n such a heated manner. Making
assumptions about someone else's opinions gets you no where.
Please keep your discussion to this thread a discussion and not an
argument between you and ciaranm. Please take those off this list.
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easy to read in raw form. My vote/opinion is to use a similar
format for news items which I'm pretty sure can be easily converted to
whatever format we end up using (GuideXML or not) for the site portion
of this GLEP.
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he conversion
script better than the script itself can.
Poke at that :-)
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GLEP and I get the impression you only skimmed through it. I suggest you
stick with exact wording from the GLEP for discussion on this thread
rather than assumptions made on arguments.
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 08:37:16 -0600 Lance Albertson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | Could we possibly use a system thats a mix of how GLSA's and GLEP's
> | are handled currently?
>
> Sure, if that makes sense from an infra perspective.
>>Hrm, but you didn't post it to -dev for discussion?
>
>
> If you wish, here it is. Made the changes the council asked for is all.
Sending it out a day before the meeting isn't exactly a good thing. I'd
rather wait to look through those details instead of g
ere is no technical reason why any of this is necessary and it doesn't
> provide any tangible benefits that I can see. If a user really wants to
> know someone's role within the project, they can go look it up on the web
> site.
Exactly.
Please provide details why we can
Grant Goodyear wrote:
> Lance Albertson wrote: [Fri Nov 18 2005, 05:46:47PM CST]
>
>>Anyways, I don't see any problem with us giving them straight up
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] aliases. They won't have shell access, nor cvs so we
>>don't have to worry about that.
uestion I ask is if a 30
minute syncing of the repos sufficient for folks? (But perhaps this is a
topic better discussed later down the road, mainly curious about other
folks thoughts).
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Corey Shields wrote:
> On Friday 18 November 2005 03:46 pm, Lance Albertson wrote:
>
>>I'm very disappointed that the council did not wait on the vote for this
>>considering the sudden submission of the revision of the GLEP. I'm
>>curious the reasoning for going
decision you made? I certainly hope not.
To me, the most acceptable solution considering the circumstances should
have been "They didn't get the revised version out with proper time for
discussion. I think its best that we wait until the next meeting because
of some logistical issues that
Thierry Carrez wrote:
> Lance Albertson wrote:
>
>
>>Why do you feel bad about delaying their GLEP because of a mistake on
>>their part? Its their responsibility to repost the revised GLEP with
>>ample time before the meeting so that proper discussion can unfold. Y
Thierry Carrez wrote:
> Lance Albertson wrote:
>>I would have thought that the folks working on the GLEP
>>would consider asking infra about the logistics of that solution or that
>>even the council would be curious about that question as well.
>
>
> We have an in
this thread, and decided I would wait on
the revised glep to see what was finally decided on to try. Since I
never saw the revised glep until the day before the council vote, it
made it very hard for me to voice my opinion on the subdomain idea.
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ra. The council and GLEP authors were in line, but
weren't in line with infra. I would just like the vote to be
reconsidered or postponed until we properly come up with a logistical
solution that will work for infra.
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't see this coming.
> I'm going to keep my mouth shut on the backdoor comment, aside from
> stating that's behaviour I hope to _never_ see out of a trustee again.
> ~harring
*sigh* You're taking what I'm saying way too personally. All I'm after
is this vote to
since they
already do this for developers. They already have the tools/access to
the places for such things. Would rather not have another set of folks
with that access.
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a freaking month prior
> to the vote.
>
> It's not out of the blue, nor is the cvs ro requirement.
See above
> Which opens up an interesting question of how to get the council to do
> a re-vote on something, something that should be a _general_ process
> if implemented,
in 29 minutes. If we have a dedicated box that
does a direct sync, we can reduce that time to 30min. Is that needed, or
is the 25-55 minute lag good enough?
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Lares Moreau wrote:
> On Sat, 2005-11-19 at 18:13 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
>
>>is the 25-55 minute lag good enough?
> It may need to be good enough. Personally I would like to have < 5-7
> min. That way when I'm working with a dev, I can keep up to speed with
&
utes (or maybe
an hour, I don't quite remember) that's in testing currently. Check out
viewcvstest.g.o if you're curious. To me the cvs/svn server should only
be doing that, nothing more. For now, i think the dedicated rsync server
is the best route that will accomplish the needs of the
of doing it,
> yes, but this would be cheapest I know of right now)
Yeah, we defiantly could use a beefy new server for CVS/SVN. Just make
sure you chat with robbat2/Pylon on the specifics for the requirements.
I believe the main thing they wanted was lots of ram.
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ndled in a more orderly fashion.
I think we've fixed some of those issues with solar's script. You just
need to look at the list and make your assumptions. The script is great
to spitting out a list that you can look it. Its not 100%, but its good
enough to at least use.
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lem :-).
That was the most glaring thing I could see first off. I'll have to dig
through the site more later.
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rch function. For now, I think its best if they focus
their attention on the design and navigation and try to work on the
search box later.
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Ke
you get used to doing everything yourself. I haven't seen any
emails asking for help or people for releng. This is the first I've
heard of your troubles with not having adequate time for all the duties
you do yourself.
If you need help, please ask for it and at least try and get some
Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> Lance Albertson wrote:
>
>> If you are that overworked, perhaps you should find more people to help
>> with releng and the duties you have? I've been in a similar position as
>> yourself where its hard to find good quality folks that stick aro
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 09:54 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
>
>>>As I am now not only the Release Engineering lead, but also the x86
>>>Release Coordinator, I am fielding nearly 100% of these issues.
>>>
>>>I DO NOT HAVE THE TIME
server. It would be synced on a regular basis to a separate
box. The newer cvs (which isn't on lark yet) may give us capabilities to
have a more 'live' cvs anon system. But as of now, the best infra can
provide is 30 minute updates. I don't want to poll the cvs more than
that t
to
keep the management of lark to the minimum if at all possible, so for
now I would prefer a restricted rsync module or cvs box that gets
updated every X minutes.
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because I am without
> amd64 equipment until after equipment.
I would rather resolve the issue now rather than integrate 50 or more
people into our cvs system and 'fix' it later. Lets just be patient and
we'll sort out the technical details soon enough.
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misquoting him. This could have
been caught if it would have been sent to -core like its been done in
the past. How can we contribute if you don't post what you're going to
send before you send it?
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il members thought it was ok, not giving any of the other
developers proper time to respond to the GLEP is not a good decision.
That's just asking me to scream 'cabal!' ;-) (even though I know that
wasn't the case at all).
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this is the 'simplest' solution to that
problem. If they can't keep up with doing a simple renewal every 6 mo,
then they don't have enough time to be an AT in my mind.
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is really should have been sent to the security mailing list and
> cc-ed the security team
>
> this has come up before on those lists, i just dont remember the
> outcome :P
Don't forget about jforman!
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t wait a few days so other devs/users
> gets a chance to look at it?
I second that, why does it need to be implemented so fast? Seems like
we've been doing fine without for a while now, having to push it in a
day makes no sense to me. Please use some common sense next time when
doing thing
gt;
>>Do you mind addressing http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/34397
> You are kidding?
> It had enough time now.
A lot of people take this whole week off or on vacation away from email.
Plus, I have yet to see a reason why it has to be pushed over the
holidays and not wa
come up
with a solid solution that makes sense and still gives them some form of
ability to look back.
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better. Maybe we're just happy with being where we're
at. I know I'm not. There's a niche that Gentoo fits really well and I
think we should focus on perfecting that niche instead of trying to be
better than distroA or distroB.
Ok, thats all my ranting for today. Hopefully I did
Lares Moreau wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 12:14 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
> I have been involved with many Volunteer organisations over the last
> couple years. Not all computer related. Something Gentoo is notably
> missing is a Mission Statement. IMO a Mission statement acts
ere. I think Gentoo is dying a slow death right now
because of the lack of vision in the past few years. Thus why I brought
this topic up because I'd like to see us move forward with progress.
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Patrick Lauer wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 12:50 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
>
>>A mission statement only goes so far. The underlying leadership has to
>>make sure that statement is upheld and kept alive. Too many folks have a
>>mission statement, but no one ever
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 11:25 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
>
>>>I'm also for telling the users to rsync exclude the ChangeLogs if they
>>>don't want them instead of getting rid of them or crippling them.
>>
>>I don't t
should
have goals that fit that. When I say "we have a niche we're perfect at",
I'm mainly referring to the source-based nature of our OS. There isn't
another distro out there that does it as well as us and we should
improve on that fact. Let the other distros get better
Grant Goodyear wrote:
> Lance Albertson wrote: [Mon Jan 02 2006, 12:14:05PM CST]
>
>>Gentoo has been missing some kind of direction/goal for some time now.
>>Looking back at the last two years, what are the major
>>changes/accomplishments that we have done? Granted, I kno
hat keeps track of all these
projects. They would keep track of all this and report back to the
council/devs/etc.
We've gotten to the size that trying to get everyone communicating with
everyone is getting difficult. Having someone overseeing these things
might help development and make sure
ically thinking that it'll turn into a
corporate bureaucratic mess is also incorrect. If you can open up your
mind and see past those automatic assumptions and see the value it would
be amazing.
Anyways, as I said. I give up on this getting anywhere.
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t all the comments made
from my thread earlier. You cannot make an enterprise distro without
focus or direction and a leader. You'll be stuck in committee decisions
all the time.
Not saying its impossible, but it won't be easy.
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that
won't break things for the general gentoo project. They could even
'start from scratch' and possibly fix the legacy issues right off. It
gives the enterprise group the flexibility of doing whatever they need
to do without the backlash of everyone else.
Just my thoughts on the whole
cflag differences, gcc
version differences, etc. The key one i'm after is use flags. I'm not
sure of the technical details behind it, but we need something to make
the binpkgs more useful outside of the local system. Having the ebuild
packed at the end is a great idea! I think its just ti
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 17:32 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>I think a key thing that is missing is build info that is only kept on
>>the installed system. If we were to ever create a build server setup, we
>>need to be able t
Brian Harring wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 10:55:50AM -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
>
>>A few rough ideas that just popped in my
>>head is either packing all of these versions into one tarball (not even
>>sure if thats feasible)
>>, or creating a hashed su
navigating the beast), thus it's a no go.
>
> Any docs generated should be googable imo.
If they are needing an initial place to start things off before they go
official, then the devwiki is a perfect place. Once they are ready to be
consumed by the other folks, they should be placed
the efforts of the
GDP which I'd rather not do. Not to mention deciding who would be
monitoring it and such (allocating people's time to it). I'm opposed to
any public wiki until the GDP states their opinion on it. Its their area
and I don't want to take it away from them.
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Luis Medinas wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 12:54 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
>
>>>>Devwiki is effectively inaccesable to non gentoo folks (whether in
>>>>access, or in navigating the beast), thus it's a no go.
>>>>
>>>>Any docs ge
yone that something is broke about it.
I could setup gorg on toucan or something to make things better for such
things. Just create a bug so I can put it on my todo list.
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fort on our part.
I sadly can't think of an answer. I guess the real question is, is this
that much of a problem/issue?
Who knows, its getting late in the night for me and I'm just starting to
think up crazy ideas :-)
In short: Do we need to re-evaluate Gentoo's documentation str
Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Lance Albertson wrote:
> | What if instead of having proj/en we did herd/en on www? Of course, that
> | doesn't help the whole "GuideXML is hard" bit. I like the idea of using
> | RST, but it doesn't seem very scalable at this time. Maybe,
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 01:17 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
>
>>I understand the block was lifted for projects, but that doesn't mean
>>herds should all should fit underneath proj/. I think we should open up
>>a similar space just for herds.
&g
Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Lance Albertson wrote:
> | I understand the block was lifted for projects, but that doesn't mean
> | herds should all should fit underneath proj/.
>
> I agree. What I meant is that herds should be grouping together to form
> new projects if they d
. When I
asked him about (he can probably provide more detail), It took a lot of
processing time and wasn't that scalable. Now, I'm not sure if anything
has changed since then.
I can probably setup toucan to use gorg in some fashion if I had a few
folks to test it with. I'm sure t
issues. Going on a witch hunt to fix one problem
compared to the bigger issues we know we have is simply silly. This is
really starting to look like a power issue rather than a QA issue.
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ething that stupid needs to be delt with quickly.
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blems/concerns/issues with Ciaran's attitude/actions, please comment
on bug #114944. (this bug is only open to Gentoo developers). Its better
if you say it yourself in this bug rather than letting other people
quoting what you say.
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Lance Albertson wrote:
> I should note that if are a Gentoo Developer and have
> problems/concerns/issues with Ciaran's attitude/actions, please comment
> on bug #114944. (this bug is only open to Gentoo developers). Its better
> if you say it yourself in this bug rather than let
of neatness, it shouldn't be waving
red flags. Yes, its probably something that should be fixed, but it
shouldn't be a critical one just because the tool is broken and can't
handle the weirdness.
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:09:28 +0100 Simon Stelling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> | > On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 11:35:34 -0600 Lance Albertson
> | > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | > | QA shouldn't have to de
, while others are still MIA.
Please be patient as they work on resolving the issue. I believe CVS
should be working now and the tree should be updating. Please let me
know if that is not the case.
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-
Lance Albertson wrote:
> It appears that the OSL had some kind of a power issue (which
> unfortunately included having some issues with the generator). They are
> still working on bringing machines back up, but anything thats tied to
> the database server is not working (bugs/forums/
o I have problems with your statement regarding infra having no
accountability.
I believe all devs have the most confidence in the council since it was
fairly voted upon by everyone.
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e last LWE I went to. Its an OO2 drawing file.
Edit to your liking (I took out my real numbers).
[1] http://dev.gentoo.org/~ramereth/misc/gentoo-buscard2.odg
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Greg KH wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 10:52:38PM -0500, Lance Albertson wrote:
>> Mike Frysinger wrote:
>>> On Friday 07 April 2006 19:39, Roy Marples wrote:
>>>>> ... some just want a generic Gentoo business card and the
>>>>> ones we had were
[1]. I'm not sure if that's exactly what
you're looking for, but its a really nice lightweight way of creating a
gentoo-like system w/o the things you described above. Take a look and
give it a shot :)
[1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/gnap.xml
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Key fingerprin
rovide a developer
restricted rsync module on the test box so that they can actually try
using their systems on there.
Anyways, I'd just thought I'd give my input since its going to need to
go through us eventually :). If people like the idea of having a SoC
project for this, let me
gave the anal people
the ability to at least have some form of validity. It is one of the
options I know of currently.
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ou who are
constantly bring up these non-technical topics thus pushing the issue
into oblivion.
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he Infrastructure Team should be affiliated
> with the decision :).
Heh, and people wonder how cabal rumors are started :-) I have to agree
with this. The only thing infra should be involved with is how it might
affect distribution to our users and/or hosting of stuff. We just make
stuff go, you guys
r" sounds a bit meagre, having his name listed
> there first, forever, is probably enough.
Make sure you use tags so you can't miss it either.
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coming Gentoo devs themselves... just in a
very long drawn out recruitment process. :-)
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gh
on questions. Ignoring them will only make the project less credible. I
do not support such tactics on infra if this is certainly the case.
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ore all the points in it and just go with this
without consulting the group first. If you can't sort out the issues
that have been brought out here, I'm afraid I'm going to have to decline
my support on infra hardware for this specific project (but not the
other overlays so people d
project that seemed to be
ignoring the issues at hand and I wasn't going to support the project on
infra if they continued to be like that.
Thanks for answering most of those questions. I'll let the developer
community decide if they like them or not :-).
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at most people don't have a problem with it, then it
should ok to assume that its 'more' official. Now if its discussed and
several people point out issues with a project, and the project either
denies or ignores the issues that are brought up, then I would question
its officia
s and get them into the official rotation
Actually, the only rotation you can get on is a community one (which
minimizes the amount of users). All the servers under rsync.g.o are
strictly controlled by infra.
So nice try ...
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Alec Warner wrote:
> So apparently they suck, anyone have a new shiny idea on how to group
> packages and maintaining developers?
I suggest we create a murder of developers! Then we can be cool and not
suck! :-)
/me goes back into lurking mode
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middle of the nite ?
> -mike
Wouldn't you be afraid if I walked up to you in the middle of the night? :-)
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Mike Frysinger wrote:
> i clearly suck at dates
That's what Jeff said after your date with him. Said goats were better
than you! :-)
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ow I'll just disappear for the weekend, don't flame too much in my
> | absence ...
>
> That would also be a good start.
Indeed.
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eks? This all could have been avoided if you
had written out an RFC and asked for comments on it *before hand*. Don't
you agree?
And please please please ... Keep your responses to a technical level
and don't bring in personal issues. I have tried to keep my reply with
that in mind. If you h
ement-list (or make our developers/users). Our
-announce list certainly has the historical presence where the most of
our user-base would see something. I guess if this isn't the case, then
I don't see a problem with the new list.
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Marius Mauch wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 22:30:31 -0500
> Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Donnie Berkholz wrote:
>>
>>> I propose that all need-to-know announcements and decisions be
>>> posted to a separate, moderated (or restri
start abusing it, then we'll vote them off the
island :)
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might as well abuse it.
A lot of the stuff that's currently in the purgatory area also includes
sources for stuff we didn't make (upstream sources, etc). If you can
separate those files from Gentoo specific files, then it would be much
easier to manag (from an admin point of view). Its not
hiving the master mirror files (including purgatory stuff)
twice a week so that aspect is already done. But as I said earlier, I
don't want this machine to become a publically accessible machine. That
wasn't my intention when I set it up. I do have some options at this
location if we ne
es unless the demand is there.
> Suggest others are given time to weigh in on this rather then
> restating that you don't think there is demand for it.
>
> Nobody yays it, hey, folks have spoken and y'all go with the same
> non public backup.
I agree. I'm not shutting i
or
helping us :).
Thanks-
[1] http://www.gni.com/
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eally viewcv now) stuff.
Enjoy :)
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nd help make Gentoo better for all.
Cheers-
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in a technical debate. No
matter what either of you two think is technically right, you're both
right and both wrong.
/me goes back to lurking
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