The boat looks to be a work in progress. Depending on its usage it might be a reasonable value. For racing it would need too many changes, as might a future for longer off shore runs.
I see from the photos that the SS such as the binnacle guards and pushpit are pitted. The halyard winches are questionable. Only two halyards? No symmetrical spin gear? The conversion to a bow roller moved the starboard chock back and cut out a section of the toe rail, left sharp. Not sure if the bow plate was removed, leaving a question of where the jib tacks to. And so on. Hard to evaluate the quality of work from the photos. A boat in worn but solid condition needing mostly everything can be a good deal, as can be a fully professionally refitted model. The work in progress boats may end up both costing too much to be a bargain, and still require too much to be affordable. Michael Brown Windburn C&C 30-1 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 14:06:06 -0500 From: "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net> To: <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30MK1 Worth this kind of money? Message-ID: <00db01cf2693$27fc06f0$77f414d0$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" There was some discussion on the list about the 30-1 last fall. Someone in Canada was considering buying one, as I recall. The general opinion seemed to be that they held their value really well, though the prices discussed - and the asking prices on Yachtworld - seemed fairly high to me. $14,500 for the boat described might be a fair price. $2500 was really good price for your boat. But you can't count slip rentals, maintenance, haulouts, storage, etc toward the value. Those ongoing costs are just the price of having a boat. Count only your capital expenses for additions or replacement of gear to the boat. In the last 10-12 months, 2 30-1s have sold in the area where I keep my 25. A boat I would classify as fair to average (sailable, needed sails and replacement of instruments, but otherwise sound)sold for $6500, and one that was in great shape (well, it could have benefitted from a paint job) sold for about $10,500. Like they say, a boat is worth exactly as much as a buyer is willing to pay for it. I don't know what sort of portlights you have on your boat - aluminum frame or glued in with Plexus. 81 was about the time they changed the style of the portlights. But I would not be particularly worried about going offshore with either style of portlight so long as it was properly bedded and made of good material. I know of a couple of 38s with aluminum windows that have circumnavigated with no problems, and at least one LF38 has been back and forth across the Atlantic with glued in windows. Integrety of the portlights would not be my first concern. I also wonder about the need to upsize the rigging. When I had to replace the "tree trunk" of a mast and the rigging on my 25, using a a Kenyon spar, following an accidental dismasting I found that the OEM rigging used by C&C was two sizes larger than the wire recommended by Kenyon for their mast on my sized boat. Can't swear that the 30-1 was speced as strongly as the 25-1, but I would be willing to bet that it was. Rick Brass Imzadi -1976 C&C 38 mk1 la Belle Aurore -1975 C&C 25 mk1 Washington, NC -----Original Message----- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Curtis Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 1:28 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 30MK1 Worth this kind of money? Looks like he was setting the boat up for off shore use. The boat is already a very stiff boat. The 3/8 rigging is all good but the plexi glass cabin lights, would be the weakness' for the design for off shore use. I have Hin # ZCC30675M81E This is a 1981 C&C30 MK1 and I can say it is a very stout boat, But I'm not sure I would embark in a trip to Bermuda from Charleston without first addressing the windows. I would also change the companion way door with a thicker door. The wind vain and the upgraded rigging tell's me we went off shore or was planning to go offshore otherwise it would be overkill on a coastal cruiser. I paid $2,500. For my 30 MK1 and I have put about $9,00 including 2 years of dock rental. So, Good price for this guy. I'm impressed... Gives me hope if I ever go to sell mine Cheers ,Curt
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