On 1 Dec 2013, at 15:35, Frank R. wrote:
Perhaps, we can have a temporary robot, say incubator-bot, to publish
waves
for a wave in a box server back to the mail list. That should be too
difficult to have.
Please search older mails in the archive. Somebody actually did some
work in that direction
On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Fleeky Flanco <fle...@gmail.com>
wrote:
christian, from my observations of the project i would have to answer
no,
its not working out ?
pardon my passion on this subject (@mailing list) but ive kept quiet
for
too long. id rather get an argument started on this rather then let
wave
die the slow death that it is currently facing. passion is what wave
needs
right now, not patience.
i dont think moving wave to github or getting everyone to actually
use wave
will magically make everything better, but i think that is a step in
the
right direction that Should have been taken a long time ago.
theres no reason that moving discussion to a wave server reduces the
open
nature of the discussion, as stated previously, its trivial to make
an
anonymous account to grant anyone access to this discussion if it was
on a
wave server. also anyone can register on a wave server and
participate in
the discussion if the wave has been setup properly, theres even a
patch
somewhere for rendering wave files as html files which would make it
searchable by google and everyone esle. federation should make
propogating
this data to multiple servers possible, using wave as the main
discussion
area maintains the openness , searchability, and also longevity of
the
discussion.
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Christian Grobmeier
<grobme...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 29 Nov 2013, at 16:40, Fleeky Flanco wrote:
i really dont understand why i have to be explaining the usefullness
of
using wave to communicate with the people on this list. its kindof
amazing.
If you don't understand why we operate on a mailing list then you
probably
have
not understood that the ASF tries to develop in an open way. All
discussions must held
public and must be archived for a long time. The only solution so
far is
mailing lists.
Wave is simply not that far to provide that at the moment.
Of course there is an opportunity to bring Wave to the ASF. But
there are
a lot of requirements
to meet. If you want to develop here, you need to fulfill these
requirements.
We have discussed that several times. Every of the committers
understood
these requirements
and were working against them. However Wave is not there yet.
This doesn't answer the question which was initially asked: is the
ASF
the
right place?
Or more precise: can we as a project ever succeed the incubator and
become
an ASF project?
This has nothing to do with the great technology behind Wave nor the
willingness of people.
It is: is there enough manpower to live the ASF way or not.
Christian
fleeky
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Robert Brumbelow <
rkbrumbe...@gmail.com
wrote:
Fleeky, those are fine for us, they will do little for outside
exposure. I would suspect having to use wave in order to learn to
use
wave might be self defeating.
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Fleeky Flanco <fle...@gmail.com>
wrote:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WAVE/Building+Wave+in+a+Box
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/WAVE/Home
also there is #wiab on irc.freenode.net
also Ali just a few emails up mentioned that you could start a
discussion
on his wave server , why not try those things first? and if
there is
a
problem, go to Ali's wave server and simply start a problems wave
add
the
participant @domain to the wave and everyone inclduing Ali on
that
server
should be able to see your problem wave, and maybe attempt to
answer
your
problem.
-fleeky
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Robert Brumbelow <
rkbrumbe...@gmail.com
wrote:
Thomas,
Hangouts on air are the recorded versions of Google Hangouts,
they are streamed and recorded via Youtube. Screencasts, I
thought,
also defaulted to being recorded.
I know during my years of teaching, video was often preferred by
students simply because even in step by step instruction, aka
hand
holding, there would be something glossed over, ignored or
assumed
known by students or the teacher. Video shows every keystroke,
command
and mouse movement
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Kelly Brumbelow
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