Agree with Andrew... Of course, that's easier to say when you're sailing a bigger boat.
I have no problem going forward on Bojangles while at sea, but then the boat (at ~40,000 pounds fully loaded) is pretty stable, the foredeck is huge, the lifelines are high, and the toerail is 4" high. If I had to do the same in my J/24, I might be a bit reluctant. Cheers Colin On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com>wrote: > At sea, leaving a sail up and luffing is not an option, Dwight. Such is my > comfort level on deck that I find that if I take care, I am in no > particular danger when I go forward to reef. That comfort level is worth > cultivating for the day when you have no choice but to go forward. Not that > I fault your thinking in the least; it sounds a well-considered decision > for coastal sailing. > > In extreme conditions, I would have the main and jib furled flying only a > storm staysail or a towel-sized bit of jib unrolled. > > Andy > C&C 40 > Peregrine > > > On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:44 AM, dwight <dwight...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Andrew >> >> >> >> When it's time to reef on the fly (heavy weather) I prefer not to go up >> on deck myself or to ask anyone else to go there...I let her flap...its safer >> that way, I can afford a new sail if need be but I can't afford to lose a >> man overboard >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Andrew >> Burton >> *Sent:* February 7, 2014 10:36 AM >> >> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Re- heaving to - now reefing >> >> >> >> If I don't feel like tying up the reef, I will pull (at least) the >> forward part of the excess sail to the weather side of the boom. That's >> puts an end to the flapping in most cases. If I put two reefs in, I make >> sure I pull on the first reef as well so the sail there's not as much sail >> hanging down. >> >> Andy >> >> C&C 40 >> >> Peregrine >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:29 AM, <sam.c.sal...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> And because they are not supposed to carry any load, the grommets for the >> nettles are placed about 3" to 4" below a line drawn between tack cringle >> and clew cringle. >> >> That way they just neaten up the flapping, lower piece of sail that's >> just been reefed. That's why there is only 1 or 2 thicknesses of Dacron to >> strengthen that area where the reefing grommets are. >> >> >> >> sam :-) >> >> *From: *dwight >> >> *Sent: *Friday, February 7, 2014 7:16 AM >> >> *To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> >> *Reply To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> >> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Re- heaving to - now reefing >> >> >> >> Absolutely correct Marek >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Marek >> Dziedzic >> *Sent:* February 7, 2014 10:02 AM >> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Re- heaving to - now reefing >> >> >> >> From what I know, the reef lines (going through cringles in the middle of >> the sail) are not supposed to carry any load. They are there only to >> prevent the reefed part of the sail from catching the wind and flying >> around. Only the tack (reefing hook/Cunningham) and the clew (outhaul plus >> lashing to the boom) are supposed to carry any loads. These little reef >> lines can be done "later" if needed. >> >> >> >> Marek >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 19:01:30 -0500 >> From: "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net> >> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Re- heaving to >> Message-ID: <030e01cf2397$c1cee7b0$456cb710$@net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Dwight; >> >> >> >> I get that you use a reef tack cringle like a Cunningham to tension the >> luff >> of the sail. My main has "dog bones" for both the 1st and 2nd reef that go >> over reef hooks on the gooseneck. >> >> >> >> What do you do about the outhaul for the reef cringle on the leach of the >> sail? And don't you need to put reef lines through cringles in the sail >> and >> tied around the boom to gather up and control the foot of the sail? Seems >> the sail would be pretty baggy with the foot loose to billow out, when the >> point in reefing is to keep the sail tight and flat. >> >> >> >> Rick Brass >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Andrew Burton >> 61 W Narragansett Ave >> Newport, RI >> USA 02840 >> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ >> phone +401 965 5260 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> >> > > > -- > Andrew Burton > 61 W Narragansett Ave > Newport, RI > USA 02840 > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > phone +401 965 5260 > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > >
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