Hi Troy,

One of the reasons I began use my Proton Mail account for the various CrossWire 
mailing lists was because the CrossWire mail server was dumping everything from 
any btinternet.com address into the SPAM dump!

I think the server setup needs a thorough vetting to stop it rubbishing genuine 
participants' email messages!

How is it that it's always me that hits these problems?

Best regards,

David

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On Thursday, February 20th, 2025 at 3:41 PM, Karl Kleinpaste 
<k...@kleinpaste.org> wrote:

> David Haslam [<dfh...@protonmail.com>](mailto:dfh...@protonmail.com) wrote:
>
>>> My initial message in this thread was sent to sword-devel.
>>> Other than Michael & Karl, did anyone else receive it?
>
> For reasons I don't care to guess, I haven't seen David's emails in 
> sword-devel in a very long time -- years. I see his comments only in quoted 
> replies by others. I think something's spam filter is overworked.
>
> On Tuesday, February 18th, 2025 at 8:49 PM, Michael Johnson 
> [<kahunap...@ebible.org>](mailto:kahunap...@ebible.org) wrote:
>
>> I got this, but I'm in time triage mode, and this is not an issue that I can 
>> reasonably fix. Indeed, if anything, I should keep things as they are so 
>> that front end designers don't get the idea that version abbreviations are 
>> unique to just one module. Even being unique to a language is iffy if the 
>> module has different sources. I can't fix bad front end design.
>
> It is not "bad front end design" to say that when the user asks for KJV, he 
> should get KJV, not an nth level derivative instance from a tertiary source.
> Sword Project apps have one "native" KJV. If the user doesn't want to install 
> that, instead installs another, and wants to refer to that using a convenient 
> abbreviation as KJV, that's fine. But whenever the module whose .conf says 
> "[KJV]" is installed, the other with an abbreviation loses being 
> distinguished by the name "KJV".
> Since modules' native names don't conflict by definition (i.e. [Name] must be 
> unique across mods.d/*.conf¹), then nothing else can advertise itself as the 
> (real, for Sword Project purposes) KJV.
> Xiphos' abbreviation support is not nearly as good as it needs to be. For 
> starters, it needs conflict resolution, and that begins with tossing away 
> abbreviations that collide with any installed module's native [Name].
>
> And what to do when 2+ modules have the same Abbreviation=?
>
> --karl
>
> ¹ Verify with grep '^\[' .sword/mods.d/*.conf | cut -f2 -d: | sort | uniq -c 
> | grep -v ' 1 '
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