Re: [VOTE] Wave 0.4.0-rc10

2015-10-25 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hey folks, I checked but didn't find anything. +1 from me. I checked on legals of course. Cheers On Sat, Oct 24, 2015, at 01:11, Evan Hughes wrote: > +1 > On 24/10/2015 4:17 AM, "Ben Hegarty" wrote: > > > +1 > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 5:45 AM, Michael MacFadden < > > michael.macfad...@gm

Re: Coming Months

2015-04-20 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Sun, Apr 19, 2015 at 12:26 PM Evan Hughes wrote: > > > > > just a reminder that this is happening 20th April, 1800 > > > > > > On 13 April 2015 at 18:49, Christian Grobmeier > > > wrote: > > > > > > > great, lets make it 20th apr

Re: Coming Months

2015-04-13 Thread Christian Grobmeier
unately I > > was not present during the last hangout so some information on how the > > "calling" process happened would be helpful. > > > > @Grobmeier: > > - Agreed > > - Seems the 6pm (UTC) sessions early in the week are pretty common > > -

Re: Coming Months

2015-04-11 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Just checked the doodle and had this on mind: - we should make sure that as many committers as possible are there. In example. I consider Ali a very important person to participate - from mentor perspective, I think it's ok if at least one of us can participate. I would be sad if I can't meet you

Re: [VOTE] Wave Release candidate 8

2015-04-11 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Apr 9, 2015, at 23:31, Yuri Z wrote: > It's release candidate 8 for version 0.4.0 alpha. If you think we should > name it something else - let me know. > > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 11:35 PM Christian Grobmeier > > wrote: > > > +1 > > > > However, I am st

Re: [VOTE] Wave Release candidate 8

2015-04-09 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1 However, I am still very confused by the link saying it's 0.8 and the artifacts saying it's 0.4. Are we sure this is what we want? It might pass the IPMC also because naming the release is not something which can/should be blocked, but it might confuse users. On Thu, Apr 9, 2015, at 21:49, Yur

Re: RC7 Vote Release

2015-04-09 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Thanks Yuri for bringing this up. I missed that part, and you are right, having the -incubation part is mandatory. Ali: I think it is better to stay formal in this case. We are voting on the "exact stuff", and changing a name, somehow changes things. I am pretty sure it would be complained about

Re: Coming Months

2015-04-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
urg, now i am depressed as i realized how busy i am. Basically I am also open to later suggestions, if this required by US citizens. On Mon, Apr 6, 2015, at 03:39, Ali Lown wrote: > Here is a fairly large Doodle poll to see see when may work as a good > date/time for a hangout. > > http://doodle

Re: RC7 Vote Release

2015-04-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
's. > > gpg --verify apache-wave-bin-0.4.0-alpha.tar.bz2.asc > > gpg: Signature made Tue Mar 31 23:59:42 2015 IDT using RSA key ID > FDE34B63 > > gpg: Good signature from "Yuri Zelikov " > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 11:46 PM Christian Grobmeier >

Re: RC7 Vote Release

2015-04-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier
, 2015 at 9:31 PM Ali Lown wrote: > > > I did not sign this? Are you verifying with gpg --verify? > > > > Could you provide a snip of 'gpg -k' for what you believe to be myself and > > Yuri - and check it against KEYS. > > > > Ali > > O

Re: RC7 Vote Release

2015-04-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I am confused because Yuri was sending out the release, but my shell tells me this release was signed by Ali. Can you clarify who actually signed this? Otherwise it looks as the sigs would be fine. RAT brought me this: http://creadur.apache.org/rat/apache-rat/index.html ***

Report re-added

2015-03-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi guys, last month Wave reported, but your mentors like me have failed to sign the report. I was asked to resubmit the report, which I did today. I also signed this report. If you have any changes for the report, you could do that now. If there is nothing more to add from your side, then you ca

Discuss: Release (was: Fwd: Re: Actions Items (was: Roadmap))

2015-03-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
d I prepare a new RC from the master branch? On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 6:05 PM Christian Grobmeier wrote: > OK, understood. > > I think it's a psychological important step to release the code, even > when its half-baked and early. If necessary, give it an alpha label. > This is e

Re: Actions Items (was: Roadmap)

2015-03-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
ally we can create new RC candidate today and vote. From > what I know all legal issues are already solved. > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:43 PM Christian Grobmeier > > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > from the huge thread "Roadmap" I took a way the f

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
015 at 12:33 PM Christian Grobmeier > > wrote: > > > Hi Kirill, > > > > glad to see your efforts on wiab.pro. > > > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015, at 16:48, Kirill Kostyuchenko wrote: > > > We support our own wiab.pro instance and would be glad if Apa

Actions Items (was: Roadmap)

2015-03-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Both items are small enough to be resolved with in April. Volunteers should learn how to make releases at Apache, also learn and improve the build process. I think this is a great step for new volunteers. Thoughts? Christian - Original message ----- From: Christian Grobmeier To: "wave

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
dle). > > > > 3. Re-think how we should solve the tight coupling/great complexity of > > client-server protocol. Maybe we should split the Wiab project into two > > parts server and client - where server will depend on compiled javascript > > client. > > > > >

Re: Coming Months

2015-03-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, I was once attending such a meeting and will do it again if it is helpful to this community. Mind to organize something via in example doodle? Cheers Christian On Tue, Mar 31, 2015, at 05:26, Evan Hughes wrote: > Hey all, > > could we get a Google hangout of the Mentors and contributors t

Roadmap

2015-03-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
we have volunteers for the next months. Why not discussing what we should do? My first preference would be: craft a release. I forgot what was missing back then, but it would be great to find out from the mail archives and create jira issues for the open things. Maybe Ali could help here, as he wa

Re: Raise your hands if you would like to participate

2015-03-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Awesome feedback so far. Keep it coming. All non-committers: please consider signing an ICLA right now. https://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt We can only accept code contributions with a signed ICLA. Also we can only vote you in the team when we have your ICLA on file. If any questions on the

Re: Wave and Incubation

2015-03-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
> > Ali > > On 23 March 2015 at 14:06, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > if Wave moves out this list, Jira etc will be read only, but available. > > Same for the current source code. > > > > I agree with 1: in the end

Raise your hands if you would like to participate

2015-03-23 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Ok, let's be serious and be realistic. Is anybody here who is willing to actively participate in this project in the next 3 months? My point is: if we don't have a single person who can work on Wave until July, then we can safely say it is likely we don't have volunteers here afterwards. In this

Re: Wave and Incubation

2015-03-23 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, if Wave moves out this list, Jira etc will be read only, but available. Same for the current source code. I agree with 1: in the end Apache is a strong brand and also shows that you can rely on a few things. However at this point we know the benefits of Apache, but can this project also fulf

Re: Wave and Incubation

2015-03-16 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I would like to highlight that retirement does not mean end of life. There is a chance thing will get easier once on GitHub. Don't forget, Apache is not only a great community, it's also a set of rules, frameworks, restrictions and so on. It's do-able for a bigger community. But the Wave community

Re: March 2015 Report

2015-02-28 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Any volunteers for this report? On Fri, Feb 27, 2015, at 07:01, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > > Greetings, {podling} developers, > > The "marvin" automated report reminder script didn't fire for whatever > reason this week, so I'm sending out a bulk reminder manually for the 18 > podlings who are exp

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Sep 2014 ([ppmc])

2014-08-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Thanks folks, I signed it! Regards, Christian -- Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com On Fri, Aug 29, 2014, at 12:27 PM, Ali Lown wrote: > I have extended the Wave report with a few more details. > > Feel free to change/add more. > > Ali > > On 29 August 2014

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Sep 2014 ([ppmc])

2014-08-27 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Any takers? Regards, Christian -- Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com On Wed, Aug 27, 2014, at 04:15 PM, Marvin wrote: > > > Dear podling, > > This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache > Incubator PMC. > It is an initial reminder to gi

Re: Third party dependencies from http://wave.alown.co.uk fail the build

2014-08-25 Thread Christian Grobmeier
MIT should be no problem actually. You may want to check that page: http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-a On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Yuri Z wrote: > I guess MIT license should allow this, right? > > > On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Upayavira wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, Aug

Re: [VOTE] Release Wave 0.5 based on RC5

2014-08-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
so we'll surely find out about it. And of course, we can highlight things we are uncertain of when we forward the vote. Regards, Christian Ali On 12 Aug 2014 05:38, "Christian Grobmeier" wrote: Hi sorry for the delay! I meant: the LICENSE file should only contain the

Re: [VOTE] Release Wave 0.5 based on RC5

2014-08-11 Thread Christian Grobmeier
t; > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: > >> Thats good then, thanks for letting me know. >> >> On 23 Jul 2014, at 22:59, Ali Lown wrote: >> >>> The thumnbail_patterns files were fixed by Vicente back in December. >>> The

Re: [VOTE] Release Wave 0.5 based on RC5

2014-07-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
y are part of the source. >> Anyway, i think we can add the headers. >> Regarding images in thumbnail - i think we sorted out this issue. >> I ll make fixes and create rc6. >> On Jul 23, 2014 10:57 PM, "Christian Grobmeier" >> wrote: >> >>>

Re: [VOTE] Release Wave 0.5 based on RC5

2014-07-23 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Unfortunately I found some issues which should be solved before we can release: I found these file without headers. Many of them are generated, but I found others in the same folders which were generated too and had a license header. So I think we can apply them here as well: WaveClientRpc.j

Release

2014-07-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi folks, before quite a while, we were discussing a release. It's still not there, and I would like to know what the actual problem is. As you know, releases are considered a sign of a healthy project in the incubator. It's currently discussed within the IPMC why projects which don't manage

Re: An Open Source implementation of Google Drive Realtime API

2014-07-09 Thread Christian Grobmeier
This looks like awesome work. What are your plans with it? Are you considering to contribute this to Wave? On 8 Jul 2014, at 8:07, 田传武 wrote: Hi all, I'd like to share an open-source project which implements nearly all features of the google drive realtime api. *Google Drive Realtime API* <

Re: Urgent: Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Jun 2014 ([ppmc])

2014-06-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
email, appreciate what you did. Regards Christian Ali On 4 June 2014 19:43, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Hello dear Wavers, anybody volunteering for this report? We have had a pre-warning on 28.05 it would be great if the community here would stepping up on its own rather let me remember al

Urgent: Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Jun 2014 ([ppmc])

2014-06-04 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello dear Wavers, anybody volunteering for this report? We have had a pre-warning on 28.05 it would be great if the community here would stepping up on its own rather let me remember all the time. Report should be submitted today. However asap (lets say tomorrow would maybe be possible)

Re: Licenses on generated files

2014-05-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 14 Jan 2014, at 22:18, Ali Lown wrote: > Since we are shipping them as part of the product, and not as something > that the user must build themselves, I think they must have a ASF header. Belated, but agreed: any file shipped must have a license header, except there are technical reasons whic

Re: Who is going to write? :-) was: Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Mar 2014 ([ppmc])

2014-03-04 Thread Christian Grobmeier
thanks, signed! On 4 Mar 2014, at 13:11, Yuri Z wrote: > Thanks Ali > On Mar 4, 2014 2:11 PM, "Ali Lown" wrote: > >> I have added a report for Wave. >> >> @Anyone: feel free to add anything I may have missed. >> >> Ali >> >> On 26

Who is going to write? :-) was: Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Mar 2014 ([ppmc])

2014-02-26 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Folks, lot happened. We have more activity since we discussed retirement. Any volunteer to compile a small report? On 26 Feb 2014, at 15:15, Marvin wrote: Dear podling, This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you ple

Re: [VOTE] To stay or not to stay

2013-12-10 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 10 Dec 2013, at 21:10, Upayavira wrote: As I'm sure you can imagine, I've been thinking about this quite a bit recently. If a project still has some life (and Wave does), really the only other thing it needs to stay in the incubator is engaged mentors. The mentors are the link between the pod

Re: Incubation status

2013-12-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
be better off outside Apache at this point (in the future maybe it'd be better to go back, but I don't see how things could get worse by leaving Apache now). On 11/28/13 11:02, Christian Grobmeier wrote: I believe it makes sense to discuss if the incubator is the right place. Incubati

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Dec 2013 ([ppmc])

2013-12-03 Thread Christian Grobmeier
t 11:53 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Here we go again. Any volunteers to report? Unfortunately the steam seems to be out of Wave again... On 28 Nov 2013, at 4:58, Marvin wrote: Dear podling, This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator PMC. It is an initia

Re: Wave Kickstarter

2013-12-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 2 Dec 2013, at 18:35, Joseph Gentle wrote: On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: That all being said, with all the new ideas and hope I would say we should postpone the "go to github discussion" a little more. I think ppl will support some ASF Wave m

Re: Wave Kickstarter

2013-12-02 Thread Christian Grobmeier
unsubscribe? California Office: Toll Free: Skype: Twitter: Facebook:209-644-2205 855-544-MKTG MKTGExperts @ MKTGExperts Over 6,000 Followers @ MKTGExperts Over 1,400 likes On Dec 2, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Joseph Gentle wrote: On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Christian Grobmeier

Re: Wave Kickstarter

2013-12-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, On 1 Dec 2013, at 19:24, Joseph Gentle wrote: > On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Ali Lown wrote: >> My only worry with a KS is how do we market it? As beyond putting it >> on Hacker News, explaining an P2P OT-backend communication system is >> likely to confuse (if not discourage) potential ba

Re: Incubation status

2013-12-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
wave as the main discussion area maintains the openness , searchability, and also longevity of the discussion. On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: On 29 Nov 2013, at 16:40, Fleeky Flanco wrote: i really dont understand why i have to be explaining the usefullness of

Re: Incubation status

2013-12-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
is to use Wave but send backups automatically to mailing lists. There was some work in that direction, but no results so far. Thanks. On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: On 29 Nov 2013, at 16:40, Fleeky Flanco wrote: i really dont understand why i have to be

Re: Incubation status

2013-11-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 29 Nov 2013, at 16:40, Fleeky Flanco wrote: i really dont understand why i have to be explaining the usefullness of using wave to communicate with the people on this list. its kindof amazing. If you don't understand why we operate on a mailing list then you probably have not understood th

Re: Incubation status

2013-11-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
maintainers. Its part of the apache way to pick you up from a certain place and help you to grow into the community. Cheers ~~~ Thomas & Bertines online review show: http://randomreviewshow.com/index.html Try it! You might even feel ambivalent about it :) On 29 November 2013 14:07

Re: Incubation status

2013-11-29 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On 29 Nov 2013, at 13:50, Raphael Bircher wrote: Hi Upayavira Am 29.11.13 13:24, schrieb Upayavira: The way open source communities such as this one work, the road map needs to be defined by the people doing the work. It would be easy for some of us to come up with a cool roadmap, but if code

Re: Incubation status

2013-11-28 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, On 28 Nov 2013, at 15:18, Ali Lown wrote: @Christian: Playing the devils advocate I ask you (again): Is this still Devil's advocate though? I have had a very similar email sitting in my drafts for the last month asking the same questions about the future of Wave. Sad :-| Do you folks

Incubation status

2013-11-28 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi folks, it seems as the first steam with the new people is gone. I believe it makes sense to discuss if the incubator is the right place. Incubation has a specific goal: forming a team which can do releases and is - in a way - active. I see there is little activity at all. The only person i

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Dec 2013 ([ppmc])

2013-11-28 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Here we go again. Any volunteers to report? Unfortunately the steam seems to be out of Wave again... On 28 Nov 2013, at 4:58, Marvin wrote: Dear podling, This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time t

Re: Why does nobody vote on the release?

2013-09-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Am 14.09.13 10:26, schrieb Ali Lown: >>> Also, don't assume you need to be a committer to vote. >> >> I thought I had to be. So can any member of the community vote? How much >> do I need to know about the code to submit a vote? For instance, I do not >> know much about how federation works behi

Re: Why does nobody vote on the release?

2013-09-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
people should idle on irc more on irc.freenode.net #wiab. there are > fun interesting talks happening everynow and then :) > > fleeky > > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Joseph Gentle wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Christian Grobmeier >> w

Why does nobody vote on the release? (was: Fwd: Re: [VOTE] Release Wave 0.4 based on RC4)

2013-09-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Am 12.09.13 20:35, schrieb Ali Lown: > It seems nobody else is able to give feedback at this point. > Christian raised some things that are worth doing, so I may as well > start again with RC5, which I will push up in a few weeks time. [It is > a bit too busy for me ATM.] > > Hopefully, by being a

Re: [VOTE] Release Wave 0.4 based on RC4

2013-09-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1, but here are a few comments. I am not sure if some of them would block the realease in the incubator vote. - please make sure you don't use the code signing key for emails. I saw you have your email as alias in your key. Just wanted to say. - the KEYS file is inside the distribution, tempts

Re: [VOTE] Release Wave 0.4 based on RC4

2013-09-04 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Mate i am sorry i was busy until today. Tomorrow I will find some time to review your hard work earliest thing in the morning, promsied! (after feeding my son of course :-)) Am 04.09.13 22:40, schrieb Ali Lown: > Today's ping. :P > > On 03/09/2013, Ali Lown wrote: >> Fleeky, >> >> Information on

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Sep 2013 ([ppmc])

2013-09-01 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi Folks lets not miss the chance to tell the Incubator how cool we became the past quarter. Any volunteers? cheers Christian Am 01.09.13 15:43, schrieb Marvin: > Dear podling, > > This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator > PMC. > It is an initial reminder to

Re: A request for feedback on LICENSE and NOTICE (and others) prior to RC4

2013-08-20 Thread Christian Grobmeier
ve very good arguments if we do it like that. Cheers Christian > > Thanks. > Ali > > On 18/08/2013, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >> Hi, >> >> first off, here are soem links: >> http://www.apache.org/dev/release-publishing.html >> http://www.apache.org/

Re: A request for feedback on LICENSE and NOTICE (and others) prior to RC4

2013-08-18 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, first off, here are soem links: http://www.apache.org/dev/release-publishing.html http://www.apache.org/dev/release.html On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Ali Lown wrote: > - Moved all third-party things to be downloaded automatically during > build - one of the reasons for an IPMC -1. There

Re: A request for feedback on LICENSE and NOTICE (and others) prior to RC4

2013-08-17 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi Ali, I am going to look at it in detail tomorrow (Sunday) Cheers! On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Ali Lown wrote: > Christian/Upayavira, > (And others are welcome to provide feedback, but I thought it best to > ask the mentors on this topic) > > Following on from 0.4-rc3, I have been (slow

Re: Apache Wave Google+ Account

2013-07-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
ned and the process is "new", thats why a few trademarks appear which have not been approved by the trademarks VP. Its perfectly fine if you would start this, if you like Cheers > > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 a

Re: Apache Wave Google+ Account

2013-07-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:04 PM, John Blossom wrote: > Social Media guidelines are up, I made a few minor tweaks to bring the > Cloud Stack template up to date. > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WAVE/Apache+Wave+Social+Media+Guidelines This is very good! I would add that PMC membe

Re: Apache Wave Google+ Account

2013-07-31 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 9:49 PM, John Blossom wrote: > Yuri, > > I am fine with WaveWatchers being who we are, but WaveWatchers carries its > own branding - if we're going to do things specific to Apache Wave as a > community, then we should use that brand specifically, is my thinking. Most > espe

Re: Reminder: it should happen on-list (regarding upcoming Google Hangout)

2013-07-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Vicente J. Ruiz Jurado wrote: > El 23/07/13 21:17, Joseph Gentle escribió: >> Speaking of which, I'd like to start actually using wave in this >> community. > > +1000 We already discussed this and it is most likely possible (depends on infra final words). That be

Re: Reminder: it should happen on-list (regarding upcoming Google Hangout)

2013-07-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 3:27 AM, John Blossom wrote: > @Zachary, to be clear, I do think that WaveWatchers should continue to play > an important role in developing enthusiasm and support for Apache Wave,but > we need social media channels that reflect the consensus and the official > announcement

Re: Reminder: it should happen on-list (regarding upcoming Google Hangout)

2013-07-24 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro wrote: > I also support this. So far basically all social updates on the project > have come from the Wave Watchers (at least on > G+, > FB , and > Twitter

Reminder: it should happen on-list (regarding upcoming Google Hangout)

2013-07-23 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi folks, please don't forget that all Wave related activties should happen on this list so others can follow. I read on the Hangout invitiation the "core developers have agreed on $x", but cannot find that agreement here. Thanks for considering and caring about this very important suggestion. C

Re: John's Wiki Permissions

2013-06-27 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Angus Turner wrote: > Hey Michael, > Wondering if its possible to give someone else admin to the wiki so > you don't have to do it all the time... Every PMC member should have Admin-Wiki access on request Cheers > > > On 6/28/13, Michael MacFadden wrote: >> Jo

Re: Joining as a Mentor

2013-06-25 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Thanks all! I have subscribed myself now On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 6:45 PM, John Blossom wrote: > I've appreciated your help and insight, glad to have you aboard. Best, John > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: > >> Hello Wave'rs, >&

Joining as a Mentor

2013-06-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello Wave'rs, as you might know, I am Apache Member and involved in various projects. I also have mentored a bunch of podlings, like for example OpenOffice, OGNL and Onami. Currently I am helping the Ripple podling. You also have already seen in this list. Currently there is Upayavira who does a

Re: Feedback from Incubator Vote

2013-06-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
If I remember correctly, there is a maven transition nearly completed. Ivy is a good option, but if maven is already done, why not use that? On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Upayavira wrote: > Or use Ivy to download from the Maven repo. > > Upayavira > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Bruno

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Wave 0.4 based on RC3

2013-06-20 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi Ali, unfortunately i have not seen the IPMC reviewing the release within the three days voting period. Please leave the vote open and write a reminder from time to time. here is some more information on the voting status: http://people.apache.org/~brane/incubator/votes.html Cheers On Wed, Ju

"Project leads", "earning merit", Commit-then-review

2013-06-19 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi all, from time to time I see in several projects the term "lead developer" coming up. Sometimes incubating projects are confused also when to grant committership. On the "lead developer": the ASF is a do-cracy, as we sometimes say. The guy who "does things" is actually leading it. We do not ha

Re: OpenOffice and Wave

2013-06-16 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Please note, Rob is PMC member of the Apache OpenOffice project and knows a lot on the project and how it operates. On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > I'm not subscribed to this list, but Christian Grobmeier pointed me to > John's post about how OT and Wave coul

Life at the incubator

2013-06-16 Thread Christian Grobmeier
hello folks, since there are a lot of new people around here, I thought I would share this: "Life In The Apache Incubator by Jukka Zitting at ApacheCon EU…" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KopPbWS87fw Its a presentation by Jukka on the Incubator from last year. If you prefer video, instead of rea

Re: A Call To Developers

2013-06-16 Thread Christian Grobmeier
ny people as possible to the power of Wave through outlets >> such as Github. But at the end of the day, if we want to change the world >> with Wave, then we want to play it smart. >> >> Best, >> >> John >> >> On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 3:20 AM, C

Re: [VOTE RESULT] (was: [VOTE] Release Wave 0.4 based on RC3)

2013-06-16 Thread Christian Grobmeier
but I seriously don't know. Cheers Christian On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Ali Lown wrote: > Updated (again) results for RC3: > https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wave-dev/201306.mbox/%3CCABRGrVd6n5_LLWUUfaEkY4kzLDUmd-txyadkMqWKmTfbWTGkSA%40mail.gmail.com%3E > > +1: 8

Re: (Hypothetically) moving the WEG to Apache

2013-06-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hello, I am trying to answer a few formal questions: On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro wrote: > - Is technically “owned” by me (as far as GitHub is concerned; I am open to > contributions from anyone). If you have got contributions, we need to make sure they have a clean

Re: A Call To Developers

2013-06-15 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Joseph Gentle wrote: > On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Christian Grobmeier > You mentioned that the code has to be first committed to the apache > repositories for legal reasons. What exactly are the requirements > there? Is it bad if I have my own

Re: A Call To Developers

2013-06-14 Thread Christian Grobmeier
s huge knowledge what the ASF offers too. Cheers Christian > All the best, > > John Blossom > On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 4:17 AM, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:27 AM, John Blossom wrote: >> > Github+Apache+Wave=awesomeness. >

Re: A Call To Developers

2013-06-14 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:27 AM, John Blossom wrote: > Github+Apache+Wave=awesomeness. > > John Please be aware, that for legal reasons all code must live on ASF platforms first. We have a mirror on github: https://github.com/apache But in first place, we need to deal with code ourselves. We can

Re: A Call To Developers

2013-06-13 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 5:15 AM, Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro wrote: > Joseph's parenthetical comment basically sums up the reason I have been > doing things the way I have. I would love to see some larger wave > organization take over the Wave Extensions Gallery ( > github.com/zmyaro/wave-extensions-

Re: Wave Future Options

2013-06-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Yuri Z wrote: > I actually like GWT in general and the fact that it allows to re-use the > same OT code both on the server and client. Moreover, I think that the > client is not that important, we just need to provide better Robot API and > let people create their

Re: Wave Future Options

2013-06-12 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi, one comment on the "graduation" aspect: basically it is not necessary to release tons of artifacts to graduate. My approach would be to continue with releasing the 0.4 package, there is not harm done with that, even when the code base completely changes. The purpose is to "learn releasing". T

Re: [VOTE RESULT] (was: [VOTE] Release Wave 0.4 based on RC3)

2013-06-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
list over the last few years: >>https://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#wavehttps://people.ap >>ache.org/committers-by-project.html#wave >> >>- Ali Lown >>- Christian Grobmeier >>- Daniel Danilatos (though this was easily a year ago) >>- Lennard de Rij

Re: [VOTE RESULT] (was: [VOTE] Release Wave 0.4 based on RC3)

2013-06-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
lease. On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Ali Lown wrote: > The result of the voting is: > > +1 votes: 1 > > Christian Grobmeier (binding) > https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-wave-dev/201306.mbox/%3CCAPFNckhyJGt3ttmLQ6g0WfxPJYbjHzQqbg%3Dx3exDA34G6oY8wg%40mail.g

Re: Urgent, Wavers! Reporting time TODAY

2013-06-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
nder. >>> > I deliberately, left the report to do after the automated reminder so >>> > that somebody else could do some work this month... :) >>> > >>> > As nobody did so, I have now filled in a report. >>> > >>> > Ali &

Urgent, Wavers! Reporting time TODAY

2013-06-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
should be about community issues not code, so nearly complete release and increased engagement are the two main issues I'd mention. The email<->wave stuff could be useful to raise, although I'd be okay leaving it a while also. Anyone volunteering? Upayavira On Sat, Jun 1, 20

Re: Community mailing list?

2013-06-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Folks please don't forget one thing: if it doesn't happen on list, it didn't happen. Votes, decision makings in general etc belong to the mailing list. It needs to be documented, there need to be a chance for non-IRCers to intervene. Also it might make sense to discuss debugging things on ml - othe

Re: [VOTE] Release Wave 0.4 based on RC3

2013-06-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
+1 (IPMC) I didn't find anything else so far which is problematic. My guess is, other IPMC members will find something (first releases are worst) I checked on licenses, signatures, sha and looked around. I didn't do technical checks, like running the server or so. My take on pre 1.0 version is, t

Re: [VOTE] Release Wave 0.4 based on RC3

2013-06-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Great, thanks for your help. All is well now. For all others who want to quickly check signatures and sha, here is a little script. I included MD5 checking as well, maybe its of use later (md5 is pretty common at the asf too). Please note, KEYS must be imported to succeed this. Also download locati

Re: [VOTE] Release Wave 0.4 based on RC3

2013-06-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
I have a problem with the SHA1 files, not sure if it is my fault. $ openssl sha1 /release-checking/apache-wave-bin-0.4-incubating.zip SHA1(/Users/cy/Documents/release-checking/apache-wave-bin-0.4-incubating.zip)= dc3970d589b4db222b2672bae6a3bff4830b07e3 $ cat /release-checking/apache-wave-bin-0.4

Re: Invitation to On-Air Hangout

2013-06-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
pick the right model. > > Best, > John > On Jun 5, 2013 12:27 PM, "Christian Grobmeier" wrote: > >> hello folks, >> >> i am around, but i cannot join somehow. >> >> Cheers >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Alfredo Abamb

Re: Community mailing list?

2013-06-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
; >>> I'd say let's continue the conversations for a while longer, and when >>> the time comes, I can create the list (I have the necessary karma). >>> >>> Upayavira > thanks > >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013, at 08:51 PM, Ed - 0x1b,

Re: Community mailing list?

2013-06-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Ali Lown wrote: > Following on from the talk, if we intend to develop Apache Wave as an > end-product focused project, we should probably migrate talks of > 'visions' and 'community' to a separate mailing list from to allow > wave-dev to be kept as a developer list

Re: Wave Logo

2013-06-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
One thing to add: we have a mailinglist dealing with such kind of questions. Please also ask at tradema...@apache.org (you can cc this list of course). On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Upayavira wrote: > While a logo might be open source, trademark law will restrict what you > can do with it.

Re: Invitation to On-Air Hangout

2013-06-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
hm didn't receive it so far, but thanks On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro wrote: > I sent you the Hangout On Air link in a Hangout (chat). > > > —Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro > > > On 5 June 2013 12:26, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > >> he

Re: Invitation to On-Air Hangout

2013-06-05 Thread Christian Grobmeier
x27;ll personally be helping the team behind the event. So fire away if you > need help or to know more how these "things" called Hangouts on Air and > Events on Air work. > > Alfredo > > http://alfredo.abambres.com > > *"Moving, always moving, and living inside m

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