On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 5:15 AM, Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro
<zmy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Joseph's parenthetical comment basically sums up the reason I have been
> doing things the way I have.  I would love to see some larger wave
> organization take over the Wave Extensions Gallery (
> github.com/zmyaro/wave-extensions-gallery | waveextensions.org), but I do
> not want to make it part of Apache Wave because that would mean giving up
> git and GitHub's wiki and issue tracking tools.  If Apache had as nice and
> cohesive a system for such things as GitHub, Bitbucket, or Google Code, I
> would definitely be more open to the idea of handing the project over, but
> right now the tools feel rather ugly and disconnected.

this is history! ASF meanwhile supports git (not only by mirror).
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/
http://git.apache.org/

We have Confluence and Jira, which is very nice too.

You are welcome here :-)


> That said, I would definitely contribute to other Apache Wave projects when
> I can.  I have not contributed to WIAB because I am not very familiar with
> GWT, but if other projects were added (or if I learned more GWT :P) I would
> definitely contribute where I could.
>
>
> —Zachary “Gamer_Z.” Yaro
>
>
> On 12 June 2013 19:14, Joseph Gentle <jose...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I love it. Well said, and I totally agree. (Although I still like
>> having ShareJS on Github.)
>>
>> -J
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Michael MacFadden
>> <michael.macfad...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Wavers,
>> >
>> > It has become clear that there a MANY more people are interested in Wave
>> > that we had previously thought.  There recent explosion of interest is
>> > fantastic.  However, what I am seeing is that the wave community is
>> > splintered and fragmented.  There are a lot of people who have been doing
>> > development work on wave related concepts like OT, federation, etc
>> outside
>> > of Apache Wave.  Maybe they thought they were not welcome.  Maybe they
>> > though the existing code base was headed in the wrong direction.  Maybe
>> they
>> > thought we would not be open to their project ideas.  Who knows.
>>  Whatever
>> > the reason, there have been many side projects all over the web some how
>> > related to wave.  Either inspired by wave, or developed to explore some
>> > alternative to the way wave did something.
>> >
>> > I would like to try to unite these efforts in to one umbrella project.
>>  From
>> > a code base perspective, we can create multiple folders in our repository
>> > were proof of concepts and side projects can exist along side WiaB. If
>> this
>> > drives activity and interest to Apache Wave, then fantastic.  Sure we
>> would
>> > love to have 20 people jump in and help us with the current issues
>> directly
>> > in WiaB.  If people want to do that, by all means PLEASE HELP.  But if
>> that
>> > is not what you are interested in, but you ARE interested in some other
>> path
>> > forward, please join our community.  Please use Apache Wave as your home
>> to
>> > develop Wave technology.  Be it OT, Clients, Protocols, what have you.
>> > There is nothing that says the WiaB in its current form has to be the
>> only
>> > product produced by this project.  We could have a generic core OT
>> Engine /
>> > API that powers wave.  We could have the core server that leverages this
>> > engine.  We could have multiple clients, etc.
>> >
>> > I specifically named the project Apache Wave and not Apache Wave in a
>> Box,
>> > because the vision was the eventually this project would become the home
>> of
>> > a whole ecosystem of wave related things.
>> >
>> > If there is one current truth, it is that none of our groups has been
>> > independently successful in developing and distributing a widely used and
>> > adopted OT based collaboration project.  I think together we can be more
>> > successful than apart.  Yes that means we have to hash things out on the
>> > mailing list occasionally, but I think we are all open to input from
>> anyone.
>> > If we can create a place for side projects, then perhaps people will be
>> more
>> > free to bring their ideas and efforts here.
>> >
>> > To that end, I would put a call out to people who are currently working
>> on
>> > related projects to officially joint the Apache Wave community.
>>  Contribute
>> > some code, whatever that may be.  Help start a proof of concept for an OT
>> > Engine, work on the client server protocol, whatever you want to do,
>> come do
>> > it here.
>> >
>> > Together we can keep our collective momentum.  Become a committer here.
>>  We
>> > need you.
>> >
>> > Sincere Regards,
>> >
>> > ~Michael
>> >
>> >
>>



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