On 1 Dec 2013, at 15:33, Frank R. wrote:

Where to read the requirements? And, the status of the works against them?

Here is some information you might find useful:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html

Please see the "communication" section in special.

So far I have seen the project operates as described. However it needs to develop community and of course learn to release (Ali did a great job but didn't found
enough support from this project).

Moving communication to Wave only is NOT an option at this point of time. It has been discussed; one solution is to use Wave but send backups automatically to mailing lists. There was some work in that direction, but no results so far.





Thanks.


On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>wrote:

On 29 Nov 2013, at 16:40, Fleeky Flanco wrote:

i really dont understand why i have to be explaining the usefullness of
using wave to communicate with the people on this list. its kindof
amazing.


If you don't understand why we operate on a mailing list then you probably
have
not understood that the ASF tries to develop in an open way. All
discussions must held
public and must be archived for a long time. The only solution so far is
mailing lists.
Wave is simply not that far to provide that at the moment.

Of course there is an opportunity to bring Wave to the ASF. But there are
a lot of requirements
to meet. If you want to develop here, you need to fulfill these
requirements.

We have discussed that several times. Every of the committers understood
these requirements
and were working against them. However Wave is not there yet.

This doesn't answer the question which was initially asked: is the ASF the
right place?
Or more precise: can we as a project ever succeed the incubator and become
an ASF project?

This has nothing to do with the great technology behind Wave nor the
willingness of people.
It is: is there enough manpower to live the ASF way or not.

Christian



fleeky


On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Robert Brumbelow <rkbrumbe...@gmail.com
wrote:

Fleeky, those are fine for us, they will do little for outside
exposure. I would suspect having to use wave in order to learn to use
wave might be self defeating.

On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Fleeky Flanco <fle...@gmail.com>
wrote:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WAVE/Building+Wave+in+a+Box

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WAVE/Home

also there is  #wiab on irc.freenode.net

also Ali just a few emails up mentioned that you could start a
discussion
on his wave server , why not try those things first? and if there is a problem, go to Ali's wave server and simply start a problems wave add
the
participant @domain to the wave and everyone inclduing Ali on that
server
should be able to see your problem wave, and maybe attempt to answer
your
problem.

-fleeky


On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Robert Brumbelow <
rkbrumbe...@gmail.com
wrote:

Thomas,
Hangouts on air are the recorded versions of Google Hangouts,
they are streamed and recorded via Youtube. Screencasts, I thought,
also defaulted to being recorded.

I know during my years of teaching, video was often preferred by
students simply because even in step by step instruction, aka hand holding, there would be something glossed over, ignored or assumed known by students or the teacher. Video shows every keystroke, command
and mouse movement




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Kelly Brumbelow



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