http://www.ebay.com/itm/30-C-C-Sailboat-Sloop-Cutter-Riged-/191058759840?ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:3160
It pleases me to see that the C&C30 MK1 Holdes this kind of resail value.
Was it worth this much?
--
"All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty
recesses of their mi
That's a lot of boat for $15K
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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Curtis
Sent: February 10, 2014 8:48 AM
To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List C&C 30MK1 Worth this kind of money?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/30-C-C-Sailboat-Sloop-Cutter-
I know a guy who picked up a lightly equipped, but sound, 30 MK1 in Toronto
for under $5k. $15k seems like a lot for that boat.
Cheers,
Colin
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 8:11 AM, dwight wrote:
> That's a lot of boat for $15K
>
> -Original Message-
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Agree with Andrew... Of course, that's easier to say when you're sailing a
bigger boat.
I have no problem going forward on Bojangles while at sea, but then the
boat (at ~40,000 pounds fully loaded) is pretty stable, the foredeck is
huge, the lifelines are high, and the toerail is 4" high.
If I h
Look at the list of upgrades and accessories on this boat. Looks like the owner
put 20-30K into it. This is where the value is on a boat these days.
I’ll bet your friend puts at least 10K into that 5K boat trying to get it into
decent shape.
Jack Brennan
Former C&C 25
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 3
I second that response...
We left when our oldest kid was 11 and our younger 2 were 9. Which was
perfect - because kids are old enough to enjoy it, participate in life
aboard, and you don't have to worry so much about them. They're also young
enough that they still like hanging out with their pa
Well said, Colin!
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Colin Kilgour wrote:
> I second that response...
>
> We left when our oldest kid was 11 and our younger 2 were 9. Which was
> perfect - because kids are old enough to enjoy it, participate in life
> aboard, and you don't
When I was in the business of outfitting cruising boats by far the most common
age for cruisers seemed to be over 60 and it seemed to me most of them were
counting on my high tech toys to keep away from danger and discomfort. Mixed
results at best..
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK
Hi folks,
While my boat will be on the hard for a few weeks I'm thinking about adding
an inexpensive (but HD) skimmer (Retractable / removable) transom mount
sonar transducer.
The idea behind the skimmer is that 1) it's 1/3 the price, 2) No through
hull required 3) We can fabricate a bracket that
Given that the bronze through-hull Structure Scan transducer is $1200+, I’m not
surprised that you would try the skimmer. Just remember that you’re going to
have to be sailing flat (or motoring) in order for it to work with any degree
of reliability, or even be underwater at all, given heeling;
I would invest in a good retrieval line for the crown of the anchor and
spend the money you saved on beer.
Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
On 10 February 2014 08:43, Frederick G Street wrote:
> Given that the bronze through-hull Structure Scan transducer is $1200+,
> I'm no
When I was looking at 30s, there were a couple of similarly outfitted
for upwards of $20k, and one which needed *everything* doing, including
fitting a head, that was still up for $12k. I would say in these parts
at least, $15k is a steal.
On 14-02-10 04:48 AM, Curtis wrote:
http://www.ebay
Right
An essential piece of gear and with a bleach bottle and rig to wind the extra
line on an anchor marker as well.
Don Newman
C&C 44
> On Feb 10, 2014, at 12:23, Jim Watts wrote:
>
> I would invest in a good retrieval line for the crown of the anchor and spend
> the money you saved on bee
Owning one, I say that is a fair price for what he has done to the boat. It
looks to be in decent condition and obviously in sail-away form. Some of the
'upgrades' I question, like the 3/8 inch standing rigging (the original is
pretty stout, I wonder why he did that) but the plotter, wind vane a
It would likely only work at low speeds with the boat level and you will be
seeing what you already passed. We used to stick them on PVC pipes for testing
the equipment and I know one person who has mounted it on an angle on a pipe
that he rotates to look for underwater objects.
You also could g
Looks like he was setting the boat up for off shore use. The boat is
already a very stiff boat. The 3/8 rigging is all good but the plexi
glass cabin lights, would be the weakness' for the design for off
shore use.
I have Hin # ZCC30675M81E
This is a 1981 C&C30 MK1 and I can say it is a very stout
Hi Fred,
I agree on the bow vs stern and turbulence points. I thought about that as
well. The thing is, I have no plans to use this while underway (The
charplotter itself will take care of the depths while underway) . In fact
there are a couple "More reasonable" bronze HD transducers in the 70
You got a steal...be very happy
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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Curtis
Sent: February 10, 2014 2:28 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30MK1 Worth this kind of money?
Looks like he was setting the boat up for off s
I don't have a hot water heater on my boat - thinking about adding one
(I'm not feeling the "sun shower" in the cockpit will fly with my soon
to be 16 yr old daughter - all the kids are happy that the new boat
actually has DOOR on the head rather than the current flimsy curtain)
I've never p
There was some discussion on the list about the 30-1 last fall. Someone in
Canada was considering buying one, as I recall. The general opinion seemed
to be that they held their value really well, though the prices discussed -
and the asking prices on Yachtworld - seemed fairly high to me.
$14,500
Isotemp just introduced a new line of water heaters. Plastic outside but
retained their dependable stainless tank. Reasonable price. I'm going to put
one of the small ones in Touché' in the next year or two.
Dennis C.
Touché 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 10, 2014, at 12
As part of hauling the boat out this spring I plan to:
1) pull the shaft
2) redo the stuffing box (it needs it).
3) redo the cutlass bearing (doesn’t really need it, but since I’m pulling the
shaft )
4) possibly replace the original prop (2-blade 11x7)
I’m thinking about an Indigo 3-blade 10
Mark;
When I was doing research for my hot water system, I pretty much observed
that the lower price units were electric only, and the more expensive units
added a heat exchanger. I don't recall seeing any that only had a heat
exchanger without an electric heating element. Stainless steel construc
Anyone know the right size? Looking to buy Buck Algonquin stuffing box hose
and replace mine this Spring on pre-launch trip - boat is 4 hours away on
frozen Lake Superior. I'm sure my setup is all original, Yanmar 2QM15 and
two blade prop, traditional stuffing box.
Nate
"Sarah Jean"
1980 30-1 #602
Well, it was a cold weekend, but I wanted to check the boat, make sure
there was no water freezing up inside, and if I'm going to drive down
there then I may as well get at a job or 2.
Stripped off the last bit of upholstery - now I can get all the cushions
re-covered
Then I tried to remove
Success I think!
After a bit of a search I’ve found a new section of foil here locally in the
‘parts bin’ of a rigging shop (it’s actually new ... still in the plastic
wrap). The rigger has a 2nd piece as well that has been cut down. Now he says
he can’t be 100% sure it is a Mark 1 foil ..
Here's another article online about repairing a fuel tank.
http://www.goodoldboat.com/reader_services/articles/epoxycure.php
Plus a product I found online
POR 15
http://www.por15.com/FUEL-TANK-REPAIR-KIT_p_62.html
I used their rust inhibitor with great success on my motorcycle a few
years back -
Peter:
I have a manual, but I'm not sure what model. I'll check when I'm at the boat
on Wednesday night, and let you know.
Alan Bergen
35 Mk III Thirsty
Rose City YC
Portland, OR
Success I think!
After a bit of a search I’ve found a new section of foil here locally in the
‘parts bi
Avoid any issues and replace it with a new tank. That one pin-hole leak you
have found is an indicator of others waiting in the wings. I did a Moeller
tank when I had the engine rebuilt last summer (mind you the old tank wasn't
about to come out of the cockpit locker hatch when the engine was in
Peter Fell wrote:
Success I think!
After a bit of a search I’ve found a new section of foil here locally
in the ‘parts bin’ of a rigging shop (it’s actually new ... still in
the plastic wrap). The rigger has a 2nd piece as well that has been
cut down. Now he says he can’t be 100% sure it
Thanks Alan
Please check ... but for a 35 I’m assuming it would be a Unit 1.
Nice weather you guys are having down in Portland! I think if you went to the
boat now you’d need to take an ice pick with you. My wife is there right now
visiting our daughter (at school) ... she’s staying an extra d
Thanks Bill
Interesting it uses screws ... but if the torque tube is tapered, not
straight, then it is a Mark 2.
I think there was some overlap in the models ... the code stamped on mine
indicates it was built in early 1993.
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From: Bill Connon
Sent: Monday, Februar
Mark:
I just this weekend completed changing the fuel tank in my 1981 C&C 34. It was
not worth the risk to attempt to repair the old tank particularly having to cut
off the filler neck. My tank was 19-20 gallons. Moeller Marine
www.moellermarine.com makes a USCG approved plastic tank that in my
The boat looks to be a work in progress. Depending on its usage it might be
a reasonable value. For racing it would need too many changes, as might a
future for longer off shore runs.
I see from the photos that the SS such as the binnacle guards and pushpit
are pitted. The halyard winches are ques
Are you opposed to a new tank? Granted, a pinhole leak on the top may not
indicate more problems but it would make me think about the overall
integrity of the tank.
One of the first things I did when I bought Touche' was to replace the fuel
tank. I replaced it again when I repowered to a diesel.
I removed the steel tank from my 35-1 and discovered a lot of corrosion
on the bottom where condensation had settled, so was glad to have
removed it.
When I put a flashlight against the side of my plastic tank I can see
exactly how much fuel I have. So, no worrying about the accuracy of the
g
You certainly have some challenging bottom there. I have never had to worry
about snagging a gas station.
Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
On 10 February 2014 10:46, Jean-Francois J Rivard wrote:
> Hi Fred,
>
> I agree on the bow vs stern and turbulence points. I thought ab
Mark: I think I'd not mess with a 30+ year old old tank, but get a new one. If
there is one hole, another one is waiting to appear.
Rich
> On Feb 10, 2014, at 17:41, Dennis Cheuvront wrote:
>
> Are you opposed to a new tank? Granted, a pinhole leak on the top may not
> indicate more proble
For Crissakes Mark, take that tank out and put a good plastic tank in there.
In the time you wasted screwing around with this one, you can do a few backs
and be all set! It's toboggan season! Reap, reap!
Sorry, I will now go back and work on my interpersonal skills.
Bill Coleman
C&C 39
-O
2 thumbs up!
Rich
> On Feb 10, 2014, at 18:02, "Bill Coleman" wrote:
>
> For Crissakes Mark, take that tank out and put a good plastic tank in there.
> In the time you wasted screwing around with this one, you can do a few backs
> and be all set! It's toboggan season! Reap, reap!
> Sorry, I w
I'm not adverse to replacing the tank - but looking online so far
I can't find a replacement that matches the shape or the fill
holes.
The CS tank is 19Gal - and approx 10" wide, 48" long and 6" deep
and one end, 12" deep at the other -- a pre-fab new tank
Josh,
It totally rusted thru from the inside. It had a life of 30 years. Not too
bad I think.
Tom Anderson
C&C 32 Nonpareil
Marblehead, MA
90 days to launch
17 days, 22 hours to BVI sailing trip
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Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 15:01:26 -0500
From: Josh Muckley
To: "C&C List"
Subject: Re: S
FWIW, I installed a PrecisionTemp on demand propane hot water heater three
years ago. A fully power vented unit. Has worked flawlessly. At the time I
think it was only ABYC approved unit.
Check at PrecisionTemp.com. no affiliation. Expensive, but
Bill Walker
CnC 36
Pentwater, Mi
Mark:
Go to the Moeller web site. The 19 gallon tank I bought was 11.75"(h) x 16"(w)
x 26"(d). I believe mine was part No. 032519. The site will give you a drawing
of the fitting locations. The tank fit through the hatch without problem. I
could not have asked for anything easier. The hardest
Hello all,
Does anyone know where a replacement forward hatch for a C&C 30 MK1 can be
located? I've searched and there are lots of them out all requiring
additional cutting which I prefer not to do. Or, does anyone know where the
gasket material can be located for the original hatch? The hatch meas
Peter:
We've been stuck inside since Friday. It was raining, this morning (Monday),
and the temperature is now up to forty-five degrees, and the snow and ice are
melting fast.
Alan
Thanks Alan
Please check ... but for a 35 I’m assuming it would be a Unit 1.
Nice weather you guys are havin
Good to hear.
My daughter is, believe it or not, in our motorhome out by the airport! It was
so cold the fridge condenser froze up – had to switch it to propane from AC to
warm up the compartment. I’m, to say the least, on the fence as to whether or
not the motorhome vs apartment was a good de
We just had our forty-third day with temps below zero at some point during the
day; heck, we got ll the way up to +6F / -14C this afternoon… :^)
+45F sounds pretty good.
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
On Feb 10, 2014, at 5:00
Gary — please, please, PLEASE delete all the other email messages from your
post; when you reply to a digest, all the other posts get quoted in your email.
Thanks!
Having said that, your hatch is probably an Atkins & Hoyle. Their new
replacement for the old style of hatch would be the XR200 O
No offense on the interpersonal skills!
The reason I asked the question is I don't know the right solution.
Looking for answers online it's hard to separate the wheat from the chaff.
I've looked at the Moeller website - I could modify the tank location to
fit, but the 19 gal tank that sells
Kracor does not seem to have one that size.
Bill Coleman
C&C 39 animated_favicon1
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Mark
Bodnar
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 5:34 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel tank
I'm not adverse to re
Bill,
Interesting. The latest issue of Practical Sailor discusses the risks of
in-demand propane heaters.
In what ways have you minimized the threats of propane leaks and carbon
monoxide buildup?
All the best,
Edd
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Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
NCC-17
Well it that will work, maybe one of Kracors
http://www.kracor.com/pages/marinecatalog.html
Bill Coleman
C&C 39
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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Mark
Bodnar
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 6:23 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subj
Looking at the Moeller tanks leads to a new question - maybe my
Volvo diesel is a bit different - but my original tank has 4
connections
1 - fuel fill
1 - vent line (goes out to the stern)
1 - line feeds to the fuel filter
and 1 line that I assu
*GO* while you still can. Someone mentioned the number of retirees who
buy a boat to 'go cruising' with varied results. I've seen countless
big bucks boats that were tricked out for cruising, and the owner was
waiting for retirement and the pension, but died first. Heck, my
brother-in-law re
19 gallon here for $275 CAN:
http://www.marineoutfitters.ca/index.cfm?category=10025|10273&product=21089031&code=039729325194
And probably many other suppliers too.
It's the same tank I used and I got mine locally ... although I paid more at
the time I wasn't in a position to wait on shipping.
There is a kit you buy that provides the return line fitting on the flange of
the fuel sending unit I think they only sell it with the sending unit
included:
http://ca.binnacle.com/p6463/MOELLER-%2335724-10-DIESEL-RETURN-KIT/product_info.html
If you can’t get the flange and return fitting
I did not know you were in Canada or that Amazon was not an option. West Marine
carries Moellermarine products. Unfortunately West's price was about $50 higher
than Amazon.
Ed
From: Ed Levert
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 4:48:20 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Su
It is a fully powered vented unit installed in cockpit lazarette. That means
unlike the Chinese units it has a flu, vented out topside near stern through a
Fetus water tight fitting.
The units have redundant solenoid to prevent propane leaks if ignition fails.
Etc etc. Look to next practi
Excuse me, sp ckr, VETUS, NOT FETUS.
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From: Ed Levert
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 4:11 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Fuel tank
I did not know you were in Canada or that Amazon was not an option. Wes
Seems like its probably gonna be tough to retrofit an old heater to a heat
exchanger style. Probably have to buy one already made. I heat mine
almost exclusively with the engine in the time that it takes to get to the
mooring or pier.
Josh
On Feb 10, 2014 1:55 PM, "Dr. Mark Bodnar" wrote:
>
>
Has anyone tried teeing the fuel return line into the fuel feed line before the
filter? Just wondering??
Rich
> On Feb 10, 2014, at 20:03, "Peter Fell" wrote:
>
> There is a kit you buy that provides the return line fitting on the flange of
> the fuel sending unit I think they only sell
Well said...
John
Sent from my iPad
> On Feb 10, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Wally Bryant wrote:
>
> *GO* while you still can. Someone mentioned the number of retirees who buy a
> boat to 'go cruising' with varied results. I've seen countless big bucks
> boats that were tricked out for cruising, an
> Has anyone tried teeing the fuel return line into the fuel feed line before
> the filter?
IIRC that is not a good idea. Many diesel engines return more fuel than they
use. Some of the extra fuel is used for cooling the injectors.
I have a vague memory of a story regarding having two fuel ta
Hmmm. Seems that if more fuel comes back it would pressurize the feed line and
balance with fuel in the tank. ?
Rich
> On Feb 10, 2014, at 21:57, Martin DeYoung wrote:
>
> > Has anyone tried teeing the fuel return line into the fuel feed line before
> > the filter?
>
> IIRC that is not a go
Nah – you T the fuel return to the vent line. You need the hot fuel to dump
back in the tank, not recycle right back to the engine.
As for the returns on multiple tanks , I read about a guy
delivering a Viking motoryacht that looked aft and saw a trail of fuel. Some
research into the fuel valv
Had a similar situation with our genset. Builder had swithched the returns to
the two tank system. Never did fix it - just switched tanks a lot. Looked on
it as our was to transfer fuel between tanks!
John
Sent from my iPad
> On Feb 10, 2014, at 9:06 PM, "Joe Della Barba" wrote:
>
> Nah –
Apart from drilling a few holes, filling a few screw holes and saw cuts,
the Lewmar 60 (I think, I'll have to check) is a drop-on replacement.
Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
On 10 February 2014 15:16, Frederick G Street wrote:
> Gary -- please, *please, PLEASE* delete all
I'm just sayin. Shower at the marina. The solar shower can be rigged to work in
the enclosed head. Hang the bag on the goosneck and run the hose through the
porthole for the head?
The way to keep a 16 yr old cruising? Tell her she can invite her friends.
Decide early on how many friends, maybe
Bah Humbug!!! I'am 51 I will be 52 bin March. I , No, We are leaving in 5
years. I will be 57 and Ill wait no more. and We will be back when we
retire at 62. Well, unless she has not had enough. I love my dream. I want
it so bad. I have a boat I have been putting money and time into the dream.
I ho
Curt:
Lighten up (just saying).
I was lucky, I went cruising when I was 45. Now I'm planning my next cruise (a
longer one) which I'll do when I'm sixty. My point (and I suspect Wal's) is to
go as soon as you are halfway ready, but don't postpone needlessly. Life has a
way of stepping in. I
Life happens. I married a sailing gal long ago. She loved adventure and could
hand, reef, and steer. We cruised our 22 ft Cape Dory from NJ to Branford and
NJ to Swan Creek, in Chesapeake Bay. We learned together how to windsurf and
travelled to many island destinations. Two kids and several job
In aviation it's called fuel management. It's more concerned with aircraft balance. On Monday, February 10, 2014 7:07 PM, Joe Della Barba wrote: Nah – you T the fuel return to the vent line. You need the hot fuel to dump back in the tank, not recycle right back to the engine.As for the r
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