Mark,
       What are the "NADA" valuations you refer to?
 You won't find a CS30 for $15k on the Great Lakes unless it has some serious 
problem.
 If I found a good one for that price I would buy it tomorrow.
 Boats of all kinds are generally more expensive here than on the east coast, 
but that is for a good reason if the boat has been
here all its life.
 Fresh water, a 6 month sailing season, and annual haul out for winter all 
contribute to better preserved boats.
 Something to bear in mind as you compare prices online.

Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII
Lake Erie

-----Original Message-----
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of Dr.
Mark Bodnar
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 11:45 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List New boat - NOT



Mike,
Thanks for the heads up.  That boat is with Sunnybrook Yacht brokers.
They are asking ~$39000.  Very few interior pictures online (which is a
red flag after I looked at a boat earlier this summer where pictures
were carefully taken to hide rot and water intrusion)

There is another CS30 for sale in Chester - I've talked to the broker
and I'm going down to check out the boat this wkend (pictures online are
not as clear - so harder to gauge condition)
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1986/Cs-30-2254686/Chester-Basin/Canada#.Ukrs_4asiM4

They are asking $31000.  But I keep making the mistake of thinking that
the asking price has some relation to the actual selling price.
Figuring that a boat listed for $22500 in Boston should be easier to
negotiate down to $15-16K vs a boat listed at $31K --- but then I
remember that one C&C32 I was watching online, but didn't go to look at
because it was too expensive at $30000 came back up for private sale for
$16500.  I need to not worry about "offending" a seller, be comfortable
offering what I think the boat should sell for - if they refuse then I
move on.

Looking at NADA values online the CS30 is avg $15000.  The broker says
the sellers are "motivated" - we'll see how much if the boat looks
good.  I figure bringing a boat back from the US adds $2-4000 to my
cost.  So if I can get a local boat for a couple grand more then I'm even.

Mark

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   Dr. Mark Bodnar
B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C)
Bedford Chiropractic
www.bedfordchiro.ca
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There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
   - George Santayana

On 30/09/2013 9:40 AM, Hoyt, Mike wrote:
> Mark
>
> There is a CS30 called Kittiwake rumoured for sale at the Sunrise Shore
> Marina just outside Tatamagopuche, NS.  Not sure the price.  Is the
> model with the four ports rather than the big long windows.
>
> FYI
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr.
> Mark Bodnar
> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 1:05 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List New boat - NOT
>
>
> So the new boat is a bust!
>
> I was thinking I had a chance to get a great deal, a boat in fair
> condition for a good price, just in need of some cosmetic cleaning etc.
>
> Unfortunately no.  Surveyor found the boat was full of mold, cushions
> wet and moldy, stove rusted beyond repair, bilge full of rain water,
> manual bilge pump not functional, anchors rusted to point of needing
> replacement,   Plus the usual minor issues - scrapes and scuffs in the
> gel coat etc.
> With the bilge full of water the surveyor was unable to properly check
> the keel bolts or the mast step.
> All told, just does not make sense.  And yes, I know, a few people on
> this list warned me of exactly these issues, but I couldn't help from
> trying to find that great deal where you catch a seller at just the
> right time.
> Thanks for the advice and offers of assistance.  Rich had offered to
> help sail the boat back
>
> Now I'm back looking at the CS 30 I posted.  More expensive, but boat
> looks in much better condition.  Bill, I appreciate the personal
> recommendation with the broker.  Discussed the boat with him, he says it
>
> has a few cosmetic issues but that the owner died last winter and the
> adult, non-sailing, children are selling the boat.  He feels they will
> likely be open to an offer given the boat will start costing them winter
>
> storage fees within a few weeks.
> http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1988/Cs-30-2638685/Hingham/MA/United-Sta
> tes#.Ukb-NYasiM4
>
> If it does go ahead I don't want to take that much time off work to sail
>
> the boat all the way home, but I have a local skipper who I was
> organizing to bring back the C&C29, and we should be able to organize
> getting the boat home in mid Oct if I go ahead with the CS.  I'm hoping
> if we time it right that I can drive down to Yarmouth and hop on the
> boat with him to bring it up the coast of NS.
>
> We'll see how it goes.  I'm still willing to stick with my little Mirage
>
> 24 if I can't find the right deal.
>
> Mark
>


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