Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Still here. (@Absurdor)

2025-02-23 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
juan wrote: Edward Murphy via agora-discussion [2025-02-17 21:10]: RadicalRose wrote: I activate myself. I push the boulder. […] This may have been ineffective in re-registering you (see CFJ 4100). I recommend announcing "I register", just in case. But RadicalRose wasn't deregistered. On

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposition 9214

2025-02-18 Thread Matt Smyth via agora-discussion
--- > 9214~ Mischief1.0 Stone Badgers I vote PRESENT On Tue, 18 Feb 2025, 21:01 Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-business, < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Mon, 2025-02-17 at 19:38 -0600, secre

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Still here. (@Absurdor)

2025-02-18 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Edward Murphy via agora-discussion [2025-02-17 21:10]: > RadicalRose wrote: > > > I activate myself. I push the boulder. > > > […] > > This may have been ineffective in re-registering you (see CFJ 4100). I > recommend announcing "I register", just in case. But RadicalRose wasn't deregistered. O

DIS: Re: BUS: Still here. (@Absurdor)

2025-02-17 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
RadicalRose wrote: I activate myself. I push the boulder. -- RadicalRose Hat: knitted cap This may have been ineffective in re-registering you (see CFJ 4100). I recommend announcing "I register", just in case. -- [ANSC H:GE V:G B:0]

DIS: Re: BUS: Deactivations

2025-02-17 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 2/17/25 5:43 PM, Matt Smyth via agora-business wrote: Does this mean my lily stamp is rare, now? Or is that not how it works xp Three things going on here... 1) players can be active or inactive. The difference is mainly that inactive players can be deregistered after 60 days (without 3

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Registrar) Deactivations

2025-02-17 Thread Matt Smyth via agora-discussion
Does this mean my lily stamp is rare, now? Or is that not how it works xp -- juniper On Tue, 18 Feb 2025, 08:45 secretsnail9 via agora-business, < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 7:26 PM secretsnail9 via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > >

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Absurdor) Slippery Slopes

2025-02-16 Thread Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion
I push the boulder whilst sleepwalking —— Ben From: agora-business on behalf of Kiako via agora-business Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2025 9:52:40 PM To: agora-busin...@agoranomic.org Cc: Kiako Subject: BUS: (@Absurdor) Slippery Slopes I push the boulder. --

DIS: Re: BUS: Inactive is inactive, lets be active!

2025-02-13 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 11:59 AM Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: > On 2/13/25 14:47, Gaelan Steele via agora-business wrote: > >> On Feb 13, 2025, at 7:40 PM, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-business > >> wrote: > >> On Thu, 2025-02-13 at 19:38 +, Gaelan Steele via agora-business > >> w

DIS: Re: BUS: Inactive is inactive, lets be active!

2025-02-11 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Fri, 2025-02-07 at 19:25 -0600, secretsnail9 via agora-business wrote: > This is a call to action instead of inaction. I think it might be time for > a revival of sorts, given the lack of gameplay right now, and a recent > burst of interest. I will be in support of any proposals that add gamepla

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pushing

2025-02-11 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Mischief via agora-discussion [2025-02-07 18:44]: > On 2/6/25 8:20 AM, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > > > That's why I created a civic duty rewarding scheme for deactivations > > that no one seemed to notice. > > For those of us drawing a blank here, could you remind us? I created a contract

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Inactive is inactive, lets be active!

2025-02-09 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Sun, 2025-02-09 at 20:58 +0800, Finley W. via agora-discussion wrote: > I object to my deactivation and push the boulder. (Salute) You sent that to agora-discussion; it won't do anything unless you send it to agora-business. -- ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: Inactive is inactive, lets be active!

2025-02-09 Thread Finley W. via agora-discussion
I object to my deactivation and push the boulder. (Salute) On Sat, Feb 8, 2025, 9:26 AM secretsnail9 via agora-business, < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > This is a call to action instead of inaction. I think it might be time for > a revival of sorts, given the lack of gameplay right now,

DIS: Re: BUS: Inactive is inactive, lets be active!

2025-02-07 Thread Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion
I believe I have pushed the boulder as well as claimed the Veblen. Also I own the Veblen and it has infinite points and is thus no longer pointless. —— Ben From: agora-business on behalf of secretsnail9 via agora-business Sent: Friday, February 7, 2025 8:25:50

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Pushing

2025-02-07 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 2/6/25 8:20 AM, juan via agora-discussion wrote: That's why I created a civic duty rewarding scheme for deactivations that no one seemed to notice. For those of us drawing a blank here, could you remind us? -- Mischief Collector, Illuminator, Prime Minister Hat: steampunk hat Vitality: gho

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9211-9214

2025-02-07 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Fri, 2025-02-07 at 11:08 -0800, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > I vote FOR on 9211 > I vote FOR on 9212 > I vote FOR on 9213 > I vote FOR on 9214 Despite the thread subject, I don't think 9214 was actually distributed? -- ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: Pushing (@Absurdor)

2025-02-06 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Matt Smyth via agora-business [2025-02-06 07:03]: > […] noting that I'm somehow still active after a few months of > inactivity. As a fan of automation for boring tasks, I avoid doing things I don't MUST if they cannot be automated. That's why I created a civic duty rewarding scheme for deactivat

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9211-9214

2025-02-05 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 2/5/25 12:53, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > On Wed, 2025-02-05 at 17:44 +, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora- > business wrote: >> On Wed, 2025-02-05 at 02:16 -0600, secretsnail9 via agora-official >> wrote: >>> 9211~   qenya, Mischief 1.7   De-Convoluting Mooting v1.1 >>> 9212*

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9211-9214

2025-02-05 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Wed, 2025-02-05 at 17:44 +, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora- business wrote: > On Wed, 2025-02-05 at 02:16 -0600, secretsnail9 via agora-official > wrote: > > 9211~   qenya, Mischief 1.7   De-Convoluting Mooting v1.1 > > 9212*   Mischief    3.0   Incentives > > 9213~   Mu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Spending [attn. Spendor, Collector]

2025-02-03 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Mischief via agora-discussion [2025-01-31 21:13]: > On 1/31/25 9:10 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > Ah, oops. > > > > However, only 7 should have failed since I was transferred 4 spendies for > > that CFJ whose number I can't look up right now. > > -sigh- This is why we need a Spe

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Spending [attn. Spendor, Collector]

2025-01-31 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 1/31/25 9:10 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: Ah, oops. However, only 7 should have failed since I was transferred 4 spendies for that CFJ whose number I can't look up right now. -sigh- This is why we need a Spendor. -- Mischief Collector, Illuminator, Prime Minister Hat: steamp

DIS: Re: BUS: Spending [attn. Spendor, Collector]

2025-01-31 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
Ah, oops. However, only 7 should have failed since I was transferred 4 spendies for that CFJ whose number I can't look up right now.

DIS: Re: BUS: Spending [attn. Spendor, Collector]

2025-01-31 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 1/31/25 6:10 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: Ten times, I pay a fee of two spendies to gain one radiance. Janet Cobb Nine of these failed https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg47444.html -- Mischief Collector, Illuminator, Prime Minister Hat: steampunk hat

DIS: Re: BUS: Boulder!

2025-01-23 Thread Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion
Well I push it towards —— Ben From: agora-business on behalf of Owen C via agora-business Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2025 11:12:28 PM To: agora-busin...@agoranomic.org Cc: Owen C Subject: BUS: Boulder! I push it backwards.

DIS: Re: BUS: The AGAINT conundrum

2025-01-19 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 1/17/25 1:47 PM, ais523 via agora-business wrote: (Note: the CFJ appears earlier in this message than these arguments do, so the judge should probably evaluate the CFJ as though the argument are not publicly known, although I'm interested in whether the mere fact of me posting these arguments

DIS: Re: BUS: (@absurdor) boulder i suppose

2025-01-11 Thread Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion
I push the boulder I object to each intent to declare apathy —— Ben From: agora-business on behalf of secretsnail9 via agora-business Sent: Friday, January 10, 2025 8:29:04 PM To: agora-busin...@agoranomic.org Cc: secretsnail9 Subject: BUS: (@absurdor) boulder

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9202-9210

2025-01-11 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Sat, 2025-01-11 at 13:15 -0500, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > When we've considered this before (e.g. for coins, before boatloads were > invented), people had written a bunch of contracts that would not handle > assets being destroyed out from under them (their internal state > wouldn

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9202-9210

2025-01-11 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/11/25 13:41, Mischief via agora-discussion wrote: > On 1/11/25 1:15 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > >> When we've considered this before (e.g. for coins, before boatloads were >> invented), people had written a bunch of contracts that would not handle >> assets being destroyed out

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9202-9210

2025-01-11 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 1/11/25 1:15 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: When we've considered this before (e.g. for coins, before boatloads were invented), people had written a bunch of contracts that would not handle assets being destroyed out from under them (their internal state wouldn't match their actua

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9202-9210

2025-01-11 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/11/25 13:13, Mischief via agora-discussion wrote: >> AGAINST. This will make it far more difficult to implement taxation if >> we ever decide that's something we're interested in. > Why? We already can't use wording like "every player who owns X" for a > potential taxation rule since the L&F

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9202-9210

2025-01-11 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 1/11/25 12:50 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: 9206~ Mischief1.0 Let Contracts Own Stamps AGAINST. This will make it far more difficult to implement taxation if we ever decide that's something we're interested in. Why? We already can't use wording like "every

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [CFJ] Ceci n'est pas mon message

2025-01-11 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/11/25 13:08, Mischief via agora-discussion wrote: > On 1/11/25 12:48 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > >> Hmm. I think I'd argue that, regardless, people who are doing that are >> not truly subscribed to the forum. For instance, if mail-archive went >> down but the lists themselves

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [CFJ] Ceci n'est pas mon message

2025-01-11 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 1/11/25 12:48 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: Hmm. I think I'd argue that, regardless, people who are doing that are not truly subscribed to the forum. For instance, if mail-archive went down but the lists themselves stayed up, I don't think we'd accept that the lists have ceased t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [CFJ] Ceci n'est pas mon message

2025-01-11 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/11/25 12:46, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sat, 2025-01-11 at 12:44 -0500, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion > wrote: >> On 1/11/25 12:42, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote: >>> On Fri, 2025-01-10 at 00:47 +, ais523 via agora-business wrote: Gratu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [CFJ] Ceci n'est pas mon message

2025-01-11 Thread Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
On Sat, 2025-01-11 at 12:44 -0500, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 1/11/25 12:42, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Fri, 2025-01-10 at 00:47 +, ais523 via agora-business wrote: > > > Gratuitous: I received a copy of this message with only four ">" > > > charac

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [CFJ] Ceci n'est pas mon message

2025-01-11 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/11/25 12:42, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote: > On Fri, 2025-01-10 at 00:47 +, ais523 via agora-business wrote: >> Gratuitous: I received a copy of this message with only four ">" >> characters (the relevant portion is quoted above), so it is at least >> possible for me to

DIS: Re: BUS: [CFJ] Ceci n'est pas mon message

2025-01-11 Thread Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
On Fri, 2025-01-10 at 00:47 +, ais523 via agora-business wrote: > Gratuitous: I received a copy of this message with only four ">" > characters (the relevant portion is quoted above), so it is at least > possible for me to tell that the original had a line starting with > "From ". There are ind

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [CFJ] Ceci n'est pas mon message

2025-01-10 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/10/25 12:33, 4st nomic via agora-discussion wrote: > Gratuitous: i see 6 >. And no one can prove otherwise. Therefore, take this > as an argument for IRRELEVANT: the transfer is specifying an ambiguous > number of spendies, and is therefor invalid. Is that a true statement? You haven't sent

DIS: Re: BUS: [CFJ] Ceci n'est pas mon message

2025-01-10 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Gratuitous: i see 6 >. And no one can prove otherwise. Therefore, take this as an argument for IRRELEVANT: the transfer is specifying an ambiguous number of spendies, and is therefor invalid. -- 4st putting jesters cap back on, it fell off while mobile On Thu, Jan 9, 2025, 4:37 PM Katherina Wals

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Gnomes AND Goblins

2025-01-08 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 1/8/25 11:14 AM, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: In case this comes back... - Whenever a player wins the game, grant each Angel player 2 gnomes. "Whenever one or more players win the game..." Otherwise, a single group win can give every Angel player the ability to win at will (and th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Gnomes AND Goblins

2025-01-08 Thread Owen C via agora-discussion
Understood, thanks. On Wed, Jan 8, 2025, 12:48 PM Janet Cobb via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 1/8/25 15:44, Owen C via agora-business wrote: > > I vote FOR both proposals here. > > > You can't vote on these yet; they have to be "distributed" by the > Promotor fi

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Gnomes AND Goblins

2025-01-08 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/8/25 15:44, Owen C via agora-business wrote: > I vote FOR both proposals here. You can't vote on these yet; they have to be "distributed" by the Promotor first. See [0] for an example. [0] https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-official/2024-December/018190.html -- J

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Gnomes AND Goblins

2025-01-08 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 1/8/25 11:14, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > I am generally proposing an informal classification of rules, one that is > clearly marked "DANGER", so that players may be aware that playing that > subgame may come at a cost. With no risk, there is no reward. > > I submit the following propo

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) Gnomes AND Goblins

2025-01-08 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Wed, 2025-01-08 at 08:14 -0800, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: > - Once per player per week by announcement, a feral goblin can be > transferred to anything so long as that goblin becomes loyal by doing so. > - Once per player per week by announcement, a goblin owned by the Lost and > Found

DIS: Re: BUS: Goblins

2025-01-08 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 1/8/25 1:39 AM, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: Infractions of this rule are class 4. The referee is ENCOURAGED to specify the maximum number of blots for infractions related to goblins. How does one violate this rule? An incorrect Goblin Rebellion announcement just doesn't do anything

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2025-01-05 Thread Owen C via agora-discussion
I have no relation to them whatsoever. On Sun, Jan 5, 2025, 12:54 PM Edward Murphy via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Automaticat wrote: > > > I register as Automaticat, give myself a welcome package, and push the > > boulder. > > Welcome! > > Are you the player prev

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2025-01-05 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
Automaticat wrote: I register as Automaticat, give myself a welcome package, and push the boulder. Welcome! Are you the player previously nicknamed "o" (registered from 2016-2018 and 2019-2020), or is their e-mail address just somewhat similar? -- [ANSC H:GE V:G B:0]

DIS: Re: BUS: (@absurdor) ???

2024-12-31 Thread Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion
I’ll just push the boulder normally. The previous sentence is a game action intended to push the boulder —— Ben From: agora-business on behalf of 4st nomic via agora-business Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2024 3:15:08 PM To: Agora Business Cc: 4st nomic <4st.no..

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4100 reassigned to Murphy

2024-12-29 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
ais523 wrote: On Sat, 2024-12-28 at 21:01 -0800, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: ais523 wrote: So the message itself is sufficient indication of the person's intentions, as far as I can tell. I don't think it's reasonable to assume that someone might have intentionally tried to award

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4100 reassigned to Murphy

2024-12-29 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
ais523 wrote: On Sat, 2024-12-28 at 21:01 -0800, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: ais523 wrote: (It is also worth noting that "an experienced player aiming for some level of ambiguity" would also cause a registration: unambiguously intending to ambiguously register still demonstrates

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4100 reassigned to Murphy

2024-12-29 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Sat, 2024-12-28 at 21:01 -0800, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: > ais523 wrote: > > (It is also worth noting that "an experienced player aiming for some > > level of ambiguity" would also cause a registration: unambiguously > > intending to ambiguously register still demonstrates a des

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4100 reassigned to Murphy

2024-12-29 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Sat, 2024-12-28 at 21:01 -0800, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: > ais523 wrote: > > So the message itself is sufficient indication of the person's > > intentions, as far as I can tell. I don't think it's reasonable to > > assume that someone might have intentionally tried to award emse

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4100 reassigned to Murphy

2024-12-28 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
ais523 wrote: On Sat, 2024-12-28 at 11:46 -0800, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: ais523 wrote: On Fri, 2024-12-27 at 20:35 -0800, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: In the absence of such evidence, I find that the precedent from CFJ 3776 still holds. Merely attempting an actio

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4100 reassigned to Murphy

2024-12-28 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Sat, 2024-12-28 at 11:46 -0800, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: > ais523 wrote: > > > On Fri, 2024-12-27 at 20:35 -0800, Edward Murphy via agora-business > > wrote: > > > In the absence of such evidence, I find that the precedent from CFJ 3776 > > > still holds. Merely attempting an a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4100 reassigned to Murphy

2024-12-28 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
ais523 wrote: On Fri, 2024-12-27 at 20:35 -0800, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: In the absence of such evidence, I find that the precedent from CFJ 3776 still holds. Merely attempting an action limited to players is not reasonably unambiguous evidence of intent to register; it is reaso

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 4100 reassigned to Murphy

2024-12-27 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Fri, 2024-12-27 at 20:35 -0800, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: > In the absence of such evidence, I find that the precedent from CFJ 3776 > still holds. Merely attempting an action limited to players is not > reasonably unambiguous evidence of intent to register; it is reasonably > like

DIS: Re: BUS: Paranoia

2024-12-27 Thread Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
On Fri, 2024-12-27 at 20:02 -0500, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: > I object to each intent to declare apathy. > > [qenya mentioned tabled actions, so, you know, just to be safe.] I was only trying to remember when my regulation amendment intent would become mature! My reputation is being s

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9197-9201

2024-12-20 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Fri, 2024-12-20 at 21:00 -0500, Mischief via agora-discussion wrote: > On 12/20/24 8:49 PM, ais523 via agora-business wrote: > > > > 9199~   Mischief    1.0   Rare Stamps, Differently > > > AGAINST, breakable by new players joining > > Could you explain this a bit more? The proble

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9197-9201

2024-12-20 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 12/20/24 8:49 PM, ais523 via agora-business wrote: 9199~   Mischief    1.0   Rare Stamps, Differently AGAINST, breakable by new players joining Could you explain this a bit more? The problem isn't obvious to me. Yes, a welcome package usually creates a rare stamp, but it's i

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9197-9201

2024-12-17 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 12/16/24 21:03, Mischief via agora-discussion wrote: > On 12/16/24 5:48 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > >> None of those options in Rule 2201 are defining *new* actions, whereas >> this clause is. "Denying" the claim has its natural language meaning, >> "publish" is well-defined, an

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9197-9201

2024-12-16 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 12/16/24 5:48 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: None of those options in Rule 2201 are defining *new* actions, whereas this clause is. "Denying" the claim has its natural language meaning, "publish" is well-defined, and "initiate an inquiry case" is well-defined (except for "inquiry

DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] A definition

2024-12-16 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Mon, 2024-12-16 at 17:50 -0500, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: > ["inquiry case" is a historical term used throughout the rules; defining > it here removes any ambiguity and helps answer a question that has been > asked multiple times by newer places. Also, standardize casing to match > mo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9197-9201

2024-12-16 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 12/16/24 17:46, Mischief via agora-discussion wrote: > On 12/16/24 5:06 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: > >> On 12/15/24 16:45, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote: >>> 9197~ Mischief, ais523, Kate 1.5 The Game is Afoot >> PRESENT. "by an announcement" isn't defined; it should be

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9197-9201

2024-12-16 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 12/16/24 5:06 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: On 12/15/24 16:45, secretsnail9 via agora-official wrote: 9197~ Mischief, ais523, Kate 1.5 The Game is Afoot PRESENT. "by an announcement" isn't defined; it should be "by announcement, clearly identifying [...]". Rule 2201 uses

DIS: Re: BUS: Boulder & (maybe) welcome pack

2024-12-16 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 12/14/24 7:01 PM, Brian Blomlie via agora-business wrote: Also, in case I was not a player last time I attempted to grant myself a welcome package, I grant myself a welcome package now. If your attempt to do so failed, then ais523's shortly after succeeded (CFJ 4100 will indirectly determ

DIS: Re: BUS: *Grabby hands*

2024-12-15 Thread Finley W. via agora-discussion
Should've been to the business email. Jinkies. In case the previous moves were not registered/legitimate: I push the boulder. I put on a jester's hat as an additional flourish. Announcing this is doubly important to me. On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 1:18 PM Finley W. wrote: > I ought to be more econo

DIS: Re: BUS: *Grabby hands*

2024-12-15 Thread Finley W. via agora-discussion
I ought to be more economical with my correspondence. I would like to add: I push the boulder. I put on a jester's hat as an additional flourish. Announcing this is important to me. On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 12:46 PM Finley W. via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I spend 18

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Inspired (@Spendor, @Absurdor)

2024-12-15 Thread Aris via agora-discussion
On Sun, Dec 15, 2024 at 4:48 PM Edward Murphy via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > juan wrote: > > > Edward Murphy via agora-discussion [2024-12-08 09:09]: > >> Specifically, many reports self-ratify (Rule 2201) if they go > >> unchallenged for a week. A CoE blocks this

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Inspired (@Spendor, @Absurdor)

2024-12-15 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
juan wrote: Edward Murphy via agora-discussion [2024-12-08 09:09]: Specifically, many reports self-ratify (Rule 2201) if they go unchallenged for a week. A CoE blocks this (though if it's denied, then a new one-week countdown begins), while a CFJ blocks it indefinitely. Of course an officer ca

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Inspired (@Spendor, @Absurdor)

2024-12-10 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Edward Murphy via agora-discussion [2024-12-08 09:09]: > Specifically, many reports self-ratify (Rule 2201) if they go > unchallenged for a week. A CoE blocks this (though if it's denied, then > a new one-week countdown begins), while a CFJ blocks it indefinitely. > > Of course an officer can resp

DIS: Re: BUS: Number go up (attn Absurdor)

2024-12-08 Thread Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion
I also push said boulder. (I think my wording would make it fail if Murphy pushed the wrong boulder) —— Ben From: agora-business on behalf of Edward Murphy via agora-business Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2024 12:23:01 PM To: Agora Business Cc: Edward Murphy Subje

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Weekly report

2024-12-08 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
Janet wrote: On 12/2/24 09:21, juan via agora-official wrote: Selected commits dad9620 Remove ■'s deadname from record This will be reflected in the next monthly report. I only publicize this because I want to make it clear that other players may request similar th

DIS: Re: BUS: Inspired (@Spendor, @Absurdor)

2024-12-08 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
juan wrote: RadicalRose via agora-business [2024-11-30 11:14]: I push the boulder (also I pushed the boulder in my registration message and I'm not sure this was picked up on). Thank you for reminding me! Sorry for missing it. And by the way, the usual way of dealing with these things is ca

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rise.

2024-12-08 Thread Finley W. via agora-discussion
Thank you for correcting me. I've kind of forgotten how to play. On Sun, Dec 8, 2024, 7:34 PM ais523 via agora-discussion, < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Sun, 2024-12-08 at 19:30 +0800, Finley W. via agora-discussion > wrote: > > OK. I become active. Then, if possible, I push the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rise.

2024-12-08 Thread Finley W. via agora-discussion
OK. I become active. Then, if possible, I push the boulder. On Sun, Dec 8, 2024, 7:17 PM ais523 via agora-discussion, < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Sun, 2024-12-08 at 12:58 +0800, Finley W. via agora-business wrote: > > I would like to reactivate my status as a player if I have n

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Rise.

2024-12-08 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Sun, 2024-12-08 at 19:30 +0800, Finley W. via agora-discussion wrote: > OK. I become active. Then, if possible, I push the boulder. You posted that message to agora-discussion by mistake. It needs to be posted to a public forum to be successful (usually agora-business). -- ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: Rise.

2024-12-08 Thread ais523 via agora-discussion
On Sun, 2024-12-08 at 12:58 +0800, Finley W. via agora-business wrote: > I would like to reactivate my status as a player if I have not > already done so before. Are there other things I should do? At the moment, that message is stating your desires but it isn't actually performing an action; you

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Collector, Prime Minister, Herald) Something I've wanted to do for years

2024-12-03 Thread Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
On Tue, 2024-12-03 at 01:58 +, ais523 via agora-business wrote: > Using the mechanism in rule 2569, I win the game by paying a fee of: > * 1 4st stamp, > * 1 ais523 stamp, > * 1 blob stamp, > * 1 Immae stamp, > * 1 Jackrabbit stamp, > * 1 Janet stamp, > * 1 juan stamp, > * 1 Kate stamp, > * 1 K

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) door

2024-12-02 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
(This idea started on Discord by a non player and I stole it. Base on do and the agoran traditional -or suffix) -- 4st putting jesters cap back on, it fell off while mobile On Mon, Dec 2, 2024, 4:55 AM juan via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > 4st nomic via agora-busi

DIS: Re: BUS: (@Promotor) door

2024-12-02 Thread juan via agora-discussion
4st nomic via agora-business [2024-12-01 22:48]: > I submit the following proposal: > {Replace all instances of "Absurdor" with "Door".} You know, as a curiosity, in Portuguese this is equivalent to calling me dumb. -- juan

DIS: Re: BUS: And Found (@Spendor)

2024-12-02 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Mischief via agora-business [2024-11-30 11:03]: > I transfer my last two spendies to juan. (If that fails, I twice transfer > one spendie to juan.) Thank you! -- juan

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: The Game is Afoot

2024-12-01 Thread 4st nomic via agora-discussion
Thanks for mentioning tournaments! #BringBackTheYellowRibbon! -- 4st putting jesters cap back on, it fell off while mobile On Sun, Dec 1, 2024, 2:20 PM Trigon via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 12/1/24 2:45 PM, Mischief via agora-business wrote: > > > > I submit the

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: The Game is Afoot

2024-12-01 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 12/1/24 5:19 PM, Trigon via agora-business wrote: This would be almost entirely redundant because tournaments exist (and are criminally underused IMO). The differences are just that tournaments use regulations instead of contracts and that they award wins directly instead of by way of victo

DIS: Re: BUS: Transference [attn. Spendor, Collector]

2024-11-30 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 11/30/24 2:00 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: I pay a fee of 5 spendies to transfer 1 nix stamp from the L&FD to myself. I pay a fee of 6 spendies to transfer 1 R. Lee stamp from the L&FD to myself. I pay a fee of 7 spendies to transfer 1 Mercury stamp from the L&FD to myself. Th

DIS: Re: BUS: Infraction Exaction (attn. Referee)

2024-11-25 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 11/25/24 6:15 PM, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-business wrote: On Mon, 2024-11-25 at 15:06 -0800, 4st nomic via agora-business wrote: I vote FOR on 9195. The previous sentence is a fingerprint. I note that 4st violated Rule 2471 in this message by claiming that the sentence "I vote FOR o

DIS: Re: BUS: Infraction Exaction (attn. Referee)

2024-11-25 Thread Paul McDowell via agora-discussion
Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 25, 2024, at 18:16, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-business > wrote: > > This clearly does not describe the > sentence in question, which is a perfectly ordinary sentence that anyone > might reasonably create by attempting to convey its meaning, without > knowled

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Propositions 9195-9196

2024-11-25 Thread Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
On Mon, 2024-11-25 at 16:09 -0500, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: > I vote as follows: > > 9195~ Mischief, Kate, Janet 1.0 Commitment Issues > > AGAINST. There is never any check that the purported kind of document > matches reality. Isn't that the very next sentence? "If the statemen

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Re: Deregisteriment intents

2024-11-22 Thread Trigon via agora-discussion
On November 22, 2024 7:57:14 AM MST, Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion wrote: >On Fri, 2024-11-22 at 10:56 -0300, juan via agora-discussion wrote: >> Mischief via agora-business [2024-11-22 06:52]: >> > On 11/21/24 10:26 AM, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: >> > >> > > I object to e

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Re: Deregisteriment intents

2024-11-22 Thread Katherina Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
On Fri, 2024-11-22 at 10:56 -0300, juan via agora-discussion wrote: > Mischief via agora-business [2024-11-22 06:52]: > > On 11/21/24 10:26 AM, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: > > > > > I object to each intent to deregister a player. (For the reasons that > > > qenya points out.) > > > > I a

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Re: Deregisteriment intents

2024-11-22 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Mischief via agora-business [2024-11-22 06:52]: > On 11/21/24 10:26 AM, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote: > > > I object to each intent to deregister a player. (For the reasons that > > qenya points out.) > > I also object to each intent to deregister a player. > > I'm trying to avoid any unc

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Other Business (attn. Collector, Spendor)

2024-11-16 Thread RadicalRose via agora-discussion
On Sat, Nov 16, 2024, at 2:04 PM, Paul McDowell via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 1:36 PM RadicalRose via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > I may be wrong, but I interpret R1728 not as limiting the use of the word > > "intend" to tabled actions,

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Other Business

2024-11-16 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 11/16/24 12:14 PM, RadicalRose via agora-business wrote: I intend to pay 5 Spendies to grant myself 2 RadicalRose stamps. Based on the back and forth discussion and rule 2579's text (requiring that fee-based action announcements "indicate intent to pay that fee for the sole purpose of usi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Other Business (attn. Collector, Spendor)

2024-11-16 Thread Paul McDowell via agora-discussion
On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 1:36 PM RadicalRose via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I may be wrong, but I interpret R1728 not as limiting the use of the word > "intend" to tabled actions, and my usage of "intend" in the quoted above > message achieves both "setting forth i

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration and Other Business (attn. Collector, Spendor)

2024-11-16 Thread RadicalRose via agora-discussion
On Sat, Nov 16, 2024, at 12:59 PM, Kiako via agora-business wrote: > On 11/16/24 11:14 AM, RadicalRose via agora-business wrote: > > > I register for Agora. My name is RadicalRose. > > > > I award myself a Welcome Package. > Welcome! > > > I intend to pay 5 Spendies to grant myself 2 RadicalRos

DIS: Re: BUS: This is still a thing (attn Absurdor)

2024-11-10 Thread Agora amdw42 via agora-discussion
Oooh my weekly task I push the boulder (violently) —— Ben From: agora-business on behalf of Edward Murphy via agora-business Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2024 2:55:40 PM To: Agora Business Cc: Edward Murphy Subject: BUS: This is still a thing (attn Absurdor) I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Are The Lists Working?

2024-11-09 Thread Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-discussion
As do I On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 8:15 PM juan via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > Paul McDowell via agora-business [2024-11-07 13:23]: > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 12:57 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < > > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > > > I object to eac

DIS: Re: BUS: Are The Lists Working?

2024-11-07 Thread juan via agora-discussion
Paul McDowell via agora-business [2024-11-07 13:23]: > On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 12:57 PM Janet Cobb via agora-business < > agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > I object to each intent to Declare Apathy. > > > > As do I I don't. -- juan

DIS: Re: BUS: Spell check

2024-11-03 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
Janet wrote: I intend, without objection, to clean Rule 591 (Delivering Judgements) by replacing "irresolvable" with "unresolvable". I don't object to this one, but I'm not sure I see the point? "irresolvable" seems fine and exists in several dictionaries. I don't have a strong opinion on th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Spell check (@Rulekeepor)

2024-11-03 Thread Janet Cobb via agora-discussion
On 11/3/24 17:10, Mischief via agora-discussion wrote: > On 11/3/24 4:50 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: > >> I intend, without objection, to clean Rule 2695 (The Veblen) by >> replacing "Abusrdor," with "Absurdor,". > P9172 should have already fixed this > > https://www.mail-archive.co

DIS: Re: BUS: Spell check (@Rulekeepor)

2024-11-03 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 11/3/24 4:50 PM, Edward Murphy via agora-business wrote: I intend, without objection, to clean Rule 2695 (The Veblen) by replacing "Abusrdor," with "Absurdor,". P9172 should have already fixed this https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-official@agoranomic.org/msg14130.html -- Mischief Collec

DIS: Re: BUS: Monthlies

2024-10-31 Thread Mischief via agora-discussion
On 10/31/24 6:03 PM, ais523 via agora-business wrote: Ten times, I perform the action "I increase my radiance by 1 by paying a fee of 2 Spendies". If I have remembered my current Spendie balance correctly, only the first seven of these work, with the remainder failing due to inability to pay the

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