J B wrote:
> Someone wrote:
> > But does it seem overblown when somebody is freaked out about something and
> > articulates it clearly and why, and wonders: "Well do we want this kind of
> > atmosphere for this thing?" Is that a valid question, yeah it is. Should we
> > talk about without shoutin
Nico Hailey wrote:
>
> I donno. Kinda had a point about geek-on-geek relationships.
> When one of your first questions to a prospective mate is
> "You're not, an, um, erm, /emacs/ user, are?"
> it is sort of worrisome. And long nights of MUTT vs MH as MUA
> is good fun. Also the fights if someone
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Kristina wrote:
> I don't think it's so much that it's "sexist" to discuss the quality of
> body parts. What can be offensive or at least hurtful is the underlying
> assumption that a person is of a certain worth (or not!) because of (and
> only because of) the quality of t
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Steve Kudlak wrote:
> So yeah it happens but it is a limited thing. But it is curious in the other
> direction, Gyms make a lot of money on guys thinking if they get buff, they'll
> "get a girlfriend" and male writers will often cross map things assuming "this
> is how I look
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, J B wrote:
> Frankly, I find talk about the quality of some dude's butt just as
> offensive as the talk about some woman's breasts.
>
>
> What about a "person makes them cute if it is not their body and bearing
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Ingrid Schupbach wrote:
> Ok, after this last piece of brilliance, I think anyone taking the time to
> respond to Brendan seriously is wasting his or her breath.
I might remind those who haven't done so already:
man procmail
If anyone wants a copy of my .procmailrc becaus
But does it seem overblown when somebody is freaked out about something and
articulates it clearly and why, and wonders: "Well do we want this kind of
atmosphere for this thing?" Is that a valid question, yeah it is. Should we
talk about without shouting...Well at least I think so. Am I bemuse
Kristena Wrote
Plus, we don't really have control over our bodies beyond a certain
point so seeing people judged on the basis of ONLY their physical beauty or
lack thereof makes people believe that they, as people, have worth based
solely on that beauty. If you *do* have that beauty, then
> > Heehee... You just described a good chunk of our relationship. as
> > a result, we each have our own copies of various techie books.
[snip]
> oohh. that is a bad one. We have a similar issue, I have a 17"
> newish happy iiyama monitor. He has a 14" *vga* (that's 9, count
[snip]
If possible
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 17:06:08 -0700, Nico Hailey wrote:
>> new hardware... It's a sad fact of life that a given flatscreen
>> can only be used by one person at a given time:
>oohh. that is a bad one. We have a similar issue, I have a 17"
>newish happy iiyama monitor. He has a 14" *vga* (that's 9,
some random thoughts about this article:
> - Robs assertion that geeks need a partner who is a supporter also
> offended many people.
this point has really stuck with me. i think in many cases it can be
wrong, but more importantly i think this point sums up the problem with
this
article. it
On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 05:17:02PM -0600, Ian Hall-Beyer wrote:
> Heehee... You just described a good chunk of our relationship. as
> a result, we each have our own copies of various techie books.
> The other big quarrel is shortly after the acquisition of cool
> new hardware... It's a sad fact
You know, parts of this article had some rather good advice... "There's More
To Life Then Computing" in particular, but the article has a flaw in the opening where
it is essentially recommending the 1950's self-sacrificing, meek, and walk-upon
version of the wife. IMHO, if someone is lo
>>I donno. Kinda had a point about geek-on-geek relationships.
>Heehee... You just described a good chunk of our relationship. as a
>result, we each have our own copies of various techie books. The other big
>quarrel is
>shortly after the acquisition of cool new hardware...
*snort* this is hyste
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 15:36:45 -0700, Nico Hailey wrote:
>I donno. Kinda had a point about geek-on-geek relationships.
>When one of your first questions to a prospective mate is
>"You're not, an, um, erm, /emacs/ user, are?"
>it is sort of worrisome. And long nights of MUTT vs MH as MU
>is good fun
On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 04:48:47PM -0400, Rikki McGinty wrote:
> oh my god. i just read Rob's ridiculous "article" and am truly nauseous.
> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/10/23/202252&mode=thread
I donno. Kinda had a point about geek-on-geek relationships.
When one of your first questions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rikki McGinty wrote:
>
> oh my god. i just read Rob's ridiculous "article" and am truly nauseous.
> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/10/23/202252&mode=thread
> I don't know if I can even go to slashdot anymore.
Ok. Is this another example of things-that-turn-peopl
*** note
This is long. This is really long. most of this is response
to brenden, don't publically so that no one can claim that I flamed him to
a crisp in private. There are a few bits that I want to post for public
thought, but I'm going to edit them out
Rikki McGinty wrote:
oh my god. i just read Rob's ridiculous "article"
and am truly nauseous.
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/10/23/202252&mode=thread
it is the most condescending, egomaniacal, offensive, ignorant piece
of crap
i've seen in a lng time. Apparently, attractive women are
TeknoDragon wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Kristina wrote:
>
> > butt. Boobs and butt don't really last all that long. A friendly smile,
> > sense of humor, intelligence, loyalty, and respect do, but when we hear
> > people judged on a purely physical basis, it's like nothing else matters.
> >
Rikki McGinty wrote:
>
> oh my god. i just read Rob's ridiculous "article" and am truly nauseous.
> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/10/23/202252&mode=thread
> I don't know if I can even go to slashdot anymore.
Ok. Is this another example of things-that-turn-people-off?
And can we analy
> I don't know if I can even go to slashdot anymore.
The stupidest thing as that someone (clueless) said to be "but it's
catagorized under 'humour', it's funny". Catagorizing something unfunny
as "funny" does not make it funny.
If you want a real Linux news site, I recommend LinuxToday
(http://
I'm getting a bunch of messages bounced by the list with the subject
line "Re: [issues] Screenshots" because someone used the word
"unsu*bscribe" (sans "*") in the body of the message.
If you responded to such a message and your response hasn't made it to
the list yet, try resending with a "*" s
> Roblimo posted an article on /. with advice for lonely guys about how to
> find a woman. This has drawn a variety of responses, some of them
> complaining about its attitude toward women. At first blush, it seems
> that most of those comments were written by men. I thought I'd ask some
> wome
Hi, Steve,
> I mean I don't know. I don't see how these mysterious things are going to
> destroy our civilization. I mean, hardly think so. Do I think people carry too
> far sometimes. Do I think people don't carry it to far enough ...Correct.
>
> What I am trying to say is that a moderate leve
oh my god. i just read Rob's ridiculous "article" and am truly nauseous.
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/10/23/202252&mode=thread
it is the most condescending, egomaniacal, offensive, ignorant piece of crap
i've seen in a lng time. Apparently, attractive women are fake and
stupid and do
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Kristina wrote:
> butt. Boobs and butt don't really last all that long. A friendly smile,
> sense of humor, intelligence, loyalty, and respect do, but when we hear
> people judged on a purely physical basis, it's like nothing else matters.
> "No boobs, no butt, no service
Roblimo posted an article on /. with advice for lonely guys about how to
find a woman. This has drawn a variety of responses, some of them
complaining about its attitude toward women. At first blush, it seems
that most of those comments were written by men. I thought I'd ask some
women what the
J B wrote:
> Frankly, I find talk about the quality of some dude's butt just as
> offensive as the talk about some woman's breasts. I don't bother. I might
> say someone is cute or good-looking, but in most cases I think the PERSON
> is cute. Their body really isn't a primary concern for me.
>
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Brendan/Coolian wrote:
> too. With my female friends, my feelings are "cerebral", nothing is a
> shared experience, just shared feelings about things. I have to find out
> everything about a woman before I know if she and I connect on all
> levels. Because I have to anal
Brendan/Coolian wrote:
> >or do you think that forcing porn down people's throats is a good
> >thing? yes... let's desencitize that 74 year old lady trying to pick out a
> >nice desktop for the computer a young friend is setting up for her
>
> Who's saying any of that is happening. Grow some ski
Hi Karl! Hi Brendan!
On 10/24/99, 9:03:56 PM, TeknoDragon wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Brendan/Coolian wrote:
> > I apologize, but I'm not getting into a pissing contest with
[...]
> from this it looks like you are interested in a "pissing contest"
> and when did I say that? and who's ass am
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Brendan/Coolian wrote:
> Christ, if one more person didn't pick up on my attempts at riling up a few
> people, I was going to die...I'm trying to stir SOMETHING upBut All
maybe you could be the person to reveal some of your issues instead of
brow beating others into yo
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Brendan/Coolian wrote:
> I apologize, but I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you. I am
> stating what I think...If that makes me "stupid" then so be it. I doubt I
sure, but why do you think this? I've just explained how it's _not_
unrelated to the topic... even
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Brendan/Coolian wrote:
> >or do you think that forcing porn down people's throats is a good
> >thing? yes... let's desencitize that 74 year old lady trying to pick out a
> >nice desktop for the computer a young friend is setting up for her (a
> >scenario I know is happening).
> I apologize, but I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you. I am
> stating what I think...If that makes me "stupid" then so be it. I doubt I
> would take advice from someone named "Teknodragon". My name's Brendan,
> talk to me when playtime is over.
Wasn't it you that said in another m
TeknoDragon wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, Brendan/Coolian wrote:
>
> > >Perhaps. But after you hear "women can't do xx" (where xx is usually
> >
> >
> > This is called "transference". Who the hell has said anything about women
> > not being able to do things? We're talking about themes, and s
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, J B wrote:
> What about a "person makes them cute if it is not their body and bearing?
> It is hard to see personaltiy from across the room...(as someone said
> previously). Why is it sexist for a man to say that a woman has a nice body
> or a woman to say that a man has
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Taylor wrote:
>
> > Admit it: men aren't the only ones who objectify. Almost every
> > woman I know (myself included) is more than willing to talk about
> > the finer points of Mel G.'s rear, or movies where you get the
> > absolute best exposure of David D.'s hiney.
Frankly, I find talk about the quality of some dude's butt just as
offensive as the talk about some woman's breasts. I don't bother. I might
say someone is cute or good-looking, but in most cases I think the PERSON
is cute. Their body really isn't a primary concern for me.
---
Hi folks.
Just a quick reminder about the posting guidelines for the LinuxChix
lists:
1) Be polite
2) Be helpful
Please, if you're going to flame, rant, take personal-potshots, etc.,
use the "count to 10 before hitting [send]" rule. And then just cancel
the message. Debates are fine, heated d
On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Brendan/Coolian wrote:
>
> I apologize, but I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you. I am
> stating what I think...If that makes me "stupid" then so be it. I doubt I
> would take advice from someone named "Teknodragon". My name's Brendan,
> talk to me when pla
> Alright! Grab it and go!
> Christ, if one more person didn't pick up on my attempts at riling up a few
> people, I was going to die...I'm trying to stir SOMETHING upBut All
> I've gotten are a few poor attempts at "I can show how wonderfully perfect
> I am"
Do me a huge favour and stop
Brendan/Coolian wrote:
>
> >Do you honestly think that sexism doesn't exist? Or that it does but it
> >is not a problem worth talking about? You have not stated this sentiment
> >in so many words, but you do seem to be expressing it. Is this intended?
Ok. I'm going to say all this again.
>
> > Admit it: men aren't the only ones who objectify. Almost every
> > woman I know (myself included) is more than willing to talk about
> > the finer points of Mel G.'s rear, or movies where you get the
> > absolute best exposure of David D.'s hiney. We aren't delicate
> > little flowers, and I
> > Haven't seen any.
>
>I posted links. Short of going over to your place, booting up your
>computer and opening the damn things myself, I'm not sure how much more
>you want me to do.
Please do. While you're at it, could you possibly try to configure the
network on COL for me? It's a real bi
>Do you honestly think that sexism doesn't exist? Or that it does but it
>is not a problem worth talking about? You have not stated this sentiment
>in so many words, but you do seem to be expressing it. Is this intended?
Wow, somebody who actually wants to know?
Amazing. Clearly-thought-out
Brendan/Coolian wrote:
> Why you think I'm some unthinking male "beast", I
> can not say.
Try comments like the next one, as one of the reasons you
appear to come across as trolling and seeking trouble:
> But you obviously have some issues, and need to work them
> out, rather than kissing mor
>Funny. Seems to me that the 'issues' list is built to "discuss the larger
>abstract theoretical/philosophical issues related to Linux, the Open Source
>Movement, Women & Technology, etc"
>
>I do have actual problems to talk about. Salinity levels in the most arable
>land in Australia threatening
> > God, how I wish a few of you people had ACTUAL problems to Talk about...
>
>Nice how you made it into an "us" (which would be you) vs. "them" (the
>women on this list) issue, isn't it?
Just speaking to the authors, not the majority. There wasn't anything
meant to offend the majority of bro
> >For the record, no one seems to understand any sort of humor. We all
> >seem to be so locked into Politically Correct mode...
>
>Or, more likely, your attempts at humor are just really bad.
I'm definitely not ruling that out.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
>Well since you seem to have a lot of couth...
Oh fun, fun, fun...Not that enjoy being the object of such annoying,
immature angst, but I'm trying to get through all of the emails proclaiming
the author as the most "together", the most sane...I find it so
funny. It's just life people, no rea
> > > Millions have problems with spontaneously mutating into dogs, deny it
> and
> > > you're just part of the cover-up, man!
> >
> > Would you like to offer some proof that 'millions are spontaneiously
> > mutating into dogs'?
>
>I think you missed that he's saying we're all bitches. ;)
>If
>ummm, can you think in more than one direction at once?
I apologize, but I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you. I am
stating what I think...If that makes me "stupid" then so be it. I doubt I
would take advice from someone named "Teknodragon". My name's Brendan,
talk to me when p
>or do you think that forcing porn down people's throats is a good
>thing? yes... let's desencitize that 74 year old lady trying to pick out a
>nice desktop for the computer a young friend is setting up for her (a
>scenario I know is happening)... sure one death from stroke (or at least
>a shocke
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