ent?
>
>
>
Just came to my mind: what about some modern music which has the habit of
not printing pauses, so
there are single staves scattered around the page. This is not Beethoven,
sure, but it would
nicely show how to do something like that. Is there any t
the defined papers are in
paper.scm, so you can look there and take it as an example.
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or ancient: it is too much built on
the assumption that a note takes space according to its duration and not
only according to its real extent.
Maybe Joe has an answer...
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eyolf wrote:
>
> What would be the setting to let notes be spaced without regard for the
> correspond
Hi,
am I right guessing that it would be then the Text_engraver to make markups
with staff changes possible?
Till
Valentin Villenave wrote:
>
> 2007/11/6, Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Sounds like the same problem as
>> http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/iss
- if it is really too big, we
should consider offering some of the parts still seperate (and put the
tarball link next to the download link for the single document).
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Ok, I got now success with this approach: bor the second bug, 506, just add
the following lines:
\context {
\Voice
\remove "Text_engraver"
}
\context {
\PianoStaff
\consists "Text_engraver"
}
}
and the beaming indeed works. I was surprised to see that the bug was fixed
by J
знаю, на что надо посмотреть.
\selectlanguage{english}
And without:
Что-то здесь не то, но я точно еще не знаю, на что надо посмотреть.
ぎ
\end{document}
%end file
Greetigns
Till
kaputnik wrote:
>
>
>> Indeed, the use of `latex' is hard-coded currently. While lambda is
to the black vertical
bar in a print from within evince. When printing with kpdf this problem
dissappeares. (The bar lines are still a bit thicker than the horizontal
lines, but it looks as if this is intended.)
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I started liking very much the system-count funktion, you just give it the
number of systems you want and it fits the music to it (if it is not too
tight).
Greetings
Till
Graham Percival-2 wrote:
>
> Try reading the section called "Fitting music onto fewer pages". I
> thin
also invisible, with a \once \override to make the first clef visible again.
Till
Don Blaheta wrote:
>
> Quoth Mats Bengtsson:
>> Don Blaheta wrote:
>> > I'm setting a bunch of plainchant stuff in more or less modern
>> > notation, so it uses modern no
Thanks. We'll have to remember to mention it also when work is upon the
spacing chapters.
till
Trevor Daniels wrote:
>
>
> Till Rettig wrote on 03 December 2007 19:41
>
>> I would hope somebody could also add the missing
>> information to the
>> StaffS
aphics{xyz}... This means lilypond-book calls lilypond to create
images that latex will include in the text.
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I have never heard of iss or ess in German either, but I didn't find it on
the pdf anymore, so I guess this is irrelevant for now. The current
formulation seems to be correct.
Till
Rune Zedeler wrote:
>
> Citat Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> - In Accide
as to be done a similar
way by removing the Bar_number_engraver from the score and putting it into
the staves.
Should this be added to the example, or find a mentioning in the section
about bar numbers? Or would you like it as a snippet?
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don't insert a blank line in
between.
In the guidelines for Doc writers to Lilypond this is called "vertiacal
compression"
for what ever reason. To me it just does what I want: that the next
paragraph doesn't
get indented. For what reason is there the "compression" mentioned
gmx.de, I can introduce
you
to all the technical stuff that is involved in the translation.
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James E. Bailey-2 wrote:
>
>
> The new documentation is almost all translated.
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/index.de.html
>
>
>
>
Hmm, there is no *new* documentation -- it's the old one from before
the GDP, just the order of the sections is changed. The headings are
tra
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source code in the parmesan files inside the mf folder of the source code.
You will want to read some information on metafont thought, before you start
redefining them, there is an online tutorial mftut.pdf and the sources of
the metafont book: mfbook.tex They can give you a start.
I have the
Hi Graham,
I am interested in a try. You can probably tell about my English and if it
is even helpful if I mess everything up, but if you think it would help I
will start looking at 1.6 Staff notation.
Greetings
Till
Graham Percival-2 wrote:
>
> GDP website:
> http://web.uvic.ca/
manually
inside the cadenza. I guess lilypond has a minimal extent for a bar which it
then starts adding until the line is full -- so if this minimal extent could
be set to zero we also could have invisible barlines to make autmatic page
breaking possible.
Greetings
Till
Han-Wen Nienhuys-5 wrote
Mats Bengtsson-4 wrote:
>
>
>
> till wrote:
>>
>> 2. There is a lot of threads here on the list. You can play with all
>> sorts
>> of spacing but nothing is yet really convincing. The most simple
>> workaround
>> appears to be to scale
Is it that
it is easier to correct typesetting errors in Finale?
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tion in this way between oktaavi (Octave) and
oktaava (Ocatvation ?). I guess the word is taken from the italian/latin
origin.
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se of the fixed spacing issue in 2.10?
I would propose either to
-insert the instrument_engraver per default in the GrandStaff or
-remove the PianoStaff and insert the instrument_engraver in the GrandStaff.
Is this possible?
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ere a workaround for that? Like stopping the staves, inserting white
space, calling possibly staff brackets/braces again and start the staves
again?
Till wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> a user at lilypondforum.de asked how to stop a staff group and start a
> new one after a short white space with a
r did you have some automated
method?
Greetings
Till
Karl Hammar wrote:
>
> I tried another way of "using" lilypond-book, which seems to work
> better with tex, bibtex, makeindex, ..., -- and makefiles.
>
> If you are interested, read the README at
>
>
triche-layout" which is now also as a snippet in staff.
Greetings
Till
Trevor Daniels wrote:
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> Grand Documentation Project
>
> The latest draft of the proposed section headings for the reorganisation
> of
> NR 2 is now posted on http://web.uvic.ca/~gperciva/NR2-dr
://tug.ctan.org/pub/tex-archive/info/MiKTeX+Ghostscript+GSview+USB-drive-HOWTO.txt
Here they use indeed regedit to modify the registry -- you just have to redo
the changes before finishing the session.
Till
Valentin Villenave wrote:
>
> 2008/4/12 Ben Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
&g
, since the ancient chapter is so special, well, maybe
it would be useful to have some very basic stuff still explicitly
mentioned...
Till
Damian leGassick wrote:
>
> i think you need:
>
> \override NoteHead #'duration-log = #1
>
> d
>
> On 10 Apr 2008, at 05:4
Should this be on the web?
Till
Valentin Villenave wrote:
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> 2008/4/11 Wilbert Berendsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> LilyKDE 0.5.0 has been released[1].
>
> Nice -- just in time for the "LilyPond Report"!
>
> Attached is a fr.p
Please add a new example, please don't remove the bar line from the existing
example because this is used in the docs and even if it shows two different
things at a time, I think they both are wanted together, so I would like
them to come together.
Till
Neil Puttock wrote:
>
&g
. Thanks.
>
> -Chris Snyder
>
Wow, this looks great, I tried also to compile some time ago but was not
willing to install all the compiling stuff for kde, since I have gnome. But
some kde4 libraries I can afford. Did you include all the correct
dependences? I will try it in the ne
dy have
a quick idea how to improve the snippet to allow multiple bracketed
passages?
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se I have been told you should make a site for a resolution of
800x600 still readable, I guess you would really need much scrolling
with this kind of screen. (this is a bit ot for me since I don't have
such a screen, though)
This observation I made on kainhofer.com today.
Th
s this have to be there? On this small
screen it eats up a relatively big space.
Are you using Firefox 2 (or a browser that uses Gecko 1.8)? Because
this is a known issue for those browsers.
Ok, so that's the reason, indeed under Firefox 3 it doesn't h
sed when an extent
> > is being indicated.
>
> I have the same impression (choir music).
ok, one more from me :-)
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Thanks, this is about what I figured out also, but what I need would be
"\override Score . LyricText #'font-shape = #'italic re \revert Score .
LyricText #'font-shape mi"
that is: both syllables to one note! And as you can try, it just prints
everything verbatim
into braces, so I used the version stated down.
Trevor Daniels schrieb:
Hi Till
This gets close to what you want, I think:
...
%Skip zu Klammer vier
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
\markup {\concat { \bold "(4.) " rak }} -- ka -- ut -- ta suu -- rin
-- ta kat -- so -- maan.
}
...
Trevor
Than
cient music. At least the headword from the ancient section could be
here, when the spacing issue is solved.
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don't understand this
passage. Why is it suddenly a fifth and not a fourth anymore?
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ok, this sounds resonable, I just didn't understand the passage. So to
say: within a fifth means that it can be a second, third, and fourth,
but not a fifth.
Thanks for the explanations.
Till
Valentin Villenave wrote:
2007/5/12, Till Rettig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hi,
while tr
"2.11.23"
\relative c'' { c1 {
\set afterGraceFraction = #(cons 2 4)
\afterGrace d1 { c16[ d] } c4} }
\layout {
ragged-right = ##t
}
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Well, I would like to, but I don't get this working yet. The line
\set afterGraceFraction = #(cons 2 4)
is obviously not correct in this form.
Graham Percival wrote:
I'm always willing to replace examples in the documentation; please
send me a better example.
Cheers,
- Graham
T
John Mandereau wrote:
Le jeudi 17 mai 2007 à 16:42 +0300, Till Rettig a écrit :
this is my minimal example:
\version "2.11.23"
\relative c'' { c1 {
Why do you use a brace after c1? It is more confusing than useful.
Yes, you are right, i wanted to c
volta and go directly to the second, and suddenly
I have one beat too much
in my music. What kind of convention is this meant to be?
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ng the definitions from there, e.g.
\override Staff.Accidental #'style = #'vaticana or mensural or medicaea
or hufnagel
doesn't show any effect. I don't even get any warning that some property
is not found or anything like that.
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partial measure doesn't affect the repeat."
But then -- as I wrote this it appeared to me that this is nothing new
nor extra, so would it be better to skip the whole
example, because it doesn't introduce anything new?
Till
John Mandereau wrote:
Le samedi 19 mai 2007 à 12:18 +0300,
ly?
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What do you think about putting a message into the news on the lilypond
home page about this new German user space?
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e be changed,
not everything is about "decoration", there are some really important
things. Would it be something like "polishing", "finishing" or the like?
Sorry for writing so confused, I hope it is still understandable. It's
mainly just some thoughts...
Gre
emed to be so
mathematical to me. Actually it wasn't hard guessing the tuplet meaning, probably being
used to it from the Finale manual some years ago... but I hadn't heard of the word Tuplet
before.
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ord...
Should we find out a new LP name for that thing?
I am fine with the English name of the thing, as it is intuitiv (at
least to me) and somewhat spread
among English speakers.
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translations are not too difficult to find (in the
other languages...).
If some German speaking has ideas on the translation I will see to
intergrate them...
Greetings
Till
Graham Percival wrote:
Should we add "extender line" to the glossary? Is this a real musical
term, or a made-up lil
Hi, what is happening here? The first bar shows the version that a want,
the second then adds some markup text -- and screws the rest totally up!
Greetings
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%%
%EXAMPLE
%%
\version "2.11.33"
u = { \change Staff = upper \stemDown \slurDown }
m = { \change Sta
ppeared somehow logical to me to use ChoirStaff for that two. But if we
have it well enough documentated, we could have a VocalStaff and a
ChoirStaff with different spacing.
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d by x-extent. But x-extent is missing.
I would really much like to know the numbers that are used for the
default so I can increase/decrease them accordingly.
Why is the lyout-set-staff-size by the way changing only font size,
while global-layout-set-staff-size works correct
ation.
Greetings
Till
Trevor Daniels schrieb:
Hi Till
Here's a clue that might help:
% Reduce notes and staff
fontSize = #-2
\override StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #(magstep -2)
This reduces the size of the notes and the distance between the staff lines to
ma
1 sends
to an uncomplete
documentation. The property staff-space is not explained here. I thought
Y-extent might be of
help, but it is in turn explained by x-space which again is missing from
the list. Who has the
knowledge to fix this?
Greetings
Till
Graham Percival schrieb:
What are we supposed
page layout. It would then also be possible
to refer to that chapter from the LM.
Till
Trevor D
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To: Graham Perciv
Hi,
this is what I thought also, but yes, you will probably have to count it
for each score again (and also when scaling the notes?).
Copied also to user.
Greetings
Till
Stefan Slapeta schrieb:
Two first approaches (\context {\Staff ... } ):
\override InstrumentName #'self-alig
Mats Bengtsson schrieb:
till wrote:
Hi,
I just read a bit further in the GDP and saw this example about
polymetric
music where each note has still the same duration, so the barlines
won't be
on the same vertical position. Because Lilypond can't count the bars
anymore, it won
nd it could be
added. If you'd like a real example I can submit one of the
transcriptions I'm doing when I finish.
That would be great. Will they be on mutopia, by the way?
Ben
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ext into it. So I could even
imagine still a new subsection:
1.6.3 Additions to specific staves
1.6.3.1 tempo indication
1.6.3.2 metronome mark
1.6.3.3 instrument name
1.6.4 Adding context to a single part
1.6.4.1 quoting
1.6.4.2
is (at least to others than English native speakers) more
understandable? So the context would be called PianoStaff in 1.6.1 but I
would also mention that there is a GrandStaff context?
So far I have understood that they are both equal. Is this true?
Greetings
Till
Mats Bengtsson schrieb:
Quoting Till Rettig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Hi,
I just noticed that the staff contexts of the examples in 1.1.3.5 are
PianoStaff. In 1.6 there is only mentioned GrandStaff. Which one is
the preferred one to be used? I would mention both in 1.6, but I
think we
Trevor Daniels schrieb:
Hi Till
Might the tempo indication and metronome marks be better placed in the Rhythm
section? If you think so let me know, as I'm working on Rhythms right now.
Trevor D
Hi,
I think we should leave it as it is, after all it is nothing to do with
_ry
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> Datum: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:46:42 +0200
> Von: "Risto Vääräniemi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> An: till <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> CC: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Betreff: Re: GDP: What term do you use?
> On 28/02/2008, till wrote:
&g
could be nice in the template section of the LM. I only cannot add
it myself to lsr, because it is not a "lilypond" snippet.
How are the lilypond-book templates handled, are they added also from lsr?
Greetings
Till
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{ifxetex}
\ifxetex
%xetex spec
ount = #4
\set Staff.clefGlyph = #"clefs.F"
\set Staff.middleCPosition = #6
\set Staff.clefPosition = #2
\set Staff.clefOctavation = #0
%\clef bass
\lower
}
>>
}
But it doesn't change the position of the notes or the clefs. What is
and 1.
so you can't obviously use the \clef command with setting that way? Does
it read the defaults from engraver-init.ly?
Till
Trevor Daniels schrieb:
I'm not sure what you mean. It works as expected when
I try this in 2.11.34. You ask for a staff of four
lines, with middl
e also has
"incipits" longer than one line so I don't know how they would behave --
I guess this is not possible.
There is probably an easy solution, who knows it?
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Thanks,
I remember this discussion, it also appeared to me that there might be
some solution, but I thought maybe there would be another easier way
like just letting the following score begin in the same line.
I will check out the incipit issue.
Greetings
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Mats Bengtsson schrieb:
As far as
edger-line-thickness = #' ( .1 . .1 )
}{
d d d d
} }
\score{
\new Staff \with {
\override StaffSymbol #' ledger-line-thickness = #' ( 1 . 1 )
}{
d d d d
} }
What am I missing here? How is this supposed to work?
I was on 2.11.34, if it matters.
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> Datum: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:32:51 +0200
> Von: Reinhold Kainhofer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> An: lilypond-user@gnu.org, "till Rettig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Betreff: Re: StaffSymbol: behaviour of ledger-line-thickness
>
' ( 6 3 0 -3 -6 )
}{
d' e' f' g' c''
} }
In my idea the second example should print wider spaces and set the notes
somhow off the lines, but it just prints the standard lines 4 2 0 -2 -4. Why is
this so?
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Oops, yeah, you are right, it works as thought; I just didn't understand
the warning. Thanks!
Till
Mats Bengtsson schrieb:
If you check the warning printouts from LilyPond when processing the
second example, you will notice that you have misspelled the property
name!
Otherwise, both o
Oh, that's true, I will write this in the staff section of the Docu.
Thanks for all the help!
Greetings
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Mats Bengtsson schrieb:
The properties of a layout object are only read when the object is
created, so
for StaffSymbol, for example, this means that you have to do the
setting a
ioned on an even number of half staff space positions, so it
would'nt be anymore symmetrical.
Can you add it to the bug tracker?
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{
\override StaffSymbol #' line-positions = #' ( 18 12 2 0 -2 -4 )
}{
d d d d
}
Thanks
Till
Valentin Villenave schrieb:
2008/4/1, Till Rettig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
About the bug: I thought I would write: this works only with symmetrical
staff lines. As I understand eve
chant
5.4 Musica ficta
5.4.1 Suggested accidentals (new) (2.8.4)
Something like that, please reformulate as you like, I am really bad in
creating headings.
Greetings
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> - Ursprüngliche Nachricht -
> Von: Trevor Daniels
> Gesendet: 06.04.08 21:59 Uhr
> An: Till, l
Trevor Daniels schrieb:
Till Rettig wrote
Hi, this would be my suggestion for the ancient section:
8.5 Transcription of ancient music
5.1 using the same source for the original and the transcription [Here
among others the snippets about reducing note length]
5.2 Incipits and Mensurstriche
Trevor Daniels schrieb:
Thanks Till
Would "Ancient and modern from one source" cover it. I can't think of
anything shorter.
I am fine with that one.
Anyone else any better suggestions?
Trevor
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Hi
Karl Hammar wrote
Trevor Daniels wrote
Karl Hammar wrote
Till:
8.5 Transcription of ancient music
Why not call it "Editing" or "Making an edition", but transcription is
also fine.
I think we'll stick with "Trans
8.3 there will be "White mensural ligatures"
and then in 8.6 the "Ligature brackets"? Sounds good to me.
Many thanks to you and Karl.
Thanks for your work as well!
Karl - if you meant something different by "slurs", let me know and
in the NR.
Actually Graham has pronounced that we should not have a task-orientated
structure, but just tell about the issues not referring to the context
they are used to. But maybe it is still ok in this case.
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t; \tenor >>
>>
\midi {\tempo 4=60 }
\layout {
}
}
It doesn't happen, when I don't make this predefinition of the voices
but insert one after the other into the \score directly via \new Staff
-command. But I actually would like to keep this definition as it makes
files
Thank you, that helped immedeately!
Greetings
Till
Mats Bengtsson schrieb:
First of all, I would recommend you to upgrade to the latest stable
version, 2.8. There are installation packages available for download
at www.lilypond.org for almost all operating systems.
I just tried your example
?
Greetings
Till
Example-file:
%%%Lily-file%%%
\version "2.8.4"
sopran = { \time 4/4 a b a c f g fis e d c g a d2 c e c }
alt = { \time 3/4 a4 b a c f g \time 4/4 e2 b d f \time 3/4 a4 b a c g f }
\score {
\new ChoirStaff = Chor
\relative <<
\context Voice = sopran {\sopran \sopran
;Black mensural notation", used until the
15th century in central Europe. I don't have much knowledge about font
design at the moment, but would be glad if someone could point out where
I could find some basics so I could start some drawing if this feature
is welcomed.
Gr
This sounds like a good start. Does the translation so far only concern
the webpage, or is there also some (of course now older) documentation
translated?
Well I will try to sort out my way on this...
Greetings
Till
Till Rettig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Hi Till,
a while
really (and in my opinion also *should*) be used in commercial notation
work. So for instance I would change forms into passive or then from
second singular to second plural. This might reduce the "coolness" of
the product, but adds a lot of trust in my opinion.
greetings
translated some part with
utf8-encoding, opened it in my browser, but despite the mention of utf8
in the header the browser used its own default which was at that moment
latin1. As I guess this is in most browsers in western Europe the
default it would just bring wrong results. Would it then be mor
Ok, so here comes the de.po-file (which is yet not compatible with my
translation, since that is called new-de)
Till
# nl.po -- LilyPond Dutch website language file
# Copyright (C) 2005 Jan Nieuwenhuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tineke de munnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
# Jan Nieuwenhu
as not sure -- would it be clever to leave the
original and translate it. And how about statements from Germans -- were
they sent in English or are they already translations?
Greetings Till
Benutzung der automatischen Sprachauswahl
Damit die Sprache automatisch ausgewählt wird, muss die
St
orial only online in the other language, even though there
would be some strange language shift if going to the next chapter?
Well, so far
Cheers, Till
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t I added today with this git-add and git commit --
should I make a tarball mirroring the directory-structure, but only
containing the new files or how is it best to send them?
I'm really sorry that I make things so complicated. Hope I will
understand this git sometimes, so I can then rea
g auf deutsch - 31. Dezember 2006
Die LilyPond-Webseiten sind jetzt auch auf deutsch übersetzt!
Hope this is sufficient. Thank you!
Till
PS: I got a lot of unresolved messages about all the files I sent in the
patches: they got somehow saved with another name and the new version
came fro
Ok, I checked again the wiki pages and made a new version of my local
git repository, and finally I got the right commitish and could add
changes! Here is the patch!
Till
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