Problems importing Feed into Readkit
After hearing some good reports on Readkit RSS Reader on the Mac I installed it but have fallen at the first hurdle. No matter what I seem to do I cannot import my existing OPML feed from Vienna as this option is dimmed in the file menu. Looking on Google it seems that loads of people complain about this problem but the solution does not seem clear. The app insisted that I log in with my Instant Paper account when it first opened which may be screwing things up but when I tried to remove this account from system preferences it refused to proceed. Has anybody found a way to make this app usable with a standard OPML RSS Feed import? David Griffith -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Not all e-mail showing when I open a conversation.
Command Shift D. David Griffith On 26/06/2016 13:00, Saqib Hussain wrote: Hi. I do VO J to jump to the message body and the same to move back into the message thread but I don’t know how to send a message without going to the toolbar so does anyone know how what the command is to send a message once it is ready to be sent? On 25 Jun 2016, at 19:24, Kawal Gucukoglu <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com>> wrote: Hi. Today, I opened my e-mails to read my mail on this list. I notice that even though I hear who has contributed to the discussions in the Threads, for some reason when I try and read the messages, even though they are there, they are not always showing. I am using El Cap, latest version. What I do to read the content of the threads on the Mac is press enter on the thread, and stop interacting and then press vo left arrow a few times to get to the beginning of the threads. I then press VO right arrow once to read each message (as if I was reading my messages on my I phone once you open the threaded conversations. I haven’t found any other way to read the messages on the Mac and can’t find the best way forward to do this. Any thoughts on how I should tackle reading mail on the Mac. From Snow Leopard to El Cap I have always read mail like this because I can’t find the best way to read mail. Bearing in Mind I have been using the Mac since 2010. I don’t have time to read books about the subject and have only had one week where someone showed me how to use the Mac, and my methods of using the Mac has not really changed. I am very surprised that I can operate the Mac as I have picked things up a long the way and am much advanced in it and can do many things myself. Over the years even new things on the Mac have been there, I just use it and it works. I don’t rely on Windows here at home as that is my day job, windows, and Duxbury. Thanks. Kawal. I'm fundraising for RNIB. Please help me make a difference by making a donation to my Virgin Money Giving page. To find out more about what I'm doing and why, please visit http://www.virginmoneygiving.com/team/RNIBiceland where you can also sponsor me online. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups
Re: Is the Kindle App accessible on Mac OS ?
As far as I am concerned the text content of books in the Mac Kindle app is still completely inaccessible to Voiceover. There was some claim that some people were getting some feedback with braille but as I am not a braille user I cannot comment. David Griffith On 29/07/2016 12:34, Saqib Hussain wrote: Hi. I had downloaded it the other day and got no VO feedback. I could see it being launched but speech wouldn’t read anything at all. When I got my Mac Mini around 6 weeks ago! I thought allot more was accessible in the way of apps compared to Windows but it doesn’t seem that way. The only advantage the the Mac has that it allows me to synchronise everything with my iPhone and I can send text messages which makes life allot easier and I’ve found that I’m replying allot more too peoples messages. On 29 Jul 2016, at 07:18, Ben J. Bloomgren wrote: I just tried it half a week ago, and for me it was a bonified disaster. Very little read. Ben On 7/28/2016 12:00, Paul Hopewell wrote: Hello, I am using the Kindle App on my iPhone using VoiceOver and it works pretty well. I would like to also read Kindle books on my iMac running the latest El Capitan. I have installed the Kindle App but am having trouble registering it. Is the App accessible with VoiceOver on Mac OS? Many thanks. Paul Hopewell -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Playing BBC World Service Content on My Mac
I have not looked specifically for World Service but in the past I have beend able to play a lot of BBC Radio content like BBBC Radio 4 simply through ITunes using its internet radio capacity. I have not done this for at least a year so I would have to go back and check whether iTunes can still do this but it would be worth a look. David Griffith On 02/08/2016 12:47, Craig Werner wrote: Hello, everyone. I am a U.S. listener running OS X 10.10.5 on a MacBook Air. I am trying to play live stream of the BBC World Service via the BBC iPlayer, but when I press the "Play" button on the iPlayer Radio screen, nothing happens. I have tried to activate the "Mute/Unmute" button and the various buttons that increase the volume; but no matter what I do, I hear nothing. I'm not even sure if the buttons are being activated. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Thank you for all help. Craig -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Accessibility and the Amazon site
The last time I tried the mobile version of the Amazon site I could not download any mp3 music - only available from the full site, has this changed? David Griffith On 20/08/2016 07:40, christopher hallsworth wrote: Not if you use www.amazon.com/mobile or www.amazon.co.uk/mobile On 19 Aug 2016, at 21:26, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: I don’t particularly like using Amazon on Windows or Safari and prefer using Amazon via the Mobile App. It’s OK in windows and Safari but I don’t like that if you go to Amazon and search for stuff using a computer etc, that it says this feature keeps on loading based on what you have browsed. On 18 Aug 2016, at 11:12, Martin Brown wrote: I use both the Windows platform and the Mac. I am, however, mostly a Windows user. In recent times, say over the past year or so, using JAWS and Window-Eyes with Internet Explorer, I have found the Amazon UK site almost unusable. Quite recently I decided to give Fire Fox a go and boy what a difference. It is like comparing day with night. If I need to visit Amazon now it is once again a pleasure. All too often it is easy to blame the wrong party for a deterioration in accessibility. In the case of Windows, Microsoft have a lot to answer for. The Narrator screen reader has improved, but it is still way short of being what it should be. Microsoft's Edge may well be 100 per cent HTML5 compatible, but what about all those sites that are not, and how accessible will they be using Edge. We will still need a screen reader that digs deep to make those sites usable for assistive technology users. When I use Safari to brows the Amazon site, I have always found the DOM mode to give the best results. All too often those who build a web page, and those who build the browser feel the need to make change for the sake of change rather than any improvement in performance. Even sighted people find it all very frustrating, as quite often such useless changes break what was working perfectly well. Martin -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. I'm fundraising for RNIB. Please help me make a difference by making a donation to my Virgin Money Giving page. To find out more about what I'm doing and why, please visit http://www.virginmoneygiving.com/team/RNIBiceland where you can also sponsor me online. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an em
Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven
As another deaf iPhone user I agree with everything you say but I htink you will probably not get that much understanding. I tried to explain on this list about how a wired headset was essential for me but was accused bizarrely of being a troll because I dared to criticise an Apple innovation. This did cause another another poster to comment that ironically some people are deaf to the concerns of those of with hearing impairments. David Griffith On 01/09/2016 20:07, Jonathan Mosen wrote: Hi Mary, unfortunately this issue doesn't affect the Deaf community in the same way as it affects blind people who wear hearing aids and require decent latency. And the fact that those of us who are affected are such a minority makes us more vulnerable. You can be sure I am considering my legal options under legislation here. A standard hearing aid wearer uses their phone actively far less than a blind person who wears a hearing aid. For example, if a Bluetooth solution is being used, after a standard hearing aid wearer has finished their call or isn't listening to music, the technology goes into standby and uses very little energy. A blind person has VO talking a lot of the time if they're using their device for tasks like reading and creating documents, email etc, so the impact is much greater. Even if people are willing to accept an adapter jutting out of their phone with its resultant potential to be lost or bent, the adapter will not solve the problem entirely if it means that you can't charge your device and use headphones at the same time. I travel long distances for example, often with flights over 12 hours long. I regularly take my Anka battery with me and charge the phone while I use it to compensate for the inaccessible in-flight entertainment system. It's important to me to have a full charge when I reach my destination. Based on the information we have, it looks like you can either listen to wired headphones or charge, not both. That means that every VoiceOver user who chooses a wired option appears to have to choose between privacy and charge. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org> On 2/09/2016, at 4:41 AM, Mary Otten <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: Well, just to be clear, I personally would be against this move, if it means that they' very large hard of hearing community can't use hearing aids on iPhones anymore. That seems like such an incredibly stupid move on Apple's part, that I am tempted to just believe that they wouldn't do it if they didn't have a workaround that would work for people who use hearing aids. The hard of hearing community is orders of magnitude larger then the blind community. So Shirley, this adapter must be providing someway for people who use hearing aids to keep on doing so. What am I missing here? I remember sometime ago, when the idea that the headphone jack would go away first came out, Jonathan wrote a very impassioned piece on this subject, arguing that this was a very bad idea because of the use case of hearing aids. Now Apple is going to do it anyway, but they're offering an adapter. Why doesn't that solve the problem? I understand why Bluetooth is not a good alternative, given Jonathan's comments on battery drain and the well-known problem for voiceover users with latency. It's still really bad, at least on my phone with my legend. I would not want to have to type on that system for anything more than a word or two, because the latency between when you touch a letter and when you hear it is much too long. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Sep 1, 2016, at 8:53 AM, Scott Granados <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: Mary, you’re exactly right and points well stated as always. Here’s another point to consider, suppose we add wireless charging. Now, you could have a brick with no ports what so ever formed from one solid piece of material. You could almost grow the casing and have a super durable waterproof phone with no openings at all. The entire surface could be a screen. Not needing ports is a good thing over all. On Aug 31, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Mary Otten <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Mark, Of course, only time will tell. But I think you are wrong about the disappearing headphone jack. For one thing, Samsung put back the storage card thing, but did not put back the user replaceable battery. Also, if the other rumor is true, Apple will be including compatible earbuds with the new phone, as well as an adapter to make it possible for people to use other headphones. Given the prevalence of Bluetooth these days, I suspect that the headphone jack will in fact be gone from iPhones forever. Other device makers are already moving in this direction. So it isn't just Apple. In fact, they will not be the first on
Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven
I believe this is the arrogrant person who described me as a troll because I tried to represent the issues of hearing impaired issues so I am not at all surprised by the ignorance and callousness of this reply to Jonathon. Heaven help us if this is how members of our community turn of on deaf users. David Griffith On 02/09/2016 13:35, Scott Granados wrote: Jonathan, now you’re just writing stuff to read it later, that’s just nutty. You make it like some huge personal assault against the great and mighty Jonathan Mosen, please, we’ve seen an adapter is going to exist so you have your precious 1960s technology. In the end, probably 3 people are going to care about this issue over all and all 3 are on this list.:) The average consumer doesn’t care what shape or size plug they use as long as when they plug it in the little light goes on and stuff works. On Sep 1, 2016, at 9:56 PM, Jonathan Mosen <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote: Keep fighting the good fight David. This is far too important an issue to give up. Our money is as good as anyone else's and we must never give up advocating for recognition of our need to be able to use our devices with efficiency and privacy while also charging them. If it turns out that this need has been met, then it will in part be due to courageous people like you who have spoken up. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/> On 2/09/2016, at 11:05 AM, David Griffith <mailto:daj.griff...@gmail.com>> wrote: As another deaf iPhone user I agree with everything you say but I htink you will probably not get that much understanding. I tried to explain on this list about how a wired headset was essential for me but was accused bizarrely of being a troll because I dared to criticise an Apple innovation. This did cause another another poster to comment that ironically some people are deaf to the concerns of those of with hearing impairments. David Griffith On 01/09/2016 20:07, Jonathan Mosen wrote: Hi Mary, unfortunately this issue doesn't affect the Deaf community in the same way as it affects blind people who wear hearing aids and require decent latency. And the fact that those of us who are affected are such a minority makes us more vulnerable. You can be sure I am considering my legal options under legislation here. A standard hearing aid wearer uses their phone actively far less than a blind person who wears a hearing aid. For example, if a Bluetooth solution is being used, after a standard hearing aid wearer has finished their call or isn't listening to music, the technology goes into standby and uses very little energy. A blind person has VO talking a lot of the time if they're using their device for tasks like reading and creating documents, email etc, so the impact is much greater. Even if people are willing to accept an adapter jutting out of their phone with its resultant potential to be lost or bent, the adapter will not solve the problem entirely if it means that you can't charge your device and use headphones at the same time. I travel long distances for example, often with flights over 12 hours long. I regularly take my Anka battery with me and charge the phone while I use it to compensate for the inaccessible in-flight entertainment system. It's important to me to have a full charge when I reach my destination. Based on the information we have, it looks like you can either listen to wired headphones or charge, not both. That means that every VoiceOver user who chooses a wired option appears to have to choose between privacy and charge. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/> On 2/09/2016, at 4:41 AM, Mary Otten <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: Well, just to be clear, I personally would be against this move, if it means that they' very large hard of hearing community can't use hearing aids on iPhones anymore. That seems like such an incredibly stupid move on Apple's part, that I am tempted to just believe that they wouldn't do it if they didn't have a workaround that would work for people who use hearing aids. The hard of hearing community is orders of magnitude larger then the blind community. So Shirley, this adapter must be providing someway for people who use hearing aids to keep on doing so. What am I missing here? I remember sometime ago, when the idea that the headphone jack would go away first came out, Jonathan wrote a very impassioned piece on this subject, arguing that this was a very bad idea because of the use case of hearing aids. Now Apple is going to do it anyway, but they're offering an adapter. Why doesn't that solve the problem? I understand why Bluetooth is not a good alternative, given Jonathan's c
Re: Replacing a local copy of a song in iTunes with the iCloud match?
There is no DRM involved with iTunes Match but there is a signature where basically your Apple ID is inserted into the Extended Tag properties of each file file you download using Match. This extended tag willl have a lable of ITUNESACCOUNT followed by your Apple ID without any spaces. This means that any Match Music you share with others could theoretically be sourced back to you as the originator and presumably there is a risk you may face consequences if this music is shared. Amazon do something similar but do not bother using extended tag properties but just the normal comments sections of tagged music files the last time I looked. I do not know of any way of displaying the Extended Tag properties of a m4a file using a Mac, though normal tag properties are easily visible. However if you use the free Mp3Tag utility under windows in boot camp or Fusion and invoke the extended tag view you will easily be able to find what I am talking about. David Griffith On 05/09/2016 14:33, Larry Thacker Jr. wrote: I don’t really want Match, but I have considered using it because I have so much music that was ripped from CD at lower quality and it would be nice to replace it all without having to go through all the CDs again. One thing I wonder though, Is there some DRM component in the downloaded copies that would force me to keep Match from then on? On Sep 4, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Donna Goodin <mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote: Thanks, Cliff. As I think about it, that may have been how I did it before, it's just been a while. thanks for the help. Cheers, Donna On Sep 4, 2016, at 9:16 AM, Kliphton Miller <mailto:kliph...@icloud.com>> wrote: The best way I have found to do this, is delete the local copy, and download it again from iTunes match. Frustrated with your Mac, I-device, or AppleTV? New user and want quick efficient answers? Or maybe you know apple products and want to contribute? Then come join a list where questions are always answered, and we are always patient with you. Subscribe here: peel-the-apple+subscr...@groups.io <mailto:peel-the-apple+subscr...@groups.io> Short quick getting started Tutorials: http://peeltheapple.wordpress.com/ Or just follow us on twitter https://twitter.com/PealTheApple And ask your question there. All are welcome! On Sep 4, 2016, at 9:37 AM, Donna Goodin <mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote: Hi all, I have some songs that I imported from CDs, and I'd like to replace them with the matched versions. You used to be able to do this by interacting with the place where it said download/local, but that doesn't seem to be an option in the current version of iTunes. Anyone know how to do this in the current version? TIA, Donna -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://group
Re: The best Mac alternative to MS Office
I personally have found Open Office completely unusable under Lion. I understand that there used to be some accessibility under Snow Leopard but under Lion I cannot get any typing echo at all. If it is wordProcessing you are after I would stick to Text Edit perhaps supplemented by the Free Bean Word Processor. I have bought Nisus Writer Pro and Pages but I must confess that I do not use them much, especially Pages which is a whole learning curve I have to get into. Unfortunately I do not currently have the time. If you are after a spreadsheet i understand Tables is a more intuitive spreadsheet than Numbers. I have not really investigated this yet as I am still using Excel under Fusion. I have heard Bento is an accessible database. David Griffith. 5 Mar 2012, at 15:36, Deamon David wrote: > Hi folks. > Since I myself aren't using Office suites that much, I'd like to ask > those of you who uses such much for the best solution for Mac? > Am I right that we have the options between OpenOffice, LibraOffice > and iWork? > There are two criterias here: (1) Accessibility, with VoiceOver and > (2) that it must handle these MS Office based format as good as > possible. > Hope there are some help out here :-) > Best regards David > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: The best Mac alternative to MS Office
I do not think you can. As far as I can see Open Office is useless if you are usingLion. David Griffith On 6 Mar 2012, at 03:49, Becky Knaub wrote: > For those of you who use Open, How do you get VO to tell you what you are > typing. It does it for all of my other apps but not this one. I hope there's > a way since I like the setup Open has. Is Libre more accessible? > On Mar 5, 2012, at 10:13 PM, Ezzie Bueno wrote: > >> You can get Libre Office through the following URL: >> http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ >> >> >> Ezzie Bueno >> Sent from my Macbook Pro >> ezziebu...@gmail.com >> (323) 448-0757 >> >> Check out daily jokes and more! >> >> www.SillyEz.com >> Facebook: http://facebook.com/SillyEz >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/SillyEz >> >> >> On Mar 5, 2012, at 6:45 PM, Becky Knaub wrote: >> >>> Thanks. I appreciate it. I am downloading Open Office now to give it a try. >>> >>> Becky >>> On Mar 5, 2012, at 2:33 PM, matthew Dyer wrote: >>> >>>> You can get open office from www.openoffice.org. Libri-office can be >>>> found by doing a google search for it as I do not have a site for it off >>>> hand. >>>> >>>> Matthew >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 5, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Becky Knaub wrote: >>>> >>>>> Where do you get Open or Libre? I looked on the app store and I can't >>>>> seem to find them. >>>>> >>>>> Becky >>>>> On Mar 5, 2012, at 12:05 PM, matthew Dyer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I like both open and libri office both of which are free and should >>>>>> handle ms word files with no problems. The only dall back is that vo >>>>>> doesn't handle tables very well though. HTH. >>>>>> >>>>>> Matthew >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 5, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Deamon David wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi folks. >>>>>>> Since I myself aren't using Office suites that much, I'd like to ask >>>>>>> those of you who uses such much for the best solution for Mac? >>>>>>> Am I right that we have the options between OpenOffice, LibraOffice >>>>>>> and iWork? >>>>>>> There are two criterias here: (1) Accessibility, with VoiceOver and >>>>>>> (2) that it must handle these MS Office based format as good as >>>>>>> possible. >>>>>>> Hope there are some help out here :-) >>>>>>> Best regards David >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because
Re: Libre and Open office
I am a Lion user and I have never managed to get any typing echo with multiple versions of Open Office. On 8 Mar 2012, at 02:42, Becky Knaub wrote: > Hi guys > Is it normal that these two programs do not speak what you type and seem to > conflict with VO? I thought they were a bit more accessible than pages. Did I > misunderstand this? Thanks. > > Becky > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Got network back, but still two VM Fusion questions
Have you tried Sharp keys in VM Fusion Win 7? On 25 Mar 2012, at 03:16, Bill Holton wrote: > Hi. > I did manage to get the network back online in my VM Win 7 machine. I still > cannot remap the keys, though, and I am also wondering if this is normal VM > behavior. I am using Win 7 with the latest Window-eyes, and whenever I > resume the virtual machine after suspending it window-eyes starts reading the > same line over and over again and the only way I can stop it is to restart > Windows. Insights appreciated. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: question about Apple wired keyboard with num pad.
You need to be careful though. This applies to the modern thin wired keyboard supplied by Apple. I hated this and replaced it with the old chunkier IMac keyboard. This does not have an FN key and there is a help key instead where the more modern FN key is placed. David Griffith b On 30 Mar 2012, at 15:44, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Ah! > > Thanks. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Mar 30, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Kevin Mattingly wrote: > >> The FN Key is located in the grouping of keys between the keyboard and the >> Numpad. It is the key in the middle row, far left. >> >> Kev >> On Mar 30, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Hi folks, I haven't used the wired Apple keyboard with num pad in years. I >>> was wondering, does it have an FN key? If so, where? I ask because I use >>> the f1, f2, keys etc as standard function keys. So I need the FN key to >>> do thins like adjust volume. >>> >>> TIA. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Disabling the preview pane in Lion mail
Under Lion the NumPad Commander 5 button is now perform action. That is the same as VO Spacebar. However on my setup at least control numpad 5 produces a mouse click. I cannot honestly remember if I set this up or whether it comes by default. It is easy to set up if this is not the default.David Griffith. On 16 Apr 2012, at 00:33, Esther wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Double-clicking on the horizontal splitter with VO-Shift-Space (e.g., by > holding down the Control, Option, and Shift keys while double tapping the > space bar) used to work in Leopard to hide the Preview pane. I think this > ability went away in Snow Leopard. There are definitely other examples of > instances where you need a "hardware" key click to work. I think that you > may be able to press the "5" key on the numeric keypad with NumPad Commander > to click, as well, but since I use a laptop I'd have to attach a USB numeric > keypad to try this. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Apr 15, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > >> I do find that moving through messages is more responsive with the preview >> pane turned off. Interesting that the voiceover click mouse command doesn't >> work here, but it definitely does not. >> On Apr 15, 2012, at 1:56 PM, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi Anne, >>> >>> Just as an added comment, in situations like this one, where I want to make >>> sure that the mouse pointer doesn't move when I double click, and a >>> physical click with trackpad or mouse is required, I use mouse keys instead >>> to perform the click. After routing my mouse cursor to the VoiceOver >>> cursor with VO-Command-F5, I quickly press the option key 5 times to turn >>> on mouse keys, then I double tap the "i" key instead of performing a double >>> click with mouse or trackpad, and turn mouse keys off again by quickly >>> pressing the option key 5 times. As you know, this requires having the box >>> in the System Preferences > Universal Access > Mouse & Trackpad tab checked >>> for "Press the Option key five times to turn Mouse Keys on or off". This >>> will work whether or not Trackpad Commander is turned off. Also, you can >>> additionally check the option for "Ignore built-in trackpad when Mouse Keys >>> is on" if you press (with VO-Space) the button for "Trackpad Options…" on >>> the Mouse & Trackpad tab of the Universal Access menu of System Preferences >>> in Lion. >>> >>> This is for cases where people have difficulty with clicking the mouse or >>> trackpad without moving the pointer, but it's useful in general to know. >>> It's most useful when using applications which are transitioning in >>> accessibility, where neither VO-Space or VO-Shift-Space will work to click >>> on controls, and you need to perform physical clicks. Turning mouse keys >>> on and clicking with the "i" key always works as an alternative in these >>> instances. >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Apr 15, 2012, at 7:43 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: >>> Hello Franc, First of all, you need to be in classic view to do this. You also need to have the Trackpad Commander turned off. Go to the horizontal splitter above the body of the message using the VO keys, then bring the mouse (VO-Cmd-F5) and double click using either the trackpad or the mouse, depending on what kind of computer you have. If you move the mouse pointer even slightly before the double click, it won't work. Cheers, Anne On 15 Apr 2012, at 16:10, Frank Ventura wrote: > Hi all, I am using a Mac with the latest of Lion. Can anyone tell me how > to disable the preview pane in Mac mail. I had some old directions for, I > think, Leopard but they don't seem to work. > Thanks > Frank > > >>> >>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Launch Pad
It is not really a solution but I find that the shortcut Command shift A which will take me straight to the Application folder more convenient than Launchpad. I cannot see what launchpad looks like but all it appears to offer is some fancy sound affects on opening an and an inconvenient layout involving grids and pages. In contrast command shift A will simply open the application folder with all your applications in a single alphabetical list. with Finder set to column view this is a very nice interface. Of course if you start to type the name of the app you want you do not even need to interact. You will need to be on the Desktop or other Finder window for the shortcut to work. David Griffith On 4 Jun 2012, at 23:39, ROD SKENE wrote: > Hi, > Is there a way to alphabetize the additional apps you have installed on your > Mac. The additional apps are on page two of launch pad. I would like them > in alphabetical order just like the pre-installed apps on page one of launch > pad. > Thanks for any help. > Rod > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Launch Pad
What I meant was that if you want to review the list of Apps then you need to interact to cursor up and down. At least that is what I have to do on my Lion setup . However if I type for example , Ni for nisus writer pro then I do not have to interact and pressing command down arrow will open the app without interacting. David Griffith On 7 Jun 2012, at 00:10, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > I'm not sure what you meant by if you start typing, you don't even have to > interact. Why would you need to interact with the browser in finder at all > unless, bring up the context menu for a file, app , or folder or, to do some > VO command. To open the app just press command O. no interaction needed. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Jun 6, 2012, at 5:14 PM, David Griffith wrote: > >> It is not really a solution but I find that the shortcut Command shift A >> which will take me straight to the Application folder more convenient than >> Launchpad. >> I cannot see what launchpad looks like but all it appears to offer is some >> fancy sound affects on opening an and an inconvenient layout involving grids >> and pages. >> In contrast command shift A will simply open the application folder with all >> your applications in a single alphabetical list. with Finder set to >> column view this is a very nice interface. Of course if you start to type >> the name of the app you want you do not even need to interact. >> >> You will need to be on the Desktop or other Finder window for the shortcut >> to work. >> David Griffith >> On 4 Jun 2012, at 23:39, ROD SKENE wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> Is there a way to alphabetize the additional apps you have installed on >>> your Mac. The additional apps are on page two of launch pad. I would like >>> them in alphabetical order just like the pre-installed apps on page one of >>> launch pad. >>> Thanks for any help. >>> Rod >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: interacting was question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with items
I think sometimes we get hung up on the word interaction. I have entered this thread late but actually with screen readers on \Windows systems we often have to interact. It is not called interaction so we do not recognise it as such. For example in a Windows save as dialogue you have to tab to get to container panes where it is possible to navigate folder structures. This is interaction by another name. On web pages even with Jaws or NVDA it is often necessary to interact with an edit box before you can type into it. This is done with the enter key or space but it still interaction. Jaws has an auto mode but this will not work if you are using single letter navigation to jump between edit boxes and you will have to interact to enter text. I am glad that I use interaction with Tab key on the Mac which makes things easier and numpad commander 7 and 9 keys also makes life easier. I agree the concept needs more formal understanding on the Mac but it is present in some form on all screen reading PC Platforms I think. so I think people need to relax into the concept and recognise that it is not completely alien when you analyse it. David Griffith On 6 Jun 2012, at 21:58, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: > This is one way in which VO is a little bit awkward; that sometimes you have > have to interact two levels down just to get to the ability to spell or > phonetically sound out a word. I wish there was a "spell current word," > feature; I guess I could maybe set one up in one of the commanders... > > > • Mark BurningHawk Baxter > • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com > • My home page: > • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: DVD to mp3
I saw themessage about using DVD Master but so far I have failed miserably to get any mp3 format out of it. I wanted to get the Mp3s to play on my pocket plextalk daisy player. I have found quite a few output formats but none of them are mp3. Does anybody know what I am doing wrong? David Griffith On 18 Jun 2012, at 04:30, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi, > > you can use DVD remaster. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Jun 17, 2012, at 7:32 PM, Craig J Dunlop wrote: > >> Sometime back I could see messages about getting MP3 audio off of DVDs. I >> did not have the need to do that when the messages came out but now I do >> what is the program that people have used that works well with voice over to >> strip the MP3 off of a DVD. Thank you for any help >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: TextEdit question
Command right and left arrow willmove you to the beginning and end of a line. and On 23 Aug 2012, at 14:25, Stacey Robinson wrote: > Hi all, > If I'm in TextEdit and I want to move to the end of a line, how do I do this? > I'm using a USB apple keyboard with my White MacBook running SL. > Thanks, > Stacey and GEB dog Chesley > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mac feel natural
I have come into this thread late so apologies if these points have already been made. I am a comparative new Mac user and to be honest also initially found many of the VO shortcuts very key intensive. Quick nab helped a bit but I was constantly having to turn it on and off which added complication. Changing the function of the Tab key to automatically interact also helped a bit. This was not helped by my not getting on with the initial I MAC thin keyboard which gave me terrible RSI. For the first time I had to wear bandages over my wrists. 2 cope with the pain. 2 things have transformed matters for me. the firs is num pad commander which has for me personally revolutionised the ease of using Voiceover. . This has delivered much of the convenience of some old windows shortcuts and more. So if you want an application key to bring up the context menu then simply press the plus key on the num pad. . . I can even cope with interacting in and out of elements now with out wrecking my wrists because all I have to do is press 9 to interact and 7 to stop interacting. I execute by pressing the 5 key and so on. The other brilliant feature of the Mac is column view folder navigation which I constantly miss in Windows now. The other reasons for switching to the Mac is that hopefully Apple show no intention of losing a menu bar and moving to a hateful ribbon arrangement. By the way pressing 8 on num pad will bring up the menu bar, very easy. The other joy of the Mac is the way access tools work across the system. For example item chooser works as far as I can see everywhere and not just in Safari. I use it a lot in unfamiliar applications to get around. My only major disappointments so far is that after trying TextEdit bean, Nisus writer pro and Pages I have not found a satisfactory word processor to cope with word documents. Whether we like it or not this is a standard most of the world uses and none of these applications seem to cope with tables. If you are going to use a word processor for serious use then support for a table standard must be a basic necessity and I am baffled as to why this has not been sorted out ages ago. I also cannot do my online banking on the Mac as Safari will not even provide any feedback when entering passwords. Sometimes you sporadically get a click in some fields but often there is no typing feedback at all. I had to reset my passwords after several confused login attempts so sadly it is back to windows for anything involving passwords and finance. Secondly the other massive improvement was that I have got rid of the torture that was the new I MAC keyboard and replaced it with an older chunky model which with a wrist support no longer pains my hands and shoulders. If I could only now find a natural ergonomic keyboard that worked on a mac life would be definitely on the up. Unfortunately the windows ergonomic keyboards I have tried do not work. Anyway my recommendation is give num pad commander a try. If you have a mac book then I would definitely invest in an external keyboard to gain the convenience of the num pad. David Griffith n 26 Nov 2011, at 09:19, Anne Robertson wrote: > Hello Garth, > > There are vast numbers of keyboard shortcuts that have nothing to do with > VoiceOver. > > To get a contextual menu, hold down the Control key and click with the mouse > or trackpad; > To get to the Apple menu, press Ctrl-F2; > To go to the dock, press Ctrl-F3; > To go to the Status menus, press Ctrl-F8; > To go to the Toolbar, press Ctrl-F5; > To open the Applications folder, press Cmd-Shift-A; > To open the Utilities folder, press Cmd-Shift-U; > To open the Documents folder, press Cmd-Shift-O; > To open the Home folder, press Cmd-Shift-H; > And there are many more. > > To learn more about shortcuts and enable the ones you want, go into System > Preferences, Keyboard, and select the Shortcuts tab. There you will find a > table of categories, and to the right of that, a table of shortcuts for the > category you've chosen. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > > > On 26 Nov 2011, at 09:24, Garth Humphreys wrote: > >> Hi Ricardo and Scott >> >> Sorry this is just an impression I have. I will explain a little further >> what I mean, and let me also say that I acknowledge that as a new mac user I >> probably don't really know what I am talking about. >> >> It is things like bringing up a context menu. There is obviously the 4 >> finger VO way to do this. Is there any keyboard only way of doing this other >> then the VO one? Under windows there is a specific key for this as well as >> at least one other 2 finger keyboard shortcut. >> >> I get the impression that a lot of the UI in OSX is designed to be >> interacted with by using a m
Feedback on secure Edit boxes
Thanks for the suggestion. The problem with my banking site is that I never enter a single password but instead have to enter characters from it generated by random number selection. This is good for security but defeats password automation. I would settle for audible feedback but Safari and voiceover does not appear to deliver this consistently. So some edit boxes will not provide any click feedback and others will only provide sporadic feedback. So for example if I try to sign to my Gmail some of my key presses will provide feedback and others will not. This is very confusing and can lead you to believe that your have not pressed a key that you have in fact made. The problem with the Nat West site when I tried it was that no feedback at all was being received. On my netbook Windows XP setup I get Jaws announcing star. . after every key press. This is all I want Voiceover and Safari to do consistently, that is provide a click on secure edit boxes, and I would be happy. David Griffith. . appaerar p 27 Nov 2011, at 01:10, Scott Howell wrote: > David, > > I have a very long password I use for my banking site. I can tell you that > APple is not going to change how you receive feedback on entering passwords. > Whether you agree or not, security is their first concern and I can assure > you it took some effort to get even some audible feedback. However, perhaps > you may consider a program such as 1Password by Agile Bits. This is an > excellent application that will allow you to save passwords very securely and > with one keystroke, have that password entered. > In any case, just sharing an idea and here is a URL for more info on the app > if you'r interested, > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/1password/id443987910?mt=12. > > On Nov 26, 2011, at 11:26 AM, David Griffith wrote: > >> I have come into this thread late so apologies if these points have >> already been made. >> >> I am a comparative new Mac user and to be honest also initially found many >> of the VO shortcuts very key intensive. Quick nab helped a bit but I was >> constantly having to turn it on and off which added complication. Changing >> the function of the Tab key to automatically interact also helped a bit. >> This was not helped by my not getting on with the initial I MAC thin >> keyboard which gave me terrible RSI. For the first time I had to wear >> bandages over my wrists. >> 2 cope with the pain. >> 2 things have transformed matters for me. the firs is num pad commander >> which has for me personally revolutionised the ease of using Voiceover. . >> This has delivered much of the convenience of some old windows shortcuts and >> more. So if you want an application key to bring up the context menu then >> simply press the plus key on the num pad. . >> . I can even cope with interacting in and out of elements now with out >> wrecking my wrists because all I have to do is press 9 to interact and 7 to >> stop interacting. I execute by pressing the 5 key and so on. The other >> brilliant feature of the Mac is column view folder navigation which I >> constantly miss in Windows now. The other reasons for switching to the Mac >> is that hopefully Apple show no intention of losing a menu bar and moving >> to a hateful ribbon arrangement. By the way pressing 8 on num pad will bring >> up the menu bar, very easy. The other joy of the Mac is the way access tools >> work across the system. For example item chooser works as far as I can see >> everywhere and not just in Safari. I use it a lot in unfamiliar applications >> to get around. >> >> My only major disappointments so far is that after trying TextEdit bean, >> Nisus writer pro and Pages I have not found a satisfactory word processor to >> cope with word documents. Whether we like it or not this is a standard most >> of the world uses and none of these applications seem to cope with tables. >> If you are going to use a word processor for serious use then support for a >> table standard must be a basic necessity and I am baffled as to why this has >> not been sorted out ages ago. >> I also cannot do my online banking on the Mac as Safari will not even >> provide any feedback when entering passwords. Sometimes you sporadically get >> a click in some fields but often there is no typing feedback at all. I had >> to reset my passwords after several confused login attempts so sadly it is >> back to windows for anything involving passwords and finance. >> Secondly the other massive improvement was that I have got rid of the >> torture that was the new I MAC keyboard and replaced it with an older chunky >> mode
Re: selecting non-contiguous items in a folder with the keyboard
If you are using Lion this is very easy. Simply press VO command spacebar to toggle selection on and off on an item. . VO cursor down to the next item you want to select and then press VOcommand spacebar again. VO will say added to selection and tell you the number of items you have selected. I understand that under Snow Leopard and earlier you had to change cursor tracking options but as I am a new Mac user who started out with Lion I do not know how to . On do this under previous operating systems. 0 Dec 2011, at 14:33, Angie Giltinan wrote: > Hi all, > I am trying to select several items in a folder, they are not right next to > each other. > Can someone tell me how to do this? > Thanks in advance > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: selecting non-contiguous items in a folder with the keyboard
Well let us make sure we have the same setup. 1. first of all are we both using Lion? 2. If we are press command 3 in the folder to put Finder into column view like mine. 3. If I navigate to a file by just using the cursor keys and press all together control option command and then spacebar thenVoiceover will say the name of the file and then say removed from selection. I press control option command an d spacebar all together again Voiceover again announces the name of the file and say added to selection 1 item selected. 4. If I move to another file by pressing cursor keys to to another file and press the same 4 keys together then Voiceover say then name of the file and then says added to selection 2 items selected. If I move to the next file I want to copy and do the same Voiceover will again announce the name of the file then added to selection, three items selected and so on. I think this is about as clear as I can be . Hope that you get there. David Griffith On 10 Dec 2011, at 14:54, Angie Giltinan wrote: > When I do this, I hear > Voiceover on. > Any ideas? > On Dec 10, 2011, at 9:48 AM, David Griffith wrote: > >> If you are using Lion this is very easy. >> >> Simply press VO command spacebar to toggle selection on and off on an item. >> . >> VO cursor down to the next item you want to select and then press VOcommand >> spacebar again. >> VO will say added to selection and tell you the number of items you have >> selected. >> I understand that under Snow Leopard and earlier you had to change cursor >> tracking options but as I am a new Mac user who started out with Lion I >> do not know how to . >> On do this under previous operating systems. >> 0 Dec 2011, at 14:33, Angie Giltinan wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> I am trying to select several items in a folder, they are not right next to >>> each other. >>> Can someone tell me how to do this? >>> Thanks in advance >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: What am I doing Wrong
I am using Fusion 3 but this what works for me. 1. Start windows in Fusion. The easiest way I found to do this was to go to my Home directory by pressing command hhift H from the desktop and hen navigating first of all to documents then virtual machines and then Windows 7. Now press command shift T to add this to Dock. 3. Now pressing VO D will take you to the Dock, type win and you should land on Windows 7 and then press return. 4. fusion will start and start to load windows. 5. This is assuming you have a screen reader already loaded in Windows. The key is to put Windows into full screen mode by pressing control command and Return. 6. Personally I find you need to turn voiceover ver off before doing this because of key conflicts. 7. To return to the Mac press control command and return again to leave full screen mode and then you can use turn Voiceover on again. David Griffith on to On 11 Dec 2011, at 03:33, Lisa Salinger wrote: > Hi all, > I got my MacBook Air in October, and am still learning quite a bit, both > about Lion and about using Windows in VMWare Fusion. Lately, when I start > Fusion, I can only seem to access a toolbar with suspend, devices, unity, > and snapshots. I've been able to get out of this and get Windows to start, > sometimes by uninteracting with the toolbar. Tonight, I was unable to get > Windows to start at all. I'd love to hear any suggestions you have for > fixing this. Thanks in advance. > > > Lisa Salinger > www.lisasalinger.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Num Pad Accessory
I have finally found a UK supplier who will provide a high quality ergonomic keyboard for the Mac. It is very expensive compared to Windows versions but I would buy it like a shot because I am fairly desperate to have comfortable typing again. However there is one problem. The keyboard does not have a numeric keypad and I am a fan of num pad commander. The suggestion that they have made to me is that I purchase a separate numpad keyboard from them to go with the ergonomic keyboard . The numpad keyboards they sell are standard PC USB devices but they believe that they will work on a Mac. Having found it impossible to connect a windows ergonomic keyboard which is compatible with the Mac I am suspicious of claims that things should be compatible. Does anybody have successful experience of using a separate numpad keyboard with the Mac? Regards David Griffith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Num Pad Accessory
I already have this but it is nowhere near ergonomic I am afraid. I started out with the thin keyboard which came with my IMac which gave me terrible RSI strain in my wrists, I replaced this with an older model chunkier Apple keyboard but it is still nowhere near as comfortable for me as my old ergonomic keyboard. After using an ergonomic keyboard for years it is very difficult to go back to the unnatural cramped key layout of normal keyboards. On 12 Dec 2011, at 12:14, Daniel Miller wrote: > Hi, > > Just get the apple wired keyboard with numeric keypad. Bam, problem solved. > > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. L. Alexander > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 3:42 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Num Pad Accessory > > nope. all the main interface is with the normal keyboard layout. numpad > commander may require it but to be honest I don't use it. just my normal > keyboard on my macbook pro. > > am I right in thinking you may be taking the plunge in buying a new mac? if > so, may I shake your hand and congratulate you on a wise decision :) > > lol > > lew > > On 12 Dec 2011, at 09:25, Cheree Heppe wrote: > > > Cheree heppe here: > So far, I use IOS devices and not even a MacVook Air. My Windows screen > reader, Window-Eyes does everything I require of it without any use of a > numpad. > Does a Mac-driven laptop with VoiceOver require use of a numpad to operate?I > was planning on trying for a MacBook Air soon. > > Regards, > Cheree Heppe > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 12/12/2011, at 12:49 AM, David Griffith wrote: > > > I have finally found a UK supplier who will provide a high quality > ergonomic keyboard for the Mac. > > It is very expensive compared to Windows versions but I would buy it like a > shot because I am fairly desperate to have comfortable typing again. However > there is one problem. The keyboard does not have a numeric keypad and I am a > fan of num pad commander. > The suggestion that they have made to me is that I purchase a separate > numpad keyboard from them to go with the ergonomic keyboard . > The numpad keyboards they sell are standard PC USB devices but they believe > that they will work on a Mac. Having found it impossible to connect a > windows ergonomic keyboard which is compatible with the Mac I am suspicious > of claims that things should be compatible. > Does anybody have successful experience of using a separate numpad keyboard > with the Mac? > > Regards > > David Griffith > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email > tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsfortheb...@mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > Twitter: @macsfortheblind > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working > apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a > copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help > anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsu
Re: Num Pad Accessory
This topic drifted away from the original subject but to bring it back I spotted a USB numeric keypad on amazon for £7 so decided to take a punt on it. I have just plugged it in an although the Mac was very confused by it and said it did not recognise it as a keyboard it nevertheless works perfectly with Voiceover and the Num Pad commander. I just closed keyboard assistant and all was fine. I can now go ahead and purchase a Mac Ergonomic keyboard and hopefully the masses of typing I have to do inn the next 12 months will be a more pleasurable experience. David griffith On 16 Dec 2011, at 02:23, Keith Watson wrote: > Will, you used to have to hold the Voice Over keys and navigate with the > arrow keys. Quick Nav basically locks you into Voice Over mode so you don't > need to hold down the VO keys. It also allows you to rotate through the rotor. > > HTH > > Keith > > On Dec 14, 2011, at 2:03 AM, Cheree Heppe wrote: > >> Cheree Heppe here: >> >> Excellent! Because I am going to migrate M I G R A T E from the Windows >> platform at my earliest convenience. >> >> What's QuickNav? >> >> Thanks for the answer. >> >> >> Regards, >> Cheree Heppe >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 12/12/2011, at 20:22, Dan Roy wrote: >> >>> This is especially true now with quicknav. I know, everyone has their own >>> preference for what's comfortable to them. but, for me, quicknav was a >>> huge improvement. >>> >>> >>> On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:42 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: >>> >>>> nope. all the main interface is with the normal keyboard layout. numpad >>>> commander may require it but to be honest I don't use it. just my normal >>>> keyboard on my macbook pro. >>>> >>>> am I right in thinking you may be taking the plunge in buying a new mac? >>>> if so, may I shake your hand and congratulate you on a wise decision :) >>>> >>>> lol >>>> >>>> lew >>>> >>>> On 12 Dec 2011, at 09:25, Cheree Heppe wrote: >>>> >>>>> Cheree heppe here: >>>>> So far, I use IOS devices and not even a MacVook Air. My Windows screen >>>>> reader, Window-Eyes does everything I require of it without any use of a >>>>> numpad. >>>>> Does a Mac-driven laptop with VoiceOver require use of a numpad to >>>>> operate?I was planning on trying for a MacBook Air soon. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Cheree Heppe >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On 12/12/2011, at 12:49 AM, David Griffith wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have finally found a UK supplier who will provide a high quality >>>>>> ergonomic keyboard for the Mac. >>>>>> >>>>>> It is very expensive compared to Windows versions but I would buy it >>>>>> like a >>>>>> shot because I am fairly desperate to have comfortable typing again. >>>>>> However >>>>>> there is one problem. The keyboard does not have a numeric keypad and I >>>>>> am a >>>>>> fan of num pad commander. >>>>>> The suggestion that they have made to me is that I purchase a separate >>>>>> numpad keyboard from them to go with the ergonomic keyboard . >>>>>> The numpad keyboards they sell are standard PC USB devices but they >>>>>> believe >>>>>> that they will work on a Mac. Having found it impossible to connect a >>>>>> windows ergonomic keyboard which is compatible with the Mac I am >>>>>> suspicious >>>>>> of claims that things should be compatible. >>>>>> Does anybody have successful experience of using a separate numpad >>>>>> keyboard >>>>>> with the Mac? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> David Griffith >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubsc
Re: Num Pad Accessory
Dear Esther As always a very helpful post. I can confirm that after experimentation the numpad accessory that I bought does indeed have the limitations that you describe. There is also a problem on my particular device that there is no insert key or equals key. This means that you cannot use the equals keys to bring up menu bars and you would not be able to use it in Fusion for windows screen readers. I'll ha have to see how it goes.I may end up using one keyboard for serious typing and writing and another for navigating and housekeeping tasks on the Mac. I have spent the serious money on the ergonomic keyboard now and this will I hope be justified as I need to type 100,000 words over the next year. I am sorry I confused you by posting to 2 lists. I posted to the other list first but after a day in which there was no response I tried my luck on here. Regards David Griffith On 17 Dec 2011, at 12:53, Esther wrote: > Hi David, > > I've been meaning to reply to your post, but was getting a bit confused as to > whether my reply should be on this list or on the mac-access list, where you > also posted this question. I haven't had an opportunity to do extensive > testing, but I'll try to summarize a few points that may be relevant to using > external num pads. You are correct that when you set up the USB device it > will not be recognized, but that you can close the keyboard assistant and > just use Numpad Commander. The problem that appears to arise is that some > USB number pads do not maintain the ability to use the modified Numpad > Commander combinations where you press a key on the number pad along with a > modifier key such as the Command key, Option key, or Shift key on your > regular keyboard. What I found previously is that when I turned on keyboard > help mode with VO+K, and pressed key combinations on the attached external > numeric keypad, then exited this mode by pressing the "Escape" key on my > regular laptop keyboard or paired Apple Wireless Keyboard, I lost the > ability to execute the modified Numpad Commander key combinations, although > the unmodified Numpad Commander key bindings would all still work (and could > be re-assigned or customized). I can also use the combinations which use the > NumPad 0 modifier. I think the problem is that the keyboard setup assistant > works by identifying a few default types of keyboards, and you're prompted to > press certain keys to match these identifications. When you press keys on a > keyboard that doesn't have the numpad built in, the keyboard definition used > for your external numpad doesn't use the correct definitions for the modifier > keys. > > There is an iPhone number pad app that will correctly do the modifier key > sequences when your iPhone (or iPod Touch or iPad) is on the same wireless > network as your Mac. It's Edovia's Numpad -- Wireless Numeric Keypad app. > However, it doesn't really work well as a substitute number pad for Numpad > Commander functions because the touch screen interactions are too sensitive > now. As of a few versions of iOS ago (maybe iOS 4.2), you are prone to > getting repeated key strokes when you use this with Numpad Commander as > though you were holding down a key where you here a stuttered repeat. (When > I first tested this app out in Fall 2009, I could use this for Numpad > Commander functions, although it was a little awkward.) > > I'm not sure there's a really good solution to this, but if you're satisfied > with using Numpad Commander assignments with only the NumPad 0 modifier, you > should be OK. You might give feedback to Apple's Accessibility team on this. > I'm used to using a Mac laptop without Numpad Commander, so most of these > tests were done earlier on as experiments. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > > On Dec 16, 2011, at 04:06, David Griffith wrote: > >> This topic drifted away from the original subject but to bring it back I >> spotted a USB numeric keypad on amazon for £7 so decided to take a punt on >> it. >> I have just plugged it in an although the Mac was very confused by it and >> said it did not recognise it as a keyboard it nevertheless works perfectly >> with Voiceover and the Num Pad commander. I just closed keyboard assistant >> and all was fine. I can now go ahead and purchase a Mac Ergonomic keyboard >> and hopefully the masses of typing I have to do inn the next 12 months will >> be a more pleasurable experience. >> >> David griffith >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12/12/2011, at 12:49 AM, Dav
Re: Num Pad Accessory
No - I have to typed 60-80,000 words on my PHD thesis. So i estimate 100,000 words as a conservative estimate when taking into account note taking and drafting. Admittedly I already have a lot of material written but as you say off topic so I will end here. On 19 Dec 2011, at 03:25, Rachel Magario wrote: > I know it is off topic. But, is the 10 words a challenge? Just curious! > Rachel. > On Dec 18, 2011, at 7:42 AM, David Griffith wrote: > >> Dear Esther >> >> As always a very helpful post. >> I can confirm that after experimentation the numpad accessory that I bought >> does indeed have the limitations that you describe. There is also a problem >> on my particular device that there is no insert key or equals key. This >> means that you cannot use the equals keys to bring up menu bars and you >> would not be able to use it in Fusion for windows screen readers. I'll ha >> have to see how it goes.I may end up using one keyboard for serious typing >> and writing and another for navigating and housekeeping tasks on the Mac. >> I have spent the serious money on the ergonomic keyboard now and this will >> I hope be justified as I need to type 100,000 words over the next year. >> I am sorry I confused you by posting to 2 lists. I posted to the other list >> first but after a day in which there was no response I tried my luck on >> here. >> >> Regards >> >> David Griffith >> On 17 Dec 2011, at 12:53, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi David, >>> >>> I've been meaning to reply to your post, but was getting a bit confused as >>> to whether my reply should be on this list or on the mac-access list, where >>> you also posted this question. I haven't had an opportunity to do >>> extensive testing, but I'll try to summarize a few points that may be >>> relevant to using external num pads. You are correct that when you set up >>> the USB device it will not be recognized, but that you can close the >>> keyboard assistant and just use Numpad Commander. The problem that appears >>> to arise is that some USB number pads do not maintain the ability to use >>> the modified Numpad Commander combinations where you press a key on the >>> number pad along with a modifier key such as the Command key, Option key, >>> or Shift key on your regular keyboard. What I found previously is that >>> when I turned on keyboard help mode with VO+K, and pressed key combinations >>> on the attached external numeric keypad, then exited this mode by pressing >>> the "Escape" key on my regular laptop keyboard or paired Apple Wireless >>> Keyboard, I lost the ability to execute the modified Numpad Commander key >>> combinations, although the unmodified Numpad Commander key bindings would >>> all still work (and could be re-assigned or customized). I can also use >>> the combinations which use the NumPad 0 modifier. I think the problem is >>> that the keyboard setup assistant works by identifying a few default types >>> of keyboards, and you're prompted to press certain keys to match these >>> identifications. When you press keys on a keyboard that doesn't have the >>> numpad built in, the keyboard definition used for your external numpad >>> doesn't use the correct definitions for the modifier keys. >>> >>> There is an iPhone number pad app that will correctly do the modifier key >>> sequences when your iPhone (or iPod Touch or iPad) is on the same wireless >>> network as your Mac. It's Edovia's Numpad -- Wireless Numeric Keypad app. >>> However, it doesn't really work well as a substitute number pad for Numpad >>> Commander functions because the touch screen interactions are too sensitive >>> now. As of a few versions of iOS ago (maybe iOS 4.2), you are prone to >>> getting repeated key strokes when you use this with Numpad Commander as >>> though you were holding down a key where you here a stuttered repeat. >>> (When I first tested this app out in Fall 2009, I could use this for Numpad >>> Commander functions, although it was a little awkward.) >>> >>> I'm not sure there's a really good solution to this, but if you're >>> satisfied with using Numpad Commander assignments with only the NumPad 0 >>> modifier, you should be OK. You might give feedback to Apple's >>> Accessibility team on this. I'm used to using a Mac laptop without Numpad >>> Commander, so most of these tests
Re: Creating a distribution or Group mailing list in Address Book?
Have you tried just pressing return on the untitled group? I have achieved this and it was eventually fairly easy. Start with your all contact group. Interact with this and work down the list and press VO command spacebar on all the contact you want to put into the new group. This will select non contiguously your entries which cn hen be copied with command C.(This may only work in Lion) Then go to your new group table an and press command V The only other thing I remember is that you have to restart Mail for the group to be recognised. In mail when you type the group name into the address area mail will then populate the address field with all the individual email addresses from the group. Hope tha helpsPOPULATE 18 Jan 2012, at 09:30, Michael Busboom wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I am managing the translation of a book from German into English, and I will > need to regularly send mail to the translators and editors who are involved > in the project. > > I want to give the distribution list a name and then insert (either manually > or from my contacts in my Address Book) the names of the mail recipients. > > When I went to the address Book and selected "New Group" from the File Menu, > I got a confusing table. In the table, several entries on the left side were > called "Untitled," and I assume that here is where I would insert the name of > the distribution list or group. However, VO never said that this was an edit > field. > > I guess that what I'd really like to know is whether there is a good tutorial > on how to manage the address book. > > Kindest regards to all of you, and thanks for all the help I've received from > you throughout my Mac journey, > > Mike > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Creating a distribution or Group mailing list in Address Book?
When did you add it? Sometimes I find I have to close mail or address book or bvice versa for then to catch up lwith each other on re-opening. You can, of course, add a new contact manually. Lots of interaction needed but you can get to the necessary email field where you could petepaste in the address. On 18 Jan 2012, at 11:07, Michael Busboom wrote: > Thanks for your input, David and yes, it was helpful. Unfortunately, the > next problem I have is that an address, which I thought I had added to my > address book through the Command Y in mail, wasn't in the address book and > so, I could not add it. Do I need to do something else? > > Best regards and thanks, > > Mike > > On 18,Jan,2012, at 10:44 AM, David Griffith wrote: > >> Have you tried just pressing return on the untitled group? >> I have achieved this and it was eventually fairly easy. >> Start with your all contact group. >> Interact with this and work down the list and press VO command spacebar on >> all the contact you want to put into the new group. This will select non >> contiguously your entries which cn hen be copied with command C.(This may >> only work in Lion) >> Then go to your new group table an and press command V >> The only other thing I remember is that you have to restart Mail for the >> group to be recognised. >> In mail when you type the group name into the address area mail will then >> populate the address field with all the individual email addresses from the >> group. >> Hope tha helpsPOPULATE >> >> 18 Jan 2012, at 09:30, Michael Busboom wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> I am managing the translation of a book from German into English, and I >>> will need to regularly send mail to the translators and editors who are >>> involved in the project. >>> >>> I want to give the distribution list a name and then insert (either >>> manually or from my contacts in my Address Book) the names of the mail >>> recipients. >>> >>> When I went to the address Book and selected "New Group" from the File >>> Menu, I got a confusing table. In the table, several entries on the left >>> side were called "Untitled," and I assume that here is where I would insert >>> the name of the distribution list or group. However, VO never said that >>> this was an edit field. >>> >>> I guess that what I'd really like to know is whether there is a good >>> tutorial on how to manage the address book. >>> >>> Kindest regards to all of you, and thanks for all the help I've received >>> from you throughout my Mac journey, >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Creating a distribution or Group mailing list in Address Book?
It definitely takes a little practice but you can get there. Basically it is straightforward when you are used to it. Try the following. Open address book. Press command N A new contact card should come up where you can enter normal name etc. I have set in voiceover preferences my tab key to automatically interact which may help you here. Pressing tab will then take you to all the necessary fields to enter details such as phone number and email address. Alternatively . if you are using normal Voiceover navigation then enter the name details and then you will hear contact information scroll area. Here you have to interact and then you will be able to access all the normal fields. I find using the tab key easier if you have tab key seth up to interact but give it a try. David Griffith . tab On 18 Jan 2012, at 11:49, Michael Busboom wrote: > I added the address two weeks ago. > > The address book seems rather "finicky" with VO, and I wish that it weren't … > or maybe it's just me. > > Mike > > > > On 18,Jan,2012, at 12:31 PM, David Griffith wrote: > >> When did you add it? Sometimes I find I have to close mail or address book >> or bvice versa for then to catch up lwith each other on re-opening. >> You can, of course, add a new contact manually. Lots of interaction >> needed but you can get to the necessary email field where you could >> petepaste in the address. >> On 18 Jan 2012, at 11:07, Michael Busboom wrote: >> >>> Thanks for your input, David and yes, it was helpful. Unfortunately, the >>> next problem I have is that an address, which I thought I had added to my >>> address book through the Command Y in mail, wasn't in the address book and >>> so, I could not add it. Do I need to do something else? >>> >>> Best regards and thanks, >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> On 18,Jan,2012, at 10:44 AM, David Griffith wrote: >>> >>>> Have you tried just pressing return on the untitled group? >>>> I have achieved this and it was eventually fairly easy. >>>> Start with your all contact group. >>>> Interact with this and work down the list and press VO command spacebar on >>>> all the contact you want to put into the new group. This will select non >>>> contiguously your entries which cn hen be copied with command C.(This may >>>> only work in Lion) >>>> Then go to your new group table an and press command V >>>> The only other thing I remember is that you have to restart Mail for the >>>> group to be recognised. >>>> In mail when you type the group name into the address area mail will then >>>> populate the address field with all the individual email addresses from >>>> the group. >>>> Hope tha helpsPOPULATE >>>> >>>> 18 Jan 2012, at 09:30, Michael Busboom wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>> >>>>> I am managing the translation of a book from German into English, and I >>>>> will need to regularly send mail to the translators and editors who are >>>>> involved in the project. >>>>> >>>>> I want to give the distribution list a name and then insert (either >>>>> manually or from my contacts in my Address Book) the names of the mail >>>>> recipients. >>>>> >>>>> When I went to the address Book and selected "New Group" from the File >>>>> Menu, I got a confusing table. In the table, several entries on the left >>>>> side were called "Untitled," and I assume that here is where I would >>>>> insert the name of the distribution list or group. However, VO never >>>>> said that this was an edit field. >>>>> >>>>> I guess that what I'd really like to know is whether there is a good >>>>> tutorial on how to manage the address book. >>>>> >>>>> Kindest regards to all of you, and thanks for all the help I've received >>>>> from you throughout my Mac journey, >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Fwd: Turning Off Google Chrome Vox
> > I have been trying to experiment with Google Chrome Vox but I think I want to > use voiceover as my main screen reader and only bring up Vox when there is an > area Voiceover is struggling with. Does anybody know how to quickly turn > Chrome Vox off and then on again? > > Regards > David Griffith > David Griffith > d.griff...@btinternet.com > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Vmware fusion 3 and jaws 12 dropping authorisation key
If you change any aspects of the Virtual Machine Jaws will think it has been copied onto a new machine. e. Go to then Freedom Scientific web site and look for the activation page. Here you can send an email asking for your activation to be reset. I have had to do this twice with my fusion VMs. On 25 Jan 2012, at 00:42, Cam wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm running win 7 on a macbook air with 4gb of ram, split evenly > between snow leopard and windows 7. I'm also running jaws 12. Every > time I restart the win 7 machine in vmware fuison 3, I am asked to > authorise jaws. Has anyone found a work around for this? > Cam > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: a little help with vmware fusion please?
I do not have Skype but tell me what you are finding difficult and I may be ab able to help. I ave used Fusion 3 and now 4 with Windows 7 and Jaws. There are a few pitfalls but the main one is that you will only get proper regular keyboard focus if you switch Fusion into full screen mode with control command and return. I also find it important to turn Voiceover off as in contrast to the experience of people who say that there is no conflict I find loads of conflicts with Windows 7. David Griffith On 24 Jan 2012, at 18:16, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: > Hi Folks, > > hope all are well. > > just a quick email to ask if there's anyone here using VMWare fusion with > JAWS? if so, could someone spare me some time to help me get used to the > software and offer some tricks and tips? I'm using it as a test area for > software before I move to an official windows diagnostic laptop. > > if anyone can help and is willing to spare a bit of time over skype, I'd be > grateful of your time. > > lew > > skype: turningbytouch > > > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsforthebl...@mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > Twitter: @macsfortheblind > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working > apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a > copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help > anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessible Typing Software
It is not really an answer but personally I found the Typing tutors unsatisfactory . What I di eventually was purchase an audio typing course from the RNIB and made sure that my typing echo was set to letter and words. This did the trick nicely for me and within a couple of weeks I was touch typing happily. Basically I used earphones to listen to the audio tutorial and headphones over these to listen to the computer. I then used to practise by playing some of my favourite musicand trying to type out the lyrics out whilst I listened. Of course I was not fast enough to get all the lyrics but it was great way of practising. . . Of course this is all possible to do with a Mac as well as a Windows computer. David griffith On 31 Jan 2012, at 21:22, Rodney wrote: > Anyone know of software for the Mac that is of course VO friendly, > that will teach someone how to type. > > On the Window's side I always point people to Talking Typing Teacher. > > Anything like that for the Mac? > > Thanks. > Rodney > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Managing Documents and Folders
If you are using Lion all you do is press option command V to paste using move rather than copy the selected files. David Griffith On 9 Feb 2012, at 18:37, Marc wrote: > In my documents folder, I would like to create new folders. I figured > out how to create and name new folders. Now I would like to move the > documents into folders. As far as I can tell, I can copy and paste the > documents into the new folder but the document remains in the > documents folder. Does anybody have any suggestions so that I don't > need to delete the file from the documents folder after I have moved > it? > Thanks > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Changing Sounds in Apple Mail
According to what I read in a book about switching to a Mac from Windows you will not find this customisation option available on the Mac. Personally I am happy if this provides a stable machine. I think this is one of the trade offs fsfor the increased stability of the Mac.. There is not the same level of system configuration. Lots of things you can do in Terminal and automator but I have yet to learn these. David Griffith On 19 Feb 2012, at 16:49, Emilio Hernandez wrote: > Hello folks, > > I am curious if anyone has been successful at changing other sounds in apple > mail? > I have changed the default new mail notification, but I want to change the > swoosh sent mail sound to something else. I have the .aiff file, but not sure > how to go about replacing the original sent mail sound. Any help would be > greatly appreciated - thanks. > > Sent from my iMac > Twitter: TheOrangeCircle > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: fn key on the full sized keyboard
My full sized Apple extended keyboard does not have an FN key. I replaced the thin keyboard which came with my IMac as it was torture for my wrists. I bought an old style IMac keyboard which was generally much better for me but as I say does not have an FN key. Where people suggest it is on the six pack set of keys is instead a help key. .. i was initially concerned about this but have found no occasion in practice when I need to use the FN key. . I still have volume up and down and eject keys working fine which is pretty much all the hardware control I need from the keyboard. On 21 Feb 2012, at 23:22, erik burggraaf wrote: > That's where it is on a portable keyboard, but not on the full size. The > bottom row of the full size has duel alt, control, and option keys one set to > each side of the space bar. > > The portable keyboard has fn, on the bottom left, then a full complement of > control, option, command. Then command and option on the right of the space > bar. Which still begs the question... > > Erik Burggraaf > Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, New > drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, visit > http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com > > Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 > or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2012-02-21, at 4:39 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> FM key is on the bottom left hand corner left of the control key. >> >> Kawal. >> On 21 Feb 2012, at 21:09, erik burggraaf wrote: >> >>> Hi all, I need to know, where is the fn key on a full sized apple keyboard? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Erik Burggraaf >>> Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, New >>> drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, visit >>> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com >>> >>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Waking up a virtual machine
Are you using Fusion in full screen mode? I found it worked better in full screen. David Griffith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: paging down on web?
You can read down by line in Safari, you just need to enable line as a navigation element in Voiceover Utility settings for the web rota. This is not enabled by default so you will have to VO F8 to go to Settings and web rota to enable this. In terms of reading a paragrahp at a time I just normally use Quick Nav and just press the right cursor key. To cycle through web rota settings once enabled just press either right and up arrow or left and up arrow. with line as your navigation set in the web rota and quick nav on you can, at the same time, read by line by pressing the down arrow and paragraph by pressing the right arrow. David Griffith 06/2014 11:44, Dionipher Presas Herrera wrote: how to page down on safari? its seems i cant do page down or page up on the web, and there's no read by paragraph or line in web router? i am talking about safari, but in pages i can do read by lines and on mail why cant i do it on safari? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: paging down on web?
This is a little puzzling as I have just checked my web rota on Safari using Mavericks system and lines is there alongside words and characters as normal. Are you sure it is the web rota settings that you have adjusted? David Griffith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: vmware fusion vo question
What I do is always use the Virtual Machine in full screen mode -control command and enter. If I want to return to the Mac all I have to do is press control command enter again and then command tab will take me away from the Fusion Window. David GriffithOn 20/06/2014 05:38, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote: what is the commands to go in and out of a virtual machine? can't remember what the camm command is to go from windows to mac onn Hank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Alex on IOS 8
Yousimply ask your phone provider for a replacement sim. This is what I did when I transferred my Virgin sim from a Nokia to my iPhone. On 21/06/2014 08:41, Christopher Hallsworth wrote: Well yes could do that. But the 4s take a microsim whereas the 5s take a nanosim. So how exactly would this work? Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 20/06/2014 21:28, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: I never upgrade my phone, I just buy the phone out right and put the same contract Sim in it. I will not pay extra for something that I want why should I have to pay extra? On 20 Jun 2014, at 09:15 pm, David Taylor wrote: I'm due an upgrade in September anyway and hadn't seen any reason to upgrade until recently. IOS8 will change that though. On 20 Jun 2014, at 20:15, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: I'm going to the Apple Store as soon as the sixth comes out! I will not be stuck with the 5S especially if it has wireless charging! On 20 Jun 2014, at 08:09 pm, Matt Dierckens wrote: I have a guess that alex will only be available to 5S users, which means that those of us who have the 5c and under will be stuck with Samantha. I'm only speculating this because OSX and the 5S are both 64 bit systems. Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available now. Take advantage of our 10% discount for the month of June. Spots are limited, sign up here http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/ On Jun 20, 2014, at 3:06 PM, David Taylor wrote: I agree. I have to use the Irish voice on IOS for the same reasons but will switch to Alex if he sounds anything like. I don't know anybody who likes Daniel on any platform. Cheers Dave On 20 Jun 2014, at 20:02, Matt Dierckens wrote: I honestly wish we had the option of using different american, australian and british voices. I mean, apple has them available to them, why can't the users have a non-jailbreaking option? Matt Dierckens Macintosh Trainer Blind Access Training www.blindaccesstraining.com 1-877-774-7670 ext. 3 matt...@blindaccesstraining.com Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available now. Take advantage of our 10% discount for the month of June. Spots are limited, sign up here http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/ On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:56 PM, Jessica D wrote: Yes, I do not like the Daniel voice. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 20, 2014, at 2:41 PM, isaac wrote: I would love that too. I currently use samantha. isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com Skype gold_wildcat On Jun 20, 2014, at 1:33 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Yes, I would love that. My hearing impairment is such that I understand male voices much better than female ones. Currently, I use Daniel, but I'd much rather use Alex. Teresa "Twinkle, twinkle, little bat How I wonder what you're at" --Lewis Carroll On Jun 20, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Jessica Moss wrote: Oh wow, that will be amazing, I always wondered when/if that would ever happen. On Jun 19, 2014, at 5:23 PM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote: We're all curious at this moment so let's be patient. Christopher Hallsworth Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu On 19/06/2014 19:33, Jessica D wrote: I would be curious to know if he would work on my iPhone 5 and iPad fourth-generation. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 19, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Chris G wrote: Hi, I'm pretty excited about having Alex speaking under ios 8. Will he work on the iPad 3rd generation as well as the latest iPad mini? Thanks Chris -- Chris G Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Email: jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com Phone: 888-678-1433 Ext 101 Fax: 888-766-7985 Direct: (716) 965-5717 web: www.mysticaccess.com twitter: JediKent -- Chris G Mystic Access Where the magic is in learning. 733 Delaware Rd 341 Buffalo, NY 14223 Email: jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com Phone: 888-678-1433 Ext 101 Fax: 888-766-7985 Direct: (716) 965-5717 web: www.mysticaccess.com twitter: JediKent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://gro
Re: inserting an insert
If you are using NVDA why don't you just go into NVDASettings and set up the Caps Lock key as the NVDA key? From memory this is in Key oard but it may be under General. David Griffith On 27/06/2014 22:01, Devin Prater wrote: Hi all. So I have VMWare, and a windows bootcamp partition and all, but how do I insert the insert key? I went to the vmware settings and put the caps lock as the insert key in the key map settings, but it doesn't work. What can I do? NVDA depends on it, LOL. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Macking the windows restore on bootcamp, is it possible?
This is one reason why I think a Fusion Virtual Machine strategy is so much easier than Boot Camp. Just copy the Virtual Machine file to an external drive and job done. For what you want to do I know that some drive backup programs like Paragon work with boot camp but I am not sure how accessible they are. Snapshot is a good accessible option but you may need to check that it works with Boot Camp. David Griffith On 28/06/2014 04:39, ramy moustafa wrote: Hi all: don't know if this is ithe right place to ask this question, but i did bootcamp with mavericks and windows 7 on my mac mini, now my problem is that i installed many many apps on my windows and i need to creat windows image that i can restore later, will it work on bootcamp, when i need to restore it, will i follow the same steps as without bootcamp? or restoring windows on bootcamp is not available? thanks so much Ramy moustafa saber Musicc instructor at: faculty of musical education music arranger and sound engineer Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: item chooser
The behaviour of item chooser has changed in Yosemite. What used to happen is that there would be a delay, sometimes quite a long delay and then item chooser in its entirety would come up. Now, on my system at least, item chooser will appear much sooner but not with the full list of items. Item chooser will normally announce the number of items initially loaded. What I think is happening is that the longer you wait the more that items are loaded into the chooser. So if you bring up item chooser in Safari not all the page elements will be immediately available. If you continue to press the end button or equivalent on a laptop keyboard you will hear that the last item in the list keeps changing as the list is expanded to include all the elements of a page. Personally I have grown to like this change as it means that item chooser comes up generally much faster than before. However if you are looking for an element further down the page you may have to wait before the item you are looking for will be added to and available in the list. If you are used to hearing item chooser and believe that an item is immediately available this is confusing. However eventually everything as before should be added to the chooser. David Griffith On 19/02/2015 17:19, Jean wrote: Hello All: I have just up-graded to Yosemite after waiting for things to settle down. Things seem ok on the whole so far except for the item chooser in Safari. Are there any strategies for beating it into submission? Jean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: track changes in an RTF?
I am afraid this is not correct. Pages does not directly support rtf files, though I agree that this is surprising. See http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202227 You can of course copy and paste text from an rtf file in TextEdit to Pages. In terms of the original question I suspect that this has to be opened in a version of Word somewhere and re saved as a Word document and then the track changes may be available to Pages. I believe that this may be possible in the Mac version of Office, as even though the edit content is currently inaccessible I understand the menu system is accessible. It might be just easiest though to ask the originator of the file to resend it as a Word document. David Griffith On 20/02/2015 19:26, Tyler Thompson wrote: Rtf files can be opened by any text editor. TextEdit can handle it and pages should be able to handle it. Surprisingly safari can open rtf files as well. I would check to make sure it's really an rtf and not a file.rtf.sneakextension Sent from my iPhone On Feb 20, 2015, at 12:14 PM, Aleeha Dudley mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com>> wrote: hey all, I received an RTF with track changes in it. How can I access them on my Mac? It appears that Pages won’t open the file. Thanks, Aleeha Aleeha Dudley and Seeing Eye Dog Dallas Vice President, Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users Vice President, Ohio Association of Blind Students Both proud divisions of the National Federation of the Blind of Ohio Email:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com <mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back. “The wind of heaven is that which blows between a horse’s ears.” - Arabian proverb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Reading columns in pdfs
I hope that someone can advise of an easier and cheaper solution for this but when encountering this problem I use a method on windows but in theory should also work on the Mac side but I have not tried it. The only really accessible way of getting access to columns or tables in PDF documents in my experience is to convert them into Word or web htm Documents and the best application for that on the Windows side for layout preservation was Abbey Finereader Pro, which whilst converting by OCR did a good job of preserving layout. I think your best hope is that Abbey interprets it as a table rather than a column. Columns are typically read in a column like a newspaper article which is presumably what you do not want. On the Mac side I also have Abbey Finereader Pro and theoretically it should also, being based on the same recognition engine do a similar job of preserving layout but I have not tried a PDF with columns and tables on the Mac as I am used to doing this task in Windows. On the Mac I would suggest that trying to export the result from Abbey Finereader in web htm format so that Safari could read the document might be your best bet, or possibly Pages can cope with a word processing format with columns. Pages is supposed to work with tables with Voiceover so there is some hope that it might cope with columns as well. You might need to experiment. David Griffith On 21/02/2015 01:51, Traci Duncan wrote: Hi all, I’m sending this to both lists, because I’m reading this pdf on my Mac & my iDevices. I have a recipe booklet in PDF and many of the recipes are in 2 columns. For example chicken & rice is beside potato soup. When I attempt to read the individual recipe, they get all confused via VoiceOver. Is there any settings in Preview or iBooks that I can change, so I can read the columns separately? Is there an alternative app that may work better? Thanks, Traci Ready set CLIMB , CONQUER, CURE . Please help me fundraise for the Leukemia Lymphoma Society. The climb up 1311 steps is difficult but pales in comparison to what patients and their families feel during treatment. Every day, more than 347 LLS sponsored researchers come closer to the goal of finding a cure for leukemia and related blood cancers. Locally, LLS funds 8 researchers at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center and University of Washington Medical Center. Your support and commitment to the mission of LLS enables this important work to continue. Please go to my page to learn more & donate. Thank you! http://www.llswa.org/site/TR/Events/BigClimb?px=1570735&pg=personal&fr_id=1460 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: A few questions.
Whilst the i OS app is accessible the last time I checked the Kindle App on the Mac platform had no Accessibility Plugin and the book content text was not accessible via voiceover. Certainly the only way I can use the Kindle app on a Mac is via a fusion Window. Whilst it is possible to break the DRM of Kindle Books and whilst a legal defense for doing so may possibly be available for visually impaired people under the 2003 Act I am not certain that it can be assumed to hold force without some legal test. So active discussion of strategies for breaking DRM on this list may not be appropriate. . The rights of visually impaired people to breach DRM and copyright is linked to the lack of accessible delivery and on other platforms at least Amazon has made available a number of accessible alternative, and these are available on a Mac via boot camp or Fusion. Amazon could conceivably cite these in justification of preserving the integrity of their DRM. . I agree that the Mac OS should be a platform that accessibility should be extended to though. There are a number of commercial tools and there is nothing to stop you Googling something like Kindle DRM Removal. David Griffith On 26/02/2015 22:39, Lorie McCloud wrote: I think the Kindle app for iPad and iPhone is accessible. I’m curious about the Kindle Mac app myself. I’ve used it on the iPhone though. I think it would be easier than trying to convert them although I’d like to know how to do that too. My Youtube Channel: “www.youtube.com/LorieMcCloud On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Tim Emmons wrote: Ok, not sure if this went through earlier but I’m going to resend it hopefully without all the random. Forgive the crossposting but I’m stumped. I was trying to find a DrM removal tool to read Kindle books in Voice Dream, and in the process realized that I needed to possibly find out how to move around in documents and data to transfer things to my phone, say to Voice Dream, or remove a book from Kindle, to run through the protection tool since I don’t think the version of Kindle for the Mac is accessible, and have hit a brick wall. Can someone direct me in all this where to find the tools necessary, how to get to documents and data running the latest iTunes 12.1 running the latest Yosemite, and an iPhone 5 S running iOs 8.1.3. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks again and take care y’all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: A few questions.
Actually I got a little confused on the nature of list I was responding to and believed I was responding on a UK based listBritish Computing of the Blind .The legal comments I made were in relation to the UK only. I know a little about US legislation but certainly people should not necessarily read . any of the comments I made as necessarily applying to the US. David Griffith > On 27 Feb 2015, at 05:50, Lorie McCloud wrote: > > I did it all the time in windows but I can understand why you don’t want that > discussed here. I know how to use google or start page or whatever. (smile) > My Youtube Channel: “www.youtube.com/LorieMcCloud > >> On Feb 26, 2015, at 9:34 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries >> wrote: >> >> While I'm not sure about the legal ramifications of breaking DRM, I wouldn't >> call running the Amazon Kindle app on the Mac using VMWare or Bootcamp as >> being 'available' on the Mac. Sort of like saying an automobile can be >> driven just fine on a railroad track by loading and towing it on a flatbed >> train car. >> >> CB >> >> On 2/26/15 7:27 PM, David Griffith wrote: >>> Whilst the i OS app is accessible the last time I checked the Kindle App on >>> the Mac platform had no Accessibility Plugin and the book content text was >>> not accessible via voiceover. >>> Certainly the only way I can use the Kindle app on a Mac is via a fusion >>> Window. >>> >>> Whilst it is possible to break the DRM of Kindle Books and whilst a legal >>> defense for doing so may possibly be available for visually impaired people >>> under the 2003 Act I am not certain that it can be assumed to hold force >>> without some legal test. So active discussion of strategies for breaking >>> DRM on this list may not be appropriate. . The rights of visually impaired >>> people to breach DRM and copyright is linked to the lack of accessible >>> delivery and on other platforms at least Amazon has made available a number >>> of accessible alternative, and these are available on a Mac via boot camp >>> or Fusion. Amazon could conceivably cite these in justification of >>> preserving the integrity of their DRM. . I agree that the Mac OS should >>> be a platform that accessibility should be extended to though. >>> There are a number of commercial tools and there is nothing to stop you >>> Googling something like Kindle DRM Removal. >>> David Griffith >>> On 26/02/2015 22:39, Lorie McCloud wrote: >>>> I think the Kindle app for iPad and iPhone is accessible. I’m curious >>>> about the Kindle Mac app myself. I’ve used it on the iPhone though. I >>>> think it would be easier than trying to convert them although I’d like to >>>> know how to do that too. >>>> My Youtube Channel: “www.youtube.com/LorieMcCloud >>>> >>>>> On Feb 26, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Tim Emmons wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Ok, not sure if this went through earlier but I’m going to resend it >>>>> hopefully without all the random. Forgive the crossposting but I’m >>>>> stumped. I was trying to find a DrM removal tool to read Kindle books in >>>>> Voice Dream, and in the process realized that I needed to possibly find >>>>> out how to move around in documents and data to transfer things to my >>>>> phone, say to Voice Dream, or remove a book from Kindle, to run through >>>>> the protection tool since I don’t think the version of Kindle for the >>>>> Mac is accessible, and have hit a brick wall. Can someone direct me in >>>>> all this where to find the tools necessary, how to get to documents and >>>>> data running the latest iTunes 12.1 running the latest Yosemite, and an >>>>> iPhone 5 S running iOs 8.1.3. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks again >>>>> and take care y’all. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >&g
Applescript challenge
I guess I should set this up as a project for myself but I know nothing about Applescripts. One of the really frustrating things for me is the lack of a page down or up command which can work in Mail Messages. This means that in really long text email messages, for example in a mail digest the only navigation options are by line or to the top or bottom of the email. Even a quick nav paragraph granularity will only deliver a single line as there is a line break at the end of each line. This makes navigating these digests tedious especially if they contain lots of repeated previous messages contents in their threads. I wonder how difficult it would be to set up a script which had the affect of forcing the cursor to jump say 25 or 30 lines down or up, thus emulating a page up or down command. I have tried all the available VO navigation options in Numpad and Keypad commander but none of them will work in Mail Messages so this would be a genuinely useful script. David Griffith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Applescript challenge
I do not routinely use trackpad commander but unless I am mistaken I understand this command to be a command to read a page? Actually the way I use my mac I normally sit about 10feet away from it in an armchair with headphones and keyboard and never use a trackpad so I will have to try it out by making a rare foray to my actual Mac. However what I want to do is not read the page but navigate or jump down 25 or 30 lines without the tedium of reading all the repeated messages in a Mail digest. David Griffith On 27/02/2015 13:13, Jürgen Fleger wrote: Did you try a three finger swipe up and down when interacted with the e-mail content? Jürgen Am 27.02.2015 um 13:59 schrieb David Griffith : I guess I should set this up as a project for myself but I know nothing about Applescripts. One of the really frustrating things for me is the lack of a page down or up command which can work in Mail Messages. This means that in really long text email messages, for example in a mail digest the only navigation options are by line or to the top or bottom of the email. Even a quick nav paragraph granularity will only deliver a single line as there is a line break at the end of each line. This makes navigating these digests tedious especially if they contain lots of repeated previous messages contents in their threads. I wonder how difficult it would be to set up a script which had the affect of forcing the cursor to jump say 25 or 30 lines down or up, thus emulating a page up or down command. I have tried all the available VO navigation options in Numpad and Keypad commander but none of them will work in Mail Messages so this would be a genuinely useful script. David Griffith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: MP3 tagging utility for mac?
IDE Tag Editor is accessible and pretty good though you have to get used to the way it works which is very ddiffernt from Mp3Tag on Windows. . With some tasks in IDETag Editor it is better to open multiple files from within Finder whilst in other circumstances it is better to open a folder from within the program. Essentially opening for example 10 files from Finder will open 10 windows in which you can edit information on each track, which may be useful if you are for example numbering each track whilst in contrast Opening a group of files within the app will open not 10 windows but 1 summary window which is often more efficient to use and you can for example force the filename to tag titles in one summary operation. It is not as full featured as Mp3Tag, it does not for example, have a auto-numbering wizard or recourse to Tag online databases, at least I have not found these tools in the app. it is also not free and cost to buy. Once you get used to the interface it is fine for basic tag editing though. It is also useful for identifying information about Mp3 files that Apple has bizarrely decided to hide from the Finder interface like Mp3 Bit Rate. However it will only provide the tagged information on bit rate and not analyse this for you.the he main annoyance is that it only handles Mp3 and I think Apple uncompressed files and will not for exsample handle m4a files which is odd for a Mac program. MP3Tag will handle m4a and WMA as well. David Griffith On 07/03/2015 03:40, Joe Quinn wrote: Is there a good mp3 tagging utility similar to mp3 tag for windows for mac? I don't want to have to use itunes, I'd like my files to be in a listview and I just tag away. Or is this just a dream and I'll have to use windows for my tagging needs? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Clean install of Mountain Lion and the possible effect n Bootcamp
doing a clean install has never affected myBoot Camp Partition. David GriffithOn 07/03/2015 14:00, Graham wrote: Hi, I am selling my old MBP which has the OS Mountain Lion installed. If i do a clean install of the OS, will this damage the Windows7 Bootcamp partition? Many thanks in advance for any advice given. Graham -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: button click being ignored
I do not know the site in question but when this happens to me it is normally because there is a check box which needs to be checked which either Voiceover is not picking up or which I have missed. Another option is to try hitting VO Command F5 and then trying shift VO Space to perform a virtual mouse click on the button. David Griffith On 09/03/2015 10:13, Stuart Russell wrote: This morning, I attempted to set up an account at Best buy. When I finished the account creation process, I clicked on the continue button. However, this button press was ignored & I was unable to finish the process. Is there a trick to this? Stuart -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Safari on the Mac
I have changed the subject line to reflect the direction the discussion is going. My own observations on Safari is that it is my preferred browser on all platforms for general news and page reading largely because of the excellent Reader function. However like others I find that there are serious obstacles to using Safari and Voiceover on many websites. Generally these problems appear related to sites involving financial security measures / password verification and after various problems experienced I reluctantly have decided to revert to Windows for many task. These include. 1. My Nat West Bank site which is unusable with Safari and Voiceover and dumps me out at unpredictable moments. Entering passwords on this site under Safari is also very confusing as there is no audible key echo, even a click. Whether this is a Safari or Voiceover problem I do not know but this log in section and other parts of the site works fine with both Firefox and IE with a range of Window Screen Readers so I suspect it may be a Voiceover issue. 2. There are problems for me with the multiple shopping websites which use the UK Verified by Visa security password verification system for authorizing payments. To be fair I have occasionally managed to get this to work on Safari but on too many occasions Voiceover does not recognize the edits boxes on the page, or even when it does it does not seem able to read out the message content asking for characters from your password. On many occasions Voiceover does not give any feedback at all, even a click when attempting to enter text into these edit boxes which is confusing and has in the past resulted in me having to reset my password because of too many log in attempts. This means that even if I do the first part of a shop on Safari I normally switch to Windows to complete the checkout of my trolley or basket to avoid experiencing these problems. What would help would be a screen refresh or screen redraw function as available in Jaws or Window-Eyes as this resolves many focus issues on that platform but I am not sure that this is a technology available to Voiceover , at least I have never found it so it would be great if somebody disabused me of this. I have reported these issues to Apple Accessibility and pointed out that in the UK at least we are talking about the most major web providers. I think Nat West is still the biggest online bank and all Nat West customers have to use Verified by Visa if they are to use major online stores like Tescos and Sainsburys. Hopefully one day it will be sorted out. David Griffithto in . of the 2015 19:50, Christopher Hallsworth wrote: I found this with my electricity company. I couldn't subscribe to one of their flat rate plans with Safari but could using Firefox under Windows. On 17/03/2015 13:48, Phil Halton wrote: I have been finding that safari fails quite a bit in certain websites where I try to make a purchase. I can think of three websites off-hand where I recently was kicked out using Safari. It just doesn’t work with Safari. Even my bank yells a bit when I log on with safari although it lets me in. In these cases, I use internet explorer in a windows VM and problem solved. I checked to see that safari had JAVA enabled, but beyond that I can’t think of what might be the problem. Maybe Safari just isn’t a main stream browser and can’t handle sophisticated websites. I like using safari, but I can’t rely on it for all my internet browsing and need a backup like IE in windows. Too bad! On Mar 17, 2015, at 5:56 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! I was trying to purchase Clean my mac yesterday. When i came to the payment method there was 3 unlabled radiobuttons to select payment method. Very annoying to not be able to buy a mac program from my mac. I have to do this in linux instead. /A -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Safari on the Mac
I did so last year but so far to no affect. DavidGriffith On 17/03/2015 20:34, Joseph wrote: Hello, Please express this to Apple Accessibility. accessibil...@apple.com <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> On Mar 17, 2015, at 1:29 PM, David Griffith wrote: I have changed the subject line to reflect the direction the discussion is going. My own observations on Safari is that it is my preferred browser on all platforms for general news and page reading largely because of the excellent Reader function. However like others I find that there are serious obstacles to using Safari and Voiceover on many websites. Generally these problems appear related to sites involving financial security measures / password verification and after various problems experienced I reluctantly have decided to revert to Windows for many task. These include. 1. My Nat West Bank site which is unusable with Safari and Voiceover and dumps me out at unpredictable moments. Entering passwords on this site under Safari is also very confusing as there is no audible key echo, even a click. Whether this is a Safari or Voiceover problem I do not know but this log in section and other parts of the site works fine with both Firefox and IE with a range of Window Screen Readers so I suspect it may be a Voiceover issue. 2. There are problems for me with the multiple shopping websites which use the UK Verified by Visa security password verification system for authorizing payments. To be fair I have occasionally managed to get this to work on Safari but on too many occasions Voiceover does not recognize the edits boxes on the page, or even when it does it does not seem able to read out the message content asking for characters from your password. On many occasions Voiceover does not give any feedback at all, even a click when attempting to enter text into these edit boxes which is confusing and has in the past resulted in me having to reset my password because of too many log in attempts. This means that even if I do the first part of a shop on Safari I normally switch to Windows to complete the checkout of my trolley or basket to avoid experiencing these problems. What would help would be a screen refresh or screen redraw function as available in Jaws or Window-Eyes as this resolves many focus issues on that platform but I am not sure that this is a technology available to Voiceover , at least I have never found it so it would be great if somebody disabused me of this. I have reported these issues to Apple Accessibility and pointed out that in the UK at least we are talking about the most major web providers. I think Nat West is still the biggest online bank and all Nat West customers have to use Verified by Visa if they are to use major online stores like Tescos and Sainsburys. Hopefully one day it will be sorted out. David Griffithto in . of the 2015 19:50, Christopher Hallsworth wrote: I found this with my electricity company. I couldn't subscribe to one of their flat rate plans with Safari but could using Firefox under Windows. On 17/03/2015 13:48, Phil Halton wrote: I have been finding that safari fails quite a bit in certain websites where I try to make a purchase. I can think of three websites off-hand where I recently was kicked out using Safari. It just doesn’t work with Safari. Even my bank yells a bit when I log on with safari although it lets me in. In these cases, I use internet explorer in a windows VM and problem solved. I checked to see that safari had JAVA enabled, but beyond that I can’t think of what might be the problem. Maybe Safari just isn’t a main stream browser and can’t handle sophisticated websites. I like using safari, but I can’t rely on it for all my internet browsing and need a backup like IE in windows. Too bad! On Mar 17, 2015, at 5:56 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! I was trying to purchase Clean my mac yesterday. When i came to the payment method there was 3 unlabled radiobuttons to select payment method. Very annoying to not be able to buy a mac program from my mac. I have to do this in linux instead. /A -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit htt
Re: Safari on the Mac
The division between responsibilities between screen readers and application access is always an issue I agree. Sometimes it is clear. Microsoft latest Word is an obvious example where they have clearly neglected to allow Voiceover to hook into the edit areas. I think the issue about Safari and Voiceover is more difficult. Apple has full responsibility for both applications. Macs are still a minority platform for most website developers and I think few corporations will invest in multiple web architectures to suit minority platforms. The exception is the existence of mobile site versions of web pages which sometimes offer better access. I think it is highly unlikely though that web site providers will invest in Mac specific versions of their web sites, especially if sighted Mac users not using Voiceover will apparently cope OK. In this situation I believe that the only realistic hope is that the access team at Apple is somehow going to get Voiceover to match the screen reading access on these more difficult financial sites that the Windows Screen Readers are currently achieving. I did point out to Accessibility at Apple that these sites were the major online providers serving millions of customers in total so hopefully they will respond. Apparently these sites work well if your bank does not require Verified by Visa to authorize online purchases so this seems to be one of the major stumbling blocks. The other problem is demonstrating the problem as of course these verification screens are behind password protected areas so you cannot simply send a link to demonstrate the issue. I have not actually tried one of these for a couple of months so will have to give it a check later just to make sure that nothing magical has happened recently. I am a little nervous of this as I have had to end up resetting bank passwords etc in the past which is areal pain but if some improvement has occurred I will update. David Griffith On 18/03/2015 01:41, Colin Matthews wrote: Hi! OK I’m no expert but also could some of these problems be that sites do not code properly for Safari on the Mac I always hear sites talking about jaws window eyes and NVDA and sometimes IDivices but no mention of Mac and voice over! This is on UK sites and of course they say their accessible compliant! So maybe some are out of Apples hands! Colin On 17 Mar 2015, at 23:10, Joseph wrote: Hello, I know. While I’m sure that things sometimes get corrected, still at other times, I kind of have my doubts. But here’s hoping that Apple listens and will in time correct things. I wish they would demonstrate a little more willing to the consumer that they are really trying to correct accessibility concerns. On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:06 PM, David Griffith wrote: I did so last year but so far to no affect. DavidGriffith On 17/03/2015 20:34, Joseph wrote: Hello, Please express this to Apple Accessibility. accessibil...@apple.com<mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> On Mar 17, 2015, at 1:29 PM, David Griffith wrote: I have changed the subject line to reflect the direction the discussion is going. My own observations on Safari is that it is my preferred browser on all platforms for general news and page reading largely because of the excellent Reader function. However like others I find that there are serious obstacles to using Safari and Voiceover on many websites. Generally these problems appear related to sites involving financial security measures / password verification and after various problems experienced I reluctantly have decided to revert to Windows for many task. These include. 1. My Nat West Bank site which is unusable with Safari and Voiceover and dumps me out at unpredictable moments. Entering passwords on this site under Safari is also very confusing as there is no audible key echo, even a click. Whether this is a Safari or Voiceover problem I do not know but this log in section and other parts of the site works fine with both Firefox and IE with a range of Window Screen Readers so I suspect it may be a Voiceover issue. 2. There are problems for me with the multiple shopping websites which use the UK Verified by Visa security password verification system for authorising payments. To be fair I have occasionally managed to get this to work on Safari but on too many occasions Voiceover does not recognise the edits boxes on the page, or even when it does it does not seem able to read out the message content asking for characters from your password. On many occasions Voiceover does not give any feedback at all, even a click when attempting to enter text into these edit boxes which is confusing and has in the past resulted in me having to reset my password because of too many log in attempts. This means that even if I do the first part of a shop on Safari I normally switch to Windows to complete the checkout of my trolley or basket to avoid experiencing these pr
Re: various OS X questions with voiceover
That is correct but you will also have to navigate into the dialogue and interact a couple of times to get into the meat of the download message. My own personal preference is to set up a Folder Alert service on the downloads folder. This brings a message up whenever a download starts and then brings up another message when the download is completed. There are pros and cons to this, the major con is that the message is not automatically announced by Voiceover and you have to use VO reading commands to read the dialogue which will otherwise stay silent. However as you will be expecting something to come up after pressing a download link this is not too much of a problem. I covered this in one of my Podcasts which should still be on Apple Vis I think. David Griffith On 18/03/2015 22:12, Eugenia Firth wrote: If I remember right, the Macintosh command to check your downloads is option command L, and then you press The escape key to get out of it. Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Mar 18, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Pressing vo+a will read from your cursor position. Safari does not really give any indication that a fileis downloading, you will need to go to the toolbar if it's enabled, and check the download status there. Original message: Hello all: I’ve been slowly using the mac a lot more while in class just to be able to pick up the skills with it. There are a couple things that are bothering me, however which I’d like to figure out if someone could help. First, when in Facebook messages using hotspots doesn’t seem to work unless the content is not dynamic. I could just jump to an edit box (then go back up from there), but that’s not really the best solution since the edit key was taken away. there is a way to jump to an edit box in the help (vo+h twice) but there’s not a key. Can I assign one? 2. When reading a document, I know vo+b will read from the top, but I’d like to read from the position where my cursor is. Is this possible? 3. When Safari starts downloading something, it doesn’t make any indication that it’s actually downloading. This results in me clicking a link a couple times, assuming it’s broken or something else and I have 5 versions of that file. Is there a way for notifications? 4. Finally, I use adium a lot for the messages. I like the timestamps, but I’d love to be able to shut off the graphics and the weird group things where sometimes it’ll group messages. Any idea if this is possible? TIA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: updating adobe flash player on the Mac
I would simply add that on occasions I find that I have to use virtual mouse click, that is shift VO space on buttons for the install to proceed rather than VO space. Also pressing the space-bar by itself or the enter key sometimes works. David Griffith On 03/2015 14:57, Phil Halton wrote: They way I do it is as follows: download the latest flash player for mac by going to, www.get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ Follow the steps there to download the latest flash player .dmg file. Once downloaded, close all programs and then open the .dmg and run the installer app. That’s it. The systems preferences adobe update installer is inaccessible and is only good for notifying that a new flash player is available. If you have system prefs set to auto update flash, then when that update flash dialog pops up, simply cancel out of it and follow the manual steps I outlined above. On Mar 24, 2015, at 10:41 AM, Juliette Swiler wrote: Hello, I am stumped on this one. Can anybody tell me what is the best way to update flash player for the Mac using VoiceOver? Every time I try to run the installer, it just keeps focusing on the installer helper. If I click on this, it says this item was removed. Does this mean the installation is completed without VoiceOver giving me this message? I don’t think it is, because when I try to play content, nothing happens. If I press command q to quit, it says quit host, and brings up Safari with the message that Adobe Flash player can not be installed. What am I doing wrong? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Reading PDF files on the mac
Well I have just downloaded and installed version 11.0.10 from Adobe and nothing appears to have changed. None of the text area of the two PDF documents I loaded were available to Voiceover. I went through the Accessibility Setup wizard and specified that I was using a screen reader but this again provided no useful result. The only text area of thethat I was able to interact and read was the filename title of the PDF document. It is possible I have missed something but I went through all the preferences. David Griffith > On 27 Mar 2015, at 06:23, Jonathan Mosen wrote: > > I've not tried this yet, but the Adobe accessibility people were saying on > Twitter yesterday that the new Adobe Reader for Mac has VO support. > Jonathan Mosen > Mosen Consulting > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/> >> On 27/03/2015, at 3:05 pm, Phil Halton > <mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> another way is to copy all text in the document with command A, then open >> the preview menu, enter the services submenu and press enter on “new >> textedit window with selection”. >> It does exactly what it sounds like. >> First make sure you’ve interacted with the pdf text area and can read the >> text with the VO commands just to make sure you’re in the right place and >> can select all. >> >>> On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:14 PM, Georgina Joyce >> <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I don’t know if there’s a better way. But I highlight the text cmd+a then >>> copy cmd+c then open text edit and paste cmd+v into a new document. Not >>> nice but it works for me. >>> >>> Gena >>>> On 26 Mar 2015, at 23:37, Lorie McCloud >>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I can do it with preview if I interact with the image group. I’d like to >>>> know how to save a pdf as text. >>>> My Youtube Channel: “www.youtube.com/LorieMcCloud >>>> <http://www.youtube.com/LorieMcCloud> >>>> >>>>> On Mar 26, 2015, at 6:24 PM, Chris Moore >>>> <mailto:chris.w...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> What are some options for reading PDF files on the mac? >>>>> Chris >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >>>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.
Re: Reading PDF files on the mac
OK I checked for updates and it told me I had the latest version so the accessible VO version is hopefully yet to come. David Griffith On 27/03/2015 15:18, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote: 11.0.10 was released December 2014 so I suspect that is not the fixed version. CB On 3/27/15 4:24 AM, David Griffith wrote: Well I have just downloaded and installed version 11.0.10 from Adobe and nothing appears to have changed. None of the text area of the two PDF documents I loaded were available to Voiceover. I went through the Accessibility Setup wizard and specified that I was using a screen reader but this again provided no useful result. The only text area of thethat I was able to interact and read was the filename title of the PDF document. It is possible I have missed something but I went through all the preferences. David Griffith On 27 Mar 2015, at 06:23, Jonathan Mosen <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote: I've not tried this yet, but the Adobe accessibility people were saying on Twitter yesterday that the new Adobe Reader for Mac has VO support. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/> On 27/03/2015, at 3:05 pm, Phil Halton <mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> wrote: another way is to copy all text in the document with command A, then open the preview menu, enter the services submenu and press enter on “new textedit window with selection”. It does exactly what it sounds like. First make sure you’ve interacted with the pdf text area and can read the text with the VO commands just to make sure you’re in the right place and can select all. On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:14 PM, Georgina Joyce <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote: Hello, I don’t know if there’s a better way. But I highlight the text cmd+a then copy cmd+c then open text edit and paste cmd+v into a new document. Not nice but it works for me. Gena On 26 Mar 2015, at 23:37, Lorie McCloud <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote: I can do it with preview if I interact with the image group. I’d like to know how to save a pdf as text. My Youtube Channel: “www.youtube.com/LorieMcCloud <http://www.youtube.com/LorieMcCloud> On Mar 26, 2015, at 6:24 PM, Chris Moore <mailto:chris.w...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello, What are some options for reading PDF files on the mac? Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email
Re: Reading PDF files on the mac
Absolutely no confusion on my part. If you check the earlier thread you will see Jonathan said Adobe had announced that they released a VO Accessible version of Adobe Reader for the Mac on Twitter yesterday. David Griffith > On 27 Mar 2015, at 18:23, Tim Kilburn wrote: > > Hi, > > I’m guessing that you were either confused between the iOS version and the > Mac version, or someone believes that using Adobe Reader’s “Read Out Loud” > feature constitutes being accessible. Supposedly, the iOS version of Adobe > Reader has VO support, although I can’t confirm at this point. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Mar 27, 2015, at 09:45, David Griffith wrote: > > OK I checked for updates and it told me I had the latest version so the > accessible VO version is hopefully yet to come. > > David Griffith > > On 27/03/2015 15:18, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote: >> 11.0.10 was released December 2014 so I suspect that is not the fixed >> version. >> >> CB >> >> On 3/27/15 4:24 AM, David Griffith wrote: >>> Well I have just downloaded and installed version 11.0.10 from Adobe and >>> nothing appears to have changed. >>> >>> None of the text area of the two PDF documents I loaded were available to >>> Voiceover. >>> I went through the Accessibility Setup wizard and specified that I was >>> using a screen reader but this again provided no useful result. >>> The only text area of thethat I was able to interact and read was the >>> filename title of the PDF document. >>> >>> It is possible I have missed something but I went through all the >>> preferences. >>> David Griffith >>>> On 27 Mar 2015, at 06:23, Jonathan Mosen >>> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I've not tried this yet, but the Adobe accessibility people were saying on >>>> Twitter yesterday that the new Adobe Reader for Mac has VO support. >>>> Jonathan Mosen >>>> Mosen Consulting >>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/> >>>> >>>>> On 27/03/2015, at 3:05 pm, Phil Halton >>>> <mailto:philh...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> another way is to copy all text in the document with command A, then open >>>>> the preview menu, enter the services submenu and press enter on “new >>>>> textedit window with selection”. >>>>> It does exactly what it sounds like. >>>>> First make sure you’ve interacted with the pdf text area and can read the >>>>> text with the VO commands just to make sure you’re in the right place and >>>>> can select all. >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 26, 2015, at 8:14 PM, Georgina Joyce >>>>> <mailto:g...@gena-j.me.uk>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> I don’t know if there’s a better way. But I highlight the text cmd+a >>>>>> then copy cmd+c then open text edit and paste cmd+v into a new document. >>>>>> Not nice but it works for me. >>>>>> >>>>>> Gena >>>>>>> On 26 Mar 2015, at 23:37, Lorie McCloud >>>>>> <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can do it with preview if I interact with the image group. I’d like >>>>>>> to know how to save a pdf as text. >>>>>>> My Youtube Channel: “www.youtube.com/LorieMcCloud >>>>>>> <http://www.youtube.com/LorieMcCloud> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2015, at 6:24 PM, Chris Moore >>>>>>> <mailto:chris.w...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>> What are some options for reading PDF files on the mac? >>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>>&
Re: How do you update Adobi on the Mac using VO?
Although I have not had this exact problem generally on Adobe Flash installs I encounter 2 problems. 1. You tend to have to use shift vo space to activate the buttons. so it might be worth doing this as well to see if it prevents you being dumped out of the install app.. 2. The install tends to throw up "helper" htm windows with messages like close Safari to complete the install and other things. These can remove focus from the install app so you need to use Window Chooser to interact with these windows and respond to them. David Griffith rto On 27/03/2015 19:22, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Hi Tim, I re-downloaded the file just now which had a different file name and got me a lot further with installing flash player. I got as far as agreeing to the license terms. When I press vo space on the "I agree" check box to check it, I'm thrown out of the installer and back into finder. It's as if I pressed the quit button which I didn't. Do you get this problem, and how do you get around it? Thanks so much. Lisette On 27/03/2015, at 10:12 am, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, That Installer Helper HTML area should not be empty. IF you Interact with it, VO usually can read info about what’s going on. It’s the only area that is usually of any use to you. If there are any apps open like Safari, Chrome, System Preferences etc, that use Flash in some manner, they will need to be quit, otherwise, Flash won’t finish installing. As mentioned, I often get a message about FlashBridge Cross Platform needing to be quit and the only way I’ve found to do that is through the Activity Monitor since it is not really an app. A few questions: • Do you have an item called Flash Player in your System Preferences? • If so, what version does it say you have installed? Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 26, 2015, at 14:40, Lisette Wesseling wrote: Hi Tim and anybody else who can help, I am having immense difficulty installing flash. Is the installer really buggy or something? I'm at the point where I've downloaded the disk image. I open the installer app. I'm warned about this and I continue. I'm asked for my computer username and password which I type in and press enter. I get a window called adobe flash player installer. Next to this is an installer helper html area which is empty. That's all. There's a close button and nothing else, and nothing seems to be installing. I've tried going through system prefs again to re download it. I hit the download link and nothing downloads. Any ideas? Lisette a On 27/03/2015, at 7:33 am, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, There was a discussion about this just a few days ago on this list. A few varied but similar responses. The basic gist, if it’s Flash, • Go to System Preferences. • Press on the Flash button. • Select the Advanced pane. • Interact with the Scroll area. • Navigate to the Check Now button and press it. • If there’s an update available, you will be told in a dialog at this point. Choose Update. This will take you into your browser and directly to the latest Flash installer. I usually just press tab until the Install Now link is read, then I press return. It will then download to your Downloads folder and you can open the .dmg file and run the installer package from there. If Safari or another Flash needing app is running, the installer will pause asking you to quit them all. Sometimes there’s a “Force Close All”, sometimes not. If the “Flash Bridge Cross Platform” service is running, you’ll need to quit that process from the Activity Monitor app which is located in the Utilities folder. Other than that, the only thing you may need to do is use VO-shift-space to activate a button while in the Flash Installer as the regular VO-space doesn’t work for these buttons. HTH. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 26, 2015, at 12:11, Eleanor Roberts wrote: I think it's the Adobi Flash Player, but I'll find out more accurately for you. Sorry I can't be more help yet, but quite frankly I don't really know what he's on about as I don't use it. Eleanor Sent from my iPad On 26 Mar 2015, at 17:00, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, Which Adobe product is he using? Best. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Mar 26, 2015, at 09:37, Eleanor Roberts wrote: Hi all I'm asking this on behalf of a friend. He has a Mac, and uses Adobi an awful lot to listen to media files (radio etc I believe). Anyway, he wants to update Adobi but doesn't know how to do it on his Mac using VO, as this is the first time he's had to update since getting the computer. So was wondering if someone who does know could send me some instructions whichh I could pass on to him on how to do this? Many thanks. Eleanor Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "M
Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8
I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro <mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, "george b" mailto:gbma...@gmail.com>> wrote: What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am interested in this please. thanks *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Solitro *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54 *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in case, that U2 debacle. Last weekend I was camping with some mates and I was going through some tracks after lunch, and those damn U2 tracks kept popping up like annoying ads. Really don’t want some band pushing their crap on my life experience when I shelled out 1200 dollars for a phone that is supposed to do things for me. Not the other way around. Sure, U2 has some great songs. But their current 50’s midlife crisis moans aren’t my style, nor inspire me. I can listen to that when I go into an apple store and wait for a genius to tell me my future. Seriously folks, I’m not just going off on a rant, and for those of you who want to reply by being defensive for apple, just remember a few basic things: 1-You are customer. Customer is king, you are not serving apple. Apple makes money off you, take 30 percent of the cut on your music production or app developement with their platform. They serve you. Not the other way around. 2-Apple is not god almighty. Apple has great people that collectively create experiences. At the helm, a few individuals decide on the direction of that experience. Personally, I don’t trust Tim Cook that much in giving us a good experience. That Johnny Ive sounds like a pompous marketing guy with design skills I cannot trust as head of human inte
Moderators
Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Inappropriate Responsses on List
Hello thought I should bring your attention to the inappropriate behaviour of an a list member today. Many of us feel he needs to be removed from the list. Some examples are below. On 28/03/2015 18:21, mário navarro wrote: yes, i know. put a microphone in the ass, and connect to your mouth, and call the moderators. fuck you, piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 17:53, David Griffith escreveu: Does anybody know how to contact moderators on this list? David Griffith On 28/03/2015 18:34, mário navarro wrote: fuck you bitch. your pussy stinks. Em 28/03/2015 18:16, Donna Goodin escreveu: I'm not easily offended, and have a fairly high tolerance for four-letter words, but this is over the top. In addition to being completely inappropriate, it's also very disrespectful. thank you, Donna Begin forwarded message: *Date: *March 28, 2015 at 8:53:14 AM CDT *From: *mário navarro <mailto:mario@gmail.com>> *To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> *Subject: **Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8* *Reply-To: *macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> fuck you, piece of shit ... who you think you are ... You must be very important sucker! if you want to go out go and take your ignorance with you ... I do not spoke to you sucker ... your head is full of shit ... you smell bad, go wash you piece of shit ... Em 28/03/2015 13:32, David Griffith escreveu: I have had nothing to do with this thread but really this sounds like a small spoilt child ranting in a playground. We normally have grown up discussions on this list without hurling personal insults at each other. Could the moderator please confirm this is inappropriate on this list. If this is the tone of emails I will have to read then I will be off. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 13:01, mário navarro wrote: man, why you are so stupid? you work for apple? apple pay all your debts at the end of the month? apple solves all your problems of accessibility in the voice over? yes, because only you have no accessibility problems in your iPhone ... shut your mouth and respect the people in the group ... Em 28/03/2015 02:04, Christopher-Mark Gilland escreveu: All of the nightmarish things that happened with I O S 8 in the beginning have pretty much been fixed. I run I O S 8.2 on all of my devices, including my IPad Air first generation, and all is very very smoothe. I really don't have any issues any longer. OK, in Safari, on huge web pages, sometimes the item chooser will crap the bed, but even that is becoming more and more rare, and the main web site where I see this happen, is a major exception, as that page literally speaking has over 12 thousand links on it. Sorry, I'm not at liberty to go into what this site is, you're just gonna have to trust me with this. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message - *From:* Jon Solitro <mailto:jon.soli...@gmail.com> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 8:38 PM *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 The app is called WritePad. I can't attest to the functionality as I haven't been able to download it yet. I know that many apps need ios 8. I'm justwondering if it is worth it ot upgrade. In the past when I've upgraded, Voice Over tends to run slower. How is it now? Should I upgrade? Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:17 PM, "george b" mailto:gbma...@gmail.com>> wrote: What is the name of the hand writing reconigation app I am interested in this please. thanks *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Jon Solitro *Sent:* Friday, March 27, 2015 10:54 *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> *Subject:* Re: starting to get irritated by IOS 8 I still haven't upgraded to iOs 8 on my iPad 2. I'm still running iOs 7. I found a handwriting recognition app that needs iOs 8 to install. Should I update, or can I expect slower operation? On Wednesday, October 15, 2014 at 3:38:48 PM UTC-4, Yuma Decaux wrote: Hi all, I don’t know about yall, but I have an iphone 6 with IOS 8 and I have to say that the experience is less than stellar. Bugs everywhere, slower than on my iphone 5s, siri cut off midway then voice over not working, hang like slowness when getting out of an app. I have to say that I have started looking for alternatives as I feel like apple is trying to nudge things too much into the “let big brother figure out for you what you should like and do”. Point in c
Re: Inappropriate Responsses on List
My apologies. that was not intended. I hope nobody was further offended by the copying of the traffic. However both the email addresses suggested for contacting the moderator have not worked and have each returned delivery failure messages. I have attempted to make contact via the Google Groups Web page but I am not sure that this has worked either. I will wait to see if anybody is actually monitoring the list. David Griffith On 28/03/2015 23:32, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: whoops? This actually went to the whole list. Try the address I suggested. macvisionaries+ow...@googlegroups.com I'm still looking for chris's address. No luck yet though. I'm sorry. Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net - Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" To: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Siri not available
This happened to me a couple of weeks ago and I suspect that, as the problem eventually disappeared, it was actually a problem at the Apple end. I have no evidence for this except that it all occurred at about the same time as other people started reporting problems with iTunes and the App Store. I think these problems were also eventually resolved at the Apple End. David Griffith On 29/03/2015 20:00, Phil Halton wrote: I am getting “siri not available , connect to the internet” messages all of a sudden when I try to use Siri. Siri works fine when I’m on my wifi network, and it used to work fine when away from internet connections as well. But now, if I turn off wifi or move out of network range, I get this message. I’ve done a power cycle of the iPhone5 and again no Siri. I then did a network reset with no joy. I’ve looked in the Siri settings and the cellular settings and can find no reason for this. I’m hoping to avoid doing a total device reset. Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Moderation of the list
Many thanks. Clearly this is an important list with many resourceful people and it appears that there are some good folk who would be prepared to help out with moderation if necessary to help maintain it. Is there a point that they should contact/volunteer? David Griffith On 30/03/2015 05:20, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote: Wanted to let you all know that the account in question is now blocked from the list. I should point out a couple things: 1. I'm not the moderator, I just help out with registering new users, as many of you already know. By nature of that role I can also help folks out by fiddling with their accounts. While I may be overstepping my role, it was obvious to me that this cup of sewage was spoiling our barrel of wine. 2. I went through the history of postings from when the account was added in 2011 and the screeds of late do not seem to be of the same person. I suspect the account somehow got hacked and the new owner decided to have some 'fun' by trolling our list. The original poster was usually on-topic up through December of last year and then went silent. Suddenly he pops up on the list with 27 posts in two days of a most unpleasant nature. 3. I'm not familiar enough with how this system works to know if we can delete the messages. I'll poke around and find out. That won't help your inbox but it might be some solace to the real owner of the account whose name is now associated with the recent unpleasantness. Sorry for not pulling the plug sooner. I'm not on my email as often on weekends. CB -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: I Player for the Mac.
I use Get i Player Automaker. with this you download the files and can play them offline. Actually I convert the video files created to mp3. David Griffith play them off line. On 30/03/2015 19:09, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Has anyone used Iplayer for the Mac? I hope someone can tell me if it's accessible as the one for windows was not when I downloaded the I player for downloading things from the BBC. I was at work and so only had my work machine to test it. I will however download the Mac one to see what it's like. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: I Player for the Mac.
I searched on Google. I can look for you if you cnnot find it. David Griffith On 30/03/2015 22:15, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: So where do you get this from? Kawal. On 30 Mar 2015, at 21:56, David Griffith wrote: I use Get i Player Automaker. with this you download the files and can play them offline. Actually I convert the video files created to mp3. David Griffith play them off line. On 30/03/2015 19:09, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Has anyone used Iplayer for the Mac? I hope someone can tell me if it's accessible as the one for windows was not when I downloaded the I player for downloading things from the BBC. I was at work and so only had my work machine to test it. I will however download the Mac one to see what it's like. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Get a Scanner to work in a different O.S. Was: Re: Abby Finer Reading. Was: Re: Reading PDF files on the mac
The workaround for this is to try using VueScan which can interface between your scanner and Abbey Finereader. Unfortunately even this solution did not work for me as my scanner was not even supported on VueScan. However look at http://www.hamrick.com/ There is a trial version I think which would definitely tell you whether VueScan will be able to see your scanner on the Mac. David Griffith On 02/04/2015 08:42, 'Gabriele Battaglia' via MacVisionaries wrote: Ciao Gena and thanks for your answer. Yes, officially they don't list Mac OS among the supported O.S. It's the first time I face such problem and onestly I don't know how to solve it. Should I search for drivers by using my scanner's name and MAC OSX? How do you fix this issue or, what do you suggest me to try? Many many thanks. Gabriel. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Are there no alternate iOS browsers?
There are good reviews of the Atomic Web Browser on Apple Vis which has manymore features than Safari including a download manager. I have installed the app but have not investigated it yet. David Griffith atomic > On 9 Apr 2015, at 21:13, Phil Halton wrote: > > I am still wondering if there is another iOS browser that I can use other > than Safari. Are there really no alternatives to Safari on iOS? > Thanks for any help. > > > Sent from my IPhone > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: os 10.10.3
I had the opposite experienced. I had to try 4 times to download and install iO/s 8.3 on my iPad whilst the Mac update has downloaded and installed fine. I guess it is the luck of the draw as to when > you contact the Apple server and how busy it is. On 9 Apr 2015, at 19:33, > Faisal ali wrote: > > Hi everyone, > Yesterday I attempted to download and install os 10.10,3. However, the > download was extremely slow and the actual download itself was over 2 gigs. > Has anyone else noticed this? I had to interrupt it as I needed to get to > sleep as I had work in the morning and will try it again when I get home. > Interestingly, had no issues installing IOS 8.3. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: VoiceOver and Word processors
Nisus is a more expensive option than iText but Nisus Writer Pro is a fully featured Voiceover Accessible Word Processor for the Mac which has an interface which is more familiar to people used to Windows Word processors like Word than Pages. . I must admit I have not done extensive word processing on it and mainly use it as my default PDF viewer which is a nice bonus but many people use it as their preferred Mac app for creating and editing text. The main access adjustment is that you will get best Voiceover feedback when in draft view. I paid about £40 for it but it appears from time to time at reduced rates from sites such as Mac-Update and has also been bundled with other apps in some of their bargain offers. David Griffith On 11/04/2015 12:03, Sadam Ahmed wrote: Hi, Have tried text edit. But found it a little too simple for my needs. Kind regards, Sadam Mohammed Ahmed Assistive technology blog: SadamAhmed.com LinkedIn profile: linkedin.com/profile/view?id=203Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: VoiceOver and Word processors
You inspired me to return to Nisus today as I needed to write a blog which I had recently been doing in TextEdit. Returning to Nisus was a comfortable experience with simple things remaining simple. I like the way that when the app opens you are just in a blank document and can start typing immediately without having to interact with templates etc or dismiss cloud options. I know there are work around for these things in other apps but it is nice not to have to do it. There are also familiar features like the save filename defaulting to the first line of text, which of course is normally the title of the documents. This will be a familiar experience to people used to using Word. There are of course a host more features available through the comprehensive menu system. David Griffith Ahmed wrote: Hi David, I’ve heard good things about Nisus writer pro. In the Australian Mac app Store I believe it’s AU$99. Will give it a try. Do have a copy of Microsoft Office 2013 which I fire up from time to time but trying to use Mac OS X for my educational needs. Kind regards, Sadam Mohammed Ahmed Assistive technology Blog: SadamAhmed.com <http://sadamahmed.com/> LinkedIn: linkedin.com/profile/view?id=20 <http://linkedin.com/profile/view?id=20> — On 11 Apr 2015, at 9:53 pm, David Griffith wrote: Nisus is a more expensive option than iText but Nisus Writer Pro is a fully featured Voiceover Accessible Word Processor for the Mac which has an interface which is more familiar to people used to Windows Word processors like Word than Pages. . I must admit I have not done extensive word processing on it and mainly use it as my default PDF viewer which is a nice bonus but many people use it as their preferred Mac app for creating and editing text. The main access adjustment is that you will get best Voiceover feedback when in draft view. I paid about £40 for it but it appears from time to time at reduced rates from sites such as Mac-Update and has also been bundled with other apps in some of their bargain offers. David Griffith On 11/04/2015 12:03, Sadam Ahmed wrote: Hi, Have tried text edit. But found it a little too simple for my needs. Kind regards, Sadam Mohammed Ahmed Assistive technology blog: SadamAhmed.com LinkedIn profile: linkedin.com/profile/view?id=203Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: VoiceOver and Word processors
When I tried it a few months back I found Libre Office unusable for any practical usage. I have removed it from my Mac. The Voiceover Support is clunky and verbose in the extreme, even at lowest VO verbosity settings. It is impossible to read beyond a paragraph at a time and that requires a lot of perseverance. In the admittedly limited time that I tested it before I lost patience with it and removed it I found in terms of word processing at least there was nothing that Libre Office could do that TextEdit and certainly even Pages could not do with infinitely more comfort and ease of use for voiceover users. David Griffith On 11/04/2015 13:23, Joanne Chua wrote: What about Libre Office as an option? I heard that Libre office suppose to be fairly accessible with voiceover. Personally i use pages, but i'll still use the pc laptop for any complex formating. Joanne Chua Send from my iPad On 11 Apr 2015, at 21:23, David Griffith wrote: Nisus is a more expensive option than iText but Nisus Writer Pro is a fully featured Voiceover Accessible Word Processor for the Mac which has an interface which is more familiar to people used to Windows Word processors like Word than Pages. . I must admit I have not done extensive word processing on it and mainly use it as my default PDF viewer which is a nice bonus but many people use it as their preferred Mac app for creating and editing text. The main access adjustment is that you will get best Voiceover feedback when in draft view. I paid about £40 for it but it appears from time to time at reduced rates from sites such as Mac-Update and has also been bundled with other apps in some of their bargain offers. David Griffith On 11/04/2015 12:03, Sadam Ahmed wrote: Hi, Have tried text edit. But found it a little too simple for my needs. Kind regards, Sadam Mohammed Ahmed Assistive technology blog: SadamAhmed.com LinkedIn profile: linkedin.com/profile/view?id=203Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Constantly being asked to sighn into iCloud.
Since upgrading to 8.3 on my iPhone 5 I am now constantly being nagged to sign into iCloud. On previous versions of i OS I only had to do this the once on setup and there was no further requests. Now virtually every time I unlock the phone there is a nag telling me to enter the password for iCloud. This I do and the phone is perfectly happy until I have to unlock it again when again I am prompted for my iCloud password. I have now just started pressing the cancel button but presumably the phone is no longer synching. Researching this on Google it appears that this has been a problem for many people in previous version of i OS 8 and has forced some to try and revert to i OS 7. Some have suggested that I abandon my normal Apple ID and instead try to sign in with my iCloud email address but I don't want to do this unless it is a confirmed workaround in case I make things even worse. Has anybody managed to get around this problem? David Griffith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Thinking of buying Pages
Yes but if you update to Yosemite you will have free access to Pages. David Griffith On 15/04/2015 05:03, Agent086b wrote: Hi, I think that came in just after I got my iMac. Max. On 15 Apr 2015, at 2:01 pm, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries wrote: I thought Pages was now free if you're on OSX 10.10. I actually paid for my copy so I can't be 100% sure. Check the Mac app store and make sure you can't just download them. CB On 4/14/15 11:54 PM, Agent086b wrote: Hello all, I have been using Textedit since I got my Mac. I have a document that is 13 pages long. Firstly I have great difficulty getting my cursor to the last page. When I inserted a page break to create page 14 I was not able to get VO to read what I am typing. If I purchase Pages is there a limit to the number of pages I can work with? I am not complaining about Textedit, after all it cost nothing extra when I got the iMac. Thanks for any advice. Max. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Automatically enabling and disabling Quick Nav when apps gain focus
Well I achieved precisely this under Mavericks with no problems but to be honest I disabled all activities when I upgraded to Yosemite as there was a suggestion that Activities were setting up a Voiceover Performance lag and I concluded it was no real hardship to press the left and right cursor keys to turn Quick Nav on and off. It may be then a possibility that a problem was introduced in Yosemite but I will check later when I am on my Mac. But yest in theory there should be no difficulties with setting up activities to have the status of quick nav disabled or enabled when Mail or Safari are loaded. You may have to be more specific about what steps you took in setting up the activity for us to comment on whether you are doing anything wrong. David Griffith On 19/04/2015 23:47, Edward Green wrote: Hi, I want to set up my Mac so that the state of the quick nav toggle is changed automatically when apps gain focus. I want it to be on in Safari, and off in Mail. I tried to create an activity associated with the Mail program, in which I disabled quick nav. However, when Mail gains focus, the status of quick nav remains unchanged. I tried to create a second one that enabled quick nav and associated it with Safari thinking both might need to exist, but the state of the quick nav toggle doesn’t change when I command tab between the two apps. Is what I want to do possible, and should I be using activities to try and accomplish it? If so, does anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong? Thanks, Ed -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: More Nisus writer questions.
I am presuming that you know that you get the word count by making the Statistics window visible. You can make this visible by going to the window menu and under palettes pressing enter on statistics. Then you can consult the word count at any time by bringing up the window chooser and switching to the statistics window. When you bring up window chooser you will hear the name of your document in one window and the statistics window will be labelled by the number of characters in your document. However switching to this window will enable you to also check words paragraphs etc as well. Personally` I use Numpad commander so I can bring up the window chooser simply by pressing the slash key on the numpad so access to the statistics window is pretty slick and easy but you could also assign a keystroke to window chooser in keypad commander. Perhaps option W which would be useful in more applications than Nisus. David Griffith > On 1 May 2015, at 02:39, sadam ahmed wrote: > > Hi all, > > I’ve recently invested in the purchase of Nisus writer pro for my Mac. > > My question is how does one get the word count using a direct VO keystroke? > > On the Windows side one presses F6 arrows down twice and the word count is > spoken. > > Another list member did suggest terminal. ) But I’d rather invoke a VO > keystroke as productivity is very important when I’m writing my assignments). > > As usual thanks in advance for any help provided. > > Kind regards, > > Sadam Ahmed > > Web: > > Http://SadamAhmed.com <http://sadamahmed.com/> > > Social media: > > FaceBook: > > Http://SadamAhmed.12 <http://sadamahmed.12/> > > Twitter: > > @SadamAhmed121 > > Sent using OS X mail > > — > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries > <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Renaming cd in itunes.
I am not sure if you are using Mac or Windows itunes but in either case itunes reads the appropriate CD information from the tag information included in the mp3 files or whatever media format you are using. I would suggest that in either case you need to delete the relevant files from the itunes database and re-import the files with amended information. Personally I find Tag editing awkward on both Windows and Mac itunes and would recommend using a proper Tag Editor in either case. This is especially the case as iTunes mysteriously does not actually edit tags but merely amends its database records. Assuming you are using Windows then first of all 1. Locate the media in your itunes media folder on your PC. I forget where this is in Windows by default as I have changed the location but will be something like ITunes with a iTunes Media folder inside that and your CD folder inside that. 2. For safety copy this folder and rename it. 3. Make sure you have the free Mp3Tag installed on your PC. 4. With the folder highlighted press the application key and then 3 to launch Mp3Tag. 5. In Mp3Tag press control A to select all tracks. 6. Tab to the Album Tag Field and Rename the CD to what you want. You can also amend any other tags here whilst tabbing through. leave the track titles and number alone as you have selected more than one track so changes made here will apply to all tracks. 7. Control S to save. Press enter to clear the confirmation message and close Mp3Tag. 8. Now open iTunes and delete the old version of the CD and and go to the file menu to select Open folder. 9. Finally import your amended CD files with proper information. You can do the same thing on the Mac side but will have to use an alternative Tag editor. I use IDE Tag Editor which is very different from mp3Tag and is unfortunately not free. Mp3Tag has more features so there are advantages in doing this under Windows as opposed to the Mac. David Griffith On 7/06/2015 10:09, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hello! I have a cd here which is included in a radio-drama. Though the itunes database is naming it something else. Do i have to rip the cd first and then rename it or can i rename it bu selecting the title in question and then go to rename? Thanks in advance. /A -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Renaming cd in itunes.
Apologies for not specifying Mac instructions more. I did not spot this was a MacVisionaries question and confused this query with a more general Computing list. David Griffith On 17/06/2015 15:59, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi, iTunes on the Mac will do this just fine. similarly, select the tracks related to the album, do a cmd-i to Get Info on the selected items, Modify the album title as needed and leave the rest of the fields alone. VO-space on the OK button or press return and you're done. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 17, 2015, at 04:37, David Griffith wrote: I am not sure if you are using Mac or Windows itunes but in either case itunes reads the appropriate CD information from the tag information included in the mp3 files or whatever media format you are using. I would suggest that in either case you need to delete the relevant files from the itunes database and re-import the files with amended information. Personally I find Tag editing awkward on both Windows and Mac itunes and would recommend using a proper Tag Editor in either case. This is especially the case as iTunes mysteriously does not actually edit tags but merely amends its database records. Assuming you are using Windows then first of all 1. Locate the media in your itunes media folder on your PC. I forget where this is in Windows by default as I have changed the location but will be something like ITunes with a iTunes Media folder inside that and your CD folder inside that. 2. For safety copy this folder and rename it. 3. Make sure you have the free Mp3Tag installed on your PC. 4. With the folder highlighted press the application key and then 3 to launch Mp3Tag. 5. In Mp3Tag press control A to select all tracks. 6. Tab to the Album Tag Field and Rename the CD to what you want. You can also amend any other tags here whilst tabbing through. leave the track titles and number alone as you have selected more than one track so changes made here will apply to all tracks. 7. Control S to save. Press enter to clear the confirmation message and close Mp3Tag. 8. Now open iTunes and delete the old version of the CD and and go to the file menu to select Open folder. 9. Finally import your amended CD files with proper information. You can do the same thing on the Mac side but will have to use an alternative Tag editor. I use IDE Tag Editor which is very different from mp3Tag and is unfortunately not free. Mp3Tag has more features so there are advantages in doing this under Windows as opposed to the Mac. David Griffith On 7/06/2015 10:09, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hello! I have a cd here which is included in a radio-drama. Though the itunes database is naming it something else. Do i have to rip the cd first and then rename it or can i rename it bu selecting the title in question and then go to rename? Thanks in advance. /A -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Getting Office on the Mac
Hello I have been taking a break from technology and apologise if this has been raised before but now need to utilise my Office 365 subscription on my Mac. However when I visit the Office 365 Home page it appears to be completely inaccessible with Safari and Voiceover. Is this what others have found and is there a workaround for this? David Griffith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Problem with Logging On after Update.
I have not been on my Mac much recently as I have got pretty disillusioned by various annoyances and bugs which seem to abound on the Mac nowadays. I installed the latest El Kapitan update today to see if that resolved any matters only to be confronted by a whole new range of access barriers. I had my Mac set to not require a logon but all of a sudden I am required to provide one. I can turn Voiceover on and enter my password but the only buttons then available to me in the dialogue are sleep, restart and shut down. I can see nothing about entering an Apple ID. So all of a sudden I am locked completely out of a very expensive piece of kit. Has anybody else encountered this and is there is any solution for a Voiceover user? David Griffith -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Problem with Logging On after Update.
dthanks - I was not clear enough in my explanation of the issue. This problem suddenly appeared after a normal maintenance update today, not a install of any kind. In addition my User account is identical to my apple ID so there should not be any issue there. However on this new logon screen, which has appeared in defiance of my system settings not to require a log on, and which has never appeared before, there is nowhere that voiceover sees to enter a User ID. The only visible to Voiceover edit box is just the password field. After entering this you are then locked into just sleep, shutdown and restart as your options. I strongly recommend that that people do not install this update if this is the consequence. I remember a Mac friend ringing me to complain about this issue which occured for him also some time ago so it may be a rogue bug in the OS, it is certainly annoying. David Griffith On 17/04/2016 16:32, Basioli George wrote: david this is your user account login and if you did a clean install you need to create a user login that is not the apple login On Apr 17, 2016, at 7:52 AM, David Griffith wrote: I have not been on my Mac much recently as I have got pretty disillusioned by various annoyances and bugs which seem to abound on the Mac nowadays. I installed the latest El Kapitan update today to see if that resolved any matters only to be confronted by a whole new range of access barriers. I had my Mac set to not require a logon but all of a sudden I am required to provide one. I can turn Voiceover on and enter my password but the only buttons then available to me in the dialogue are sleep, restart and shut down. I can see nothing about entering an Apple ID. So all of a sudden I am locked completely out of a very expensive piece of kit. Has anybody else encountered this and is there is any solution for a Voiceover user? David Griffith -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Problem with Logging On after Update.
I think I may have cleared the problem though Apple certainly are slipping. I always regarded areas labelled as groups as areas to interact with and investigate. However the group in this dialogue box is not a group at all to begin with and you will find if you interact with it, it says empty group. However despite it being to begin with, not a group at all it is however an unannounced button. Only after pressing this group as a button will other group items appear. Basically this log in screen appeared half way through a maintenance update and therefore seems to take no account of your log in preferences. I got it to work by 1. Turn on Voiceover. 2Although you appear to only have sleep restart and shutdown as your available buttons the area labelled with your user name and labelled as a Group is also actually a button. 3. Press VO space on where it says what ever your user name Group is. In my case it says David Griffith Group. 4. After pressing Vo Space on this group a password field will then appear. To see this with Voiceover you need to interact with the group 5. interact again with the edit field to enter your normal password. 6. I pressed Enter after this and after a few seconds Voiceover then announces that the update is installing and eventually you will return to familiar territory with your Mac. I hope this helps somebody else experiencing this problem. David Griffith David Griffith sOn 17/04/2016 16:32, Basioli George wrote: david this is your user account login and if you did a clean install you need to create a user login that is not the apple login On Apr 17, 2016, at 7:52 AM, David Griffith wrote: I have not been on my Mac much recently as I have got pretty disillusioned by various annoyances and bugs which seem to abound on the Mac nowadays. I installed the latest El Kapitan update today to see if that resolved any matters only to be confronted by a whole new range of access barriers. I had my Mac set to not require a logon but all of a sudden I am required to provide one. I can turn Voiceover on and enter my password but the only buttons then available to me in the dialogue are sleep, restart and shut down. I can see nothing about entering an Apple ID. So all of a sudden I am locked completely out of a very expensive piece of kit. Has anybody else encountered this and is there is any solution for a Voiceover user? David Griffith -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Problem with Logging On after Update.
I hope that my earlier email came through explaining in detail what I found and the eventual solution. In brief you have to treat the user group element on the logon as a unannounced button on the logon screen. The problem was caused by a login required after a maintnance update which required a restart. I have never before encountered this screen before when I have agreed any OS maintenance update. Normally after an update the Mac restarts into the updated OS without any intervention on my part. . On this latest update though the update stalls and will not complete unless you start Voiceover manually and log in using the instructions I posted earlier. Now the update has completed hopefully this problem will disappear. David Griffith On 17/04/2016 21:32, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: I have the latest update on my I Mac and Mac Mini and I have never seen the screen that David has referred to. However, if a login screen did come up, I have it set like my work windows machine, where I put in my name and password. Other than that, if I don’t do that, then it would automatically log me in. I’m sure you can set your login in preferences if you go to usernames and accounts can’t you? As stated before, I haven’t encountered many bugs as I did a clean install before I put Elcap on both machines. Kawal. On 17 Apr 2016, at 17:35, Jonathan Cohn <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote: David, Just to be clear, the only options available are Password, Shutdown, reboot? What does VO-F1 say for this screen. What happens if you type escape. Best wishes, Jonathan On 17 Apr 2016, at 11:47, David Griffith <mailto:daj.griff...@gmail.com>> wrote: dthanks - I was not clear enough in my explanation of the issue. This problem suddenly appeared after a normal maintenance update today, not a install of any kind. In addition my User account is identical to my apple ID so there should not be any issue there. However on this new logon screen, which has appeared in defiance of my system settings not to require a log on, and which has never appeared before, there is nowhere that voiceover sees to enter a User ID. The only visible to Voiceover edit box is just the password field. After entering this you are then locked into just sleep, shutdown and restart as your options. I strongly recommend that that people do not install this update if this is the consequence. I remember a Mac friend ringing me to complain about this issue which occured for him also some time ago so it may be a rogue bug in the OS, it is certainly annoying. David Griffith On 17/04/2016 16:32, Basioli George wrote: david this is your user account login and if you did a clean install you need to create a user login that is not the apple login On Apr 17, 2016, at 7:52 AM, David Griffith mailto:daj.griff...@gmail.com>> wrote: I have not been on my Mac much recently as I have got pretty disillusioned by various annoyances and bugs which seem to abound on the Mac nowadays. I installed the latest El Kapitan update today to see if that resolved any matters only to be confronted by a whole new range of access barriers. I had my Mac set to not require a logon but all of a sudden I am required to provide one. I can turn Voiceover on and enter my password but the only buttons then available to me in the dialogue are sleep, restart and shut down. I can see nothing about entering an Apple ID. So all of a sudden I am locked completely out of a very expensive piece of kit. Has anybody else encountered this and is there is any solution for a Voiceover user? David Griffith -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list its
Re: Edditting a document in textedit on my Mac
The reason for this is that unlike in Windows the Mac has a feature where the documents you amend or alter have the changes automatically saved, even if you have not manually asked for the document to be saveds . The Mac therefore warns you if you want to amend a version and offers the chance to work on a duplicate. If you actually are convinced you want to change the saved version of the document you can proceed through the dialogue to do this but the Mac encourages you to work on a duplicate. This is to protect you from making changes you later regret. There is a way of using a feature called file versions to go back to a previous version of the file but it is probably easier to just work with a duplicate. Don't be confused by the duplicate message - this is the way the Mac uses the same feature described in Windows as Save As. Once you duplicate the file you can rename it to a file name of your choice. David Griffith On 09/05/2016 05:18, Helga Schreiber wrote: Hi all! How are you all? I have a question, I want to write in adocument on my mac using textedit guys. I started writing this documenton my windows computer, but everytime I want to eddit on my mac, an alert dialog appear saying Are you sure you to change ths document,and ten it only give me option to cancel or duplicate a copy guys. I really don't know what to do. Should I duplicate a copy? This is my first time opening a document in a mac in order to write on it. I will really appreciate any help you can offer me guys. I look forward in hearing from you soon. Thansk and God bless! Helga Schreiber Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students. Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. Phone: (561) 706-5950 Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com <mailto:helga.schreibe...@gmail.com> Skype: helga.schreiber26 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.as <http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx>px INT Website: http://int4life.com/ "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 9.3.1 -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Is iBooks Unusable in El Capitan
My upgrade from Yosemite has so far been reasonable but i Books has now become impractical to use. Every time I try to look at the text of even a small document I am getting locked in a busy message. This occasionally happened in Yosemite but you could eventually get to read some content. I have not sucdeededin getting into the reading scroll area even though I have restarted etc. Is this an experience others have had or is it only me. I have not done the clean install again but will not bother if this is a problem even after a clean install. David Griffith -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Does anyone know of a free rss reader for the Mac/
I use Vienna. David Griffith > On 31 Jan 2016, at 17:57, 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Does any one know of a free and accessible rss reader for the Mac? > > ```Sent from my iPad > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Does anyone know of a free rss reader for the Mac/
Sorry but where did you try to look? David Griffith > On 31 Jan 2016, at 21:15, 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > i tried to look for it bt it is not there > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Does anyone know of a free rss reader for the Mac/
I do not think it its available in the App Store. Many of the most useful Mac programs are not. I Googled Vienna RSS Reader and the first result you get is a link to the developers page and download links. David Griffith > On 31 Jan 2016, at 22:47, 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > I looked in the app store bt this was not there. i speed it correctly > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Does anyone know of a free rss reader for the Mac/
I think Vienna works very well with Voiceover, at least I have found nothing that I can't do. Simply import your RSS feeds via the menu bar. Then you have to navigate by tabbing to a folder column which is where your RSS Feeds are listed. Tab into this and you should be able to navigate your feeds using cursor keys or first letter navigation. Once on a feed pressing tab again will jump you into the article table. I have changed the sort under the view menu so that it is descending. This means that when I tab into the article column I always land on the most recent article. Pressing shift tab will return you to the folder column where you can select another RSS Feed if you want. There is an html area beyond the article column but this is only part of the web page normally, the what I do if I want to read an article in full is press command B in the article column and Safari will open and load the page. I prefer this as I can use Reader on Safari. David Griffith On 01/02/2016 00:06, 'Adrian Leong' via MacVisionaries wrote: thanks i will look for it how is it with voice over -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
iBooks still unusable after clean install
Ever since I upgraded to El Kapitan I have found iBooks on OS unusable with constant busy messages ehen whenever I try to interact with the text scroll area. . I took advice and did a complete clean install of El Kapitan. Unfortunately this has not produced any improvement and I have exactly the same issues as when I had simply upgraded over Yosemite. I have a 2011 iMac with 16 GB of Ram and a solid state primary hard disc. No other part of the OS, as far as I can tell so far is producing any lag. I am using the Alex voice. It seems puzzingly that some of us are reporting no issues whilst others appear to have exactly the same problem I have. Could I first of all confirm if anybody else, like me, has this problem even after a complete clean install? David Griffith -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iBooks still unusable after clean install
Yes this is what is happening with me but based on this feedback I may have to do an ultra clean install. The problem may be that after the install I migrated my apps and settings across to the new install from Time machine as it is a real pain retrieving and entering all the non app store app licenses. Also my printer driver setup requires me to pay for sighted help as well. As everything else is working as expected so far I might have to consider whether iBooks is really worth having to dlete all my settings accounts and so on to set everything up from scratch. I may just rely on Windows for ePub. David Griffith On 06/02/2016 12:54, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: Although I think iBooks for Mac is really quite horrible, an unfinished counterpart to its far-superior iOS version, I didn’t have any trouble using it. Once you interact with the scroll area, you can stay interacted with it, and even continuous read, and it will plough through the book, overcoming any navigational boundary. Is this really not what you have? Damn. :( -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: iBooks still unusable after clean install
On Windows I use QRead and as far as I can tell preserves structure fine for the purposes I have used it for. Control H will bring up a navigable list of headings in any book or magazine and this is my main method of navigation. I will put it on my VM Ware Fusion image of Win 7 as a mac alternatibve to iBooks for now. I used to use Stanza on the Mac. Unfortunately Stanza does not seem to support modern epub file on the Mac any more though it stills handles mobi files OK as long as you install the legacy Java stuff when prompted. This is a work around for the RNIB Talking Newspaper service as stuff is available as mobi as well as epub from that library. David Griffith 06/02/2016 20:35, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: Yes, clean installs are best done clean. It’s a pain, but it’s always worth doing the clean part. There will be corrupt preferences and long-dead traces of previous crashes or other problems that would be swept up by simply cloning the Library folders. From what you’re saying, though, it sounds like your investments of time are best elsewhere. To be honest, I rarely use iBooks for OS X for reading at all. You only need it to set up your book library for iTunes to sync to your iDevices. If I could opt out of that, and have my books back in my media folder (which is not on my boot device) you can be sure that I would. What, out of interest, do you use for ePub on Windows? Anything that preserves structure? -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Is Microsoft Office unusable under El Capitan?
This is a time for disappointment with apps on my Mac. Microsoft Word on the Mac appears to have deteriorated in Accessibility since I last used it under Yosemite. I had allowed it to install all update. For example it appears impossible to select text in a manner that is visible and audible through Voiceover. I can only navigate characters by using the Quick Nav rota to read characters and whilst characters are spoken he cursor does not appear to follow this as any attempt then to edit text will result in editing occurring outside of the word focussed in the rota. Also even using the rota selecting text is not a straightforward option. I am minded to remove Office from myMac and release the subscription for another machine, possibly a Windows Tablet. I thought I should check whether again these issues are peculiar to me or common to others. David Griffith -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
