Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30

[Hoyt, Mike]

Jim I believe the numerous smaller ports on the CS boats open. Ventilation is a nice feature Our last boat had the window layout same as c&c 27 and 30. 35 inch aluminum framed window in main cabin and 12 inch one forward.   Replaced the small ports with opening ports and it was a huge difference. Mike From: Jim Watts Sent: Monday, November 4, 2013 12:00 AM To: 1 CnC List Reply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List New boat - CS30 The hull and deck of a CS36 is nice. The ports suck and make the whole boat look "off", at least to me. I expect to see a machine gun sticking out of one. I much prefer the look of a C&C 36, although they don't sail as well. The closest competitor was a C&C 37, according to one broker.  Apparently they are great sea boats, but the toilets aren't very functional. The last remark was because a friend was on a CS36 coming back from Hawaii and they didn't allow any toilet paper going down the toilet...huh? Keeping a can of used toilet paper for three weeks is not my idea of a good time. I'm assuming they kept it as a souvenir, and didn't just heave it overboard. For all I know, it's still up on the trophy wall in their basement. On 3 November 2013 19:44, Robert Abbott <robertabb...@eastlink.ca> wrote: No specific experience with the CS brand but my understanding is that they are as well constructed as C&C's.  A club member wanted a larger port in the head of his new CS 36...I saw the piece of 'deck' he cut out.....now that was impressive.   I'll bite......is a C&C 30 a prettier looking boat than the CS 30, yep.  Is a C&C 36 a prettier looking boat than a CS 36, nope! Bob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2013/11/03 5:44 PM, dwight veinot wrote: Haven't seen many posts about what C&C owners here on this list can say about the CS brand...there has been considerable discussion on this list about appearance (on the ,ooring for example) and how much that means to C&C owners...how does the CS 30 rate in that regard with those willing to say and does anyone have any comments about overall quality of construction of CS boats that may be beneficial news for buyers On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Rich Knowles <r...@sailpower.ca> wrote: Mark:  if you have a reasonably good feeling about the boat, make the giant plunge. The price is reasonable and, no matter what boat you buy, you will be putting some money in to make it your boat. Decision time, Sir! And you're the one who has to make it! Rich > On Nov 3, 2013, at 16:14, M Bod <drbod...@accesswave.ca> wrote: > > > > Just back from a few hours digging though the boat. > Sails look good. Better than expected. > > Bottom looks good. > Rudder was stiff when I moved it by hand (after I loosened the brake) - wonder if there is a grease nipple? > > Deck and gear all look solid. Windows need to be replaced, couple of spider cracks near 3 stantion bases. > > Mechanic started engine - bit argumentative, plus has a leak in raw water part of cooling system (which explains why engine is rusty)  but overall looks good and ran well. Est $200 to fix leak and tidy up wiring, another $150 for new alternator (which was a bit rough from the water leak) > > Couple suprises > Talking w one of the owners he commented that they had hit a rock years back and the keel was repaired. Looking in the bilge the mast step looked good - but near the back (last set of double keel bolts) there were a few fine cracks in the stringers. > I'm guessing the impact pushed back and up on the keel. I forgot to take a picture - but at the top of the stringer the crack was maybe 1-2mm, the crack line was just across the top of the stringer (right where the cross stinger met the longitudinal brace), didn't extend down the stringer far - 1-4 cm.  I'd say about 3 on either side. > Boat is resting on it keel - so crack should show its worst. > Any guesses on repair cost?? > Owners have been adamant that there is no more negotiation. > > Also - boat had NO holding tank. Under the pump out hole there was no hose, and no tank under the v-berth. These owners had the boat since new - guessing they had the option of not adding the holding tank  ?? > > As for the shower - boat has no hot water system at all. So adding a shower would not be a simple job. Not sure its to important, but a nice extra with a few teenagers > > Last the 'metal cradle in need of some repair' is actually a wood cradle that has been sitting for 2 yrs in long grass. I'd guess 1/4 of the wood needs replacing - so likely better off just starting from scratch. > > Didn't get a full survey. Contacted several surveyors and only one bothered to respond and he was not avail.  Not sure a survey tells me anything I didn't just discover (other than a quote for repairs). > > I don't think I'm running screaming. The cracks were pretty small. > > Thoughts?  Would you run away? Play hard ball to chop off some costs? (And if they refused what would you do?) > > Mark > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Dwight Veinot Alianna C&C 35 MKII Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com -- Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC

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