Mark, better tread lightly and leave the seller with a bit of dignity. He may 
walk on you. 
Rich

> On Nov 3, 2013, at 17:37, M Bod <drbod...@accesswave.ca> wrote:
> 
> Rich,
> Thanks for the feedback. That's the same thought I had. Overall very pleased 
> w boat - quality and quantity of sails was better than expected. 
> Sent the same email to CS owners list - replies suggest that its not a huge 
> deal. 
> 
> I'd like seller to absorb part of the hit - but we'll see how that shapes 
> out. 
> 
> Mark
> 
> Rich Knowles <r...@sailpower.ca> wrote:
> 
>> Mark:  if you have a reasonably good feeling about the boat, make the giant 
>> plunge. The price is reasonable and, no matter what boat you buy, you will 
>> be putting some money in to make it your boat. 
>> 
>> Decision time, Sir! And you're the one who has to make it!
>> 
>> Rich
>> 
>>> On Nov 3, 2013, at 16:14, M Bod <drbod...@accesswave.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Just back from a few hours digging though the boat. 
>>> Sails look good. Better than expected. 
>>> 
>>> Bottom looks good. 
>>> Rudder was stiff when I moved it by hand (after I loosened the brake) - 
>>> wonder if there is a grease nipple?
>>> 
>>> Deck and gear all look solid. Windows need to be replaced, couple of spider 
>>> cracks near 3 stantion bases. 
>>> 
>>> Mechanic started engine - bit argumentative, plus has a leak in raw water 
>>> part of cooling system (which explains why engine is rusty)  but overall 
>>> looks good and ran well. Est $200 to fix leak and tidy up wiring, another 
>>> $150 for new alternator (which was a bit rough from the water leak)
>>> 
>>> Couple suprises
>>> Talking w one of the owners he commented that they had hit a rock years 
>>> back and the keel was repaired. Looking in the bilge the mast step looked 
>>> good - but near the back (last set of double keel bolts) there were a few 
>>> fine cracks in the stringers. 
>>> I'm guessing the impact pushed back and up on the keel. I forgot to take a 
>>> picture - but at the top of the stringer the crack was maybe 1-2mm, the 
>>> crack line was just across the top of the stringer (right where the cross 
>>> stinger met the longitudinal brace), didn't extend down the stringer far - 
>>> 1-4 cm.  I'd say about 3 on either side. 
>>> Boat is resting on it keel - so crack should show its worst. 
>>> Any guesses on repair cost??
>>> Owners have been adamant that there is no more negotiation. 
>>> 
>>> Also - boat had NO holding tank. Under the pump out hole there was no hose, 
>>> and no tank under the v-berth. These owners had the boat since new - 
>>> guessing they had the option of not adding the holding tank  ??
>>> 
>>> As for the shower - boat has no hot water system at all. So adding a shower 
>>> would not be a simple job. Not sure its to important, but a nice extra with 
>>> a few teenagers 
>>> 
>>> Last the 'metal cradle in need of some repair' is actually a wood cradle 
>>> that has been sitting for 2 yrs in long grass. I'd guess 1/4 of the wood 
>>> needs replacing - so likely better off just starting from scratch. 
>>> 
>>> Didn't get a full survey. Contacted several surveyors and only one bothered 
>>> to respond and he was not avail.  Not sure a survey tells me anything I 
>>> didn't just discover (other than a quote for repairs). 
>>> 
>>> I don't think I'm running screaming. The cracks were pretty small.
>>> 
>>> Thoughts?  Would you run away? Play hard ball to chop off some costs? (And 
>>> if they refused what would you do?)
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
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