Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Still here. (@Absurdor)

2025-02-23 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
juan wrote: Edward Murphy via agora-discussion [2025-02-17 21:10]: RadicalRose wrote: I activate myself. I push the boulder. […] This may have been ineffective in re-registering you (see CFJ 4100). I recommend announcing "I register", just in case. But RadicalRose wasn'

Re: DIS: Subgame Idea

2025-02-20 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 2/20/25 12:57 AM, secretsnail9 via agora-discussion wrote: A few issues i can think of: coming up with 100 events could be hard, and To be clear, it's 100 (or however many) samples from the set of events. We don't need that much more than 24 events in total to get a decent varie

Re: DIS: Subgame Idea

2025-02-19 Thread secretsnail9 via agora-discussion
On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 6:24 AM Mischief via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > I know the tournament hasn't started yet, but I had an idea already: > Agoran > Bingo. > > Quick summary of bingo in case it's not a thing in other coun

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposition 9214

2025-02-18 Thread Matt Smyth via agora-discussion
--- > 9214~ Mischief1.0 Stone Badgers I vote PRESENT On Tue, 18 Feb 2025, 21:01 Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-business, < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Mon, 2025-02-17 at

Re: DIS: Subgame Idea

2025-02-18 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Mischief via agora-discussion [2025-02-18 07:23]: > I know the tournament hasn't started yet, but I had an idea already: Agoran > Bingo. I love it. It's perfect for my skill set: reading messages, keeping records, and doing nothing. -- juan

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Still here. (@Absurdor)

2025-02-18 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Edward Murphy via agora-discussion [2025-02-17 21:10]: > RadicalRose wrote: > > > I activate myself. I push the boulder. > > > […] > > This may have been ineffective in re-registering you (see CFJ 4100). I > recommend announcing "I register", just in ca

DIS: Subgame Idea

2025-02-18 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
I know the tournament hasn't started yet, but I had an idea already: Agoran Bingo. Quick summary of bingo in case it's not a thing in other countries: players have 5x5 boards; the centermost square is "free" (automatically counts). The remaining 24 symbols vary from board to board, both in

DIS: Re: BUS: Still here. (@Absurdor)

2025-02-17 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
RadicalRose wrote: I activate myself. I push the boulder. -- RadicalRose Hat: knitted cap This may have been ineffective in re-registering you (see CFJ 4100). I recommend announcing "I register", just in case. -- [ANSC H:GE V:G B:0]

DIS: Re: BUS: Deactivations

2025-02-17 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 2/17/25 5:43 PM, Matt Smyth via agora-business wrote: Does this mean my lily stamp is rare, now? Or is that not how it works xp Three things going on here... 1) players can be active or inactive. The difference is mainly that inactive players can be deregistered after 60 days (without 3

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Registrar) Deactivations

2025-02-17 Thread Matt Smyth via agora-discussion
Does this mean my lily stamp is rare, now? Or is that not how it works xp -- juniper On Tue, 18 Feb 2025, 08:45 secretsnail9 via agora-business, < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 7:26 PM secretsnail9 via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoran

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Absurdor) Slippery Slopes

2025-02-16 Thread Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion
I push the boulder whilst sleepwalking —— Ben From: agora-business on behalf of Kiako via agora-business Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2025 9:52:40 PM To: agora-busin...@agoranomic.org Cc: Kiako Subject: BUS: (@Absurdor) Slippery Slopes I push the boulder

DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Resolution of Proposals 9211-9213

2025-02-16 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 2/16/25 20:01, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote: > PROPOSAL 9211 (De-Convoluting Mooting v1.1) > AUTHOR: Kate > CLASS: ORDINARY > FOR (8): 4st, Janet^, Kate%, Mischief^, Murphy^, ais523%, juan%, kiako$ > AGAINST (0): > PRESENT (1): snail^ > BALLOTS: 9 > AI (F/A): 40

DIS: Arbitorial Call for Interested Judges

2025-02-14 Thread Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
In order to avoid bias (or the appearance of bias), I usually attempt to assign judicial cases to people who were not involved in the circumstances under investigation and have not become significantly invested in any following discussion. Recently, this has been challenging because there are rela

DIS: Re: BUS: Inactive is inactive, lets be active!

2025-02-13 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 11:59 AM Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 2/13/25 14:47, Gaelan Steele via agora-business wrote: > >> On Feb 13, 2025, at 7:40 PM, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-business > >> wrote: > >> On Thu, 2025-02-13 at 19:38 +, Ga

DIS: Re: BUS: Inactive is inactive, lets be active!

2025-02-11 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Fri, 2025-02-07 at 19:25 -0600, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > This is a call to action instead of inaction. I think it might be time for > a revival of sorts, given the lack of gameplay right now, and a recent > burst of interest. I will be in support of any proposals

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pushing

2025-02-11 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Mischief via agora-discussion [2025-02-07 18:44]: > On 2/6/25 8:20 AM, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > > > That's why I created a civic duty rewarding scheme for deactivations > > that no one seemed to notice. > > For those of us drawing a blank here, coul

Re: DIS: Ping

2025-02-09 Thread Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
On Sun, 2025-02-09 at 12:09 -0800, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: > Kate wrote: > > > Have I fixed my email? > > I don't know, have you? > Apparently so! ~qenya

Re: DIS: Ping

2025-02-09 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
Kate wrote: Have I fixed my email? I don't know, have you? -- [ANSC H:GE V:G B:0]

DIS: Ping

2025-02-09 Thread Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
Have I fixed my email? ~qenya

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Inactive is inactive, lets be active!

2025-02-09 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Sun, 2025-02-09 at 20:58 +0800, Finley W. via agora-discussion wrote: > I object to my deactivation and push the boulder. (Salute) You sent that to agora-discussion; it won't do anything unless you send it to agora-business. -- ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: Inactive is inactive, lets be active!

2025-02-09 Thread Finley W. via agora-discussion
I object to my deactivation and push the boulder. (Salute) On Sat, Feb 8, 2025, 9:26 AM secretsnail9 via agora-business, < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > This is a call to action instead of inaction. I think it might be time for > a revival of sorts, given the lack of gamepl

DIS: Re: BUS: Inactive is inactive, lets be active!

2025-02-07 Thread Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion
I believe I have pushed the boulder as well as claimed the Veblen. Also I own the Veblen and it has infinite points and is thus no longer pointless. —— Ben From: agora-business on behalf of secretsnail9 via agora-business Sent: Friday, February 7, 2025 8:25

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pushing

2025-02-07 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 2/6/25 8:20 AM, juan via agora-discussion wrote: That's why I created a civic duty rewarding scheme for deactivations that no one seemed to notice. For those of us drawing a blank here, could you remind us? -- Mischief Collector, Illuminator, Prime Minister Hat: steampunk hat Vit

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9211-9214

2025-02-07 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Fri, 2025-02-07 at 11:08 -0800, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > I vote FOR on 9211 > I vote FOR on 9212 > I vote FOR on 9213 > I vote FOR on 9214 Despite the thread subject, I don't think 9214 was actually distributed? -- ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: Pushing (@Absurdor)

2025-02-06 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Matt Smyth via agora-business [2025-02-06 07:03]: > […] noting that I'm somehow still active after a few months of > inactivity. As a fan of automation for boring tasks, I avoid doing things I don't MUST if they cannot be automated. That's why I created a civic duty

Re: DIS: Test message

2025-02-06 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Janet Cobb via agora-discussion [2025-02-05 17:21]: > Testing Discord RSS feed. Wow what. Is there a digest one? This is interesting. Also, I support any intents to declare Apathy. -- juan

Re: DIS: Re: (CFJ, @Arbitor) Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9211-9214

2025-02-06 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Thu, 2025-02-06 at 07:16 -0500, Mischief via agora-discussion wrote: > On 2/5/25 1:02 PM, ais523 via agora-business wrote: > > On Wed, 2025-02-05 at 17:44 +, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora- > > business wrote: > > > On Wed, 2025-02-05 at 02:16 -0600, secretsnail9 v

DIS: Re: (CFJ, @Arbitor) Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9211-9214

2025-02-06 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 2/5/25 1:02 PM, ais523 via agora-business wrote: On Wed, 2025-02-05 at 17:44 +, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora- business wrote: On Wed, 2025-02-05 at 02:16 -0600, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote: 9211~   qenya, Mischief 1.7   De-Convoluting Mooting v1.1 9212*   Mischief

DIS: Re: (CFJ, @Arbitor) Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9211-9214

2025-02-06 Thread Aris via agora-discussion
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 1:02 PM ais523 via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Wed, 2025-02-05 at 17:44 +, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora- > business wrote: > > On Wed, 2025-02-05 at 02:16 -0600, secretsnail9 via agora-official > > wrote: >

DIS: Test message

2025-02-05 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
Testing Discord RSS feed. This messages contains no game actions. -- Janet Cobb Assessor, Rulekeepor

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9211-9214

2025-02-05 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 2/5/25 12:53, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Wed, 2025-02-05 at 17:44 +, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora- > business wrote: >> On Wed, 2025-02-05 at 02:16 -0600, secretsnail9 via agora-official >> wrote: >>> 9211~   qenya, Mischief 1.7   De-Convol

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9211-9214

2025-02-05 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Wed, 2025-02-05 at 17:44 +, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora- business wrote: > On Wed, 2025-02-05 at 02:16 -0600, secretsnail9 via agora-official > wrote: > > 9211~   qenya, Mischief 1.7   De-Convoluting Mooting v1.1 > > 9212*   Mischief    3.0   I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Spending [attn. Spendor, Collector]

2025-02-03 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Mischief via agora-discussion [2025-01-31 21:13]: > On 1/31/25 9:10 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > Ah, oops. > > > > However, only 7 should have failed since I was transferred 4 spendies for > > that CFJ whose number I can't look up right now. &

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Metareport

2025-02-02 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
Kate wrote: On Sun, 2025-01-26 at 22:55 +, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora- discussion wrote: On Sun, 2025-01-26 at 22:16 +, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: Is the officeholder switch self-ratifying? At a quick glance over the ruleset, I couldn't see a reason why it would be

Re: DIS: Proto: Clean up birthdays

2025-02-02 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
Mischief wrote: On 1/26/25 4:52 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: a) eir Agoran Birthdate (if known), otherwise How do we legally resolve "if known"? Known to whom? Maybe this... change it to Official Agoran Birthday (that way it doesn't matter if it

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Spending [attn. Spendor, Collector]

2025-01-31 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 1/31/25 9:10 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: Ah, oops. However, only 7 should have failed since I was transferred 4 spendies for that CFJ whose number I can't look up right now. -sigh- This is why we need a Spendor. -- Mischief Collector, Illuminator, Prime Ministe

DIS: Re: BUS: Spending [attn. Spendor, Collector]

2025-01-31 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
Ah, oops. However, only 7 should have failed since I was transferred 4 spendies for that CFJ whose number I can't look up right now.

DIS: Re: BUS: Spending [attn. Spendor, Collector]

2025-01-31 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 1/31/25 6:10 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: Ten times, I pay a fee of two spendies to gain one radiance. Janet Cobb Nine of these failed https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg47444.html -- Mischief Collector, Illuminator, Prime Minister Hat: steampunk hat

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Metareport

2025-01-26 Thread Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
On Sun, 2025-01-26 at 22:55 +, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora- discussion wrote: > On Sun, 2025-01-26 at 22:16 +, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > > Is the officeholder switch self-ratifying? At a quick glance over the > > ruleset, I couldn't see a reason why it

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Metareport

2025-01-26 Thread Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
On Sun, 2025-01-26 at 22:16 +, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > Is the officeholder switch self-ratifying? At a quick glance over the > ruleset, I couldn't see a reason why it would be, but maybe I'm missing > something. (If it isn't, then of course an offici

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Metareport

2025-01-26 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Sun, 2025-01-26 at 14:05 -0800, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: > I wrote: > > > =Metareport= > > > Office   Holder[1]    Since Last Election Complexity > > --

Re: DIS: Proto: Clean up birthdays

2025-01-26 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 1/26/25 4:52 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote:     a) eir Agoran Birthdate (if known), otherwise How do we legally resolve "if known"? Known to whom? Maybe this... change it to Official Agoran Birthday (that way it doesn't matter if it's estim

DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Metareport

2025-01-26 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
I wrote: =Metareport= Office   Holder[1]    Since Last Election Complexity Geologist   *(vacant) 2025-01-15[2] 2024-09-15 [4]    1 Unofficial CoE: Geologist may have already b

DIS: Proto: Clean up birthdays

2025-01-26 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
alues null (default) and all dates since Agora was created. If a player's Agoran Birthdate is unknown, then e CAN, with Agoran consent, flip eir Estimated Agoran Birthdate to a specified valid past date. A player's Agoran Birthday is the anniversary of

DIS: Re: BUS: Boulder!

2025-01-23 Thread Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion
Well I push it towards —— Ben From: agora-business on behalf of Owen C via agora-business Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2025 11:12:28 PM To: agora-busin...@agoranomic.org Cc: Owen C Subject: BUS: Boulder! I push it backwards.

Re: DIS: Some thoughts about nomic contest gameplay

2025-01-20 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 1/19/25 9:06 PM, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: What about contests? The most successful Agoran contests historically seem to have been ones that work similar to proposal voting, in that you get a batch of things to do every week, and can focus on them at any point during the week

Re: DIS: Some thoughts about nomic contest gameplay

2025-01-20 Thread juan via agora-discussion
ais523 via agora-discussion [2025-01-20 02:06]: > I feel like the secret to making online nomic gameplay work is to have > something you can play in bursts, regardless of whether or not the > other players are doing anything – when you feel ready to make a move, > you can spend as much

DIS: Some thoughts about nomic contest gameplay

2025-01-19 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
the other players outcompeting you. Agora has historically done this pretty well with its core rules-and- proposals gameplay; in particular, achieving a win by scam or paradox is generally a case of carefully studying the ruleset to look for loopholes that might be exploitable, which is somethi

DIS: Re: (CFJ, @Arbitor) BUS: The AGAINT conundrum

2025-01-19 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
Janet wrote: On 1/17/25 13:47, ais523 via agora-business wrote: I call for judgement on the statement "If a player publicly quotes a distribution of an Agoran decision on whether to adopt a proposl, adding 'I vote AGAINT' immediately after the quote, this would generally be i

DIS: Re: BUS: The AGAINT conundrum

2025-01-19 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 1/17/25 1:47 PM, ais523 via agora-business wrote: (Note: the CFJ appears earlier in this message than these arguments do, so the judge should probably evaluate the CFJ as though the argument are not publicly known, although I'm interested in whether the mere fact of me posting

Re: DIS: (Draft) goblins and gnomes prereqs

2025-01-16 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 1/13/25 10:37 AM, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: So there there appears to be interest in goblins and gnomes, however, ais523 has a point: this would potentially increase their workload unreasonably. Could we modify the refs office to allow a similar system to cfjs wherein noted

DIS: Trading Places, Anyone?

2025-01-15 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
We've had a persistent lack of volunteers for Spendor. I'd be willing to take it on, but I don't want to commit to three reporting offices simultaneously. If someone is interested in Collector or Illuminator, though, we could potentially pull off a bit of musical chairs to make this work.

DIS: (Draft) goblins and gnomes prereqs

2025-01-13 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
So there there appears to be interest in goblins and gnomes, however, ais523 has a point: this would potentially increase their workload unreasonably. Could we modify the refs office to allow a similar system to cfjs wherein noted infractions can be investigated by a person of the refs choice? --

DIS: Re: BUS: (@absurdor) boulder i suppose

2025-01-11 Thread Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion
I push the boulder I object to each intent to declare apathy —— Ben From: agora-business on behalf of secretsnail9 via agora-business Sent: Friday, January 10, 2025 8:29:04 PM To: agora-busin...@agoranomic.org Cc: secretsnail9 Subject: BUS: (@absurdor

Re: DIS: Selling my rare stamp

2025-01-11 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Tue, 2025-01-07 at 13:38 -0800, Owen C via agora-discussion wrote: > I would like to sell my Automaticat rare stamp, along with a contract not > to mint any more for a period of time and therefore to ensure it remains a > rare stamp. Any takers? Although I've historically been

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9202-9210

2025-01-11 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Sat, 2025-01-11 at 13:15 -0500, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > When we've considered this before (e.g. for coins, before boatloads were > invented), people had written a bunch of contracts that would not handle > assets being destroyed out from under them (their

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9202-9210

2025-01-11 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/11/25 13:41, Mischief via agora-discussion wrote: > On 1/11/25 1:15 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > >> When we've considered this before (e.g. for coins, before boatloads were >> invented), people had written a bunch of contracts that would not handle &g

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9202-9210

2025-01-11 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 1/11/25 1:15 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: When we've considered this before (e.g. for coins, before boatloads were invented), people had written a bunch of contracts that would not handle assets being destroyed out from under them (their internal state wouldn't m

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9202-9210

2025-01-11 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/11/25 13:13, Mischief via agora-discussion wrote: >> AGAINST. This will make it far more difficult to implement taxation if >> we ever decide that's something we're interested in. > Why? We already can't use wording like "every player who owns X" for

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9202-9210

2025-01-11 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 1/11/25 12:50 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: 9206~ Mischief1.0 Let Contracts Own Stamps AGAINST. This will make it far more difficult to implement taxation if we ever decide that's something we're interested in. Why? We already can't use word

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [CFJ] Ceci n'est pas mon message

2025-01-11 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/11/25 13:08, Mischief via agora-discussion wrote: > On 1/11/25 12:48 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > >> Hmm. I think I'd argue that, regardless, people who are doing that are >> not truly subscribed to the forum. For instance, if mail-archive went >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [CFJ] Ceci n'est pas mon message

2025-01-11 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 1/11/25 12:48 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: Hmm. I think I'd argue that, regardless, people who are doing that are not truly subscribed to the forum. For instance, if mail-archive went down but the lists themselves stayed up, I don't think we'd accept that the li

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [CFJ] Ceci n'est pas mon message

2025-01-11 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/11/25 12:46, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sat, 2025-01-11 at 12:44 -0500, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion > wrote: >> On 1/11/25 12:42, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote: >>> On Fri, 2025-01-10 at 00:47 +0000, ais523 via

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [CFJ] Ceci n'est pas mon message

2025-01-11 Thread Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
On Sat, 2025-01-11 at 12:44 -0500, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 1/11/25 12:42, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Fri, 2025-01-10 at 00:47 +, ais523 via agora-business wrote: > > > Gratuitous: I received a copy of this mess

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [CFJ] Ceci n'est pas mon message

2025-01-11 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/11/25 12:42, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote: > On Fri, 2025-01-10 at 00:47 +, ais523 via agora-business wrote: >> Gratuitous: I received a copy of this message with only four ">" >> characters (the relevant portion is quoted above), so it is

DIS: Re: BUS: [CFJ] Ceci n'est pas mon message

2025-01-11 Thread Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
On Fri, 2025-01-10 at 00:47 +, ais523 via agora-business wrote: > Gratuitous: I received a copy of this message with only four ">" > characters (the relevant portion is quoted above), so it is at least > possible for me to tell that the original had a line starting wit

DIS: Re: (@Referee) Ceci n'est pas mon message

2025-01-10 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Ah, i see. Also the No Faking wasn't related to spendies at all anyway, which is what I thought had happened. -- 4st putting jesters cap back on, it fell off while mobile -- Forwarded message - From: ais523 via agora-business Date: Fri, Jan 10, 2025, 2:34 PM Subject: Re

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [CFJ] Ceci n'est pas mon message

2025-01-10 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/10/25 12:33, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > Gratuitous: i see 6 >. And no one can prove otherwise. Therefore, take this > as an argument for IRRELEVANT: the transfer is specifying an ambiguous > number of spendies, and is therefor invalid. Is that a true statement? You

DIS: Re: BUS: [CFJ] Ceci n'est pas mon message

2025-01-10 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
ina Walshe-Grey via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > From x > >From x > >>From x > > I transfer to Janet a number of Spendies equal to the number of ">" > characters in this message. > > CFJ: "I possess 16 Spendies."

DIS: Test message

2025-01-09 Thread Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
ef139f68-d4c9-4c18-b408-575ea7a4dce7 From >From >>From >From x >From x >>From x I screwed up what I was trying to test the first time. Very sorry. I hope this will be the last one. I declare under penalty of No Faking that this message is not intended as part of any scam or exploit. ~qenya

DIS: Test message

2025-01-09 Thread Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
b0298f01-928c-4697-a3e4-ef011b6544d6 From >From >>From Pardon the spam, I'm trying to debug a thing. I declare under penalty of No Faking that this message is not intended as part of any scam or exploit. ~qenya

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Gnomes AND Goblins

2025-01-08 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 1/8/25 11:14 AM, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: In case this comes back... - Whenever a player wins the game, grant each Angel player 2 gnomes. "Whenever one or more players win the game..." Otherwise, a single group win can give every Angel player the ability to win at

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Gnomes AND Goblins

2025-01-08 Thread Owen C via agora-discussion
Understood, thanks. On Wed, Jan 8, 2025, 12:48 PM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 1/8/25 15:44, Owen C via agora-business wrote: > > I vote FOR both proposals here. > > > You can't vote on these yet; they have to be &q

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Gnomes AND Goblins

2025-01-08 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/8/25 15:44, Owen C via agora-business wrote: > I vote FOR both proposals here. You can't vote on these yet; they have to be "distributed" by the Promotor first. See [0] for an example. [0] https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-official/2024-De

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Gnomes AND Goblins

2025-01-08 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/8/25 11:14, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > I am generally proposing an informal classification of rules, one that is > clearly marked "DANGER", so that players may be aware that playing that > subgame may come at a cost. With no risk, there is no reward. > &g

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Gnomes AND Goblins

2025-01-08 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Wed, 2025-01-08 at 08:14 -0800, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > - Once per player per week by announcement, a feral goblin can be > transferred to anything so long as that goblin becomes loyal by doing so. > - Once per player per week by announcement, a goblin owned by the

DIS: Re: BUS: Goblins

2025-01-08 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 1/8/25 1:39 AM, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: Infractions of this rule are class 4. The referee is ENCOURAGED to specify the maximum number of blots for infractions related to goblins. How does one violate this rule? An incorrect Goblin Rebellion announcement just doesn'

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2025-01-07 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 1/7/25 4:34 PM, Owen C via agora-business wrote: I transfer 1 Jackrabbit stamp to myself from the L&FD for 5 spendies I transfer 1 Mercury stamp to myself from the L&FD for 6 spendies Janet grabbed the last Jackrabbit stamp, so the first action fails. That in turn caused th

DIS: Selling my rare stamp

2025-01-07 Thread Owen C via agora-discussion
I would like to sell my Automaticat rare stamp, along with a contract not to mint any more for a period of time and therefore to ensure it remains a rare stamp. Any takers?

DIS: Re: OFF: [Rulekeepor] Short Logical Ruleset - 5 Jan 2024

2025-01-05 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/5/25 18:18, Janet Cobb via agora-official wrote: > Date of this ruleset: 5 Jan 2024 Correction: This should be 2025. As this doesn't self-ratify, I don't see any point in publishing a revision. I will do my best to not make this mistake in the future. Same for the FLR. -

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2025-01-05 Thread Owen C via agora-discussion
I have no relation to them whatsoever. On Sun, Jan 5, 2025, 12:54 PM Edward Murphy via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Automaticat wrote: > > > I register as Automaticat, give myself a welcome package, and push the > > boulder. > > W

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2025-01-05 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
Automaticat wrote: I register as Automaticat, give myself a welcome package, and push the boulder. Welcome! Are you the player previously nicknamed "o" (registered from 2016-2018 and 2019-2020), or is their e-mail address just somewhat similar? -- [ANSC H:GE V:G B:0]

Re: DIS: Proto Contest: Backroom Casino

2025-01-05 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
Mischief wrote:     1) the number of tickets held by each entity holding one or    more tickets (however, e NEED NOT list any such entities    who, as of the time the spin is resolved, are not    players); "the number of tickets held by each play

DIS: Re: Fwd: BUS: (@Arbitor) ???

2025-01-02 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Mischief via agora-business [2025-01-02 06:56]: > > From: 4st nomic via agora-business > > Date: Tue, Dec 31, 2024, 12:15 PM > > Subject: BUS: (@absurdor) ??? > > To: Agora Business > > Cc: 4st nomic <4st.no...@gmail.com> > > > > Unless it

Re: DIS: Proto Contest: Backroom Casino

2025-01-02 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 1/2/25 6:59 AM, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: I'm worried that that the existence of a simple random game would have a chilling effect on the creation of more skill-based games; players have to choose where to spend their candles, and if a game with no skill exists, then players

Re: DIS: Re: Fwd: BUS: ???

2025-01-02 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 1/2/25 6:48 AM, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote: Proto-proto-proposal: Officers CAN (and perhaps SHALL) issue Humiliating Public Reminders when players violate SHOULDs in their Administrative Regulations... CAN isn't necessary unless HPRs are meant to have a spe

Re: DIS: Proto Contest: Backroom Casino

2025-01-02 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Wed, 2025-01-01 at 21:19 -0500, Mischief via agora-discussion wrote: > On 1/1/25 9:04 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > > I mean, that's certainly better, but I guess I was imagining some form > > of skill being required. These were pitched as minigames o

DIS: Re: I haven't been doing my job, and no one else has either

2025-01-02 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 1/2/25 1:39 AM, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: "At the beginning of each quarter, all crystals whose identity is not equal to the ID of any rule in the current ruleset has its size increased by 3." Instead of "...all crystals... has..." maybe "...any crysta

Re: DIS: Re: Fwd: BUS: (@absurdor) ???

2025-01-02 Thread Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
On Wed, 2025-01-01 at 21:02 -0500, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > In any event, there's very clear game custom about this. [0] shows 83 > appearances of "quoted message" (as opposed to simply saying "this > message" to refer to a quoted message), and pi

Re: DIS: Proto Contest: Backroom Casino

2025-01-01 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 1/1/25 9:04 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: I mean, that's certainly better, but I guess I was imagining some form of skill being required. These were pitched as minigames or small tournaments. I'll think about it, I guess (and it's moot if nobody else would object

Re: DIS: Proto Contest: Backroom Casino

2025-01-01 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 12/31/24 18:12, Mischief via agora-discussion wrote: > On 12/31/24 5:55 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > >> I think I would object to this on principle. My expectation was that >> contests would be, well, contests, rather than arbitrage on the spendy >> -

Re: DIS: Re: Fwd: BUS: (@absurdor) ???

2025-01-01 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 12/31/24 21:09, Mischief via agora-discussion wrote: > On 12/31/24 6:41 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: > >> Gratuitous: >> >> This is trivially FALSE. "in this message" means the message in which >> the CFJ was called. > Ha, initially I did

DIS: Re: Fwd: BUS: (@absurdor) ???

2024-12-31 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 12/31/24 6:41 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: Gratuitous: This is trivially FALSE. "in this message" means the message in which the CFJ was called. Ha, initially I didn't even catch that the first sentence is a counterargument to the second. The point being,

DIS: Re: Fwd: BUS: (@absurdor) ???

2024-12-31 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 12/31/24 6:41 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: Gratuitous: "in this message" means the message in which the CFJ was called. This argument is not one I agree with. -- Mischief Collector, Illuminator, Prime Minister Hat: steampunk hat Vitality: alive Bang holdings: 2

Re: DIS: Proto Contest: Backroom Casino

2024-12-31 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 12/31/24 5:55 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: I think I would object to this on principle. My expectation was that contests would be, well, contests, rather than arbitrage on the spendy -> candle conversion rate. Even with the double risk element (risk that another particip

Re: DIS: Proto Contest: Backroom Casino

2024-12-31 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 12/31/24 17:53, Mischief via agora-discussion wrote: > Quick summary: players are better off -- in expectation, at least -- > gambling their excess spendies here than converting them directly to > radiance, but there is also risk involved. Also, the Veblen might even > affect

DIS: Proto Contest: Backroom Casino

2024-12-31 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
I posted a prior version of this to Discord earlier this month for some initial feedback, but I wanted to give folks another chance to weigh in. Because the amendment process is (deliberately) a bit cumbersome and making it into a contest will require acting without 2 objections, I'd rather

DIS: Re: BUS: (@absurdor) ???

2024-12-31 Thread Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion
I’ll just push the boulder normally. The previous sentence is a game action intended to push the boulder —— Ben From: agora-business on behalf of 4st nomic via agora-business Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2024 3:15:08 PM To: Agora Business Cc: 4st nomic <4st

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4100 reassigned to Murphy

2024-12-29 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
ais523 wrote: On Sat, 2024-12-28 at 21:01 -0800, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: ais523 wrote: So the message itself is sufficient indication of the person's intentions, as far as I can tell. I don't think it's reasonable to assume that someone might have intenti

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4100 reassigned to Murphy

2024-12-29 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
ais523 wrote: On Sat, 2024-12-28 at 21:01 -0800, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: ais523 wrote: (It is also worth noting that "an experienced player aiming for some level of ambiguity" would also cause a registration: unambiguously intending to ambiguously register still de

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