Re: [sword-devel] SWORD: OSIS transChange and non-Roman scripts?

2025-04-14 Thread David Haslam
wrote: > David Haslam dfh...@protonmail.com writes: > >> Hi Dom, >> >> I already had the latest versions of FreBDM1707 & UyCyr >> installed. >> I installed KtuVB after reading your reply. >> >> Both FreBDM1707 & KtuVB have a CSS. >>

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD: OSIS transChange and non-Roman scripts?

2025-04-14 Thread David Haslam
if v2.0 should have a CSS, or if it’s a typo? Still eager for the remaining module list (11-12 now, excluding UyCyr). Best regards, David Sent with [Proton Mail](https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G) secure email. On Monday, April 14th, 2025 at 7:21 AM, David Haslam wrote: > Hi Dom, &g

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD: OSIS transChange and non-Roman scripts?

2025-04-13 Thread David Haslam
ining 11 of the 14 from your search results. Thanks. Best regards, David Sent with [Proton Mail](https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G) secure email. On Sunday, April 13th, 2025 at 6:45 PM, domcox domini...@corbex.org wrote: > David Haslam dfh...@protonmail.com writes: > >> Thanks Peter

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD: OSIS transChange and non-Roman scripts?

2025-04-13 Thread David Haslam
ould specify CSS files for modules. Therefore, >> eBible.org doesn't have any modules that do, YET. >> >> >> On 4/13/25 03:13, David Haslam wrote: >> >> >> > >> > Thanks Peter, >> > >> > >> > >> > >>

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD: OSIS transChange and non-Roman scripts?

2025-04-13 Thread David Haslam
ns to enhance a module? If, as Peter wrote, I'm a decade behind, surely I can't be the only one who is? Best regards, David Sent with [Proton Mail](https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G) secure email. On Sunday, April 13th, 2025 at 6:45 PM, domcox domini...@corbex.org wrote: > David

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD: OSIS transChange and non-Roman scripts?

2025-04-13 Thread David Haslam
. > > Peter > > Peter > > Sent from [Outlook for iOS](https://aka.ms/o0ukef) > ------- > > From: sword-devel on behalf of David > Haslam > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2025 12:26 pm > To: sword-devel mailing list

[sword-devel] SWORD: OSIS transChange and non-Roman scripts?

2025-04-13 Thread David Haslam
As we're all aware, the SWORD engine renders in italics text enclosed with a transChange element. Yet not all Bible translations are in a script that supports italics! IIRC, it was once suggested that Chinese modules that use CJK ideograms might possibly be render such text using dotted underli

Re: [sword-devel] Novel use of the OSIS q element for quotation marks in the ESV_THE module

2025-04-12 Thread David Haslam
container can be “red”. > > osis2mod expects quotation markup to be natural. It knows when a new > element is found and knows when it is closed. It can easily generate an > sID/eID pair. > > There should be no special mention of the pattern for OSIS texts. > >>

Re: [sword-devel] Novel use of the OSIS q element for quotation marks in the ESV_THE module

2025-04-12 Thread David Haslam
inherited this q markup. I always thought it > originated with Crosswire before the Strongs were added. > > David IB > > On Fri, 11 Apr 2025, 18:44 David Haslam, wrote: > >> I only spotted the use of this novel idea for the first time today... >> >> The mile

[sword-devel] A reversible transform of an IMP file

2025-04-11 Thread David Haslam
Dear friends who enjoy analysing SWORD modules: Here's a useful transform to apply to the output of mod2imp. Replace all PCRE "(<[^/])" by "\r\n\t$1" (without the quotes) This inserts a new line and a single horizontal tab before each XML element in the text. It excludes all XML end elements su

[sword-devel] Novel use of the OSIS q element for quotation marks in the ESV_THE module

2025-04-11 Thread David Haslam
I only spotted the use of this novel idea for the first time today... The milestone version of the OSIS q element In the Tyndale House Edition of the ESV module ESV_THE the verses with speech are coded like this example in the OSIS: > $$$Genesis 29:7 > He > said, > > Behold, it is > still > hig

Re: [sword-devel] Endless looping

2025-04-02 Thread David Haslam
st v11n, of the known v11ns? I.e. > the one with the least mismatches. > > DM > >> On Apr 1, 2025, at 2:19 AM, David Haslam wrote: >> >> If osis2mod encounters a set of osisID that do not exist in any of the SWORD >> versifications - it appears to go into

[sword-devel] Encoded transliterations?

2025-04-01 Thread David Haslam
I think there may be a gap in our documentation... Are spaces permitted in the attribute values for [Encoded Transliterations](https://wiki.crosswire.org/OSIS_Bibles#Marking_encoded_transliterations)? The example given is xlit="Latn:b_raShit" Is that low line character an intentional replaceme

[sword-devel] Endless looping

2025-03-31 Thread David Haslam
If osis2mod encounters a set of osisID that do not exist in any of the SWORD versifications - it appears to go into an endless loop attempting to link each one to Rev.22.21 Wouldn’t it be preferable for it to fail with an error message? eg INVALID osisID - cannot continue! Best regards, David

Re: [sword-devel] Support for morph segmentation in front-ends?

2025-03-25 Thread David Haslam
don’t yet have a fully fledged example of one with suitable OSIS markup. David On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 20:30, Karl Kleinpaste <[k...@kleinpaste.org](mailto:On Tue, Mar 25, 2025 at 20:30, Karl Kleinpaste < wrote: > David Haslam wrote: > >> Might Xiphos be enhanced to implem

[sword-devel] Support for morph segmentation in front-ends?

2025-03-25 Thread David Haslam
Does any SWORD front-end app include support for this ? GlobalOptionFilter=OSISMorphSegmentation Might Xiphos be enhanced to implement this in future? The SWORD engine knows about it, yet AFAICT, it effects no change in displayed text. What it ought to do was once suggested by someone at STEP

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents

2025-03-23 Thread David Haslam
> 5. I managed to use instead of ¶, but it > seems that Xiphos does not render them (either for KJV) to indicate there is > a new paragraph here. Or am I missing something, is this not for a new > paragraph? Xiphos displays these OK in the KJV module (& others) in my Windows PC. Always has do

Re: [sword-devel] Module release: StatResGNT

2025-03-21 Thread David Haslam
Sent with [Proton Mail](https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G) secure email. On Friday, March 21st, 2025 at 9:59 PM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > On Friday, March 21st, 2025 at 4:12 PM, David Haslam > [](mailto:dfh...@protonmail.com) wrote: >> Please reread the wiki page on conf files. &

Re: [sword-devel] Module release: StatResGNT

2025-03-21 Thread David Haslam
gt; OSISLemma. And OSIS Lemmas only apply if the module has them. > > DM > >> On Mar 21, 2025, at 1:40 PM, David Haslam wrote: >> >> [DevTools:conf Files - CrossWire Bible >> Society](https://wiki.crosswire.org/DevTools:conf_Files#cite_note-17) >> >>

Re: [sword-devel] Module release: StatResGNT

2025-03-21 Thread David Haslam
[DevTools:conf Files - CrossWire Bible Society](https://wiki.crosswire.org/DevTools:conf_Files#cite_note-17) Best regards, David Sent with [Proton Mail](https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G) secure email. On Friday, March 21st, 2025 at 4:12 PM, David Haslam wrote: > Hi Karl, > > Plea

Re: [sword-devel] Module release: StatResGNT

2025-03-21 Thread David Haslam
Hi Karl, Please reread the wiki page on conf files. See note 6. David Sent from [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) for iOS On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 16:00, Karl Kleinpaste < [k...@kleinpaste.org](mailto:On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 16:00, Karl Kleinpaste < wrote: > On 3/21/25 05:43, dom...@c

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents

2025-03-21 Thread David Haslam
ter sequence. >>> >>> I’m saying if the filter does double duty for both presentation and >>> normalization of search requests, then both have to work well. >>> >>> That U+2019 is visually similar to U+0027 and an end user will use the >>> keyb

Re: [sword-devel] Module release: FreCrampon

2025-03-19 Thread David Haslam
. > Jonah 2:8: Quand mon âme défaillait en moi, > je me suis souvenu de Yahweh ; > et ma prière est parvenue jusqu'à vous, > à votre saint temple. Interesting that a majority of these are found in the same book! Best regards, David Sent with [Proton Mail](https://pr.tn/ref/S

Re: [sword-devel] Module release: FreCrampon

2025-03-18 Thread David Haslam
with [Proton Mail](https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G) secure email. On Tuesday, March 18th, 2025 at 9:42 PM, David Haslam wrote: > I hadn't thought of doing this analysis until today. > > My recent detailed observations about the FreBBB module also are applicable > to FreCampon. &

Re: [sword-devel] Module release: FreLXXGiguet

2025-03-18 Thread David Haslam
I'm inclined to suspect that this verse may have a word missing! Genesis 29:7: Le jour est encore grand, dit Jacob, et ce n’est point l’heure où l’on rassemble les troupeaux ; faites donc boire vos brebis et -les au pâturage. I should have expected to see a French verb before "-les". These 7 lin

Re: [sword-devel] Module release: FreCrampon

2025-03-18 Thread David Haslam
I hadn't thought of doing this analysis until today. My recent detailed observations about the FreBBB module also are applicable to FreCampon. FreCrampon contains 22143 U+00A0 NO BREAK SPACE (NBSP) Of these, 6152 are not followed immediately by a punctuation mark! All but one of those are follo

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents

2025-03-18 Thread David Haslam
On Mar 17, 2025, at 5:24 PM, David Haslam wrote: >> >> My argument is simple & straightforward. > > Your argument is that display and search should have nothing to do with each > other. > >> When you hide diacritics, you ought not to be hiding punctuation marks. >

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents

2025-03-17 Thread David Haslam
My argument is simple & straightforward. When you hide diacritics, you ought not to be hiding punctuation marks. Why is this so contentious? In what world does how a module displays require that punctuation be hidden? A quotation mark is not an accent! David On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 21:06, DM

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents

2025-03-17 Thread David Haslam
https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G) secure email. On Monday, March 17th, 2025 at 6:46 PM, David Haslam wrote: > Hi DM, > > With Xiphos 4.3.1 (latest update) when I searched TischMorph either for "δι’ > ἡμερῶν", or for "δι’ ημερων", there were 2 results: > >

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents

2025-03-17 Thread David Haslam
btw. The same 2 results were obtained by a search for "δι ημερων". i.e. Without the U+2019 in the search key. Best regards, David Sent with [Proton Mail](https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G) secure email. On Monday, March 17th, 2025 at 6:46 PM, David Haslam wrote: > Hi DM, > >

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents

2025-03-17 Thread David Haslam
ormalized in exactly the same way as the > index was constructed. > > DM > >> On Mar 17, 2025, at 11:44 AM, David Haslam wrote: >> >> Hi DM, >> >> One impact is on the StatResGNT module, in which both single and double >> left/right quotation marks h

Re: [sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents

2025-03-17 Thread David Haslam
en U+2019 used as a quotation > mark and as an elision. > There is no other character that is an appropriate replacement for U+2019. > > I haven’t yet looked at Unicode TR30 regarding folding rules as it pertains > to this. > > In Him, > DM > >> On Mar 17, 2025, at 8:46 A

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos 4.3.1

2025-03-17 Thread David Haslam
Installed! 😎 Best regards, David Sent with [Proton Mail](https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G) secure email. On Monday, March 17th, 2025 at 12:56 PM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > A fatal module manager bug was found for 1st-time users. > 4.3.0 release is retracted, 4.3.1 is already in place.__

[sword-devel] GlobalOptionFilter=UTF8GreekAccents

2025-03-17 Thread David Haslam
Dear SWORD developers, I asked about this topic several years ago, and I'm no longer convinced by what we were told back then. After doing further research, it's my understanding that U+2019 RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK ought not to be hidden by this SWORD filter. - This codepoint is not a dia

Re: [sword-devel] Module TischMorph & other Ancient Greek modules - getting rid of the quotation mark?

2025-03-16 Thread David Haslam
s://aka.ms/o0ukef) > > --- > > From: sword-devel on behalf of David > Haslam > Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2025 8:08 am > To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum > Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Module TischMorph & other Ancient Greek modules - > getting r

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS abbr element and indexing/searching

2025-03-16 Thread David Haslam
I second that motion! On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 16:44, DM Smith <[dmsm...@crosswire.org](mailto:On Sun, Mar 16, 2025 at 16:44, DM Smith < wrote: > Recently we had a discussion regarding nomina sacra, which is a Greek New > Testament manuscript abbreviation for sacred names. It is going back and

Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos 4.3.0

2025-03-16 Thread David Haslam
Thanks Karl & team, Successfully installed Xiphos (x64) in my Windows 11 laptop. Confirmed that installing a module to replace an earlier module no longer crashes Xiphos. Bravo!!! 😎 Best regards, David Sent with [Proton Mail](https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G) secure email. On Sunday, March 16

Re: [sword-devel] Module TischMorph & other Ancient Greek modules - getting rid of the quotation mark?

2025-03-16 Thread David Haslam
ith sufficiently up-to-date filters. > > Why is the text using an apostrophe character in the first place, rather than > the appropriate accent character? > > --Greg > > On Sat, Mar 15, 2025 at 1:46 PM David Haslam wrote: > >> Further to my message sent to t

Re: [sword-devel] Module TischMorph & other Ancient Greek modules - getting rid of the quotation mark?

2025-03-15 Thread David Haslam
cure email. On Saturday, March 15th, 2025 at 6:02 PM, David Haslam wrote: > Thinking about the teleological conflict caused by using U+2019 RIGHT SINGLE > QUOTATION MARK as a Greek Diacritic, > I wish to suggest that in modules where this was the case, that we might > replace all U+201

Re: [sword-devel] [modules] New Beta Module: StatResGNT

2025-03-15 Thread David Haslam
](https://aka.ms/o0ukef) > > --- > > From: sword-devel on behalf of David > Haslam > Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2025 11:58 am > To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum > Subject: Re: [sword-devel] [modules] New Bet

Re: [sword-devel] [modules] New Beta Module: StatResGNT

2025-03-15 Thread David Haslam
would be more appropriate - though of course the rendering for it would have > to be implemented. > > Le sam. 15 mars 2025 à 11:46, David Haslam a écrit : > >> Arnaud, >> >> The divineName is used only for the Tetragrammaton and its conjugates from >> t

Re: [sword-devel] [modules] New Beta Module: StatResGNT

2025-03-15 Thread David Haslam
ode in SWORD is applying a proper formatting to this > divineName tag. > (Or even better, allow bibles to carry "stylesheets" to customise the > rendering of tags per-bible without sacrificing the semantic information - > but that's a matter for another day). > &

[sword-devel] Spaced letters

2025-03-15 Thread David Haslam
After documenting overline, I have also documented spaced letters See https://wiki.crosswire.org/OSIS_Bibles#Spaced_letters Best regards, David Sent with [Proton Mail](https://pr.tn/ref/SWXT9A5YZ67G) secure email.___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-de

Re: [sword-devel] [modules] New Beta Module: StatResGNT

2025-03-14 Thread David Haslam
ither TEI overline or OSIS x-overline would be best, >>> osisxhtml.cpp: // OSIS overline attribute is made available, these should >>> all >>> osisxhtml.cpp: else if (type == "ol" || type == "overline" || type == >>> "x-overline")

Re: [sword-devel] [modules] New Beta Module: StatResGNT

2025-03-14 Thread David Haslam
osisxhtml.cpp: else if (type == "ol" || type == "overline" || type == > "x-overline") { > osisxhtml.cpp: outText("", buf, u); > teihtmlhref.cpp: else if (rend == "overline") > teihtmlhref.cpp: buf += ""; > teihtmlhref

Re: [sword-devel] [modules] New Beta Module: StatResGNT

2025-03-14 Thread David Haslam
without any decoration. It should be added to our edition of > OSIS. > >> On Mar 14, 2025, at 4:55 AM, David Haslam wrote: >> >> Hi Troy, >> >> Does SWORD support an OSIS equivalent to this TEI snippet? >> >>> >>> θς >> >&g

[sword-devel] Greek accents and quotation marks?

2025-03-14 Thread David Haslam
I'm starting a new thread for this topic, which arose in the context of my beta testing the StatResGNT module. This module makes use of both double and single quotation marks, and in some places the quotations are possibly nested to level 3. A conflict arises because most front-ends have a UI o

Re: [sword-devel] [modules] New Beta Module: StatResGNT

2025-03-13 Thread David Haslam
m ignoring the reported difference in counts of 1, when making the above observation. This being a more technical matter, I have cc: sword-devel again. Best regards, David Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) secure email. On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 12:13 PM, David Haslam

Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: [modules] New Beta Module: StatResGNT

2025-03-13 Thread David Haslam
particular form of nomina sacra. If that can't be done > elegantly, then I would suggest simply stripping out the ˚ symbol entirely > and just show the full word. > > Alan Bunning, D.Litt. > Executive Director > Center for New Testament Restoration > https://greekcntr

Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: [modules] New Beta Module: StatResGNT

2025-03-13 Thread David Haslam
. On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 2:22 PM, David Haslam wrote: > Thanks, Alan, for the explanation. > > This then prompts a suggestion as to the potential use of the OSIS abbr > element for each instance. This would require that each type of nomina sacrum > would then need to

Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: [modules] New Beta Module: StatResGNT

2025-03-13 Thread David Haslam
ovács Zoltán wrote: > >> Dear Alan, >> I received the following emails. I haven't looked into them very much, but >> maybe you want to join the conversation. >> Blessings, Zoltan >> >> -- Forwarded message - >> Feladó: David Haslam

Re: [sword-devel] Is there a reason module download is very slow today

2025-03-11 Thread David Haslam
It took only 3 seconds for me too. Q. Was Martin connecting via a VPN at all ? Sometimes, a VPN can really slow down some kinds of internet connection. David On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 20:33, Karl Kleinpaste <[k...@kleinpaste.org](mailto:On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 20:33, Karl Kleinpaste < wrote: >

[sword-devel] Wanted: Convert all Daily Devotional nodules from ThML to OSIS

2025-03-07 Thread David Haslam
The updated MCheyne module (v 1.4) that's now available in the Xiphos repository has paved the way. The major change was for the Scripture references being converted to OSIS syntax. Formerly all these were in ThML syntax, and that is now deprecated. It would be great if the same transformation

Re: [sword-devel] Wanted: Convert all Daily Devotional modules from ThML to OSIS

2025-03-07 Thread David Haslam
Sorry about the typo in the subject line! Best regards, David Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) secure email. On Friday, March 7th, 2025 at 3:37 PM, David Haslam wrote: > The updated MCheyne module (v 1.4) that's now available in the Xiphos > repository has pa

Re: [sword-devel] Bishop for iPadOS - links in the Daily Devotional module MCheyne ?

2025-03-06 Thread David Haslam
ry_1.2=(2014-07-30) Five references corrected by David Haslam. Website, > etc., changed in conf file. > History_1.1=Problems with some references corrected by David Bell > History_1.0=Modified and posted by Karl Kleinpaste > History_0.9=Initial module, converted from HTML version by

Re: [sword-devel] LXX versification ?

2025-03-02 Thread David Haslam
Forwarding to sword-devel to elicit potential responses from the wider community. On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 09:30, David Haslam <[dfh...@protonmail.com](mailto:On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 09:30, David Haslam < wrote: > Who can explain why the SWORD > [versification](https://wiki.c

Re: [sword-devel] Empty verses in Bible modules, especially verse 1 of a chapter!

2025-03-01 Thread David Haslam
ierre amadio amadio.pie...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi there ! > > In the crosswire beta repository, LXX module > 1Kgs 3:1 > > On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 at 20:19, David Haslam dfh...@protonmail.com wrote: > >> Hi Tobias, >> >> The topic was prompted by ongoing analysis in

[xiphos-users] Fw: Re: [sword-devel] Downgrading eBible.org ftp repository service; upgrading https service

2025-03-01 Thread David Haslam
onnections to eBible.org except for at shop.eBible.org and >> https://eBible.org/cgi-bin/contact.cgi but there may come a day when HTTP >> goes away, too. >> >> On 2/26/25 22:03, David Haslam wrote: >> >>> Hi Michael, >

Re: [sword-devel] Sword phrase search not returning all expected results

2025-03-01 Thread David Haslam
Hi Tobias, Returning to the start of this thread... Using Advanced Search in Xiphos, it found these 11 locations for the exact phrase "generation to generation" > Exo 17:16 > Isa 13:20 > Isa 34:10 > Isa 34:17Isa 51:8 > > Jer 50:39 > Lam 5:19 > Dan 4:3 > Dan 4:34 > Joel 3:20Luke 1:50 The one y

Re: [sword-devel] Sword phrase search not returning all expected results

2025-03-01 Thread David Haslam
t; Hi David, > > when I perform a Lucene search for "faith" in the KJV with Xiphos 4.2.1 on > Linux I get 341 results. > When I perform an exact phrase search with the same environment I get 338 > results (exactly like in Ezra after the bugfix). > > Best regards,

Re: [sword-devel] Sword phrase search not returning all expected results

2025-03-01 Thread David Haslam
:09 AM, Tobias Klein wrote: > Hi David, > > when I perform a Lucene search for "faith" in the KJV with Xiphos 4.2.1 on > Linux I get 341 results. > When I perform an exact phrase search with the same environment I get 338 > results (exactly like in Ezra after the bugf

Re: [sword-devel] Sword phrase search not returning all expected results

2025-03-01 Thread David Haslam
8 search results. So > you see that quite some verses are missed by the search function because of > this bug. > > Best regards, > Tobias > > On 2/23/25 18:38, David Haslam wrote: > >> Excellent sleuthing, Tobias ! >> >> Best regards, >> >>

Re: [sword-devel] Downgrading eBible.org ftp repository service; upgrading https service

2025-02-28 Thread David Haslam
tly it's not adequate to just select > the line. > > has that always been the case? I don't remember. I installed a bunch of > modules years ago and now only seldom install anymore, so maybe I just forgot. > > Fred > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 2:56 PM David

Re: [sword-devel] Downgrading eBible.org ftp repository service; upgrading https service

2025-02-28 Thread David Haslam
://proton.me/mail/home) secure email. On Friday, February 28th, 2025 at 6:58 PM, Fred wrote: > David, not under ancient greek, but it is under English. All the ones I tried > are English unless otherwise stated. > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 1:34 PM David Haslam wrote: > >>

Re: [sword-devel] Downgrading eBible.org ftp repository service; upgrading https service

2025-02-28 Thread David Haslam
MalWareBytes warns me against visiting ebible.com ! Please be careful out there!! Best regards, David Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) secure email. On Friday, February 28th, 2025 at 7:26 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: > On 2/28/25 09:13, Fred wrote: > >> I do

Re: [sword-devel] Downgrading eBible.org ftp repository service; upgrading https service

2025-02-28 Thread David Haslam
ched files. > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 12:06 PM David Haslam wrote: > >> I was also able to successfully install the TNT moduleengtnteb via HTTPS >> from eBible.org >> >> i.e. After adding the HTTPS module source to Xiphos as described in the >> thread. &

Re: [sword-devel] Downgrading eBible.org ftp repository service; upgrading https service

2025-02-28 Thread David Haslam
n Xiphos from the commandline and did it again, but no error > messages appeared. > > Clues? (I have none!) > > Fred > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 9:06 AM David Haslam wrote: > >> PostScript: >> >> I was able to successfully install the YLT module engylt1898eb

Re: [sword-devel] Downgrading eBible.org ftp repository service; upgrading https service

2025-02-28 Thread David Haslam
PostScript: I was able to successfully install the YLT module engylt1898eb via HTTPS. So why the problem with the Brenton module? Best regards, David Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) secure email. On Friday, February 28th, 2025 at 1:47 PM, David Haslam wrote: > I

Re: [sword-devel] Downgrading eBible.org ftp repository service; upgrading https service

2025-02-28 Thread David Haslam
I did that and then tried to install module engBrent1851eb Xiphos gave the error message "Install Failed" (just like it did for FTP). Best regards, David Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) secure email. On Friday, February 28th, 2025 at 12:19 PM, Scott Buchanan sc...@crumble

Re: [sword-devel] Downgrading eBible.org ftp repository service; upgrading https service

2025-02-27 Thread David Haslam
Hi Michael, Does anything need to be changed here? [Official and Affiliated Module Repositories - CrossWire Bible Society](https://wiki.crosswire.org/Official_and_Affiliated_Module_Repositories#eBible.org) Everyone: Except for the note under AndBibleExtra, there's no mention of https ! Do we nee

Re: [sword-devel] Empty verses in Bible modules, especially verse 1 of a chapter!

2025-02-24 Thread David Haslam
h [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) secure email. On Monday, February 24th, 2025 at 7:10 PM, David Haslam wrote: > Hi Tobias, > > The topic was prompted by ongoing analysis in the updated LXX module in > CrossWire Beta. > > Refer to the various active threads in both s

Re: [sword-devel] Empty verses in Bible modules, especially verse 1 of a chapter!

2025-02-24 Thread David Haslam
24th, 2025 at 6:56 PM, Tobias Klein wrote: > Hi David, > > Is there an example where this issue is occurring? Do you have a module name > and the respective Bible book? > > Best regards, > Tobias > > Am 24. Februar 2025 12:09:07 schrieb David Haslam : > >> I

[sword-devel] Empty verses in Bible modules, especially verse 1 of a chapter!

2025-02-24 Thread David Haslam
I have just inserted a new section on this topic here https://wiki.crosswire.org/OSIS_Bibles#Empty_verses Do any other front-end apps have a problem when a verse 1 is missing, besides Xiphos? Best regards, David Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) secure email.___

Re: [sword-devel] Sword phrase search not returning all expected results

2025-02-23 Thread David Haslam
Excellent sleuthing, Tobias ! Best regards, David Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) secure email. On Sunday, February 23rd, 2025 at 5:17 PM, Tobias Klein wrote: > Hi Troy, > > I have discovered the root cause of this bug. > > There is the following code in osisplain.cpp. >

Re: [sword-devel] Sword phrase search not returning all expected results

2025-02-22 Thread David Haslam
t; > Maybe Xiphos uses a different revision of the SWORD engine? > > I am using something close to 1.9.0 (SVN Rev. 3823). > > Best regards, > Tobias > > Am 22. Februar 2025 15:52:01 schrieb David Haslam : > >> Hi Tobias, >> >> A search for the same e

Re: [sword-devel] Sword phrase search not returning all expected results

2025-02-22 Thread David Haslam
Hi Tobias, A search for the same exact phrase in Xiphos returns all the locations, including Exodus 17:16 Best regards, David Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) secure email. On Saturday, February 22nd, 2025 at 2:45 PM, Tobias Klein cont...@tklein.info wrote: > Hi Troy, >

[sword-devel] Marking Pilcrows, etc.

2025-02-22 Thread David Haslam
I have just inserted this new section into the wiki page for OSIS Bibles. https://wiki.crosswire.org/OSIS_Bibles#Marking_Pilcrows This is long overdue, as we've been using this method in the KJV module for many years. Although the original purpose was simply for marking Pilcrow symbols using th

Re: [sword-devel] LXX verse numbering with alphanumeric character

2025-02-22 Thread David Haslam
Hi Pierre, Here's the mod2imp output for beta module LXX v3.1 for the location firstmentioned in this email thread. $$$I Kings 2:46 וַיְצַ֣ו הַמֶּ֗לֶךְ אֶת־בְּנָיָ֨הוּ֙ בֶּן־יְה֣וֹיָדָ֔ע וַיֵּצֵ֕א וַיִּפְגַּע־בּ֖וֹ וַיָּמֹ֑ת וְהַמַּמְלָכָ֥ה נָכ֖וֹנָה בְּיַד־שְׁלֹמֹֽה׃ The next line is $$$I Kin

Re: [sword-devel] Fw: The Abbreviation key in Config files

2025-02-20 Thread David Haslam
some other aspect of the mail route you use. If > any user gets your mail then CrossWire accepted it and forwarded it to the > recipients. I am sorry for the trouble. > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2025, 17:09 David Haslam wrote: > >> Hi Troy, >> >> One of the reasons I began

Re: [sword-devel] Fw: The Abbreviation key in Config files

2025-02-20 Thread David Haslam
genuine participants' email messages! How is it that it's always me that hits these problems? Best regards, David Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) secure email. On Thursday, February 20th, 2025 at 3:41 PM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > David Haslam [](mailto:dfh...@p

Re: [sword-devel] Fw: The Abbreviation key in Config files

2025-02-20 Thread David Haslam
d keep things as they are so that > front end designers don't get the idea that version abbreviations are unique > to just one module. Even being unique to a language is iffy if the module has > different sources. I can't fix bad front end design. > > On 2/18/25 10:1

Re: [sword-devel] LXX verse numbering with alphanumeric character

2025-02-20 Thread David Haslam
Hi Pierre, From pages 145-146 (page break removed) of the OSIS Reference Manual > Appendix J.3 Extension (optional) > While standard citation systems are well known and should be covered by the > main part of the osisID, there are cases where such systems have been > extended. Some of those ext

[sword-devel] The Abbreviation key in Config files

2025-02-15 Thread David Haslam
Some modules in some repositories make use of the Abbreviation key. This key is documented in the devlopers' wiki: https://wiki.crosswire.org/DevTools:conf_Files Note 2 reads: "We advise against explicitly declaring a redundant Abbreviation identical to the ModName. Abbreviation values should t

Re: [sword-devel] osis2mod and Xinclude ?

2025-01-30 Thread David Haslam
ocrypha.xml (or whatever it is called) could be added in. > >> On Jan 30, 2025, at 11:16 AM, David Haslam wrote: >> >> What would it take to enable osis2mod to process a top level OSIS file that >> called subsidiary XML files using the Xinclude feature? >> >

[sword-devel] osis2mod and Xinclude ?

2025-01-30 Thread David Haslam
What would it take to enable osis2mod to process a top level OSIS file that called subsidiary XML files using the Xinclude feature? See https://www.w3.org/TR/xinclude/ and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XInclude Potential use: Instead of having to script the merging of two OSIS files (e.g. for t

Re: [sword-devel] Canonical Psalm titles and SWORD search?

2025-01-28 Thread David Haslam
rd does not support it because osis2mod >> does not transform the tag to milestoned form. > > Right. It doesn’t fit the pattern above. > > What module exhibits this multi-verse title and in which Psalm? I’d like to > take a look at it. > >> Regards, >> >>

Re: [sword-devel] Canonical Psalm titles and SWORD search?

2025-01-28 Thread David Haslam
lts: > > Regards, > > Johan Marais > > --- > > -----Original Message- > From: sword-devel On Behalf Of David > Haslam > Sent: Tuesday, 28 January 2025 10:45 > To: sword-devel mailing list > Subject: [

[sword-devel] Canonical Psalm titles and SWORD search?

2025-01-28 Thread David Haslam
I just tried to search for the word 'Neginoth' using Xiphos. There were no results found! This word occurs in the canonical Psalm title for Ps.6 and five other Psalms. "To the chief Musician on Neginoth upon Sheminith, A Psalm of David." In view of the fact that canonical Psalm titles are trans

Re: [sword-devel] Module release: LXX

2025-01-27 Thread David Haslam
Here's a link to the VMRCRE which Troy mentioned. [VMR CRE - Virtual Manuscript Room Collaborative Research Environment - Virtual Manuscript Room Collaborative Research Environment (VMR CRE)](https://vmrcre.org/) It may be of wider interest than the particular technical point about versificati

Re: [sword-devel] Module release: LXX

2025-01-24 Thread David Haslam
Arnaud, Sorry for the typo in your name in my reply. Mea culpa. Best regards, David Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) secure email. On Friday, January 24th, 2025 at 10:01 AM, David Haslam wrote: > Thanks Arnoud, > > I just added a link under Resources in the d

Re: [sword-devel] Module release: LXX

2025-01-24 Thread David Haslam
Thanks Arnoud, I just added a link under Resources in the developers' wiki page: [Alternate Versification - CrossWire Bible Society](https://wiki.crosswire.org/Alternate_Versification#Resources) Best regards, David Sent with [Proton Mail](https://proton.me/mail/home) secure email. On Friday,

Re: [sword-devel] Bishop for iPadOS - links in the Daily Devotional module MCheyne ?

2025-01-14 Thread David Haslam
iOS](https://aka.ms/o0ukef) > > --- > > From: sword-devel on behalf of David > Haslam > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2025 3:29 pm > To: sword-devel mailing list > Subject: [sword-devel] Bishop for iPadOS - links in the Daily Devotional >

Re: [sword-devel] PocketSword

2025-01-14 Thread David Haslam
e, Jan 14, 2025 at 5:57 AM Kahunapule Michael Johnson > wrote: > >> I discussed this with a volunteer developer, today. We agreed that probably >> the best way forward was a rewrite/replacement. If anyone wants to >> contribute to that effort, please let me know. &g

[sword-devel] Bishop for iPadOS - links in the Daily Devotional module MCheyne ?

2025-01-14 Thread David Haslam
Today I tried out Bishop in my iPad Mini 4, following the suggestion that I try Bishop in case we lose PocketSword forever. Aside: The KJV module was already installed, but it needed to be updated. Afterwards, I installed the Daily Devotional module MCheyne from the Xiphos repo. M'Cheyne's Bib

Re: [sword-devel] PocketSword

2025-01-14 Thread David Haslam
h a volunteer developer, today. We agreed that probably > the best way forward was a rewrite/replacement. If anyone wants to contribute > to that effort, please let me know. > > > On 1/13/25 00:26, David Haslam wrote: > > > FYI: I've just noted the discovery in the

Re: [sword-devel] PocketSword

2025-01-13 Thread David Haslam
FYI: I've just noted the discovery in the developers' wiki https://wiki.crosswire.org/Frontends:PocketSword Best regards, David Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Sunday, January 12th, 2025 at 10:12 PM, David Haslam wrote: > Dear all, > > Today I discovered tha

Re: [sword-devel] PocketSword

2025-01-13 Thread David Haslam
, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: > Sadly, Craig dropped the ball on this one. There is another possible > volunteer that I will be talking to soon... > > On 1/12/25 12:12, David Haslam wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> Today I discovered that PocketSword is no longer do

[sword-devel] PocketSword

2025-01-12 Thread David Haslam
Dear all, Today I discovered that PocketSword is no longer downloadable from the App Store! NB. I've already alerted Michael Johnson via Messenger. cf. The original developer (Nic Carter) stopped developing the software after he moved to teach in New Zealand several years ago. Presumably, App

Re: [sword-devel] diatheke - plain output error

2025-01-01 Thread David Haslam
reg Hellings < wrote: > On Tue, Dec 31, 2024 at 12:53 PM David Haslam < dfh...@protonmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Peter, >> >> I just tried with diatheke.exe that is bundled with Xiphos for Windows. >> 4.2.1 (gtk2 webkit1) >> >> This may be based on an ear

Re: [sword-devel] diatheke - plain output error

2024-12-31 Thread David Haslam
Hi Peter, I just tried with diatheke.exe that is bundled with Xiphos for Windows. 4.2.1 (gtk2 webkit1) This may be based on an earlier version of SWORD. The utilities were all dated 2020-04-26. The plain filter did not show the fault you reported. eg. Genesis 1:15: And let them be for lights i

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