KR> WAF CAD files

2021-02-15 Thread costewart23 via KRnet
Good morning and Good evening depending on where you are.Does anyone have CAD files for the WAF they would like to share?Thanks,Chris Stewart KR1XLN2488C  Sent from my U.S.Cellular© Smartphone ___ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.co

KR> WAF replacement/fabrication

2016-01-19 Thread Dave Acklam
So, last year I bought a set of wings, as the ones I have are rather crudely built & need alot of work... I have the (apparently typical) problem of the bolt-holes WAFs from my new wings not lining up with the holes on the fuselage... My presently 'considered' solution, is to remove the wing-WAFs

KR> waf material

2013-11-13 Thread James Duff
places is just asking for mistakes IMHO. Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message From: jon kimmel List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date:13/11/2013 19:22 (GMT+00:00) To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> waf material The as5048 section shows 2.16 for in board.? Add two 3/32 webs

KR> waf material

2013-11-13 Thread jon kimmel
Damn spell check...snugging...the standard torque is around 20 inch pounds...if you go that high you will have some deformation...plus you will probably need to retorque after a little time. https://sites.google.com/site/mykr2stretch/ https://sites.google.com/site/mykr2stretch/parts-for-sale On No

KR> waf material

2013-11-13 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
At 01:47 PM 11/13/2013, you wrote: >I have one been using 4 inch wrenches and snugglingit happens. +++ Jon, Just who were you snuggling with using a 4 inch wrench and what really happened? Second thought, lets not go there. Rulle # 3 in

KR> waf material

2013-11-13 Thread jon kimmel
I have one been using 4 inch wrenches and snugglingit happens. https://sites.google.com/site/mykr2stretch/ https://sites.google.com/site/mykr2stretch/parts-for-sale On Nov 13, 2013 1:45 PM, "jon kimmel" wrote: > After thinking a little more about it I have a theory...crushing was taken > int

KR> waf material

2013-11-13 Thread jon kimmel
After thinking a little more about it I have a theory...crushing was taken into account because the original kr didn't have a web on outboard...then the kr2 had a 12" web...then the kr2s had a full web. 2 webs would crush more than 1 so a little interference was built in...it just wasn't corrected

KR> waf material

2013-11-13 Thread jon kimmel
The as5048 section shows 2.16 for in board. Add two 3/32 webs and you get 2.3475. I measured mine and they came up to closer to 2.39...but the distance between the wafs was closer to 2.30...I had a little crushing. With the inboard and outboard thickness per plans the interference would be just 1

KR> waf material

2013-11-13 Thread ppaul...@aol.com
Where I'm getting my measurements from are from the AS5045 drawings. Not from the plans. The fwd center spar caps are 2.16". Add the web material you come up with 2.253". This would be the same for the outboard spar also. The AS5045 outboard spar is .22" wider. So I think it would be best

KR> waf

2013-11-13 Thread Phillip Matheson
That is interesting idea, In Australia the CASA (Civil Aviation Safety Authority) never liked the one bolt per each WAF( four bolts at side) I only have two 3/8 bolts a side with a thick walled 4130 spacer and the lot is locked up together. They also stopped us using the last two inches of the

KR> waf

2013-11-12 Thread PPaulVsk at aol.com
I'm using the AS5048 wing. Looking at the drawing, both are 2.16" on the front spar. In a message dated 11/12/2013 1:33:57 P.M. Central Standard Time, jersild4 at gmail.com writes: My KR-2S plans say the forward center spars are 2 and 5/32" wide from the top looking down. The forward out

KR> waf

2013-11-12 Thread Seth Jersild
My KR-2S plans say the forward center spars are 2 and 5/32" wide from the top looking down. The forward outer spars are 1 and 15/16" from the top looking down. So the outer wafs are designed to nestle inside the inner wafs snugly. -Seth On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Mark Langford wrote: >

KR> waf

2013-11-12 Thread Mark Langford
Paul Visk wrote: >>I'm seeing that the fwd center spar is 2.16" wide not including the plywood. >>The fwd outer spar is 2.16" also. Doesn't the outer spar need to be narrower >>for the waf to go inside the center spar waf? I know it does I'm just missing >>something. rk from Sprint! << They mu

KR> waf

2013-11-11 Thread ppaul...@aol.com
I'm seeing that the fwd center spar is 2.16" wide not including the plywood. The fwd outer spar is 2.16" also. Doesn't the outer spar need to be narrower for the waf to go inside the center spar waf? I know it does I'm just missing something. rk from Sprint!

KR> WAF

2012-11-20 Thread Gary Robison
Anyone have a set of wing attach fittings they want to part with? Please contact me off the list at djgaryl...@verizon.net TNX Gary

KR> WAF

2010-10-03 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
> >Has anyone used wing pins to attach the wings ? >Eric, >South Africa. _))) I'm not sure you could get the pin tight enough to eliminate any movement in the fitting which, over time, would erode the fitting and / or the

KR> WAF spacers

2010-10-03 Thread Robin Macdonald
I agree with you the spacer & one single bolt is stronger than the two bolts. The only problem is to start with this when you fit the WAFs to the spars, if the WAFs are slightly out of alignment you have a hellve job to get the bolt in without damaging the bolt or the WAF's . As there has neve

KR> WAF

2010-10-03 Thread Eric Evezard
Hi Netters, Has anyone used wing pins to attach the wings ?My sailplane has wing pins with small handles and thumb push buttons one end with ball bearings at the other.One simply presses the thumb button,the ball bearings retract,and the pin slides through the WAFs,Let go and it is locked.It tak

KR> WAF spacers

2010-10-03 Thread Mark Langford
Perhaps I should point out that the main reason I did the single bolt thing was so I could eliminate that unsightly at the WAFs and not have to access the nuts, although it is also the optimal way to do it (not that the single shear method hasn't worked just fine for 100% of the KRs built to dat

KR> WAF spacers/individual bolts

2010-10-03 Thread phillipmathe...@bigpond.com
I have been around this thing for a long time and this subject keeps coming up. I think that the consensus is that the single bolt, with spacer, is the -- Dan I use the single bolt, but what I did to make aliment easier was, I installed the was in

KR> WAF spacers/individual bolts

2010-10-03 Thread Dan Heath
I have been around this thing for a long time and this subject keeps coming up. I think that the consensus is that the single bolt, with spacer, is the way it should be done. However, I will bet that there are at least as many done with a bolt in each attachment as there are with the single bolt

KR> WAF spacers

2010-10-02 Thread Ronald Wright
Hi Mark, Did you use steel spacers; or would aluminum work or will it "crush" over time? Thanks, Ron --- On Sat, 10/2/10, Mark Langford wrote: > From: Mark Langford > Subject: KR> WAF spacers > To: "KRnet" > Date: Saturday, October 2, 2010, 9:30 PM

KR> WAF spacers

2010-10-02 Thread Glenn Martin
OK Guys..bear with me. the concept of the Experimental Aircraft program is for Personal Education, and I am certainly learning something I had not considered before. A slightly different way for me to view this is that the spacer between them tends to make the two separate WAFS act more like a

KR> WAF spacers

2010-10-02 Thread Mark Langford
OK, this isn't the greatest picture, but check out http://www.n56ml.com/900hour/100717140m.jpg . It shows a thin aluminum angle used to position a 3/8" nutplate for each WAF bolt, and one continuous WAF bolt for what was a place for two (in single shear). Astute viewers will notice there's to

KR> WAF spacers

2010-10-02 Thread Glenn Martin
Thank you Mark. With your info, I did a short Google search and came up with this article: http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/NutsandBolts/Nuts&Bolts_signed.pdf So the point is that with one bolt on each fitting, only that one fitting must lose friction in order to load its bolt in shear.

KR> WAF spacers

2010-10-02 Thread Pete
Thank you Mark. I was actually in the process of drawing up the WAF's in SolidWorks to illustrate the difference, but you nailed it right there. Cheers. Pete. On 3/10/2010 13:30, Mark Langford wrote: > Replacing the two bolts with one longer one and a spacer replaces two bolts > in single shear

KR> WAF spacers

2010-10-02 Thread Mark Langford
Replacing the two bolts with one longer one and a spacer replaces two bolts in single shear (not the best) with one bolt in double shear, which is far better. Although I knew it already, I relearned that lesson when I checked my flaps after 930 hours and found the oilite bushings elongated and

KR> WAF

2010-09-28 Thread joemals...@charter.net
patrick, I will look and see if I have another set. Joe. Patrick and Robin Russo wrote: > I need wing attach fittings for two aircraft. Before I begin making them; Is > any out there with a set for sale or trade? I have a set of Diehl wing skins > for the Horiz. Stab, elevator, Vert sta

KR> WAF

2010-09-28 Thread Patrick and Robin Russo
Emory, been trying to open that site but it does not work. Pat - Original Message - From: "Emory Luth" To: "KRnet" Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 11:18 AM Subject: Re: KR> WAF > > >> I need wing attach fittings for two aircraft. Before I begin

KR> WAF

2010-09-28 Thread Emory Luth
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Patrick and Robin Russo < patru...@myfairpoint.net> wrote: > I need wing attach fittings for two aircraft. Before I begin making them; > Is > any out there with a set for sale or trade? > Pat, You can get a set from nVAero, the current manufacturer and distribut

KR> WAF

2010-09-28 Thread Patrick and Robin Russo
I need wing attach fittings for two aircraft. Before I begin making them; Is any out there with a set for sale or trade? I have a set of Diehl wing skins for the Horiz. Stab, elevator, Vert stab and rudder that I would trade off. Pat Russo >

KR> Waf question I need help

2009-10-02 Thread jg7...@mindspring.com
I need your help , I hope I haven't permanently screwed up my front center spar, but while drilling the holes on the port side top waf the bottom 2, 3/16 holes got off track . Is there an acceptable way to correct this? Do I dowel it and re-drill the hole or flox it and re-drill? The allignment

KR> WAF Question

2009-09-22 Thread Mike
: 21 September 2009 20:29 To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> WAF Question mike the link does not work post again phill From: Mike To: KRnet Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 7:33:59 PM Subject: RE: KR> WAF Question Coincidently, this has just been published in t

KR> WAF Question: Bushings

2009-09-21 Thread Glenn Martin
Lee Van Dyke wrote: > You are over thinking it > > I have over 300 hours on my plane and have had the wings off twice. ( this > was for storage issues only) In retirement I intend to Trailer my plane around the US behind an RV. Removal of the wings will be a regular activity. Of course

KR> WAF Question: Bushings

2009-09-21 Thread Lee Van Dyke
You are over thinking it I have over 300 hours on my plane and have had the wings off twice. ( this was for storage issues only) I have looked at the inside of the WAF's to see no wear. STICK TO THE PLANS AND GET THE WINGS ON. Forget about any wear. Just make sure you have flying ti

KR> WAF Question

2009-09-21 Thread Mark Wegmet
nal Message- From: krnet-bounces+markwegmet=charter@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+markwegmet=charter@mylist.net] On Behalf Of phil brookman Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:29 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> WAF Question mike the link does not work post again phill __

KR> WAF Question

2009-09-21 Thread phil brookman
mike the link does not work post again phill From: Mike To: KRnet Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 7:33:59 PM Subject: RE: KR> WAF Question Coincidently, this has just been published in the UK, see last article & photo for a graphic example of how

KR> WAF Question: Bushings

2009-09-21 Thread Glenn Martin
I've been curious about this subject. Wouldn't the entire WAF arrangement benefit if the connecting bolt holes were oversized and then fitted with bushings (ie Bronze bushings)? This way, as the bushings wear out, we could just toss them and replace them with new ones! Also, the bushings would

KR> WAF Question

2009-09-21 Thread Mike
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Mark Langford Sent: 21 September 2009 17:57 To: jg7...@mindspring.com; KRnet Subject: Re: KR> WAF Question John wrote: > Just a quick question in the WAFs with the bolt holes at 3/16 and the AN3 > bolts at 3/16 do

KR> WAF Question

2009-09-21 Thread Mark Langford
I should have mentioned that one place to get reamers through the mail is http://www.mcmaster.com/#reamers/=3qadvq Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL mail: N56ML "at" hiwaay.net website: www.N56ML.com

KR> WAF Question

2009-09-21 Thread Mark Langford
John wrote: > Just a quick question in the WAFs with the bolt holes at 3/16 and the AN3 > bolts at 3/16 do I just force the bolt in the hole for an interference fit > or do I open it up to 13/64? No, don't open them up with a drill. Open them up to exactly what they need to be with a reamer f

KR> WAF Question

2009-09-21 Thread jg7...@mindspring.com
Just a quick question in the WAFs with the bolt holes at 3/16 and the AN3 bolts at 3/16 do I just force the bolt in the hole for an interference fit or do I open it up to 13/64? John jg7...@mindspring.com EarthLink Revolves Around You.

KR> WAF and Spar Testing

2009-04-23 Thread sidney.w...@l-3com.com
At the 2008 Gathering, who had the WAF and Spar testing rig with the massive I-beam and jack? Is the jack calibrated for pounds force and the rig still available? I have acquired an early KR-2 project with materials to build a wing spar. A set of main spar WAFs are also needed. Perhaps we can r

KR> WAF cad files

2008-10-12 Thread Hennie van Rooyen [HQP]
Hi Dave, Won't you please do the same for me? I'm ready to have mine made now. hennie.vanroo...@kumbaresources.com Regards, Hennie "I just forwarded my WAF Files to Chris." - This e-mail is confidential

KR> WAF

2008-10-12 Thread Dan Heath
It doesn't really matter, but keep in mind, those G numbers are at the design" weight. I read a long time ago, that the KR specs were +7 and -4 G. I agree, build to plans and you will save a lot of time and actually get to fly one some day. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the

KR> WAF cad files

2008-10-12 Thread Chris Johnston
Would anyone have a set of cad files for the WAFS in either DXF or DWG format for the water jet cutter. There is also a native format which the water cutter uses, which I am not familiar with, this would do also. Many many thanks if you can as this will save me a lot of time.

KR> WAF cad files

2008-10-12 Thread david mullins
I just forwarded my WAF Files to Chris. Dave Mullins Gathering Bound Nashua, New Hampshire www.KR2S.com Chris Johnston wrote: >Would anyone have a set of cad files for the WAFS in either DXF or DWG > format for the water jet cutter. There is also a native format which the > water cutter us

KR> WAF free wings

2008-10-12 Thread bearlk...@aol.com
I know there has been some speculative discussion on straight no WAF wings. Has anyone actually seen or built such a Kr subspecies variant? Bob Polgreen boat and parts Nowthen MN

KR> WAF free wings

2008-10-12 Thread Colin Rainey
net> -Original Message- From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On Behalf Of bearlk...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 10:17 PM To: kr...@mylist.net Subject: KR> WAF free wings I know there has been some speculative discussion on straight no WAF wings. H

KR> WAF free wings

2008-10-12 Thread bearlk...@aol.com
Colin, You are right about dihederal on all points. I may have been unclear in my post. I was wondering if anyone had done a wing in one piece per side loke an RV or AA1 with a dihederals at at the center. There are some spar thickness issues and dihederal angle issues which would need to be

KR> WAF

2008-10-12 Thread william Clapp
If I am correct - someone took a wing to 11 Gs of force in destructive testing and the spar broke in the middle of the fuselage - not at the WAFs. And 11 Gs is much better than the 3.5 Gs max rating of a Cessna 172.Yet people never ask if those wings will break. Build per plans and youll b

KR> WAF

2008-10-12 Thread Randy Smith
I believe Janet had an engineer test the wings about 15 yrs ago. At one of the gathering she attended she told use about it. The wing snapped before the wing attach fittings and I believe it was around 11 g's --- william Clapp wrote: > If I am correct - someone took a wing to 11 Gs of > force in

KR> waf. holes

2008-10-12 Thread steve
gentlemen, is it wise to drill all the holes in the outer rear spar fittings , then add the 3degree bend. or is it helpful to only drill the attachment holes that go into the timber, add the 3* bend, and wait till lining up the spars then drilling the pivot bolt hole? those in the know will u

KR> waf. holes

2008-10-12 Thread Don Chisholm
I've done it 2 ways now, the first was on my KR1 where I drilled all my holes first and then fitted everthing up and what happens is the holes through the outer spars are not in a 90 degree plane to the surface of the fitting when you bolt the center and outer fittings together and had to make

KR> waf. holes

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
Steve wrote: > gentlemen, is it wise to drill all the holes in the outer rear spar > fittings , then add the 3degree bend. or is it helpful to only drill > the attachment holes that go into the timber, add the 3* bend, and > wait till lining up the spars then drilling the pivot bolt hole? Bend

KR> WAF Plasma cutting

2008-10-12 Thread Chris Johnston
Richmond NSW Australia. - Original Message - From: "Brian Kraut" To: "KRnet" Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 1:23 PM Subject: RE: KR> WAF Plasma cutting >I am not a structural or materials engineer. I design electronic

KR> WAF Plasma cutting

2008-10-12 Thread Chris Johnston
I wasn't around the KR world in the beginning, so I am curious. In the > beginning, how did they do it? I always thought that you just cut them > out > on a band saw and drilled a couple of holes. Did Ken send his off to a > plasma or water jet cutter?

KR> WAF Plasma cutting

2008-10-12 Thread Fred Johnson
t] On Behalf Of Chris Johnston Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 3:40 PM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> WAF Plasma cutting The person in question imports metals for race cars, aircraft grade steel and aluminium tube, but sells a lot of material to the local home aircraft builder market, the loc

KR> WAF Plasma cutting

2008-10-12 Thread Larry&Sallie Flesner
At 05:50 PM 8/30/2006, you wrote: >Ken Rand was an aeronautical engineer, so he knew just what he could get >away with, > Chris Johnston I think Ken Rand was actually an electrical engineer and Stu Robinson was the aeronautical enginee

KR> WAF Plasma cutting / Manual cutting

2008-10-12 Thread VIRGIL N SALISBURY
Virgil has been in Miami for 64 Years, Virg Virgil N. Salisbury - AMSOIL www.lubedealer.com/salisbury Miami ,Fl

KR> WAF Plasma cutting / Manual cutting

2008-10-12 Thread Phil Matheson
Sorry guys Wrong button Was only meant for Dan!! Phillip Matheson 0408665880 (cell) VHPKR Australia. mathes...@dodo.com.au NEW WEB PAGE www.philskr2.50megs.com http://www.vw-engines.com/ OLD WEB PAGE http://mywebpage.netscape.com/flyingkrphil/VHPKR.html

KR> WAF Plasma cutting

2008-10-12 Thread Chris Johnston
AUSTRALIA. - Original Message - From: "Brian Kraut" To: "KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 12:03 PM Subject: RE: KR> WAF Plasma cutting > Absolutely not. Plasma cutting leaves a very hard edge. I have had > several > 4130 par

KR> WAF Plasma cutting

2008-10-12 Thread Brian Kraut
-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Larry H. Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 12:15 AM To: KRnet Subject: KR> WAF Plasma cutting Brian, I know someone who is making all of the 4130 fittings which includes wing attach for an aircraft mfg company. All of the parts a

KR> WAF Plasma cutting

2008-10-12 Thread Larry H.
lf Of Larry H. Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 12:15 AM To: KRnet Subject: KR> WAF Plasma cutting Brian, I know someone who is making all of the 4130 fittings which includes wing attach for an aircraft mfg company. All of the parts are being plasma cut by computer and then the parts are being tu

KR> WAF Plasma cutting

2008-10-12 Thread Bob Glidden
Wow You know it amazes me that people still don't know how to cut and paste on a email.I just returned from Michigan after nine days and had almost 400 emails most of which were like the one I just read.Why in the hell did 600 people need to know about somebody talking to a engineer? Why not sen

KR> WAF Plasma cutting

2008-10-12 Thread Dan Heath
I wasn't around the KR world in the beginning, so I am curious. In the beginning, how did they do it? I always thought that you just cut them out on a band saw and drilled a couple of holes. Did Ken send his off to a plasma or water jet cutter? I know, he bought them from RR. See N64KR

KR> WAF Plasma cutting

2008-10-12 Thread Scott William
I was interested in the discussion, so I'm glad they DIDN'T cut and paste it. I tend to LEARN from these discussions. I'd like to thank the posters for including the group in them. Scott --- Bob Glidden wrote: > Wow > You know it amazes me that people still don't know > how to cut and paste

KR> WAF Plasma cutting

2008-10-12 Thread Steve Glover
-Original Message- I tend to LEARN from these discussions. I'd like to thank the posters for including the group in them. Scott END >>> Scott, You can LEARN all you want by reading the previous e-mail. It is just plain lazy and

KR> WAF Plasma cutting

2008-10-12 Thread Larry H.
This question about WAFS has come up many times over the years. Plasma cutting has come up several times over the years. The ONLY reason I took the time to post anything at all was to help those who have recently asked about plasma cutting wafs. I know about it, I am familiar with it, my broth

KR> WAF Plasma cutting

2008-10-12 Thread Bob Glidden
Bob Glidden Eminence,Indiana KR2S N181FW (building) Corvair 110 glid...@ccrtc.com All I can say is that the bitchers that already know everything (who do not care about helping others) makes me not want to ever post anything at all. > Larry H. This email was a great example.We all get the sa

KR> WAF Plasma cutting

2008-10-12 Thread James c Ferris
Larry Your posts are some of best, keep on postings and leave it all in there, don't pay any attention to the bitching from those who rhink thay kmow it all. Like he said cutting and pasting is for the 5 to 8 year olds. Thanks Jim On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 07:56:42 -0700 (PDT) "Larry H." writes: > Th

KR> WAF Plasma cutting / Manual cutting

2008-10-12 Thread Phil Matheson
Dan wrote Did Ken send his off to a plasma or water jet cutter? -- You know you can ( or I did) get the 4130 WAF cut to width by the supplier, in lengths, then you only need to cut with bandsaw into correct length and drill and sand off all nicks etc, Takes a while but not hard, and nice to get

KR> WAF Plasma cutting / Manual cutting

2008-10-12 Thread Dan Heath
krnet@list.krnet.org Date: 08/26/06 21:16:30 To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> WAF Plasma cutting / Manual cutting Dan wrote Did Ken send his off to a plasma or water jet cutter? -- You know you can ( or I did) get the 4130 WAF cut to width by the supplier, in lengths, then you only need to cut with band

KR> WAF Plasma cutting / Manual cutting

2008-10-12 Thread Phil Matheson
YES I did get it and Laughed But I did add my bit so more people may think about making their own!! These are my USA trip plans, but double the days as we have tow packages booked. and dates not set, but will try for the 2008 Sun & FUN, 9 days and 8 nights in Central Florida which incl

KR> WAF Plasma cutting

2008-10-12 Thread Chris Johnston
Can you plasma cut the wafs without affecting the metal?? Are the tailplane hinge ply backup plates glued in place or just held on by the nuts and aluminium backup plates? The plans state the inner hinges have two bolts, does this mean the outer hinges have only one bolt per hing

KR> WAF Plasma cutting

2008-10-12 Thread Scott William
Although plasma cutting will not get the entire piece hot enough to affect the status of the metal, it will leave a hardened edge that can be difficult to deal with. Remember, the plasma cutter uses air to pushthe molten metal out of the groove, and that air quickly cools the heated cut edge, thus

KR> WAF Plasma cutting

2008-10-12 Thread Brian Kraut
inish the holes. Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -Original Message- From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Chris Johnston Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 6:56 AM To: KRnet Subject: KR> WAF Plasma cutting Can you plasma

KR> WAF Plasma cutting

2008-10-12 Thread Larry H.
6:56 AM To: KRnet Subject: KR> WAF Plasma cutting Can you plasma cut the wafs without affecting the metal?? Are the tailplane hinge ply backup plates glued in place or just held on by the nuts and aluminium backup plates? The plans state the inner hinges have two bolts, does this mean t

Re: Réf. : Re: KR> WAF Bolt Sheer Load

2008-10-12 Thread Donald Reid
At 04:19 AM 6/12/2006, you wrote: >Phil, what would the compression member look like exactly? > >A better design is to use one long bolt with a >compression member between the WAF pairs instead of paired short >bolts, placing the joint in a balance double shear. This is my >considered opinion as

KR> WAF Bolt Sheer Load

2008-10-12 Thread Wood, Sidney M (Titan) @ TITAN
I have built my Spars exactly as called out in the KR-2 plans using RR furnished parts. The wings are ready for finishing and painting. I am betting my life that the WAFs as installed will function long and well. I am trying to determine exactly how the WAFs function in relationship to the lumbe

KR> WAF Bolt Sheer Load

2008-10-12 Thread Wood, Sidney M (Titan) @ TITAN
The recent series of posts concerning Powder Coating for Wing Attach Fittings (WAF) have assumed that the 3/16 bolts have to fit snug in the steel WAF and the Spruce spars since the bolts are stressed in sheer. I read an explanation some years ago in the KR newsletters that the WAF are clamped

KR> WAF Bolt Sheer Load

2008-10-12 Thread airgu...@comcast.net
Cheese & crackers - all that math to prove the the thing works per plans if ya don't crash it. -- Paul KR2 Stretched Derry, NH . > My conclusion: There would be minimal sheer load on the AN bolts for KR WAFs. > Sid Wood

KR> WAF Bolt Sheer Load

2008-10-12 Thread Donald Reid
At 02:10 PM 6/9/2006, you wrote: >I read an explanation some years ago in the KR newsletters that the >WAF are clamped to the spars and generate their holding action by >friction. The 3/16 attach bolts are stressed primarily in tension >not in sheer. >Another newsletter article reported on KR-2

KR> WAF Bolt Sheer Load

2008-10-12 Thread Phil Matheson
A better design is to use one long bolt with a compression member between the WAF pairs instead of paired short bolts, placing the joint in a balance double shear. This is my considered opinion as a professional engineer. This is the requirement in Australia. Phil Matheso

KR> WAF Bolt Sheer Load

2008-10-12 Thread Ron Freiberger
This could be a good idea, if there was evidence of a problem, which there is NOT. Why is there an expectation that the WAF joint is a weak point? Ron Freiberger A better design is to use one long bolt with a compression member between the WAF pairs instead of paired short bolts, placing the j

KR> WAF Bolt Sheer Load

2008-10-12 Thread Dan Heath
That seems to be what all the engineers say. And, I am sure they are correct. I just can't make myself do it that way. I used 1 per attach point on my first KR, and it worked, so I feel comfortable with it. I think it is the thought that if any one of those bolts fail, it is all over. See N64K

KR> WAF Bolt Sheer Load

2008-10-12 Thread Barry Kruyssen
ehalf Of airgu...@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, 10 June 2006 4:41 AM To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> WAF Bolt Sheer Load Cheese & crackers - all that math to prove the the thing works per plans if ya don't crash it. -- Paul KR2 Stretched Derry, NH . > My conclusion: There would be minim

KR> WAF Bolt Sheer Load

2008-10-12 Thread Donald Reid
At 06:02 PM 6/9/2006, you wrote: >This could be a good idea, if there was evidence of a problem, which >there is NOT. Why is there an expectation that the WAF joint is a weak >point? Why accept something that is less than it can be? If people were willing to belive that something can't be improv

KR> WAF Bolt Sheer Load

2008-10-12 Thread Kenneth Wiltrout
about this? If any body ever sheared a bolt in flight I would think that person's inclination was to over torque during assembly. Ken Wiltrout Ktown, Pa - Original Message - From: "Dan Heath" To: Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 8:38 PM Subject: Re: KR> WAF Bolt Sheer Lo

KR> WAF/spars

2008-10-12 Thread Keith & Martha Crawford
Hi kr fans A few years ago some ware around 99 or 2000 maybe sooner a post came around talking about spar strength. someone on the board had a set of wing that where unusable. this person talked about giving the wing to a university for strength analyzing. testing to the point of braking ! ab

KR> WAF

2008-10-12 Thread Keith & Martha Crawford
hi all looking thru the kr net I saw a photo of a set of waf take a look http://www.krnet.org/krs/wwilson/ Keith

KR> WAF

2008-10-12 Thread Dan Heath
Yes, I had thought of a design like that, only attached top to bottom on each end. It seems like one of the structural guys on the net pointed out the error of my thinking some time ago, even though I had never mentioned it See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you in M

KR> WAF

2008-10-12 Thread Ron Freiberger
Yet another way to make an easy job hard, and fix something that's not a problem. Why the fascination with WAFs? Ron Freiberger mail to ronandmar...@earthlink.net Original message looking thru the kr net I saw a photo of a set of waf take a look http://www.krnet.org/krs/wwilson/ Keith

Réf. : Re: KR> WAF Bolt Sheer Load

2008-10-12 Thread Serge VIDAL
cc :(ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM) Objet : Re: KR> WAF Bolt Sheer Load A better design is to use one long bolt with a compression member between the WAF pairs instead of paired short bolts, placing the joint in a balance double shear. This is my considered o

KR> WAF-WAF Bolts

2008-10-12 Thread D F Lively
Larry: I have rec'd the AN bolts for attaching the wings but I suspect a problem that should be asy to fix. The question is how tight should the grip be? The hols seem so tight as to be an "Interference Fit" that would permit the attachment of the wings but make it most difficult to remove the

KR> WAF-WAF Bolts

2008-10-12 Thread VIRGIL N SALISBURY
Measure the bolt diameter, then get a straight reamer that size and ream the holes, Virg On Thu, 04 May 2006 21:44:19 -0500 D F Lively writes: > Larry: > > I have rec'd the AN bolts for attaching the wings but I suspect a > problem that should be asy to fix. > > The question is how tigh

KR> WAF

2008-10-12 Thread Jaco Swanepoel
Hallo Guys, I have increased the dimensions on my wing spars with approx 15% and also fitted 6 ply mahogany plywood to each side instead of 3 ply. The wings are fitted with wing tanks and came out beautifully, but the thing is this, The WAF are still the same. I am sure that the 32 liter tanks o

KR> WAF

2008-10-12 Thread Robert L. Stone
nd if you are not an aeronautical engineer, you better get one's advice. Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx rsto...@hot.rr.com - Original Message - From: "Jaco Swanepoel" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 10:15 AM Subject: KR> WAF > Hallo Guys, > I have increased the dim

KR> WAF

2008-10-12 Thread Peter Drake
epoel" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 4:15 PM Subject: KR> WAF > Hallo Guys, > I have increased the dimensions on my wing spars with approx 15% and also > fitted 6 ply mahogany plywood to each side instead of 3 ply. The wings are > fitted with wing tanks and came out beau

KR> WAF

2008-10-12 Thread larry flesner
>I have increased the centre section of the wing by 6" overall and shortened >the outboard sections by the same amount. . To gain approval >from the PFA (UK inspection organisation) we had to use a modified WAF >Peter +++ Peter, I think I

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