Folks please don't forget one thing: if it doesn't happen on list, it didn't happen. Votes, decision makings in general etc belong to the mailing list. It needs to be documented, there need to be a chance for non-IRCers to intervene. Also it might make sense to discuss debugging things on ml - others may see people are active here (important to potential contributors) and of course its a great documentation if somebody runs in a similar problem.
I know some people love IRC/whatever, but ASF is mailing list centric. That said, if folks would write the Wave/Mailinglist Bridge, nothing speaks against using Wave. In fact, I would think this might even cause some kind of revolution here. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak) <sten...@gmail.com> wrote: > Some of us are at #wiab@freenode while we test federation, since it's > faster to debug stuff over IM than over emails. > > > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Fleeky Flanco <fle...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> also as much as i really really want to do most of this communication on >> someone (anyone's) wave server has anyone thought of having an official >> wave irc channel on freenode or something ? >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:53 AM, John Blossom <jblos...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Upayavira, Thanks, those are my thoughts exactly. I will not inundate >> this >> > community unnecessarily with communications, but I agree that focusing on >> > having a community that's vibrant and engaged is a key function of this >> > list. If we get more developers excited and engaged then that's a good >> > thing - and that's what we need to focus on. Once there's more consensus >> on >> > development direction, then we can think about a platform-product channel >> > as necessary. Perhaps in the meantime we can agree to some subject line >> > protocol that will make it easier for people to filter messages, such as >> a >> > hashtag (#waveforward). >> > >> > Best, >> > John >> > >> > email: jblos...@gmail.com >> > phone: 203.293.8511 >> > google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> wrote: >> > >> > > Paulo, >> > > >> > > I'm not saying we won't separate, I'm just saying I want us to wait a >> > > bit. I'm asking you to sit with the pain for a bit longer, so we can >> > > allow what the other, non-coding discussions are really about to >> emerge, >> > > and for others to show up and start engaging with the coding part of >> > > this project - that's the most important thing in the end. Talk is >> easy, >> > > actually doing takes more effort. >> > > >> > > Upayavira >> > > >> > > >> > > On Thu, Jun 6, 2013, at 02:51 PM, Paulo Pires wrote: >> > > > Please, separate things! Political & management stuff one way, >> > > > development/user support another. >> > > > It's really painful to get dozens of e-mails just because of logo >> stuff >> > > > and such, no matter how important the subject is. And yes, I can use >> > > > filters, but still they're not perfect and are PITA to maintain. >> > > > >> > > > PP >> > > > >> > > > On Jun 6, 2013, at 1:58 PM, "John Blossom - Shore Communications >> Inc." >> > > > <jblos...@shore.com> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Good points all. I am content to continue the Wave:Forward level of >> > > > > discussion in this venue, as long as we're focusing on the >> > > re-architecture >> > > > > of the Wave platform it's very much a development focus. Perhaps >> > > another >> > > > > list will make sense when there's more of a product management >> focus >> > > for >> > > > > Wave - but first we need a more marketable platform. So I will >> > > continue to >> > > > > feed ideas on market requirements and product specifications here >> for >> > > now, >> > > > > unless something else evolves. And yes, it will be nice to "eat our >> > > own dog >> > > > > food" and use Wave itself as the communications platform. >> > > > > >> > > > > John >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > -- > Saludos, > Bruno González > > _______________________________________________ > Jabber: stenyak AT gmail.com > http://www.stenyak.com -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de
