Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting

2005-11-03 Thread Lance Albertson
n such a heated manner. Making assumptions about someone else's opinions gets you no where. Please keep your discussion to this thread a discussion and not an argument between you and ciaranm. Please take those off this list. Cheers- -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Inf

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting

2005-11-03 Thread Lance Albertson
easy to read in raw form. My vote/opinion is to use a similar format for news items which I'm pretty sure can be easily converted to whatever format we end up using (GuideXML or not) for the site portion of this GLEP. Cheers- -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infr

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting

2005-11-04 Thread Lance Albertson
he conversion script better than the script itself can. Poke at that :-) Cheers- -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5AB1 4D07 416F A15D 27F4 B742 ramereth/irc.freenode.net signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting

2005-11-04 Thread Lance Albertson
7;s GLEP and I get the impression you only skimmed through it. I suggest you stick with exact wording from the GLEP for discussion on this thread rather than assumptions made on arguments. Cheers- -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Pu

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP ??: Critical News Reporting

2005-11-04 Thread Lance Albertson
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 08:37:16 -0600 Lance Albertson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | Could we possibly use a system thats a mix of how GLSA's and GLEP's > | are handled currently? > > Sure, if that makes sense from an infra perspective.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council meeting Tuesday, November 15th, 20:00 UTC

2005-11-14 Thread Lance Albertson
>>Hrm, but you didn't post it to -dev for discussion? > > > If you wish, here it is. Made the changes the council asked for is all. Sending it out a day before the meeting isn't exactly a good thing. I'd rather wait to look through those details instead of g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-18 Thread Lance Albertson
ere is no technical reason why any of this is necessary and it doesn't > provide any tangible benefits that I can see. If a user really wants to > know someone's role within the project, they can go look it up on the web > site. Exactly. Please provide details why we can&#

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-18 Thread Lance Albertson
Grant Goodyear wrote: > Lance Albertson wrote: [Fri Nov 18 2005, 05:46:47PM CST] > >>Anyways, I don't see any problem with us giving them straight up >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] aliases. They won't have shell access, nor cvs so we >>don't have to worry about that.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-18 Thread Lance Albertson
uestion I ask is if a 30 minute syncing of the repos sufficient for folks? (But perhaps this is a topic better discussed later down the road, mainly curious about other folks thoughts). -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-18 Thread Lance Albertson
Corey Shields wrote: > On Friday 18 November 2005 03:46 pm, Lance Albertson wrote: > >>I'm very disappointed that the council did not wait on the vote for this >>considering the sudden submission of the revision of the GLEP. I'm >>curious the reasoning for going

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-19 Thread Lance Albertson
decision you made? I certainly hope not. To me, the most acceptable solution considering the circumstances should have been "They didn't get the revised version out with proper time for discussion. I think its best that we wait until the next meeting because of some logistical issues that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-19 Thread Lance Albertson
Thierry Carrez wrote: > Lance Albertson wrote: > > >>Why do you feel bad about delaying their GLEP because of a mistake on >>their part? Its their responsibility to repost the revised GLEP with >>ample time before the meeting so that proper discussion can unfold. Y

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-19 Thread Lance Albertson
Thierry Carrez wrote: > Lance Albertson wrote: >>I would have thought that the folks working on the GLEP >>would consider asking infra about the logistics of that solution or that >>even the council would be curious about that question as well. > > > We have an in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Request for changes to GLEP 41

2005-11-19 Thread Lance Albertson
this thread, and decided I would wait on the revised glep to see what was finally decided on to try. Since I never saw the revised glep until the day before the council vote, it made it very hard for me to voice my opinion on the subdomain idea. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gen

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-19 Thread Lance Albertson
ra. The council and GLEP authors were in line, but weren't in line with infra. I would just like the vote to be reconsidered or postponed until we properly come up with a logistical solution that will work for infra. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operat

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-19 Thread Lance Albertson
't see this coming. > I'm going to keep my mouth shut on the backdoor comment, aside from > stating that's behaviour I hope to _never_ see out of a trustee again. > ~harring *sigh* You're taking what I'm saying way too personally. All I'm after is this vote to

Re: [gentoo-dev] implementation details for GLEP 41

2005-11-19 Thread Lance Albertson
since they already do this for developers. They already have the tools/access to the places for such things. Would rather not have another set of folks with that access. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-19 Thread Lance Albertson
a freaking month prior > to the vote. > > It's not out of the blue, nor is the cvs ro requirement. See above > Which opens up an interesting question of how to get the council to do > a re-vote on something, something that should be a _general_ process > if implemented,

Re: [gentoo-dev] implementation details for GLEP 41

2005-11-19 Thread Lance Albertson
in 29 minutes. If we have a dedicated box that does a direct sync, we can reduce that time to 30min. Is that needed, or is the 25-55 minute lag good enough? -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lan

Re: [gentoo-dev] implementation details for GLEP 41

2005-11-19 Thread Lance Albertson
Lares Moreau wrote: > On Sat, 2005-11-19 at 18:13 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > >>is the 25-55 minute lag good enough? > It may need to be good enough. Personally I would like to have < 5-7 > min. That way when I'm working with a dev, I can keep up to speed with &

Re: [gentoo-dev] implementation details for GLEP 41

2005-11-19 Thread Lance Albertson
utes (or maybe an hour, I don't quite remember) that's in testing currently. Check out viewcvstest.g.o if you're curious. To me the cvs/svn server should only be doing that, nothing more. For now, i think the dedicated rsync server is the best route that will accomplish the needs of the

Re: [gentoo-dev] implementation details for GLEP 41

2005-11-19 Thread Lance Albertson
of doing it, > yes, but this would be cheapest I know of right now) Yeah, we defiantly could use a beefy new server for CVS/SVN. Just make sure you chat with robbat2/Pylon on the specifics for the requirements. I believe the main thing they wanted was lots of ram. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAI

Re: Retiring devs [was Re: [gentoo-dev] implementation details for GLEP 41]

2005-11-20 Thread Lance Albertson
ndled in a more orderly fashion. I think we've fixed some of those issues with solar's script. You just need to look at the list and make your assumptions. The script is great to spitting out a list that you can look it. Its not 100%, but its good enough to at least use. -- Lance Albe

Re: [gentoo-dev] status of http://wwwredesign.gentoo.org

2005-11-20 Thread Lance Albertson
lem :-). That was the most glaring thing I could see first off. I'll have to dig through the site more later. Cheers- -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0

Re: [gentoo-dev] opinion on how to improve the website redesign

2005-11-22 Thread Lance Albertson
rch function. For now, I think its best if they focus their attention on the design and navigation and try to work on the search box later. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Ke

Re: [gentoo-dev] Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation

2005-11-22 Thread Lance Albertson
you get used to doing everything yourself. I haven't seen any emails asking for help or people for releng. This is the first I've heard of your troubles with not having adequate time for all the duties you do yourself. If you need help, please ask for it and at least try and get some

Re: [gentoo-dev] Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation

2005-11-22 Thread Lance Albertson
Andrew Gaffney wrote: > Lance Albertson wrote: > >> If you are that overworked, perhaps you should find more people to help >> with releng and the duties you have? I've been in a similar position as >> yourself where its hard to find good quality folks that stick aro

Re: [gentoo-dev] Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation

2005-11-22 Thread Lance Albertson
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Tue, 2005-11-22 at 09:54 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > >>>As I am now not only the Release Engineering lead, but also the x86 >>>Release Coordinator, I am fielding nearly 100% of these issues. >>> >>>I DO NOT HAVE THE TIME

Re: [gentoo-dev] Email subdomain

2005-11-22 Thread Lance Albertson
server. It would be synced on a regular basis to a separate box. The newer cvs (which isn't on lark yet) may give us capabilities to have a more 'live' cvs anon system. But as of now, the best infra can provide is 30 minute updates. I don't want to poll the cvs more than that t

Re: [gentoo-dev] R/O CVS access and its purpose for ATs (was Email subdomain)

2005-11-23 Thread Lance Albertson
to keep the management of lark to the minimum if at all possible, so for now I would prefer a restricted rsync module or cvs box that gets updated every X minutes. Cheers- -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://ww

Re: [gentoo-dev] R/O CVS access and its purpose for ATs (was Email subdomain)

2005-11-24 Thread Lance Albertson
because I am without > amd64 equipment until after equipment. I would rather resolve the issue now rather than integrate 50 or more people into our cvs system and 'fix' it later. Lets just be patient and we'll sort out the technical details soon enough. Cheers- -- Lanc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Misquoted in the GWN

2005-11-28 Thread Lance Albertson
misquoting him. This could have been caught if it would have been sent to -core like its been done in the past. How can we contribute if you don't post what you're going to send before you send it? Cheers- -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Ma

Re: [gentoo-dev] December Council Meeting

2005-12-10 Thread Lance Albertson
il members thought it was ok, not giving any of the other developers proper time to respond to the GLEP is not a good decision. That's just asking me to scream 'cabal!' ;-) (even though I know that wasn't the case at all). -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastr

Re: [gentoo-dev] December Council Meeting

2005-12-11 Thread Lance Albertson
this is the 'simplest' solution to that problem. If they can't keep up with doing a simple renewal every 6 mo, then they don't have enough time to be an AT in my mind. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gee, wouldn't it be nice (security bugs)...

2005-12-14 Thread Lance Albertson
is really should have been sent to the security mailing list and > cc-ed the security team > > this has come up before on those lists, i just dont remember the > outcome :P Don't forget about jforman! -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Oper

Re: [gentoo-dev] mozextension.eclass

2005-12-25 Thread Lance Albertson
t wait a few days so other devs/users > gets a chance to look at it? I second that, why does it need to be implemented so fast? Seems like we've been doing fine without for a while now, having to push it in a day makes no sense to me. Please use some common sense next time when doing thing

Re: [gentoo-dev] mozextension.eclass last call!

2005-12-30 Thread Lance Albertson
gt; >>Do you mind addressing http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/34397 > You are kidding? > It had enough time now. A lot of people take this whole week off or on vacation away from email. Plus, I have yet to see a reason why it has to be pushed over the holidays and not wa

Re: [gentoo-dev] ChangeLogs and rsync time

2006-01-02 Thread Lance Albertson
come up with a solid solution that makes sense and still gives them some form of ability to look back. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5AB1 4D07 416F A15D 27F4 B742 ramereth/irc.freenode.net signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-02 Thread Lance Albertson
better. Maybe we're just happy with being where we're at. I know I'm not. There's a niche that Gentoo fits really well and I think we should focus on perfecting that niche instead of trying to be better than distroA or distroB. Ok, thats all my ranting for today. Hopefully I did

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-02 Thread Lance Albertson
Lares Moreau wrote: > On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 12:14 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > I have been involved with many Volunteer organisations over the last > couple years. Not all computer related. Something Gentoo is notably > missing is a Mission Statement. IMO a Mission statement acts

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-02 Thread Lance Albertson
ere. I think Gentoo is dying a slow death right now because of the lack of vision in the past few years. Thus why I brought this topic up because I'd like to see us move forward with progress. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-02 Thread Lance Albertson
Patrick Lauer wrote: > On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 12:50 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > >>A mission statement only goes so far. The underlying leadership has to >>make sure that statement is upheld and kept alive. Too many folks have a >>mission statement, but no one ever

Re: [gentoo-dev] ChangeLogs and rsync time

2006-01-02 Thread Lance Albertson
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 11:25 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > >>>I'm also for telling the users to rsync exclude the ChangeLogs if they >>>don't want them instead of getting rid of them or crippling them. >> >>I don't t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-02 Thread Lance Albertson
should have goals that fit that. When I say "we have a niche we're perfect at", I'm mainly referring to the source-based nature of our OS. There isn't another distro out there that does it as well as us and we should improve on that fact. Let the other distros get better

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-03 Thread Lance Albertson
Grant Goodyear wrote: > Lance Albertson wrote: [Mon Jan 02 2006, 12:14:05PM CST] > >>Gentoo has been missing some kind of direction/goal for some time now. >>Looking back at the last two years, what are the major >>changes/accomplishments that we have done? Granted, I kno

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-03 Thread Lance Albertson
hat keeps track of all these projects. They would keep track of all this and report back to the council/devs/etc. We've gotten to the size that trying to get everyone communicating with everyone is getting difficult. Having someone overseeing these things might help development and make sure

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-05 Thread Lance Albertson
ically thinking that it'll turn into a corporate bureaucratic mess is also incorrect. If you can open up your mind and see past those automatic assumptions and see the value it would be amazing. Anyways, as I said. I give up on this getting anywhere. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gen

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 19: Gentoo Stable Portage Tree -- ideas

2006-01-06 Thread Lance Albertson
t all the comments made from my thread earlier. You cannot make an enterprise distro without focus or direction and a leader. You'll be stuck in committee decisions all the time. Not saying its impossible, but it won't be easy. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Enterprise Future - Summary Attempt #2

2006-01-06 Thread Lance Albertson
that won't break things for the general gentoo project. They could even 'start from scratch' and possibly fix the legacy issues right off. It gives the enterprise group the flexibility of doing whatever they need to do without the backlash of everyone else. Just my thoughts on the whole

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 19: Gentoo Stable Portage Tree -- ideas

2006-01-06 Thread Lance Albertson
cflag differences, gcc version differences, etc. The key one i'm after is use flags. I'm not sure of the technical details behind it, but we need something to make the binpkgs more useful outside of the local system. Having the ebuild packed at the end is a great idea! I think its just ti

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 19: Gentoo Stable Portage Tree -- ideas

2006-01-08 Thread Lance Albertson
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 17:32 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > >> >> >>I think a key thing that is missing is build info that is only kept on >>the installed system. If we were to ever create a build server setup, we >>need to be able t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 19: Gentoo Stable Portage Tree -- ideas

2006-01-08 Thread Lance Albertson
Brian Harring wrote: > On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 10:55:50AM -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > >>A few rough ideas that just popped in my >>head is either packing all of these versions into one tarball (not even >>sure if thats feasible) >>, or creating a hashed su

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-08 Thread Lance Albertson
navigating the beast), thus it's a no go. > > Any docs generated should be googable imo. If they are needing an initial place to start things off before they go official, then the devwiki is a perfect place. Once they are ready to be consumed by the other folks, they should be placed

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-08 Thread Lance Albertson
the efforts of the GDP which I'd rather not do. Not to mention deciding who would be monitoring it and such (allocating people's time to it). I'm opposed to any public wiki until the GDP states their opinion on it. Its their area and I don't want to take it away from them. --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-08 Thread Lance Albertson
Luis Medinas wrote: > On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 12:54 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > >>>>Devwiki is effectively inaccesable to non gentoo folks (whether in >>>>access, or in navigating the beast), thus it's a no go. >>>> >>>>Any docs ge

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-09 Thread Lance Albertson
yone that something is broke about it. I could setup gorg on toucan or something to make things better for such things. Just create a bug so I can put it on my todo list. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-09 Thread Lance Albertson
fort on our part. I sadly can't think of an answer. I guess the real question is, is this that much of a problem/issue? Who knows, its getting late in the night for me and I'm just starting to think up crazy ideas :-) In short: Do we need to re-evaluate Gentoo's documentation str

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-09 Thread Lance Albertson
Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Lance Albertson wrote: > | What if instead of having proj/en we did herd/en on www? Of course, that > | doesn't help the whole "GuideXML is hard" bit. I like the idea of using > | RST, but it doesn't seem very scalable at this time. Maybe,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-10 Thread Lance Albertson
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 01:17 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > >>I understand the block was lifted for projects, but that doesn't mean >>herds should all should fit underneath proj/. I think we should open up >>a similar space just for herds. &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-10 Thread Lance Albertson
Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Lance Albertson wrote: > | I understand the block was lifted for projects, but that doesn't mean > | herds should all should fit underneath proj/. > > I agree. What I meant is that herds should be grouping together to form > new projects if they d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and simple guides

2006-01-10 Thread Lance Albertson
. When I asked him about (he can probably provide more detail), It took a lot of processing time and wasn't that scalable. Now, I'm not sure if anything has changed since then. I can probably setup toucan to use gorg in some fashion if I had a few folks to test it with. I'm sure t

Re: [gentoo-dev] SRC_URI component naming collision

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Albertson
issues. Going on a witch hunt to fix one problem compared to the bigger issues we know we have is simply silly. This is really starting to look like a power issue rather than a QA issue. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: &

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-27 Thread Lance Albertson
ething that stupid needs to be delt with quickly. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5AB1 4D07 416F A15D 27F4 B742 ramereth/irc.freenode.net signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Lance Albertson
blems/concerns/issues with Ciaran's attitude/actions, please comment on bug #114944. (this bug is only open to Gentoo developers). Its better if you say it yourself in this bug rather than letting other people quoting what you say. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrast

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

2006-02-28 Thread Lance Albertson
Lance Albertson wrote: > I should note that if are a Gentoo Developer and have > problems/concerns/issues with Ciaran's attitude/actions, please comment > on bug #114944. (this bug is only open to Gentoo developers). Its better > if you say it yourself in this bug rather than let

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Roles v2

2006-03-02 Thread Lance Albertson
of neatness, it shouldn't be waving red flags. Yes, its probably something that should be fixed, but it shouldn't be a critical one just because the tool is broken and can't handle the weirdness. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Roles v2

2006-03-02 Thread Lance Albertson
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:09:28 +0100 Simon Stelling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > | > On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 11:35:34 -0600 Lance Albertson > | > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | > | QA shouldn't have to de

[gentoo-dev] IMPORTANT: OSL outage

2006-03-13 Thread Lance Albertson
, while others are still MIA. Please be patient as they work on resolving the issue. I believe CVS should be working now and the tree should be updating. Please let me know if that is not the case. Cheers- -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager -

Re: [gentoo-dev] IMPORTANT: OSL outage

2006-03-13 Thread Lance Albertson
Lance Albertson wrote: > It appears that the OSL had some kind of a power issue (which > unfortunately included having some issues with the generator). They are > still working on bringing machines back up, but anything thats tied to > the database server is not working (bugs/forums/

Re: [gentoo-dev] adding a code of conduct

2006-04-03 Thread Lance Albertson
o I have problems with your statement regarding infra having no accountability. I believe all devs have the most confidence in the council since it was fairly voted upon by everyone. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <ht

Re: [gentoo-dev] LWE/Boston 2006 summary

2006-04-07 Thread Lance Albertson
e last LWE I went to. Its an OO2 drawing file. Edit to your liking (I took out my real numbers). [1] http://dev.gentoo.org/~ramereth/misc/gentoo-buscard2.odg -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/

Re: [gentoo-dev] LWE/Boston 2006 summary

2006-04-07 Thread Lance Albertson
Greg KH wrote: > On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 10:52:38PM -0500, Lance Albertson wrote: >> Mike Frysinger wrote: >>> On Friday 07 April 2006 19:39, Roy Marples wrote: >>>>> ... some just want a generic Gentoo business card and the >>>>> ones we had were

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 'Images' without gcc/portage?

2006-04-15 Thread Lance Albertson
[1]. I'm not sure if that's exactly what you're looking for, but its a really nice lightweight way of creating a gentoo-like system w/o the things you described above. Take a look and give it a shot :) [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/gnap.xml -- Lance Albertson

Re: [gentoo-dev] OSCON booth?

2006-04-20 Thread Lance Albertson
ing for work, but I'm sure I can squeeze in some booth time. Add me on the list of folks to keep in contact for this. Cheers- -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo: State of the Union + suggestion for global dev conference (at bottom, if you want to skip)

2006-04-29 Thread Lance Albertson
rovide a developer restricted rsync module on the test box so that they can actually try using their systems on there. Anyways, I'd just thought I'd give my input since its going to need to go through us eventually :). If people like the idea of having a SoC project for this, let me

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Signing everything, for fun and for profit

2006-05-19 Thread Lance Albertson
gave the anal people the ability to at least have some form of validity. It is one of the options I know of currently. Cheers- -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0423

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 49 - take 2

2006-05-22 Thread Lance Albertson
ou who are constantly bring up these non-technical topics thus pushing the issue into oblivion. Cheers- -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5A

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 49 - take 2

2006-05-25 Thread Lance Albertson
he Infrastructure Team should be affiliated > with the decision :). Heh, and people wonder how cabal rumors are started :-) I have to agree with this. The only thing infra should be involved with is how it might affect distribution to our users and/or hosting of stuff. We just make stuff go, you guys

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Gentoo Devmanual

2006-05-25 Thread Lance Albertson
r" sounds a bit meagre, having his name listed > there first, forever, is probably enough. Make sure you use tags so you can't miss it either. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramere

Re: [gentoo-dev] Summer of Code students and Planet Gentoo

2006-05-28 Thread Lance Albertson
coming Gentoo devs themselves... just in a very long drawn out recruitment process. :-) -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5AB1 4D07 416F A15D 27F4 B74

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Lance Albertson
gh on questions. Ignoring them will only make the project less credible. I do not support such tactics on infra if this is certainly the case. Cheers- -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-08 Thread Lance Albertson
ore all the points in it and just go with this without consulting the group first. If you can't sort out the issues that have been brought out here, I'm afraid I'm going to have to decline my support on infra hardware for this specific project (but not the other overlays so people d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise thread -- a try of clarification

2006-06-08 Thread Lance Albertson
project that seemed to be ignoring the issues at hand and I wasn't going to support the project on infra if they continued to be like that. Thanks for answering most of those questions. I'll let the developer community decide if they like them or not :-). -- Lance Albertson <[EM

Re: [gentoo-dev] What is "official"?

2006-06-09 Thread Lance Albertson
at most people don't have a problem with it, then it should ok to assume that its 'more' official. Now if its discussed and several people point out issues with a project, and the project either denies or ignores the issues that are brought up, then I would question its officia

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise thread -- a try of clarification

2006-06-09 Thread Lance Albertson
s and get them into the official rotation Actually, the only rotation you can get on is a community one (which minimizes the amount of users). All the servers under rsync.g.o are strictly controlled by infra. So nice try ... -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | O

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herds suck, fix them

2006-06-14 Thread Lance Albertson
Alec Warner wrote: > So apparently they suck, anyone have a new shiny idea on how to group > packages and maintaining developers? I suggest we create a murder of developers! Then we can be cool and not suck! :-) /me goes back into lurking mode -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [gentoo-dev] Herds suck, fix them

2006-06-15 Thread Lance Albertson
middle of the nite ? > -mike Wouldn't you be afraid if I walked up to you in the middle of the night? :-) -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0423 92F

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: June Council meeting summary + log

2006-06-17 Thread Lance Albertson
Mike Frysinger wrote: > i clearly suck at dates That's what Jeff said after your date with him. Said goats were better than you! :-) -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> K

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla usage by gentoo-java's doing migration work

2006-06-23 Thread Lance Albertson
ow I'll just disappear for the weekend, don't flame too much in my > | absence ... > > That would also be a good start. Indeed. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bugzilla usage by gentoo-java's doing migration work

2006-06-24 Thread Lance Albertson
eks? This all could have been avoided if you had written out an RFC and asked for comments on it *before hand*. Don't you agree? And please please please ... Keep your responses to a technical level and don't bring in personal issues. I have tried to keep my reply with that in mind. If you h

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-dev-announce list

2006-06-24 Thread Lance Albertson
ement-list (or make our developers/users). Our -announce list certainly has the historical presence where the most of our user-base would see something. I guess if this isn't the case, then I don't see a problem with the new list. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructu

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-dev-announce list

2006-06-24 Thread Lance Albertson
Marius Mauch wrote: > On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 22:30:31 -0500 > Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> >>> I propose that all need-to-know announcements and decisions be >>> posted to a separate, moderated (or restri

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-dev-announce list

2006-06-26 Thread Lance Albertson
start abusing it, then we'll vote them off the island :) -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5AB1 4D07 416F A15D 27F4 B742 ramereth/irc.freenode.net signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: GPL and Source code providing

2006-07-05 Thread Lance Albertson
might as well abuse it. A lot of the stuff that's currently in the purgatory area also includes sources for stuff we didn't make (upstream sources, etc). If you can separate those files from Gentoo specific files, then it would be much easier to manag (from an admin point of view). Its not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: GPL and Source code providing

2006-07-05 Thread Lance Albertson
hiving the master mirror files (including purgatory stuff) twice a week so that aspect is already done. But as I said earlier, I don't want this machine to become a publically accessible machine. That wasn't my intention when I set it up. I do have some options at this location if we ne

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: GPL and Source code providing

2006-07-05 Thread Lance Albertson
es unless the demand is there. > Suggest others are given time to weigh in on this rather then > restating that you don't think there is demand for it. > > Nobody yays it, hey, folks have spoken and y'all go with the same > non public backup. I agree. I'm not shutting i

[gentoo-dev] IMPORTANT: bugs performance issues

2006-07-05 Thread Lance Albertson
or helping us :). Thanks- [1] http://www.gni.com/ -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5AB1 4D07 416F A15D 27F4 B742 ramereth/irc.freenode.net

Re: [gentoo-dev] viewcvs.gentoo.org

2006-07-19 Thread Lance Albertson
eally viewcv now) stuff. Enjoy :) -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5AB1 4D07 416F A15D 27F4 B742 ramereth/irc.freenode.net signature.

Re: [gentoo-dev] SpanKY's Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2007

2006-07-31 Thread Lance Albertson
nd help make Gentoo better for all. Cheers- -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5AB1 4D07 416F A15D 27F4 B742 ramereth/irc.freenode.net signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise resumed again (was Resignation)

2006-08-02 Thread Lance Albertson
in a technical debate. No matter what either of you two think is technically right, you're both right and both wrong. /me goes back to lurking -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5AB1 4D07 416F A15D 27F4 B742 ramereth/irc.freenode.net signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

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