Re: Stus-List New boat in town

2020-06-29 Thread Allan Rheaume via CnC-List
Hi John,             I visited this boat in Detroit last year when I was searching for a 34/36. The boat looks good from on the ground looking up at it on the hard but have you actually been aboard?  The former owner was a terrific gentleman but the boat has had just about zero maintenance sinc

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-16 Thread Pete Shelquist
Racing http://wyc.org/ais/Home.aspx From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 10:21 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37 Tom - good luck with your boat search, and

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-16 Thread Tom Lynch
ttp://wyc.org/ais/Home.aspx > > > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of > *Frederick > G Street > *Sent:* Monday, December 16, 2013 10:21 AM > > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-16 Thread Pete Shelquist
s/Home.aspx From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 10:21 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37 Tom - good luck with your boat search, and welcome to the Apostles! Fred Stree

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-16 Thread Frederick G Street
Tom — good luck with your boat search, and welcome to the Apostles! Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Dec 14, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Tom Lynch wrote: > Richard, > > Congrats on your new boat. I'm in the market for my first C&C.

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 33-2 inquiry

2013-12-15 Thread Tom Lynch
guess you want a deep keel boat; get one and go > sailing! > > Richard > > Richard N. Bush Law Offices > 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite 9 > Louisville, Kentucky 40220 > 502-584-7255 > -Original Message- > From: Tom Lynch 'thomasmly...@gmail.com');&

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37 (Now: pedestal info)

2013-12-15 Thread Rick Brass
;m not even sure I'd do that. Rick Brass From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Fred Hazzard Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 1:43 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37 (Now: pedestal info) I have the same shi

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-15 Thread Richard N. Bush
Bill, my wife agrees with you Richard Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite 9 Louisville, Kentucky 40220 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Bill Coleman To: cnc-list Sent: Sun, Dec 15, 2013 8:52 am Subject: Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37 (Now: pedestal info)

2013-12-15 Thread Richard N. Bush
Fred, Thanks; that's what I need to hear! Richard Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite 9 Louisville, Kentucky 40220 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Fred Hazzard To: cnc-list Sent: Sun, Dec 15, 2013 1:43 am Subject: Re: Stus-List : new boat, 198

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 33-2 inquiry

2013-12-15 Thread Richard N. Bush
lle, Kentucky 40220 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Tom Lynch To: cnc-list Sent: Sat, Dec 14, 2013 11:24 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37 Richard, Congrats on your new boat. I'm in the market for my first C&C. Growing up my family owned a C&C 25, C&a

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-15 Thread Bill Coleman
List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard N. Bush Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 12:37 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37 Hello friends; I am happy to let you know that I have just received delivery of my fourth (yes 4th!), C&

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37 (Now: pedestal info)

2013-12-14 Thread Fred Hazzard
14, 2013 3:12 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37 (Now: pedestal info) I'm probably not going to be of much help there. I have the style of Edson pedestal that has the shift lever to port and the throttle control to starboard. They both work in

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-14 Thread Jim Watts
Paging Mr. Kilgour. On 14 December 2013 20:23, Tom Lynch wrote: > Richard, > > Congrats on your new boat. I'm in the market for my first C&C. Growing > up my family owned a C&C 25, C&C 34, and I raced on a C&C 35 MK II. > > I'm looking for a boat for Bayfield WI on Lake Superior for my young

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-14 Thread Tom Lynch
Richard, Congrats on your new boat. I'm in the market for my first C&C. Growing up my family owned a C&C 25, C&C 34, and I raced on a C&C 35 MK II. I'm looking for a boat for Bayfield WI on Lake Superior for my young family, I have two boys age 7 and 4. My search has narrowed to the 33 MKII,

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37 (Now: pedestal info)

2013-12-14 Thread Dave Godwin
deal; what do you have and do > have and what would you recommend? > > Richard > > Richard N. Bush Law Offices > 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite 9 > Louisville, Kentucky 40220 > 502-584-7255 > -Original Message- > From: Dave Godwin > To: cnc-list >

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-14 Thread Richard N. Bush
4, 2013 2:34 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37 Congratulations Richard! We've had ours for 17 years now and have loved it. Pretty sure you will to. If you get around to the Chesapeake Bay stop by and tie up. Also, if you ever need old used parts I've got a bun

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-14 Thread Dave Godwin
Congratulations Richard! We've had ours for 17 years now and have loved it. Pretty sure you will to. If you get around to the Chesapeake Bay stop by and tie up. Also, if you ever need old used parts I've got a bunch lying around. ;-) Cheers, Dave 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin Sent from my iPhone > On D

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-14 Thread Pete Shelquist
On Behalf Of Richard N. Bush Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:37 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37 Hello friends; I am happy to let you know that I have just received delivery of my fourth (yes 4th!), C&C; a 1985 37; centerboard model.

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-13 Thread wwadjo...@aol.com
nvite the folks from St. Louis and have a Midwest rendezvous! Richard Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite 9 Louisville, Kentucky 40220 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: wwadjourn To: cnc-list Sent: Fri, Dec 13, 2013 3:52 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List : new boat,

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-13 Thread Jim Watts
e, Kentucky 40220 > 502-584-7255 > -Original Message----- > From: wwadjourn > To: cnc-list > Sent: Fri, Dec 13, 2013 3:52 pm > Subject: Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37 > > Richard, >I am in Cincinnati, my boat, a 36, in Michigan. When does your s

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-13 Thread Ronald B. Frerker
Breckenridge Lane, Suite 9 Louisville, Kentucky 40220 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: wwadjourn To: cnc-list Sent: Fri, Dec 13, 2013 3:52 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37 Richard,     I am in Cincinnati, my boat, a 36, in Michigan.  When does your spring ser

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-13 Thread Richard N. Bush
ws, maybe we can invite the folks from St. Louis and have a Midwest rendezvous! Richard Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite 9 Louisville, Kentucky 40220 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: wwadjourn To: cnc-list Sent: Fri, Dec 13, 2013 3:52 pm Subject: Re:

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-13 Thread wwadjo...@aol.com
Richard, I am in Cincinnati, my boat, a 36, in Michigan. When does your spring series begin? Bill Walker Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: "Richard N. Bush" To: Subject: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37 Date: Fri, Dec 13, 2013 12:37 AM Hello friends; I am happy to let you kn

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-13 Thread Steve Sharkey
t;> >> Dave >> >> >> >> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of >> *Richard >> N. Bush >> *Sent:* Friday, December 13, 2013 12:37 AM >> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-13 Thread Joel Aronson
e > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com 'cvml', 'cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com');>] *On Behalf Of *Richard N. Bush > *Sent:* Friday, December 13, 2013 12:37 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com');> > *

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-13 Thread David Jacobs
ll the other C&C owners out there of which I am now one of, Dave From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard N. Bush Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 12:37 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37 Hello friends; I am happ

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-13 Thread Joel Aronson
55 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: djhaughey > 'djhaug...@juno.com');>> >> To: cnc-list > 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com');>> >> Sent: Fri, Dec 13, 2013 6:24 am >> Subject: Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37 >> &g

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-13 Thread David Risch
Richard, Your a one man rendezvous! Congrats to a real C and C man. David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 cell -Original Message- From: "Richard N. Bush" Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 13:31:04 To: Subject: Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-13 Thread Andrew Burton
le, Kentucky 40220 > 502-584-7255 > -Original Message- > From: djhaughey > To: cnc-list > Sent: Fri, Dec 13, 2013 6:24 am > Subject: Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37 > > That's amazing Richard! Congratulations! How long ago did you buy your >

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-13 Thread Richard N. Bush
To: cnc-list Sent: Fri, Dec 13, 2013 6:24 am Subject: Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37 That's amazing Richard! Congratulations! How long ago did you buy your first C&C? Best of luck getting her into the water this spring! Danny T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Ne

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-13 Thread John and Maryann Read
N. Bush Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 12:37 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37 Hello friends; I am happy to let you know that I have just received delivery of my fourth (yes 4th!), C&C; a 1985 37; centerboard model. We had many issues getti

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-13 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
That's amazing Richard! Congratulations! How long ago did you buy your first C&C? Best of luck getting her into the water this spring! Danny T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network - Reply message - From: "Rich Knowles" To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Stus-List : new b

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-13 Thread Rich Knowles
Well done, Richard! A true bear for punishment! Rich > On Dec 13, 2013, at 1:37, "Richard N. Bush" wrote: > > Hello friends; I am happy to let you know that I have just received delivery > of my fourth (yes 4th!), C&C; a 1985 37; centerboard model. We had many > issues getting it trucked i

Re: Stus-List : new boat, 1985 C&C 37

2013-12-12 Thread Richard N. Bush
Hello friends; I am happy to let you know that I have just received delivery of my fourth (yes 4th!), C&C; a 1985 37; centerboard model. We had many issues getting it trucked in from Newburyport, MA; mostly weather related, but some delays due to the trucking company. It is in pretty good sha

Re: Stus-List New boat - actually own it now!

2013-11-19 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
Mark, Congratulations!!! Good luck!! Danny -- Original Message -- From: "Dr. Mark Bodnar" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List New boat - actually own it now! Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:23:18 -0400 So the deed is done. I decided to throw caution into the wind and I

Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30

2013-11-04 Thread Rick Brass
If I'm not mistaken, Holland Marine used to be a Canadian Seacraft dealer. They are too far away to look at the grid in your boat, but they may be able to identify the yard in your area that was the CS dealer. They could look at the boat and give you advice before you close your deal. Rick Bras

Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30

2013-11-04 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
to be updated before they would cover Lolita. Danny -- Original Message -- From: "Dr. Mark Bodnar" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30 Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 13:19:26 -0400 Bob, Had mechanic out looking at the engine - he checked motor mo

Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30

2013-11-04 Thread Jim Watts
I have an old PHRF NE rating for the CS 30 @ 150, compared to the C&C 30 rating of 174, which gives you some idea of comparative. On 4 November 2013 09:19, Jim Reinardy wrote: > A friend of mine is looking at a CS30 over in Michigan, but having trouble > finding any rating information. Any ide

Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30

2013-11-04 Thread Hoyt, Mike
PHRL-LO is 150 (as of 2011 book) From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Reinardy Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 1:20 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30 A friend of mine is looking at a CS30 over

Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30

2013-11-04 Thread Jim Reinardy
A friend of mine is looking at a CS30 over in Michigan, but having trouble finding any rating information. Any idea what the PHRF rating for one of these would be on the Great Lakes? Thanks, Jim Reinardy Sent from my iPad > ___ This List is provid

Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30

2013-11-04 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar
Bob, Had mechanic out looking at the engine - he checked motor mounts for me and said all looked good.  Also commented that the engine was running pretty smoothly. Don't think the holding tank was lost to damage - I don't think it ever got put in.  I

Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30

2013-11-04 Thread Wally Bryant
If I ever buy another project boat, I would rename it 'Chucky.' Bob Hickson wrote: A professional repair job for the damage to this boat was $20,000 several years ago. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com Cn

Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30

2013-11-04 Thread David Risch
IMHO too many good boats out there at low prices to consider any boats with any inkling of structural damage. 1981 40-2 David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 cell -Original Message- From: Bob Hickson Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 16:04:28 To:

Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30

2013-11-04 Thread David Risch
40-2 David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 cell -Original Message- From: Jim Watts Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 15:29:47 To: Subject: Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30 I have heard it is common practice, but in my view if your toilet is maintained so it

Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30

2013-11-04 Thread Jim Watts
c-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]*On Behalf Of *Jim > Watts > *Sent:* Sunday, November 03, 2013 11:00 PM > *To:* 1 CnC List > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30 > > The hull and deck of a CS36 is nice. The ports suck and make the whole > boat look "off", at least to me.

Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30

2013-11-04 Thread Hoyt, Mike
@cnc-list.comSubject: Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30The hull and deck of a CS36 is nice. The ports suck and make the whole boat look "off", at least to me. I expect to see a machine gun sticking out of one.I much prefer the look of a C&C 36, although they don't sail as well. The closest

Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30

2013-11-04 Thread Steve Thomas
riginal Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Jim Watts Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 11:00 PM To: 1 CnC List Subject: Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30 The hull and deck of a CS36 is nice. The ports suck and make the whole boat look "off", at least

Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30

2013-11-03 Thread Jim Watts
The hull and deck of a CS36 is nice. The ports suck and make the whole boat look "off", at least to me. I expect to see a machine gun sticking out of one. I much prefer the look of a C&C 36, although they don't sail as well. The closest competitor was a C&C 37, according to one broker. Apparently

Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30

2013-11-03 Thread Rich Knowles
I've done a variety of installation jobs on a number of CS boats. In general, they all appeared to of good solid construction by a reputable builder similar to C&C. Fit and finish were equivalent. Rich > On Nov 3, 2013, at 17:44, dwight veinot wrote: > > Haven't seen many posts about what C&

Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30

2013-11-03 Thread Dennis C.
Mark, Not a big deal to lay up a few layers of glass on those stringers.  Contact me off list and I'll tell you how to do it.  If you're not comfortable, a yard can do it few a few boat bucks. Holding tank isn't a big deal, either.  Lots of help for you here. Sounds like a decent boat to me. 

Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30

2013-11-03 Thread dwight veinot
Haven't seen many posts about what C&C owners here on this list can say about the CS brand...there has been considerable discussion on this list about appearance (on the ,ooring for example) and how much that means to C&C owners...how does the CS 30 rate in that regard with those willing to say and

Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30

2013-11-03 Thread Rich Knowles
Mark, better tread lightly and leave the seller with a bit of dignity. He may walk on you. Rich > On Nov 3, 2013, at 17:37, M Bod wrote: > > Rich, > Thanks for the feedback. That's the same thought I had. Overall very pleased > w boat - quality and quantity of sails was better than expected.

Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30

2013-11-03 Thread M Bod
Rich, Thanks for the feedback. That's the same thought I had. Overall very pleased w boat - quality and quantity of sails was better than expected. Sent the same email to CS owners list - replies suggest that its not a huge deal. I'd like seller to absorb part of the hit - but we'll see how th

Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30

2013-11-03 Thread Rich Knowles
Mark: if you have a reasonably good feeling about the boat, make the giant plunge. The price is reasonable and, no matter what boat you buy, you will be putting some money in to make it your boat. Decision time, Sir! And you're the one who has to make it! Rich > On Nov 3, 2013, at 16:14, M B

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-30 Thread Russ & Melody
rom: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of <mailto:djhaug...@juno.com>djhaug...@juno.com Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 1:27 PM To: <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Boat Mark said: surveyor before asked my no

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-30 Thread Jim Watts
older C&Cs are generally prettier > than almost any the younger models out there. > > ** ** > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of * > djhaug...@juno.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 30, 2013 1:27 PM > > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.c

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-30 Thread Rick Brass
s the difference may be that our older C&Cs are generally prettier than almost any the younger models out there. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 1:27 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-30 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
Mark said: AMEN to that brother! and you can buy insurance for the boat... ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-30 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar
m] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 1:37 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Boat This is why you want to have someone with you who is not overly interested in

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-30 Thread Hoyt, Mike
i would rather be the kid in the candy store with grand dad buying the candy! From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 1:37 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Boat

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-30 Thread Marek Dziedzic
parallel. Marek (in Ottawa) Message: 4 Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 12:31:59 GMT From: "djhaug...@juno.com" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Boat Message-ID: <20131030.083159.1571...@webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1&

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-30 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
Thanks for sharing the whole thing! I keep looking for your emails with anticipation!! Danny -- Original Message -- From: "Dr. Mark Bodnar" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Boat Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2013 02:37:40 -0300 Ok. Thanks for all the advi

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-30 Thread Rich Knowles
Check the keel bolt torque, Mark. Rich > On Oct 30, 2013, at 2:37, "Dr. Mark Bodnar" wrote: > > As for the "cracks" noted on the keel - I saw them when I looked at the boat. > Tiny cracks along the keel/hull joint -- small enough I bet they'd fill with > a coat or 2 of bottom paint. Looks

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-29 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar
Ok. Thanks for all the advice. With my initial offer I had asked for a $2000 holdback to make sure the engine was running in the spring --- but with the final counter from the seller they are saying "no holdback and no adjustments to purchase price"

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-29 Thread Bill Bina
Even a brand new boat should be surveyed before closing the deal. It can save you from ending up with a fatally flawed lemon that you will be making payments on, while not being able to use it. This HAPPENS. You can end up paying for and owning a brand new boat that is both unusable and unsella

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-29 Thread Stevan Plavsa
I can't even count how much money I've spent in my 2 years of ownership thus far. I don't really want to know to be honest! But at this point I have a boat that's pretty well sorted. That said, a boat ... well, it's not a sound financial decision no matter how you look at it so go nuts! Steve Suh

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-29 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
Yea, what Marek said...! -- Original Message -- From: "Marek Dziedzic" To: Subject: Re: Stus-List New Boat Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 08:53:16 -0400 Mark, I add my voice to the chorus recommending a survey. I know how it feels when you are spending over $20k on

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-29 Thread Marek Dziedzic
Mark, I add my voice to the chorus recommending a survey. I know how it feels when you are spending over $20k on a boat and suddenly everyone starts asking for $200 here and $500 there (I bought a new(er) boat last year). But that $600 will be money well spent. It will either show that most o

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-29 Thread Stevan Plavsa
Get a good survey. I can send you Suhana's survey, it's a lot more thorough and will give you an idea of what you're missing in that one. I purchased Suhana this time of year and she was already laid up for the winter. The deal was made conditional, there was 2k set aside in escrow in case the mot

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-29 Thread Rich Knowles
Sounds as though you may have found your boat, Mark. The advice to get a good survey is sound. I am a bit concerned about "The fibreglass along the hull to keel joint is cracked. The cracking is not into the hull and is not considered significant. It has had a recent repair but should be reworke

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-28 Thread dwight
I am not sure that you will be able to get insurance with that survey, get it surveyed for you specifically by someone your insurance company recognizes if you can, there are lots of us who get our boats surveyed every 5 years for insurance purposes in this area _ From: CnC-List [mail

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-28 Thread Indigo
You MUST get your own survey - not rely on one done for the owner. A friend of mine relied on a survey done by a broker/owner of a Choy Lee. Bad mistake. The surveyor "missed" some really big and expensive items. Definite conflict of interest. You don't know what instructions the owner gave to

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-28 Thread Graham Collins
Hi Mark Congrats! As others have mentioned, I will add my voice - get the engine checked out. If the engine doesn't run then she is no bargain. I'd also lean toward getting a survey done, the one provided does appear to be an "insurance grade" survey. Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-28 Thread Chuck S
Sounds like you are past this step if you have an "Accepted Offer"? There's a great book that explains how to check boats yourself. Many things you can check yourself, before hiring a surveyor. http://www.amazon.com/Inspecting-Sailboat-International-Marine-Library/dp/0071445455 Ask your insu

Re: Stus-List New Boat

2013-10-28 Thread Jack Brennan
M To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Boat The single biggest ticket item to have carefully evaluated is the engine. If that has issues it could double the cost of the boat all by itself. Bill Bina On 10/28/2013 3:31 PM, djhaug...@juno.com wrote: Doesn't look to bad... N

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2013-10-28 Thread Rick Taillieu
Mark, Nice boat. Check with your insurance company but my guess is they will want a new survey before they insure it. Good Luck Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 C&C 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf O

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2013-10-28 Thread Bill Bina
The single biggest ticket item to have carefully evaluated is the engine. If that has issues it could double the cost of the boat all by itself. Bill Bina On 10/28/2013 3:31 PM, djhaug...@juno.com wrote: Doesn't look to bad... Nice thing about the boat having been on the hard for two years,

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2013-10-28 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
Doesn't look to bad... Nice thing about the boat having been on the hard for two years, covered, is that she will be bone dry, hopefully, for the glass repair work! Looking at that survey, she doesn't need much. Did he run a moisture meter everywhere? I don't know, I'd probably have a guy surv

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2013-10-28 Thread j...@svpaws.net
Second the cleaning the tank idea - especially since the boat has sat for a few years. Congrats &good luck John Sent from my iPad > On Oct 28, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Jim Bradley wrote: > > If you can handle most of the work by yourself, this could be a good deal !! > I would replace cushions an

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2013-10-28 Thread Jim Bradley
If you can handle most of the work by yourself, this could be a good deal !! I would replace cushions and foam. If it's a diesel engine I would replace both filters and remove and clean tank. Jim Bradley Allegro Andante C&C34+ Barrie, Ontario Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 15:45:37 -0300 From

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2013-10-28 Thread Jim Watts
That survey is superficial enough to be just for insurance. Yes, get a real survey. I would not buy a boat without one. It could cost you a few hundred, it could save you many thousands... On 28 October 2013 11:45, Dr. Mark Bodnar wrote: > > > I now have an accepted offer on > > http://www.yach

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2013-10-03 Thread Hoyt, Mike
... great sailing boat but too big for BHYC crane From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight veinot Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 3:04 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New Boat NOT A boat is worth exactly

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2013-10-03 Thread dwight veinot
r the purchase. > > > > Mike > > Nut Case > > > > -Original Message- > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. > > Mark Bodnar > > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 5:39 PM > > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >

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2013-10-02 Thread Bill Bina
When I went to insure my boat for "agreed hull value", the insurance company started out with a value based on the surveryor's appraisal, which was based on a blue book valuation. I debated this with them, and supplied many listings that reflected what it would cost to buy a similar boat. They

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2013-10-02 Thread Bob Hickson
Message- > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. > Mark Bodnar > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 5:39 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List New boat - NOT >____________ > From: Joel Aronson >To:

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2013-10-02 Thread Dennis C.
ll use KBB.  If I'm a buyer, I'll use Edmunds or call my insurance provider. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA > > From: Joel Aronson >To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" >Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 7:53 AM >Subject

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2013-10-02 Thread Joel Aronson
s needs or wants as that saves a ton of money after the purchase. > > Mike > Nut Case > > -Original Message- > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. > Mark Bodnar > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 5:39 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc

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2013-10-02 Thread Hoyt, Mike
after the purchase. Mike Nut Case -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Mark Bodnar Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 5:39 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New boat - NOT Steve, I found NADA http://www.nadaguides.com

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2013-10-01 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar
gards, Bob Hickson, P. Eng, RHI, CEA C&C 29-2 Flying Colours Frenchman's Bay Yacht Club Pickering, ON (416) 919-2297 bobhick...@rogers.com __/) Message: 3 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 12:45:03 -0300 From: "Dr. Mark Bodnar" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-L

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2013-10-01 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar
s. Something to bear in mind as you compare prices online. Steve Thomas C&C27 MKIII Lake Erie -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Dr. Mark Bodnar Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 11:45 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List N

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2013-10-01 Thread Steve Thomas
---Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Dr. Mark Bodnar Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 11:45 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New boat - NOT Mike, Thanks for the heads up. That boat is with Sunnybrook Yacht brokers. They are asking

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2013-10-01 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar
Mike, Thanks for the heads up. That boat is with Sunnybrook Yacht brokers. They are asking ~$39000. Very few interior pictures online (which is a red flag after I looked at a boat earlier this summer where pictures were carefully taken to hide rot and water intrusion) There is another CS3

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2013-09-30 Thread Hoyt, Mike
Mark There is a CS30 called Kittiwake rumoured for sale at the Sunrise Shore Marina just outside Tatamagopuche, NS. Not sure the price. Is the model with the four ports rather than the big long windows. FYI Mike -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]

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2013-09-29 Thread Gary Nylander
version. Gary 1980 30-1. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 5:06 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List New boat - NOT Little stuff caught my eye - mismatched sheet stoppers, wiring in the nav station, screws in the hull liner forward, forward hatch, etc. Obviously

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2013-09-28 Thread Knowles Rich
That galley bulkhead looked odd to me too, possibly wet, but I think it's a shadow. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On Sep 28, 2013, at 17:04, "Dr. Mark Bodnar" wrote: John, What obvious DIY upgrades are you seeing? I studied the photos pretty closely (as again it's not a boat I can pop ove

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2013-09-28 Thread j...@svpaws.net
Little stuff caught my eye - mismatched sheet stoppers, wiring in the nav station, screws in the hull liner forward, forward hatch, etc. Obviously nothing major. The wood is crying for some oil but again that's minor. As I said, it looked like a nice boat. Good luck John Sent from my iPad

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2013-09-28 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar
John, What obvious DIY upgrades are you seeing? I studied the photos pretty closely (as again it's not a boat I can pop over an see) - few wet spots (galley bulkhead), some worn wood work, bit of rust in one speaker (chainplate leak?) But other wise I thought it looked good. Mark -

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2013-09-28 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar
Yes. I was ignoring the red flags that were trying to warn me. I figured she would be a bit dirty and need some TLC. Discussion with seller sounded good, thought it was worth a try, heck, if it had worked out I would have had the boat for 1/2 what they are asking locally even after transpo

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2013-09-28 Thread Brent Driedger
The photos of the CS don't raise my red flags like the 29 did. She looks like a nice boat. Good luck with her. Brent 27-5 Lake Winnipeg Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 28, 2013, at 11:16 AM, "j...@svpaws.net" wrote: > > Certainly a lot more boat that what you described of the "bargain" boat.

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2013-09-28 Thread j...@svpaws.net
Certainly a lot more boat that what you described of the "bargain" boat. Good luck. I would be a little cautious of the obvious DIY upgrades but overall a nice looking boat. John Sent from my iPad > On Sep 28, 2013, at 12:05 PM, "Dr. Mark Bodnar" > wrote: > > > So the new boat is a bust

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