KEEP THE ELECTRONICS! The speed wheel is probably full of the last seasons marine growth. A tooth brush should straighten that out.
Yes you can get the autohelm to steer to the wind. On my symrad unit I have to configure it for one or the other. Not too hard but certainly not on the fly. Steering to the wind is conditional on having a wind direction input...possibly from those instruments you were considering tearing out. Josh On Jan 13, 2014 10:09 PM, "Curtis" <cpt.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > Rich, > > I have read and continue to read the manuals for all this equipment. I > note a bit of frustration with regards’ to my lack of understanding of this > equipment. I have only owned my C&C30 for a couple of years now, The boat > came with a lot of st50 auto-helm equipment > > > > 1) Tri-data > > 2) VMG > > 3) ST4000 > > 4) Wind > > 5) Multi > > 6) Speed Trim > > 7) NAV-Data > > 8) I also have a 36” pole with a wind feather on the top of it? Z159 > > > > Transducers’= (wind speed true/app Direction) > > (Water speed paddle wheel) > > (Depth temp) > > (Wind angle? Z159) > > (Fluxgate) > > > > Everything seams to power up, but the paddlewheel will not turn freely. > And there is no continuity in the cable? So, it’s fair to say the speed > trans is no good. > > The fluxgate I was able to swing in as the “Manual” instructed. I’m able > to set the clutch in place and hold the boat at the heading I point it at > using the st4000 so I know that works. But reading the above makes sense > that it would be independent of the Garmin GPS. However I was told that’s > what makes the system so cool is It would follow a courts set by gps. If I > read Schiller’s post correctly I could set it to receive the wind vane so I > might steer a wind angle? Now that would be progress. > > > > Moving forward I will hook back up the Fluxgate compass and reconsider > what else? > > > > Thanks again its just so much to take in for someone that has never been > involved in marine electronics and new to boat ownership as well. > > I will get it. It just may take me more time than I was hoping for. > > Thanks again for all the advice and help. With out you guys I would > flounder for months on this stuff. Maybe I should just cut it all loose > and e-bay it. Just use the Garmin and the depth sounder. It would be a way > to watch both ends of the boat in close anchorages. > > Cheers, Curtis > > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Rich Knowles <r...@sailpower.ca> wrote: > >> Curtis: >> >> The fluxgate compass is the primary source of heading information for the >> autopilot head and should *not* be disconnected. >> >> When you push the "AUTO" button, the course computer locks on to the >> compass heading the boat is on and develops internal correcting signals as >> the boat yaws to either side of the original heading and uses those >> cross-track error signals to drive the wheel and hold the course steady. >> Once properly set up, the course holding abilities of the ST4000 are quite >> good and you should be on a constant course in the direction originally >> set. This way of using the ST4000 is the standard way of operating. It's >> just fine for relatively short legs but, as it only uses the boat's heading >> as a reference, it cannot compensate for current or leeway of the boat. In >> other words, you could be doing 220 deg for several hours and be miles of >> your intended destination if a cross current caused by tide has pushed you >> away from the rhumb line. >> >> To avoid getting pushed off course by factors that the fluxgate compass >> cannot measure or compensate for, an external source of cross-track error >> signals is needed that uses the final destination point as the reference >> from which to calculate whether course correction is needed. >> >> When you have a "GO TO" destination set up and activated on the GPS unit, >> the GPS will develop off course signals that can be used by the auto helm >> computer to steer the boat to the destination. That information is >> delivered to the ST4000 via the NMEA signals. >> >> Pardon me if you are aware of this already. I strongly recommend reading >> the manuals and, if there are terms that are unclear, Google them up. >> >> Hook that compass up and RTFM! >> >> Rich Knowles >> INDIGO LF38 >> Halifax, NS. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 13, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Curtis <cpt.b...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I have a flux gate compass I disconnected it from the head because I >> thought the auto-pilot head would now get its heading from the GPS unit? >> >> So I will take some photos and show you what I have. >> >> How will I ever nap a nap in??? >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Michael Brown <m...@tkg.ca> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >Though something to consider is that the 0183 standard is for a total >>> of 4 >>> >wires to send and recieve. RX+GND and TX+GND. I didn't see where you >>> >mentioned all those wires...sounded like too few. >>> >>> >>> The ST4000 control head is NMEA IN only, two wires marks - +. >>> >>> >>> > >>> > So now, If I understand you correctly. I first have to create a route >>> then to >>> > start navigating a course or to a way-point. That should start >>> > broadcasting a course to steer signal. then I in-gauge the st4000 by >>> > pressing the +10 and -10 at the same time and it should start taking >>> > direction from the Garmin? >>> > does this sound correct? >>> > >>> >>> >>> With NEMA to the ST4000 it depends on what is being sent. Autohelm >>> describes two >>> scenarios, automatic acquisition and manual acquisition. >>> >>> Automatic - both cross track error and bearing to waypoint are sent >>> Manual - only cross track error is sent >>> >>> With automatic get everything engaged and press +10 and -10 together. >>> The manual >>> requires that you get on course withing 5 degrees of the bearing to the >>> waypoint and >>> cross track less than 0.1 nm, then press +10 and -10 together. >>> >>> My guess is, and strictly a guess, is that the ST4000 uses its own >>> fluxgate compass >>> for navigation and takes some error correction from NEMA for cross track. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >I know it has probably been done by others but I am not sure that I >>> would >>> >ever let my ST 4000 plus steer a course unattended based on transfer >>> data >>> >from my chart plotter. >>> >>> >>> I wonder if that was what Autohelm was thinking, they seem to use the >>> fluxgate compass. >>> >>> >>> > Curt ? it?s been my experience that pretty much NO equipment uses the >>> same color wire for the same thing, even among equipment from the same >>> manufacturer. >>> >>> >You need to connect the NMEA0183 output wires from the GPS to the >>> NMEA0183 input wires on the > autopilot; TX+ and TX- on the Garmin to RX+ >>> and RX- on the Raymarine. >>> >>> >I can guarantee that the chances of any two of these wires having >>> common colors is about zero. >>> >>> >>> Supposedly the + is Red and - is Blue, however Autohelm agrees with you. >>> They are marked + and - only. >>> >>> >>> Michael Brown >>> Windburn >>> C&C 30-1 >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >>> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >>> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> *At sea, I learned how little a person needs, not how much. - Robin Lee >> Graham* >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> > > > -- > > *At sea, I learned how little a person needs, not how much. - Robin Lee > Graham* > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > >
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