It would also require that we devise a means to encode in the OSIS the
equivalent to what was used in the underlying Wiki format !
{{overline|ΘΥ}}
I doubt if the SWORD engine has a means to implement that!
Best regards,
David
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On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 2:22 PM, David Haslam <dfh...@protonmail.com>
wrote:
> Thanks, Alan, for the explanation.
>
> This then prompts a suggestion as to the potential use of the OSIS abbr
> element for each instance. This would require that each type of nomina sacrum
> would then need to be retained as the abbreviation, and then expanded using
> the XML attribute, e.g.
>
> <abbr expansion="Θεοῦ">ΘΥ</abbr>
>
> Please refer to the OSIS User Manualsection 13.2
>
> NB. I don't know whether the SWORD engine has any code to display the
> expansions!
> The coders might enlighten us on this point. I have therefore cc: to
> sword-devel in this reply.
>
> Best regards,
>
> David
>
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> On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 1:45 PM, Alan Bunning <greekc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, that symbol is used to mark nomina sacra.
>>
>> Alan Bunning, D.Litt.
>> Executive Director
>> Center for New Testament Restoration
>> https://greekcntr.org
>>
>> On 3/13/2025 9:42 AM, Kovács Zoltán wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Alan,
>>> I received the following emails. I haven't looked into them very much, but
>>> maybe you want to join the conversation.
>>> Blessings, Zoltan
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> Feladó: David Haslam <dfh...@protonmail.com>
>>> Date: 2025. márc. 13., Cs, 14:37
>>> Subject: Re: [modules] New Beta Module: StatResGNT
>>> To: pierre amadio <amadio.pie...@gmail.com>
>>> Cc: Kovács Zoltán <kov...@gmail.com>, <modu...@crosswire.org>
>>>
>>> Hi Pierre,
>>>
>>> That's a very plausible explanation!
>>>
>>> Here are the relevant lines from my word count.
>>>
>>>> Word Count
>>>> ˚Θεέ 2
>>>> ˚Θεοῦ 690
>>>> ˚Θεόν 73
>>>> ˚Θεός 68
>>>> ˚Θεὸν 72
>>>> ˚Θεὸς 239
>>>> ˚Θεῷ 158
>>>> ˚Κυρίου 231
>>>> ˚Κυρίῳ 95
>>>> ˚Κύριε 89
>>>> ˚Κύριον 63
>>>> ˚Κύριος 139
>>>> ˚Κύριόν 1
>>>> ˚Κύριός 10
>>>> ˚Πνεύματι 59
>>>> ˚Πνεύματος 79
>>>> ˚Πνεύματός 5
>>>> ˚Πνεῦμά 7
>>>> ˚Πνεῦμα 99
>>>> ˚Χριστέ 1
>>>> ˚Χριστοῦ 252
>>>> ˚Χριστόν 18
>>>> ˚Χριστός 41
>>>> ˚Χριστὸν 48
>>>> ˚Χριστὸς 71
>>>> ˚Χριστῷ 104
>>>> ˚θεὸς 1
>>>> ˚Ἰησοῦ 329
>>>> ˚Ἰησοῦν 126
>>>> ˚Ἰησοῦς 456
>>>
>>> NB. If this is a technical means to mark the use of nomina sacra, then it
>>> ought to be described in the conf file!
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> David
>>>
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>>> On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 1:11 PM, pierre amadio
>>> amadio.pie...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi there.
>>>>
>>>> As far as I know, there is no such greek accent as a circular mark
>>>> such as Ring Above (U+02DA).
>>>> Looking at the source text, they seem to always appears next to words such
>>>> as
>>>> https://github.com/Center-for-New-Testament-Restoration/SR/blob/main/SR.txt
>>>> ˚Ἰησοῦ ˚Χριστοῦ,
>>>> ˚Πνεύματος
>>>> ˚Κυρίου
>>>>
>>>> Could it be a way to mark the use of a nomina sacra in manuscripts ?
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomina_sacra
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 at 13:38, Kovács Zoltán kov...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, David, I will look into it and get back to you.
>>>>> Best, Zoltan
>>>>>
>>>>> David Haslam dfh...@protonmail.com ezt írta (időpont: 2025. márc. 13.,
>>>>> Cs, 13:33):
>>>>>
>>>>>> Arising from the grapheme count, I have a further technical query.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are 3626 instances of U+02DA RING ABOVE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am wondering whether these would be better being all replaced by
>>>>>> U+030A COMBINING RING ABOVE, and if so, whether the mark should follow
>>>>>> the Greek letter rather than precede it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NB. My knowledge of Ancient Greek accents rules is fairly limited.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Q. What is the most suitable Unicode font for viewing a Greek NT text?
>>>>>> Might it be sensible to include such an element in the .conf file?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 12:13 PM, David Haslam
>>>>>> dfh...@protonmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Kovács,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Using BabelPad Tools, I have just done a grapheme count on the full
>>>>>> Greek text with accents.
>>>>>> i.e. After first stripping out the references from the diatheke output.
>>>>>> See inside attached 7-Zip file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are two left/right count mismatches that ought to be looked at.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2018 ‘ 483
>>>>>> 2019 ’ 484
>>>>>> 201C “ 1,904
>>>>>> 201D ” 1,907
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cf. The counts of left/right parentheses were OK.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 0028 ( 62
>>>>>> 0029 ) 62
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 11:59 AM, David Haslam
>>>>>> dfh...@protonmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This module has the wrong Versification.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a Greek NT and therefore LXX is simply the wrong choice!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please fix this ASAP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dom, Please also fix any bug in your script that led to this mistake!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 12th, 2025 at 5:52 PM, dom...@crosswire.org
>>>>>> dom...@crosswire.org wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is to announce that we have just now uploaded StatResGNT
>>>>>> in the CrossWire beta repository for testing purposes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If no raised concern nor a quality alert has been sent on the list,
>>>>>> StatResGNT will be published in a week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is an update.
>>>>>> Language=Ancient Greek (to 1453)
>>>>>> Version=1.3
>>>>>> History_1.3=(2025-03-12) Update to newest release (last database change:
>>>>>> 2024-07-16)
>>>>>> TextSource=https://github.com/Center-for-New-Testament-Restoration/SR/blob/master/SR.txt
>>>>>> Versification=LXX
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks to Kovács_Zoltán for the hard work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yours
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S.: This email is sent automatically.
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