure about the st4000 it should also have a button kinda like a
NAV that will tell it to listen to the broadcast course to steer.
Everything else sounds like you have it.
Though
Here's the URL for Raymarine manuals:
http://www.raymarine.com/view/?id=1836
Rich
> On Jan 13, 2014, at 9:04, Curtis wrote:
>
> Got it all wired in today and I need some help.
> I have an older model Autohelm St4000 and a new Echo50s Garmin.\I have the
> blue wire from the control head going
Umm... not sure about the st4000 it should also have a button kinda like a
NAV that will tell it to listen to the broadcast course to steer.
Everything else sounds like you have it.
Though something to consider is that the 0183 standard is for a total of 4
wires to send and recieve. RX+GND and T
Hi Curtis,
With everything hooked up correctly, I think you need to "engage" the
auto-pilot.
As in:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jd1Ih8EUmw
Cheers, Russ
At 05:48 AM 13/01/2014, you wrote:
No, The guy at Garmin said that the echo50s I purchased is
compatible with 0183 and should
Curtis. Do you have the manual for the gear? If not, get on the Raymarine site,
download it and read it. Operation is quite simple.
Rich
> On Jan 13, 2014, at 9:04, Curtis wrote:
>
> Got it all wired in today and I need some help.
> I have an older model Autohelm St4000 and a new Echo50s Garm
No, The guy at Garmin said that the echo50s I purchased is compatible with
0183 and should work fine.
Wire color to color and it should be fine. it also speaks the 2000. I
called raymarine and they said the difference in in the version of the 0183
in my equipment. the older version is vr 3.0 the n
I guess I jumped the assumption gun on the last responce. You question is
too vague. I should have started with, "What protocol is the garmin
using? What protocol is the autohelm using? What protocal are your
masthead instruments using? If you want them to all talk together then you
will proba
The garmin should have a nav button or other way to get it to start
navigating a course or to a waypoint. That should start broadcasting a
course to steer signal. I don't know about the wiring specifically so I
have to assume you followed the manuals for the autohelm and garmin and
matched the in
Got it all wired in today and I need some help.
I have an older model Autohelm St4000 and a new Echo50s Garmin.\I have the
blue wire from the control head going to the blue wire on the Garmin I have
the red wire to the inst switch and a common ground to the batt.
I have the baud rate set to 4800.
H
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