Ok. Thanks for all the advice.
With my initial offer I had asked for a $2000 holdback to make
sure the engine was running in the spring --- but with the final
counter from the seller they are saying "no holdback and no
adjustments to purchase price" -- I get the impression they a
rather upset I pushed them so low. I figure they could have
simply refused, and waited another year....
That said - they are treating this like an "as is, where is" sale
now - and don't seem interested in any further negotiations about
holdbacks etc.
I talked to the mechanic that has worked on the engine the last
5-7 yrs today. I'm hoping to have him out to the boat on Sunday
to start it up, run it a bit and then re-winterize it - give me as
much of an "all clear" as he can.
He said he has had only minor issues with this motor over the
years - a small leak that has been fixed with new o-rings, a new
starter. That said he is not a big fan of Volvo diesels - feels
the parts are too expensive and the motor is not as solid as a
Yanmar - but that this particular boat has not had any sig
problems.
My insurance has accepted the existing survey on the boat. But I
think I'll take the recommendations and go ahead with a full
survey myself - at least that will give me the start of a "to do"
list for the boat.
As for the "cracks" noted on the keel - I saw them when I looked
at the boat. Tiny cracks along the keel/hull joint -- small
enough I bet they'd fill with a coat or 2 of bottom paint. Looks
like a little bit of filler or caulk fell out.
Mark
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Dr. Mark Bodnar
B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C)
Bedford Chiropractic
www.bedfordchiro.ca
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There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
- George Santayana
On 28/10/2013 3:45 PM, Dr. Mark Bodnar wrote:
I now have an accepted offer on
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1986/Cs-30-2254686/Chester-Basin/Canada#.Um6d-fmsiM4
I think I got them as low as they would go. They started at
$32000 Cdn - in the end we agreed to $22500. I have to pay for
the winter storage and the broker took $1000 decrease in fees to
get the boat sold. The seller is adamant that they will not lower
the purchase price irrespective of new survey results.
I think it's a good deal. I could get a similar boat for a little
less in Boston, but shipping it back adds to the hassle and eats
up much of the savings. I took Mike's advice and tried to
negotiate the local boat rather than trying to buy something
1200km away.
This boat looks great in the photos - but it's been on the hard
for the last 2 years. Well stored, dry, under a custom cover, but
it does have some issues that will need to be addressed. Simple
stuff like oiling the teak and cleaning. Re-covering cushions. A
little bit of repair work on some wood. Few bigger issues - the
cradle needs repair (metal so I'll likely need to get a welder at
it), the main side windows have vertical cracks so all the plexi
will need to be replaced.
Engine has been serviced regularly (and re-winterized while on the
hard).
Rich had commented that I might be chasing rainbows, trying to
find a boat that could do everything for me but not spend any
money. We didn't get out for a beer yet, but I did take his
advice and move my purchase price up so I could get a better
condition boat rather than searching for the super bargain. I
think size wise this boat gives me enough room to enjoy with the
family, but still small enough to keep the work load and costs
manageable.
Recent survey is attached. My question - would you re-survey the
boat? The survey seems rather superficial - maybe just done for
insurance purposes? Boat has not been in the water since the
survey.
I spent about 75min crawling around the boat with the broker.
Tapped at the deck with the handle of a screwdriver, plus used my
cdn tire moisture meter - sounded ok to me (no dead spots), the
moisture meter picked up a couple areas that were slightly higher
than others (25% vs 16-18% I think).
Hull and deck looked good - even with no deformations. Engine had
a bit of surface rust.
Few interior stains on woodwork - but all looked/felt solid.
I'm planning on heading back down myself to dig through the sails
in the storage locker and the other gear before we finalize - but
I'm not sure if I should do a new survey.
BTW - thanks for all the help getting to this point. I've learned
a lot from watching the discussions going back and forth and I've
saved multiple email threads in preparation for things like
re-plumbing my head etc.
Even if I end up with the CS, I will likely continue to lurk on
this list - too much good info to pass it up.
Mark
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CONDITIONAL
SURVEY
VESSEL:
“SEA FEVER”
March 2012
At
the request of the Owner I carried out a Conditional Survey on
the C.S. 30 Fibreglass Sloop “Sea Fever”.
The
vessel is in winter storage at Gold River Marina and the
steering wheel, the electronics, batteries and life saving
equipment have been removed from the vessel and retained by
the Owner.
Underwater
Hull
– Generally
in good condition with the following defects:
Starboard
Side
The
fibreglass along the hull to keel joint is cracked. The
cracking is not into the hull and is not considered
significant. It has had a recent repair but should be
reworked.
The
strut for the propeller shaft has cracking around the hull
connection and the filling has worked loose.
Port
Side
The
fibreglass along the hull to keel joint is cracked. The
cracking is not into the hull and is not considered
significant.
The
strut for the propeller shaft has cracking around the hull
connection and the filling has worked loose.
There are a few places where the glass covering on the keel
have worn through and the lead keel is exposed.
There are 2 small knicks in the fibreglass on the transom.
Antifouling
Antifouling should be re-coated.
Rudder
Good condition but some fibreglass
cracking around the pintle bearing.
2
Propellor & Shaft
Good condition overall.
Topsides
The
topsides are in good condition. No evidence of cracks or
stress. No dock damage, but should be polished.
Deck
Area
The
deck is in good condition with no gel coat cracking.
Stanchions are in good condition.
The
forward hatch glass cover is water stained.
There are 2 Lewmar 30 winches and 2 Lewmar 43 winches, all in
good working condition.
Interior
The
interior is in good condition but shows evidence of water
leaks, the brightwork requires refinishing, the settee
cushions are in good condition.
The
bilges are clean with no obvious oil leaks. There is a 2-1/2lb
dry chemical extinguisher adjacent to the engine box, which
appears to be in good condition, but has no expiry date. It is
fully charged at this time. There is a second 2-1/2lb chemical
extinguisher adjacent to the galley stove. This is not mounted
on a bulkhead and in places the paint on the body of this unit
is peeling. It shows fully charged but I would recommend
replacement.
The
galley stove is a 2 burner propane unit with an oven, it
appears to be in reasonable condition. The propane cylinder is
stored in a locker in the stern of the vessel.
The
head is located at the forward end on the starboard side, this
is in a clean and good working condition.
The
batteries have an approved type shut off switch. They were in
storage and not on board at the time of inspection.
3
Engine
The
engine compartment has antifreeze under the engine and there
is leak from the circulating pump. The engine is a 2 cylinder
Volvo Penta with a reduction gear. Oil levels were checked and
were satisfactory.
The
through hulls were hammer tested and appear satisfactory.
Electrical
The electrical wiring is in good
condition. The system has a battery shut off switch and a
breaker panel. Both are clean and dry and in good condition.
Equipment
All of the navigation equipment and
safety equipment have been removed for the winter.
There is a 6" Galaxy compass in the cockpit, which is in good
condition with no air bubbles. A Plough anchor with sufficient
rode is located in the fore peak - good condition.
Rigging
The
standing rigging is all stainless steel and in good condition.
The running rigging is in reasonable condition.
Recommendations
1.
Replace the galley fire extinguisher
2.
Have the propane system inspected by a licensed service person
3.
Check rockets and flares for expiry dates
4.
Repair cracks around rudder pintle
5.
Repair cracks around keel to hull joint
4
Conclusion
The
overall condition is good and this boat is suitable for the
intended service.
Some
cleaning is required inside the boat.
I would anticipate the present day
value to be in the range of $39,000
Alan
H. Altass
(S.N.A.M.E.
- C.I.M.E.)
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Dr. Mark Bodnar
B.Sc., D.C., FCCOPR(C)
Bedford Chiropractic
www.bedfordchiro.ca
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There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
- George Santayana
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