Steve,
I found NADA
http://www.nadaguides.com/Boats/Sailboats
online at some point. If I understand it correctly these are the values
that insurance companies and banks will place on a boat - sort of a
"black book value"
I realize that the prices may not be accurate to Canada or different
regions - but I use it as a rough approximation of relative value
between boats as well as a rough estimate of the price of a boat.
Mark
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Bedford Chiropractic
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On 01/10/2013 1:47 PM, Steve Thomas wrote:
Mark,
What are the "NADA" valuations you refer to?
You won't find a CS30 for $15k on the Great Lakes unless it has some serious
problem.
If I found a good one for that price I would buy it tomorrow.
Boats of all kinds are generally more expensive here than on the east coast,
but that is for a good reason if the boat has been
here all its life.
Fresh water, a 6 month sailing season, and annual haul out for winter all
contribute to better preserved boats.
Something to bear in mind as you compare prices online.
Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII
Lake Erie
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Mike,
Thanks for the heads up. That boat is with Sunnybrook Yacht brokers.
They are asking ~$39000. Very few interior pictures online (which is a
red flag after I looked at a boat earlier this summer where pictures
were carefully taken to hide rot and water intrusion)
There is another CS30 for sale in Chester - I've talked to the broker
and I'm going down to check out the boat this wkend (pictures online are
not as clear - so harder to gauge condition)
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1986/Cs-30-2254686/Chester-Basin/Canada#.Ukrs_4asiM4
They are asking $31000. But I keep making the mistake of thinking that
the asking price has some relation to the actual selling price.
Figuring that a boat listed for $22500 in Boston should be easier to
negotiate down to $15-16K vs a boat listed at $31K --- but then I
remember that one C&C32 I was watching online, but didn't go to look at
because it was too expensive at $30000 came back up for private sale for
$16500. I need to not worry about "offending" a seller, be comfortable
offering what I think the boat should sell for - if they refuse then I
move on.
Looking at NADA values online the CS30 is avg $15000. The broker says
the sellers are "motivated" - we'll see how much if the boat looks
good. I figure bringing a boat back from the US adds $2-4000 to my
cost. So if I can get a local boat for a couple grand more then I'm even.
Mark
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Dr. Mark Bodnar
B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C)
Bedford Chiropractic
www.bedfordchiro.ca
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There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
- George Santayana
On 30/09/2013 9:40 AM, Hoyt, Mike wrote:
Mark
There is a CS30 called Kittiwake rumoured for sale at the Sunrise Shore
Marina just outside Tatamagopuche, NS. Not sure the price. Is the
model with the four ports rather than the big long windows.
FYI
Mike
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Mark Bodnar
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 1:05 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List New boat - NOT
So the new boat is a bust!
I was thinking I had a chance to get a great deal, a boat in fair
condition for a good price, just in need of some cosmetic cleaning etc.
Unfortunately no. Surveyor found the boat was full of mold, cushions
wet and moldy, stove rusted beyond repair, bilge full of rain water,
manual bilge pump not functional, anchors rusted to point of needing
replacement, Plus the usual minor issues - scrapes and scuffs in the
gel coat etc.
With the bilge full of water the surveyor was unable to properly check
the keel bolts or the mast step.
All told, just does not make sense. And yes, I know, a few people on
this list warned me of exactly these issues, but I couldn't help from
trying to find that great deal where you catch a seller at just the
right time.
Thanks for the advice and offers of assistance. Rich had offered to
help sail the boat back
Now I'm back looking at the CS 30 I posted. More expensive, but boat
looks in much better condition. Bill, I appreciate the personal
recommendation with the broker. Discussed the boat with him, he says it
has a few cosmetic issues but that the owner died last winter and the
adult, non-sailing, children are selling the boat. He feels they will
likely be open to an offer given the boat will start costing them winter
storage fees within a few weeks.
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1988/Cs-30-2638685/Hingham/MA/United-Sta
tes#.Ukb-NYasiM4
If it does go ahead I don't want to take that much time off work to sail
the boat all the way home, but I have a local skipper who I was
organizing to bring back the C&C29, and we should be able to organize
getting the boat home in mid Oct if I go ahead with the CS. I'm hoping
if we time it right that I can drive down to Yarmouth and hop on the
boat with him to bring it up the coast of NS.
We'll see how it goes. I'm still willing to stick with my little Mirage
24 if I can't find the right deal.
Mark
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