On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Christian Grobmeier
<grobme...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
On 1 Dec 2013, at 19:24, Joseph Gentle wrote:
On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Ali Lown <a...@lown.me.uk> wrote:
My only worry with a KS is how do we market it? As beyond putting
it
on Hacker News, explaining an P2P OT-backend communication system
is
likely to confuse (if not discourage) potential backers.
(It also sounds more like the abstract for some academic research,
than a commercial project [the issue with being on the edge of
research for this technology]).
Aside from hackernews, we should talk to techcrunch and all the
other
little tech news places. We should do a meetup on the topic here in
SF
to gather support, and we should try to sell the story to our local
newspapers in our hometowns. I have friends who are good at this
stuff
that I can call on.
I agree though - the hardest part is (as you say) figuring out how
we
distill down the idea to make it easy to explain.
I can help a little with marketing. I have a well visited blog
meanwhile
and the right story might draw some good attention to a kickstarter
campaign.
Oh sweet, thanks! We'll also want to do a media blitz, telling
techcrunch and all those guys.
As I have some interest in making Wave happen and so I would even
support
the Kickstarter myself with $.
That all being said, with all the new ideas and hope I would say we
should
postpone the "go to github discussion" a little more. I think ppl
will
support some ASF Wave more than a "random github Wave". And be it
only
because of the safety for a clean IP.
Actually, I don't want to run this project through the ASF:
- I'd prefer to use the benevolent dictator model, at least for the
initial development period. I don't think the ASF is the right place
for brand new projects, and this will be entirely new code.
- I don't want to have to convince a peanut gallery of backers before
I make decisions about the project. I'm happy for the input, but
building consensus amongst 1000 people for every decision will kill
any project.
- Politically, I will also need to develop out of github for the
hip-new-project feel. Even google has started putting their projects
on github.
I'm don't actually think people will support an ASF wave more - I
doubt most developers know who the ASF are or what they do, let alone
regular people. The developers who have heard of the ASF probably
associate it more with old, mature XML libraries, Java build tools
with bad websites & enterprise tools like hadoop rather than young
agile projects. The ASF might make sense after a year or two, but I
want the project to mature outside of the ASF first.
The IP will be clean anyway - it'll be entirely new code, and I'll
probably keep the apache2 license for patent protection (that won't
do
much for a standalone project, but I might be able to flee under the
apache umbrella if any patent trolls actually come knocking).
Please let me know if I can do more to support this effort (speaking
with
my entrepreneur hat on, not my ASF hat)
Thanks - I may well take you up on that :)
I think the biggest way people will be able to help is to help get
the
word out if/when we launch a kickstarter. For this sort of thing
we'll
want a media blitz in the first few days of launching the kickstarter
to build momentum and get people talking about it.
-J
Cheers
Christian
-J
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