RE: [SAtalk] Re: Auto-whitelist improvement ideas

2002-01-21 Thread Michael Moncur
alid PGP signatures? Or is it just a simple regexp check for something resembling one? -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out." -- Will Rogers _

RE: [SAtalk] Subject munging bug?

2002-01-23 Thread Michael Moncur
Excellent! I am continually impressed by SpamAssassin's rate of development. I've thought of several great ideas only to discover that they're already implemented in the latest CVS. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Of those who

[SAtalk] Occasional error running spamassassin?

2002-01-25 Thread Michael Moncur
ECTED]" at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/Mail/SpamAssassin/DBBasedAddrList.pm line 147. procmail: Program failure (70) of "spamassassin" procmail: Rescue of unfiltered data succeeded -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Of th

[SAtalk] False positive in HTTP_ESCAPED_HOST rule

2002-01-30 Thread Michael Moncur
sh [^\/]* and should also end when it reaches a space. Or perhaps a parenthesis or quotation mark? Tab? Pound sign? Anything else that URLs commonly end with?) This same issue could make a false positive in the HTTP_CTRL_CHARS_HOST rule, but I haven't run into one. -- michael monc

[SAtalk] Spam phrases - is "for your" really that spammy?

2002-01-31 Thread Michael Moncur
orks great! Many thanx, Dilly -- : -- : -- : -- : -- : -- : -- : -- : -- : -- : -- : -- : -- : -- : -- Never do card tricks for your poker group. ---end included message -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Of those who say nothing, f

[SAtalk] Stock advisory spams slipping through

2002-01-31 Thread Michael Moncur
DoubleClick, the relatively respectable banner-ad company. Here's a "remove" URL from the message: http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;3824278;6743144;o?http://home.ingdirect.com/promo /promo_set.asp?p=%9BURdVw%AC. I've only seen two of these so far, but maybe a "lots of numbers in UR

RE: [SAtalk] Spam phrases - is "for your" really that spammy?

2002-02-01 Thread Michael Moncur
://bugzilla.spamassassin.org/ OK, submitted as bug # 22. Thanks! -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Of those who say nothing, few are silent." -- Thomas Neill ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk

RE: [SAtalk] Stock advisory spams slipping through

2002-02-01 Thread Michael Moncur
it. > I think that a doubleclick.net URL embedded in an email should be a very > strong indicator of spam. I agree - one exception might be users who are DoubleClick clients/sponsors and receive email from them legitimately, but they would probably need to whitelist it anyway. -- michael mon

[SAtalk] Suggested fix for WORK_AT_HOME test

2002-02-02 Thread Michael Moncur
s well as account for the variations "Make money at home" and "Make $$$ at home". BTW, I tested this on my own system by piping a bunch of test phrases through spamassassin -t and it appears to work. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Of tho

[SAtalk] More spam phrase problems

2002-02-05 Thread Michael Moncur
p://uptime.openacs.org/uptime/delete.tcl?monitor_id=7199 -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Of those who say nothing, few are silent." -- Thomas Neill ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTE

[SAtalk] Bug in INVALID_MSGID in latest build?

2002-02-05 Thread Michael Moncur
Since I upgraded to this morning's CVS version, I've noticed that the INVALID_MSGID test is positive on every single message I've received. This isn't a very big sample (5-6 messages) but I've never seen this happen before, and it happens even when I send test messag

RE: [SAtalk] Bug in INVALID_MSGID in latest build?

2002-02-05 Thread Michael Moncur
_IN_ WHITELIST_TO version=2.1 I haven't changed anything here besides upgrading SA... Are you sure this isn't something to do with the RFC2822 changes? Then again, INVALID_MSGID looks like a normal regex test. Is anyone else having this problem? -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtec

RE: [SAtalk] More spam phrase problems

2002-02-05 Thread Michael Moncur
> could you file a bug report against this problem with > bugzilla.spamassassin.org? I think spam phrases need a retrofit at > least as badly as AWL does. Sure, entered as Bug #31. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "There is no safety

[SAtalk] Suggested EXCUSE_x tweaks

2002-02-05 Thread Michael Moncur
ts for the variation "you no longer wish to receive mail" - it could just as easily be a separate rule but they are similar. Also, assuming I'm not the only one who receives these "Investor spec sheet" spams regularly, perhaps a rule for them? body INVESTOR_S

RE: [SAtalk] Bug in INVALID_MSGID in latest build?

2002-02-05 Thread Michael Moncur
have \s* like I should and the INVALID_MSGID problem seems to have gone away. I'll chalk this one up to gremlins. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "There is no safety in numbers, or in anything else." -- James Thurber __

[SAtalk] Reporting for new AWL?

2002-02-21 Thread Michael Moncur
something like this at the end of the spam report to avoid confusion: * -4.1 -- Whitelist: Correction based on sender's history While I'm at it, it looks like either the score in the spam report or the correction applied by the AWL would benefit from rounding... -- michael

[SAtalk] Suggested rule: link to page called "optout"

2002-02-22 Thread Michael Moncur
an A_HREF_TO_OPT_OUT rule, but that's different than a simple URL, and I assume there's some benefit to keeping them separate - i.e. A_HREF_TO_REMOVE and REMOVE_PAGE) -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "I believe in getting into hot water;

[SAtalk] Suggested new rules and changes

2002-02-22 Thread Michael Moncur
d required "NO" to be in caps. These changes might result in false positives, or at least a lower GA score, though. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "I believe in getting into hot water; it keeps you clean." -- G. K

RE: [SAtalk] Suggested new rules and changes

2002-02-22 Thread Michael Moncur
> i can tell you read the LM magazine What's that? I don't get it. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "I believe in getting into hot water; it keeps you clean."

RE: [SAtalk] Suggested new rules and changes

2002-02-22 Thread Michael Moncur
d spam, stock spam, health/fitness spam, and so on. Of course, I'm also imagining someone else doing all of the work. :) -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "I believe in getting into hot water; it keeps you clean." -- G. K. Chestert

[SAtalk] American Email Brands

2002-02-22 Thread Michael Moncur
d my own custom rule, but I'm not sure if it's worth including in SA: body AMERICAN_EMAIL_BRANDS /American Email Brands/ describe AMERICAN_EMAIL_BRANDS American Email Brands, frequent spammer score AMERICAN_EMAIL_BRANDS 5.0 -- michael moncur

[SAtalk] One big graphic?

2002-02-22 Thread Michael Moncur
I've had a few spam messages slip through SA recently because they consist of little or no text, with the entire content of the message in a graphic using an tag. I think virtually any message sent as one big graphic would be spam, but I can't think of a good way to detect it using a regular exp

RE: [SAtalk] SpamCop False Positivies

2002-02-24 Thread Michael Moncur
.spamcop.net, this seems like something that would be better handled by whitelisting. I assume a single whitelist check would take less time than a few regular expressions... -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "I believe in getting into hot water;

RE: [SAtalk] Announcing 2.1 release

2002-02-27 Thread Michael Moncur
pus? It doesn't include messages from this list, does it? I would think there would be no trouble calculating a positive score for something like "Monsterhut"... -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "I don't care what is w

[SAtalk] RE: GA coming up with wacky scores?

2002-02-28 Thread Michael Moncur
t's something I feel slightly more comfortable with. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "I don't care what is written about me so long as it isn't true." -- Dorothy Parker 50_scores.cf Description: Binary data

RE: [SAtalk] Troubling new scores in 2.1 release

2002-02-28 Thread Michael Moncur
", a well-known spam source. > body CORRECT_FOR_EXCHANGE /This message is in MIME format/ > describe CORRECT_FOR_EXCHANGE Correct for MIME 'null block' FYI, I seem to recall SA already having a test like this. You might want to double-check. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingte

RE: [SAtalk] Filter idea: non-spammish mail agents

2002-03-01 Thread Michael Moncur
x27;s what I currently have: > > The question is if it's not trivial for spammers to fake the MUA used... No, I think the question is whether spammers are routinely in the habit of faking the MUA used. (Regardless, I don't know the answer...) -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.co

[SAtalk] OT: a new game?

2002-03-01 Thread Michael Moncur
TECTED]> From: customerservice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: A new game This is a new game This game is my first work. You're the first player. I expect you would enjoy it. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "If we don't change dir

RE: [SAtalk] RichDad.com e-mail is treated as spam

2002-03-01 Thread Michael Moncur
ly be spam, they're sending it in a very spammy way and the network tests are flagging it. This is why I reduce the scores on all of the network tests (except Razor) - too many false positives. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ &q

RE: [SAtalk] OT: a new game?

2002-03-01 Thread Michael Moncur
> I say why bother thinking? Hit 'D' and be done with it. I guess it's my insatiable curiosity. Don't tell me I'm the only one who gets these? Maybe I need to talk to some of my friends who have too much time on their hands. > C > > Michael Moncur wrote:

RE: [SAtalk] Email list rules

2002-03-02 Thread Michael Moncur
Trouble is, I've seen lots of spam lately sent using legitimate mailing list software (i.e. Lyris). I definitely wouldn't use a score as low as -2 for any of these. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "If we don't change direction soon

RE: [SAtalk] 2.11 released

2002-03-03 Thread Michael Moncur
to add to a message to defeat SpamAssassin.) My only other concern is that a few scores might be a bit high - for example, CTYPE_JUST_HTML is at 4.459. This works for me, but I thought some people were having false positives on this rule recently. It wouldn't hurt to wait and see what people

RE: [SAtalk] A better alternative to test ROUND_THE_WORLD

2002-03-04 Thread Michael Moncur
ww.spamassassin.org where contributed/optional rule files could be made available. I agree that this would be a good way to handle the US-centric tests - heck, then someone could even make a file of Thailand-centric tests that penalizes messages for being in English... -- michael moncur mgm at sta

[SAtalk] Refined WORK_AT_HOME rules

2002-03-04 Thread Michael Moncur
T|HOME.?WORKER/i describe HOME_EMPLOYMENTInformation on home employment -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Misery no longer loves company. Nowadays it insists on it." -- Russell Baker

RE: [SAtalk] Combined subject and body tests?

2002-03-05 Thread Michael Moncur
"viagra" in the subject should be worth a higher score than "viagra" in the body. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Of those who say nothing, few are silent." -- Thomas Neill __

RE: [SAtalk] Refined WORK_AT_HOME rules

2002-03-05 Thread Michael Moncur
HOME_EMPLOYMENTInformation on home employment -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Of those who say nothing, few are silent." -- Thomas Neill > Actually, since that one's getting awfully big, perhaps the > following would be > a bet

RE: [SAtalk] Combined subject and body tests?

2002-03-06 Thread Michael Moncur
, typically) won't count for the body. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Of those who say nothing, few are silent." -- Thomas Neill ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://l

RE: [SAtalk] greylist?

2002-03-08 Thread Michael Moncur
score address@domain 2 to_score address2@domain -1 ... I suppose I could do this manually easy enough with header rules. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "In this business you either sink or swim or you

RE: [SAtalk] Scores over 5

2002-03-11 Thread Michael Moncur
equired_hits to 7.0, which seems to work pretty well with the current scores. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Research is the process of going up alleys to see if they are blind." -- Marston Bates _

[SAtalk] Stupid Outlook Tricks

2002-03-11 Thread Michael Moncur
am-Status header with a shorter one - this is because the long list of tests in this header tends to confuse Outlook and prevent the message flag display. The list of matched tests will be in the spam report anyway. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Re

RE: [SAtalk] CommuniGate is also RATWARE

2002-03-11 Thread Michael Moncur
red negatively by the latest GA. Are you sure it's strictly a spam tool? -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Research is the process of going up alleys to see if they are blind." -- Marston Bates _

RE: [SAtalk] Spamming via sound files, and other intersting techniques

2002-03-11 Thread Michael Moncur
> Did you play it? (or at least look at it more closely) Is it really a > sound file? Some viruses lately are wandering around with different > filenames and content-types. foo.exe and audio/wav, that sort of thing. > > (I'll bet that /http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Research is the process of going

RE: [SAtalk] Negative weightings for positive rules?

2002-03-11 Thread Michael Moncur
l CGI URLs as spam. > 2) All e-mail made with MS FrontPage is spam: Didn't someone already add a rule for this? -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Research is the process of going up alleys to see if they

RE: [SAtalk] SA should block spam that matches government rules

2002-03-11 Thread Michael Moncur
't think that's required) that > passed by the filter. Perhaps they're becoming more popular now, but in my archive of the last 500 spam messages I've received I didn't find a single occurrance of "ADV" or "ADLT" in the subject. I found 5

RE: [SAtalk] PORN ideas 2

2002-03-13 Thread Michael Moncur
rds could be individually scored with their level of, er, porniness... -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Every journalist has a novel in him, which is an excellent place for it." -- Russel Lynes __

RE: [SAtalk] Why to deliver SPAM even if it's identified. (was Re: Spamd and Milter - Expected Results?)

2002-03-13 Thread Michael Moncur
lient set to not bother notifying me with a sound when spam comes through. P.S. I have my spam threshold set to 7.0 now. While I've seen a few false negatives, I have yet to see a single false positive in the last week using this threshold. I think the 5.0 threshold is a bit low for the cur

[SAtalk] Contributed rules: MLM/business spam

2002-03-14 Thread Michael Moncur
I used a bunch of low-scoring rules rather than fewer high-scoring rules to minimize the chance of this. To use, just drop 53_mlm.cf into your SpamAssassin rules directory. It shouldn't interfere with anything else and installing a new SA release won't remove the file. -- michael

[SAtalk] Contributed rules: stock market spam

2002-03-14 Thread Michael Moncur
otherwise been missed. To use, just drop 54_stocks.cf into your SpamAssassin rules directory. It shouldn't interfere with anything else and installing a new SA release won't remove the file. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "My theory of evolut

[SAtalk] Rules for em5000.net spam

2002-03-21 Thread Michael Moncur
5.0 uri EM5000 /em5000\.net/i describe EM5000 em5000.net:Frequent SPAM content score EM5000 4.0 -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "My theory of evolution i

RE: [SAtalk] More rules for SPAM_PHRASES?

2002-03-24 Thread Michael Moncur
pam phrases system still broken? Or were these left turned off by mistake? I believe the issues with really short messages getting high scores were fixed and the system should be worth *something* now... -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "

[SAtalk] Rules for "Monster Crush" spam

2002-03-25 Thread Michael Moncur
ld be added to SA itself since they're specific to one spam source, but then things like "Monsterhut" and "mycasinobuilder.com" are in there, so who knows. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Talk sense

[SAtalk] More thoughts

2002-03-26 Thread Michael Moncur
Otherwise I'm inclined to just set my personal score for RELAYING_FRAME to 10, there's no legitimate use for them as far as I'm concerned. Incidentally, this message matched the LARGE_HEX rule for some reason, I have no idea why, but that rule being scored negative doesn'

RE: [SAtalk] Lolitas rule.....

2002-03-26 Thread Michael Moncur
nd an obscure rock music reference: "...just like the old man in that book by Nabokov" --The Police, "Don't Stand So Close To Me" -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Talk sense to a f

RE: [SAtalk] Can't get it to work

2002-03-26 Thread Michael Moncur
keeps them? Does the user you're testing spamassassin with have rights to read them? -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish."-- Euripides ___

RE: [SAtalk] More thoughts

2002-03-26 Thread Michael Moncur
ntical to doing things the normal way. Ah, that makes sense. I'm going to add a separate personal rule to filter out the messages with tags specifically - more of a virus checker's job than SA's I suppose. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com

RE: [SAtalk] Iframe text in subject

2002-03-26 Thread Michael Moncur
is should be submitted to > sourceforge. Ouch! I'm sorry, I had no idea their archive was as "beta" as that. Fortunately Geocrawler's archive seems unharmed. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "In this business you ei

[SAtalk] PORN3 and PORN12

2002-03-27 Thread Michael Moncur
uot;-" isn't likely to be. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "In this business you either sink or swim or you don't."-- David Smith ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL P

RE: [SAtalk] PORN3 and PORN12

2002-03-27 Thread Michael Moncur
> Agreed. If you file a bugzilla bug (bugzilla.spamassassin.org), it will be > fixed. Done, see bug # 146. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "In this business you either sink or swim or you don't.&qu

[SAtalk] Stupid Outlook (procmail) tricks revisited

2002-03-27 Thread Michael Moncur
uired=[0-9.]* * ^X-Spam-Level: \*\*\*\* | formail -I "X-message-flag: $MATCH" -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "In this business you either sink or swim or you don't."-- David Smith

RE: [SAtalk] Stupid Outlook (procmail) tricks revisited

2002-03-28 Thread Michael Moncur
lient (elm?) would have this ability. You could always turn on subject-munging and include the Hits in the subject - any mail client should be able to sort by that, although it might consider "10" lower than "6" due to alphabetic rather than numeric sorting. -- michael monc

RE: [SAtalk] help exploiting formmail to black list

2002-03-28 Thread Michael Moncur
ight". However, if I > use telnet and try to GET or POST it, I'm told it doesn't exist. If anyone's worried about legal action against SpamAssassin, this is probably just the sort of post that we should keep off this list... -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com

SpamAssassin for Hire - was RE: [SAtalk] In need of very basic HELP

2002-04-02 Thread Michael Moncur
is) would be greatly appreciated. I'll probably be ready to deploy it sometime next month. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "In this business you either sink or swim or you don't."-- David Smith ___

SpamAssassin for Hire - was RE: [SAtalk] In need of very basic HELP

2002-04-02 Thread Michael Moncur
is) would be greatly appreciated. I'll probably be ready to deploy it sometime next month. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "In this business you either sink or swim or you don't."-- David Smith ___

RE: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Michael Moncur
y 5-6 during the last month. P.S. The message that scored 45.8 was a genuine "My wife Jody" message and scored on Razor and a bunch of network tests too - none of my custom rules affected that one. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Nobody ca

[SAtalk] IFRAME src=cid again

2002-04-04 Thread Michael Moncur
I know this really shouldn't be SpamAssassin's job since it's used more by virii than by spam, but has anyone had any luck specifically detecting iframe src=cid tags? Here's my current rule that tries to do so: rawbody VIRUS_IFRAME_CID /http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Nobody ca

RE: [SAtalk] IFRAME src=cid again

2002-04-04 Thread Michael Moncur
> I think the problem is you need to escape the <. I tried adding a \ before the < and will see if it helps - I can't test this since any test message I send works fine with the current regex, it's only the actual virii that slip through. < isn't anything special

RE: [SAtalk] IFRAME src=cid again

2002-04-04 Thread Michael Moncur
hecked in): > > test VIRUS_IFRAME_CID ok [iframe src="cid:blah";] But the test will match my rule just fine just like your message did, right? Since it's not encoded in any way? (changed the <> in test above to avoid hitting the rule again) -- michael moncur mgm

RE: [SAtalk] auto-whitelist

2002-04-04 Thread Michael Moncur
the whitelist isn't stored in the database. If it's just stored in path/username, where username is the user passed to spamc to look up preferences, that would be fine. I may try to get a true SQL-based whitelist working myself when I have some time. -- michael moncur mgm at starlin

RE: [SAtalk] I think this may be a new guy out here

2002-04-16 Thread Michael Moncur
BJECT /LEAVE in the subject line/ describe LEAVE_SUBJECT Spam unsubscribe (LEAVE) score LEAVE_SUBJECT 2.5 The vast majority of their messages do NOT have CC in the subject, so so much for that one. They also tend to be otherwise low-scoring spam. -- michael moncur

RE: [SAtalk] What's wrong with this rule?

2002-04-16 Thread Michael Moncur
d =~ for header tests: header SA_TALK List-Id =~ /.*spamassassin\-talk/ BTW, why not just do this? all_spam_to [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's what I do. (whitelist_to just doesn't remove enough points to let some of the messages on this list through) -- michael moncur

RE: [SAtalk] Latest scores oddities

2002-04-19 Thread Michael Moncur
EMOVED_REPLY-2.150 score TO_UNSUB_REPLY -1.996 score WEB_BUGS -0.823 score X_MSMAIL_PRIORITY_HIGH -1.356 -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Women who seek to be equal with men lack ambition." -- Tim

[SAtalk] bug 227: triplets.txt?

2002-04-20 Thread Michael Moncur
triplets.txt I have is in the CVS distribution directory. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Inform all the troops that communications have completely broken down." -- Ashleigh Brilliant ___

RE: [SAtalk] false positive

2002-04-21 Thread Michael Moncur
se that slip through would have been caught with a threshold of 5.0 anyway. I haven't had a false positive in about a month, but I do have to carefully whitelist mailing lists and vendor mail. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "It is better to ha

RE: [SAtalk] bug 227: triplets.txt?

2002-04-22 Thread Michael Moncur
les/triplets.txt" to simply "triplets.txt" in the Makefile and make install worked fine. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "I always wanted to be somebody, but I should have been more specific.&

RE: [SAtalk] Text as images

2002-04-25 Thread Michael Moncur
'm no perl wizard. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "I have learned to use the word `impossible' with the greatest caution." -- Wernher von Braun > On Thursday 25 Apr 2002 4:34 pm, Sean Harding wrote: > > On Thu Apr

RE: [SAtalk] Another false positive

2002-04-29 Thread Michael Moncur
number Wasn't ORDER_STATUS supposed to be a negative-scoring rule? -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "We forfeit three-fourths of ourselves to be like other people." -- Arthur Schopenhauer ___

RE: [SAtalk] [PATCH] DCC Support for SA

2002-04-30 Thread Michael Moncur
ncreased much over the current 2.0, though, since DCC is really a measure of "bulkness" rather than spammishness, and without a good whitelist it could lead to false positives. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "We forfeit three-fourths

[SAtalk] More Spanish spam fodder

2002-04-30 Thread Michael Moncur
e las normativas Internacionales sobre SPAM, un E-mail no podrá ser considerado SPAM mientras incluya una forma de ser removido. Si usted no desea recibir más de estos emails por favor haga click AQUÍ -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "We forfeit three-

RE: [SAtalk] Scam Warning! Please read. (fwd)

2002-05-01 Thread Michael Moncur
ddy and register.com to custom addresses now... (I also use addresses like this to register at untrusted web sites - not for authentication, but to know who to blame and which address to convert to a spamtrap if I start getting spam.) -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starli

[SAtalk] Early DCC results

2002-05-01 Thread Michael Moncur
I've received from mailing lists during this time has been listed in DCC, although I'm sure this does happen with higher-volume lists. I'm going to raise the DCC score to 3.0 myself, since my threshold is 7.0 and I whitelist all of my mailing lists. This will supplement Razor nicely

RE: [SAtalk] (no subject)

2002-05-01 Thread Michael Moncur
essage from the pop-up item browser. I believe both of these methods also work in Outlook 97 but I could be wrong. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "We forfeit three-fourths of ourselves to b

RE: [SAtalk] Re: RATWARE rule and manual vs. GA scores

2002-05-01 Thread Michael Moncur
I ran some quick macros on the current RATWARE test and came up with the attached "20_ratware.cf" file with each mailer in its own rule. I haven't included scores - perhaps this could be thrown into the next GA run if it's worthwhile. -- michael moncur mgm at sta

RE: [SAtalk] Re: RATWARE rule and manual vs. GA scores

2002-05-01 Thread Michael Moncur
Perhaps a count higher than 3 would be better? Second, the @porn_words Daniel posted doesn't include all of the words that PORN_3 does. It's missing everything from, er, "whore" to "titties" in the current CVS. I'm sure it's better than the current PORN_3 regar

RE: [SAtalk] Re: RATWARE rule and manual vs. GA scores

2002-05-02 Thread Michael Moncur
gs over the threshold. Perhaps after testing it might be good to have a separate LOTS_OF_PORN_3 rule that checks for a higher number... -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "We forfeit three-fourths

RE: [SAtalk] Re: RATWARE rule and manual vs. GA scores

2002-05-02 Thread Michael Moncur
e. This is not necessarily a bad thing but the threshold should definitely be something larger than 3. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "We forfeit three-fourths of ourselves to be like other people." -- Arthur Schopenhauer

RE: [SAtalk] Re: Ick Viruses!

2002-05-04 Thread Michael Moncur
ad an optional eval rule that calls FPROT or sophos or another easily available, regularly updated virus scanner. Heck, there's even an open-source one in development: http://www.openantivirus.org/ -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "The ships hun

RE: [SAtalk] rule for IMG

2002-05-05 Thread Michael Moncur
th a lot of email clients, the second you make *any* font change -- > italics, color, bolding -- it becomes an HTML message. I believe the "HTML check" in question is a check for Content-type: text/html ONLY. Outlook, in particular, always includes a text version in a multiple-part messa

RE: [SAtalk] AWL verses early-terminate

2002-05-05 Thread Michael Moncur
occasions where the AWL causes false negatives. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "The ships hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don't." -- Douglas Adams

RE: [SAtalk] Microsloth Outlook ...

2002-05-09 Thread Michael Moncur
t looks like it. I don't know why this is missing from the right-click menu. I personally use a special IMAP mailbox to report spam. I move the spam to that folder, and a cron job grabs it every few minutes, runs spamassassin -r on it, and returns it to my spam archive folder. -- m

[SAtalk] RE: [SAdev] RFC: blacklist_to, and execution order

2002-05-09 Thread Michael Moncur
;t use whitelist_to because a score of 6.0 isn't enough to completely "opt out". Have you considered that SA in its default configuration is an "opt in" system anyway? Since it marks messages and doesn't filter them, you could run it sitewide and let users o

RE: [SAtalk] Problem with current CVS version

2002-05-11 Thread Michael Moncur
Same here. Appears to be a typo - here's the fix: Line 81: if ($self->{conf}->{check_mx_attempts) < 1) { Should be: if ($self->{conf}->{check_mx_attempts} < 1) { -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Research is the process

RE: [SAtalk] updating GA scores

2002-05-13 Thread Michael Moncur
If they're all coming from a similar source (i.e. a mailing list) you might be better off whitelisting rather than changing scores. If you're getting false positives with really high scores, you might let us know which rules they're hitting, as the rules might need work. -

RE: [SAtalk] Weird false negative...

2002-05-15 Thread Michael Moncur
m, @paypal.com, and @amazon.com addresses are becoming all too common in spam... -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Research is the process of going up alleys to see if they are blind."

RE: [SAtalk] Weird false negative...

2002-05-15 Thread Michael Moncur
too, but I doubt spammers bother. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "My sources are unreliable, but their information is fascinating." -- Ashleigh Brilliant ___ Have bi

RE: [SAtalk] Weird false negative...

2002-05-15 Thread Michael Moncur
me as whitelist_from but can have its own score, and use default_whitelist_from in 60_whitelist.cf. That way (a) anyone can turn off the default whitelist with a single score entry in a preference file, and (b) spam reports will refer to the "default whitelist" so it's easy to diag

[SAtalk] ADVERT_CODE needs help

2002-05-24 Thread Michael Moncur
DVERT_CODE Subject =~ /(?:^\s*|\s+|\[)(?:ADV|cc)[:\]]/i describe ADVERT_CODESubject: contains advertising tag This would also catch the "cc:" that many spam subjects start with. I see more of these than ADV: these days. -- michael moncur mgm at sta

RE: [SAtalk] ADVERT_CODE needs help

2002-05-24 Thread Michael Moncur
EAVE_SUBJECT Spam unsubscribe (LEAVE) score LEAVE_SUBJECT 2.5 I don't recommend them for SA in general since they're only matched by one spammer who are bound to change their name (again) before too long. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com

RE: Removing rules with negative score? (Was: Re: [SAtalk] WEB_BUGS tests a negative?)

2002-05-26 Thread Michael Moncur
O_BE_REMOVED_REPLY 0 # -2.150 score TO_UNSUB_REPLY0 # -1.996 score WEB_BUGS 2.0 # -0.823 score X_MSMAIL_PRIORITY_HIGH0 # -1.356 -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "

RE: [SAtalk] Bad numbering in this version

2002-05-27 Thread Michael Moncur
ore or less random score because there weren't many non-spam ebay questions in the corpus. There certainly isn't a single spam message with "Question for seller" in the subject in my archive of the last 5,000 spams I've received. -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.co

RE: [SAtalk] stopping headers where to: and from: are not part of my domain

2002-05-28 Thread Michael Moncur
e this (in Outlook) as my only spam protection and it caught 90% of spam, but then the spammers got smart and it stopped working very well at all. That's when I switched to SpamAssassin... -- michael moncur mgm at starlingtech.com http://www.starlingtech.com/ "I have often depend

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