RE: [SAtalk] Worried about RBLs

2003-05-29 Thread Michael J. Kidd
Thanks! I really appreciate all the feedback. My blacklist is ever growing.. I run qmail, and I look at the queues every morning.. The biggest issue is that one of the domains hosted on my system used to have free webmail hosting via Everyone.net ... HUGE mistake! They obviously sell the email

Re: [SAtalk] 2.53 vs 2.55

2003-05-29 Thread Richard Hopkins
--On Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:33 AM +1200 Simon Byrnand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 10:40 28/05/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote: I just upgraded from 2.53 to 2.55. Was there some discussion awhile back about 2.55 having a problem with RBL? No, It's just that by an extremely annoying co-incidenc

[SAtalk] Cannot open bayes_path?

2003-05-29 Thread Paul Hutchings
Search on sourceforge appears totally screwed.. Every so often I see this in my maillog - May 18 07:42:06 relay spamd[18036]: Cannot open bayes_path /home/filter/.spamassassin/bayes R/W: File exists May 18 07:42:06 relay spamd[18036]: identified spam (50.0/5.0) for filter:500 in 11.6 seconds, 834

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange

2003-05-29 Thread Kai Schaetzl
John Stewart wrote on Wed, 28 May 2003 16:09:05 -0500: > You want the headers! Bayes uses these. That's correct, but if you look at a spamassassin -D output you see that the header information usually plays a marginal role. From a typical message you may have 1 - 3 matches in the headers but ab

Re: [SAtalk] I hate SpamAssassin

2003-05-29 Thread butrus orman
i luv it, it has been working flawless for me using suse 8.2 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: eBay Get office equipment for less on eBay! http://adfarm.mediaplex.com/ad/ck/711-11697-6916-5 __

Re: [SAtalk] I hate SpamAssassin

2003-05-29 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Ben M. VanWagner wrote on Wed, 28 May 2003 14:48:09 -0500: > How about adding a section in the HOWTO that lists customizing the > message as a CRUCIAL step in configuring the software. > cvs-2.60 includes now a routine which asks for a custom email address or URL. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin

[SAtalk] Maillog analysis

2003-05-29 Thread Mark
A few weeks ago I thought of an interesting new "statistical" way of fighting spam. Having collected a few weeks worth of maillog data (about 500 MB), I wrote a small Perl script, matching IP addresses by the following simple rule (in words): "Look at SMTP connections, and consider all IP addresse

Re: [SAtalk] 2.53 vs 2.55 - how is RBL timeout handled ?

2003-05-29 Thread Jack Gostl
On Thu, 29 May 2003, Stuart Gall wrote: > > The ideal way to do it would be to send out all the queries in parallel > > (asyncronously) at the start of the SA run, and receive the replies during > > the rbl_timeout period, so only those which actually did time out will fail > > to run. I have a

Re: [SAtalk] 2.53 vs 2.55 - how is RBL timeout handled ?

2003-05-29 Thread Stuart Gall
> The ideal way to do it would be to send out all the queries in parallel > (asyncronously) at the start of the SA run, and receive the replies during > the rbl_timeout period, so only those which actually did time out will fail > to run. I have a suspicion this is not the way it works now howev

Re: [SAtalk] Worried about RBLs

2003-05-29 Thread Stuart Gall
- Original Message - From: "Michael J. Kidd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 5:29 AM Subject: [SAtalk] Worried about RBLs > Hi all, > I run a server which hosts several sites. I've been using > Spamassassin for a while now, and absolutely love

RE: [SAtalk] some emails not tagged with SA headers

2003-05-29 Thread Gary Funck
> -Original Message- > From: Frank Ng > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 10:52 PM > > I noticed that spams fall through after I upgraded to spamassassin 2.54, and > when I look closer, it doesn't look like spamassassin even tags them. > > I turned on procmail logging and verbose mode and thi

[SAtalk] Cannot open bayes_path /home/filter/.spamassassin/bayes R/W: File exists

2003-05-29 Thread Chris Evans
I've started getting this message intermittently in the syslog on my small server. Spamd/SA 2.53 on Debian stable. If I look at the directory, the file doesn't exist. Does this happen if spamd gets called twice at nearly same time? Surely not? SA generally seems to be working but I feel I s

[SAtalk] some emails not tagged with SA headers

2003-05-29 Thread Frank Ng
I noticed that spams fall through after I upgraded to spamassassin 2.54, and when I look closer, it doesn't look like spamassassin even tags them. I turned on procmail logging and verbose mode and this is what it saids ... procmail: Locking "spamassassin.lock" procmail: Executing "/usr/local/b

Re: [SAtalk] Worried about RBLs

2003-05-29 Thread Bob Apthorpe
HI, On Wed, 28 May 2003 22:52:32 -0500 (CDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In short, yes there are a lot of ignorant people that look no farther than > the From: line. Fortunately DNSBL maintainers are stupid enough to let a > single (l)user dictate what they put into their BL. Are you missing a

Re: [SAtalk] qmail+vpopmail suggestion

2003-05-29 Thread cyko
Quoting "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Quoting AltGrendel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >I'm currently using qmail+vpopmail with spamc+spamd to check for spam. As > > of > > >right now, in each of the domains' .qmail-default files in > ~vpopmail/domain, >

Re: [SAtalk] Worried about RBLs

2003-05-29 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, On Wed, 28 May 2003 22:29:04 -0400 "Michael J. Kidd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > I run a server which hosts several sites. I've been using > Spamassassin for a while now, and absolutely love it. I know this may > be slightly off topic, but I figured I'd start here. > > I've

Re: [SAtalk] qmail+vpopmail suggestion

2003-05-29 Thread cyko
Quoting AltGrendel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >I'm currently using qmail+vpopmail with spamc+spamd to check for spam. As > of > >right now, in each of the domains' .qmail-default files in ~vpopmail/domain, > I > >have been manually appending: > > > >| /usr/qmail/sa/usr/bi

RE: [SAtalk] I hate SpamAssassin

2003-05-29 Thread Tony Earnshaw
ons, 28.05.2003 kl. 09.46 skrev Tony Earnshaw: > Is changed in 2.50-CVS, last night's version (wasn't a couple of days > ago.). 2.60-CVS. Tony -- Tony Earnshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: eBay Get office equi

Re: [SAtalk] Worried about RBLs

2003-05-29 Thread listuser
On Wed, 28 May 2003, Michael J. Kidd wrote: > Hi all, > I run a server which hosts several sites. I've been using > Spamassassin for a while now, and absolutely love it. I know this may > be slightly off topic, but I figured I'd start here. > > I've recently noticed a barrage of 'Mailer-dae

RE: [SAtalk] whitelist

2003-05-29 Thread Gary Funck
> > I don't suppose someone out there could tell me how to tell procmail to > simply accept the message and stop processing? > Generally, just deliver it to $DEFAULT. Something like this (towards the beginning of your procmailrc): FROM=`formail -rx To: | sed -e 's/^[ ]*//'` REALLY_FROM=`forma

Re: [SAtalk] qmail+vpopmail suggestion

2003-05-29 Thread AltGrendel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm currently using qmail+vpopmail with spamc+spamd to check for spam. As of right now, in each of the domains' .qmail-default files in ~vpopmail/domain, I have been manually appending: | /usr/qmail/sa/usr/bin/spamc -u [EMAIL PROTECTED] -e /usr/local/vpopmail/bin/vdeliver

[SAtalk] qmail+vpopmail suggestion

2003-05-29 Thread cyko
I'm currently using qmail+vpopmail with spamc+spamd to check for spam. As of right now, in each of the domains' .qmail-default files in ~vpopmail/domain, I have been manually appending: | /usr/qmail/sa/usr/bin/spamc -u [EMAIL PROTECTED] -e /usr/local/vpopmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailb

Re: [SAtalk] whitelist

2003-05-29 Thread Tim Litwiller
Jack Gostl wrote: On Wed, 28 May 2003, Jack Gostl wrote: On Wed, 28 May 2003, Matt Kettler wrote: The whitelists within spamassassin are rules and as such it simply adds -100 to the message score. The way to get an absolute whitelist that aborts processing is the configure procmail, o

[SAtalk] Worried about RBLs

2003-05-29 Thread Michael J. Kidd
Hi all, I run a server which hosts several sites. I've been using Spamassassin for a while now, and absolutely love it. I know this may be slightly off topic, but I figured I'd start here. I've recently noticed a barrage of 'Mailer-daemon' messages in my mail queues. These messages are in r

Re: [SAtalk] whitelist

2003-05-29 Thread Jack Gostl
On Wed, 28 May 2003, Jack Gostl wrote: > On Wed, 28 May 2003, Matt Kettler wrote: > > > The whitelists within spamassassin are rules and as such it simply adds > > -100 to the message score. > > > > The way to get an absolute whitelist that aborts processing is the > > configure procmail, or w

Re: [SAtalk] whitelist

2003-05-29 Thread Jack Gostl
On Wed, 28 May 2003, Matt Kettler wrote: > The whitelists within spamassassin are rules and as such it simply adds > -100 to the message score. > > The way to get an absolute whitelist that aborts processing is the > configure procmail, or whatever other tool you use, to not even call SA in >

Re: [SAtalk] server stops to receive e-mails

2003-05-29 Thread Matt Kettler
Could you begin by describing how you installed spamassassin? What kind of system did you install it on? What MTA are you using? Merely installing from the tarball or CPAN will not insert SA into your mail delivery path. You need to edit procmail configs, install a milter, amavis, mailscanner o

Re: [SAtalk] sharing Bayes DB between relays

2003-05-29 Thread Alan Leghart
--On Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:12 PM -0700 Kelsey Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 01:25:49AM -0700, Kelsey Cummings wrote: On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 09:21:34AM -0400, Adam Denenberg wrote: > I have seen this pop up before but with no real answer. If you have 2 > relay

Re: [SAtalk] spamass-milter and /etc/aliases

2003-05-29 Thread Dan O'Brien
> What I would like to do is to redirect all the spam-tagged mail to > either a local user or to /dev/null. I'm using the envelope milter (http://www.chaos.org.uk/~richard/sw/) to redirect tagged messages to an alternate e-mail address on my Lotus Domino mail server. (Since Domino mail stores a

Re: [SAtalk] whitelist

2003-05-29 Thread Matt Kettler
The whitelists within spamassassin are rules and as such it simply adds -100 to the message score. The way to get an absolute whitelist that aborts processing is the configure procmail, or whatever other tool you use, to not even call SA in the first place. You'll get more performance boost tha

Re: [SAtalk] 2.53 vs 2.55 - how is RBL timeout handled ?

2003-05-29 Thread Simon Byrnand
> >I just upgraded from 2.53 to 2.55. Was there some discussion awhile back > >about 2.55 having a problem with RBL? > > No, > > It's just that by an extremely annoying co-incidence, one of the RBL lists > used by SA (all recent versions) died only a couple of days after 2.55's > release, causing

Re: [SAtalk] 2.53 vs 2.55

2003-05-29 Thread Jack Gostl
On Thu, 29 May 2003, Simon Byrnand wrote: > At 19:40 28/05/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote: > >On Thu, 29 May 2003, Simon Byrnand wrote: > > > > > At 10:40 28/05/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote: > > > > > > >I just upgraded from 2.53 to 2.55. Was there some discussion awhile back > > > >about 2.55 having a

Re: [SAtalk] 2.53 vs 2.55

2003-05-29 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 19:40 28/05/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2003, Simon Byrnand wrote: > At 10:40 28/05/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote: > > >I just upgraded from 2.53 to 2.55. Was there some discussion awhile back > >about 2.55 having a problem with RBL? > > No, > > It's just that by an extremely annoyi

[SAtalk] server stops to receive e-mails

2003-05-29 Thread Paulo Lenz
I stoped to receive e-mails on my mail server.. It was working perfect before.. I think this problem came when I tried to install spamassassin... When I send e-mails from my domain to another domain that is hosted in my server it goes with no problems, but when some one else tries, I dont r

Re: [SAtalk] 2.53 vs 2.55

2003-05-29 Thread Jack Gostl
On Thu, 29 May 2003, Simon Byrnand wrote: > At 10:40 28/05/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote: > > >I just upgraded from 2.53 to 2.55. Was there some discussion awhile back > >about 2.55 having a problem with RBL? > > No, > > It's just that by an extremely annoying co-incidence, one of the RBL lists >

Re: [SAtalk] Cannot open bayes_path R/W: File exists

2003-05-29 Thread Mike Batchelor
--On Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:52 AM +0900 alan premselaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: to make a long story short, what you want to do is setup a cron job that runs sa-learn --rebuild (run this as your defang user) probably once an hour or so. This was suggested by someone on the MIMEDefang list

Re: [SAtalk] 2.53 vs 2.55

2003-05-29 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 10:40 28/05/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote: I just upgraded from 2.53 to 2.55. Was there some discussion awhile back about 2.55 having a problem with RBL? No, It's just that by an extremely annoying co-incidence, one of the RBL lists used by SA (all recent versions) died only a couple of days aft

Re: [SAtalk] Cannot open bayes_path R/W: File exists

2003-05-29 Thread Mike Batchelor
*FLAME ON* --On Tuesday, May 27, 2003 12:39 PM -0700 Kelson Vibber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mike Batchelor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I posted this to the MIMEDefang list, but didn't get a response. Let me try here. Perhaps because people were already discussing the same issue in anot

[SAtalk] whitelist

2003-05-29 Thread Jack Gostl
If something is added to whitelist_from, does it actually reduce processing time or does it simply push the score way down? It would be nice if it didn't eat CPU cycles. -- Jack Gostl [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsore

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin timed out

2003-05-29 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 15:29 28/05/03 +0200, Mark Martinec wrote: From: Simon Byrnand | Unfortunately no, sendmail, at least up to version 8.11.x doesn't have any | inbuilt way to throttle the local delivery rate. | You have: | QueueLA ... MaxDaemonChildren ... ConnectionRateThrottle ... | | None of these address the

Re: [SAtalk] I hate SpamAssassin

2003-05-29 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 19:23 27/05/03 -0400, Christopher M. Iarocci wrote: > On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 04:49:55PM -0500, Ben M. VanWagner wrote: > > What amazes me is that everytime some idiot does this.. everyone agrees > > that the information in the email needs to be changed and then it never is. > > Here's an id

Re: [SAtalk] On filtering out invalid tags, decode %-characters, canoncial input

2003-05-29 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 09:26 27/05/03 +0200, Tony Earnshaw wrote: man, 26.05.2003 kl. 23.37 skrev Simon Byrnand: > >Keep your SA version up to date! What you write above certainly isn't > >the case for SA 2.60-CVS, the rules for which, coupled with Bayes and > >RBL checks, catch even the shortest of base64 and obfusc

Re: [SAtalk] New excuse in need of a rule

2003-05-29 Thread listuser
I saw it in a NANAE post earlier today: "Latest in spam disclaimers" http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=vd9ofpqmhjtc72%40corp.supernews.com&prev=/groups%3Fdq%3D%26num%3D25%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26group%3Dnews.admin.net-abuse.email%26start

Re: [SAtalk] New excuse in need of a rule

2003-05-29 Thread listuser
On Wed, 28 May 2003, Derek C. wrote: > *Ahem* As acting president of the "IMRO" (actually means the International > Mentally Retarded Organization) I bet your organization has a lot of members from the great US state of Florida... :) Justin --

Re: [SAtalk] Best way to process the log?

2003-05-29 Thread Tim Litwiller
Alex, your script currently doesn't do qmail so I modified it to just parsing the spamd logs and redid the part that gets the number of clean and spam messages - that together with mrtg and a few other perl and sh bit an pieces that run in cron is what i use to create this report page. I am

Re: [SAtalk] New excuse in need of a rule

2003-05-29 Thread Derek C.
*Ahem* As acting president of the "IMRO" (actually means the International Mentally Retarded Organization) I have granted all spammers clemency for one month due to the fact that they are obviously incapable of telling right from wrong, up from down, or a good marketing technique from one that

Re: [SAtalk] New excuse in need of a rule

2003-05-29 Thread Matt Kettler
Saw this thread about it on usenet.. not particularly relevant, but shows that this has been around for a little bit. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=8e3e4c1f.0304141212.492870e9%40posting.google.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3D%2522International%2BMessaging%2BRe

Re: [SAtalk] Stop using Bayes(site-wide)

2003-05-29 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 03:20:26PM -0700, Support wrote: > doesn't setting "use_bayes 0" mean "don't enable bayes" yes. > and yes they do come back. hmmm. then I would run with -D and see what it's doing. perhaps it's either not reading that config file for some reason, or there's another

RE: [SAtalk] SPAM

2003-05-29 Thread Harold Hallikainen
It might be pointed out to the ISP that you need to add someone to your whitelist, and ask them how to do it. Another way of handling it, since SpamAssassin only marks mail and doesn't delete it, is to set up filters in your email client to move messages marked SPAM (I like to do it using X-SPAM Le

RE: [SAtalk] Stop using Bayes(site-wide)

2003-05-29 Thread Support
Sorry I meant SA 2.53. doesn't setting "use_bayes 0" mean "don't enable bayes" and yes they do come back. thanx, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Theo Van Dinter Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 1:53 PM To: Support Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[SAtalk] controlling expiry for site-wide bayes dbs

2003-05-29 Thread Justin Mason
BTW, good news for large site-wide bayes dbs: Theo has implemented a way to avoid auto-expiry in 2.60. The plan is that expiry can be disabled by setting bayes_expiry_max_db_size to 0. Then folks who wish to do an expiry from cron, can control this by using a config file which uses e.g. "bayes_

Re: [SAtalk] Spam nstallingassasin

2003-05-29 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, On Wed, 28 May 2003 13:29:26 -0700 "Gary Funck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Bob, > > > -Original Message- > > From: Bob Apthorpe > > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 10:37 AM > > > [...] > > You may want to look into running > > SpamAssassin with MIMEDefang ( http://www.roaringpengui

Re: [SAtalk] Spam nstallingassasin

2003-05-29 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, On Wed, 28 May 2003 16:16:44 -0400 "Shayne Lebrun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > nslookup relays.monkeys.com > > Server: black.MUSKOKA.COM > Address: 216.123.107.2 > > Name:relays.monkeys.com > > Relays.monkeys.com doesn't currently have an IP addy assigned to it, looks > like. Commo

[SAtalk] New excuse in need of a rule

2003-05-29 Thread listuser
Here's a new spammer disclaimer that needs a new home. Justin This e-mail message is considered to be fully legal. The IMRO (International Messaging Regulation Organization) latest regulation says that it is legal to send mass messages one time for month. E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for total remo

Re: [SAtalk] Best way to process the log?

2003-05-29 Thread Alex van den Bogaerdt
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 04:45:16PM +0200, DEFFONTAINES Vincent wrote: > > Alex, > > > > I'd like to help, since no-one answered, you're Dutch ("sniff, sniff > > Nobody loves me") and anyway I've been through the whole gamut of > > learning Postscript and SA, from filter to spampd to amavisd-new.

[SAtalk] Fw: problem with address rewriting ---OOPS, wrong list

2003-05-29 Thread Tom Kinghorn
Sorry all.   its late here..   i posted to the wrong list...   My apologies.   :o$   Tom         - Original Message - From: Tom Kinghorn To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 11:29 PM Subject: problem with address rewriting Hi all.   Please can someone point me in the

Re: [SAtalk] Best way to process the log?

2003-05-29 Thread Alex van den Bogaerdt
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 09:02:22AM -0500, Tom Meunier wrote: > He wants to parse his maillog file to throw away everything but the "processing > message and the "identified spam" lines. Then he can go back and look > at for troubleshooting purposes. He has a feeling that he can't count > o

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange

2003-05-29 Thread Stuart Gall
- Original Message - From: "Stewart, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Stuart Gall'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Per Björklund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 12:09 AM Subject: RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange > > > > I was wonderin

[SAtalk] problem with address rewriting

2003-05-29 Thread Tom Kinghorn
Hi all.   Please can someone point me in the right direction. I have a number of domains going to 1 exchange server.   I have set up address rewriting in the form of a dsearch which works okay.   The problem is that I need to duplicate all users for the primary domain into files of the other

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange

2003-05-29 Thread Stewart, John
> > I was wondering if it could be possible to get sa-learn to > just look at the message text > > and ignore all header information when I feed it with > messages from exchange (since exchange screws everything up). > > > > That way all users on the exchange-system could just > forward their

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange

2003-05-29 Thread Stewart, John
> I think there maybe be problems with the public folder > solution in Exchange 2000. While it appears to work under > Exchange 5.5, in Exchange 2000 it seems that all mail stored > in public folders and accessed through IMAP or POP loses a > lot of its header information, at least in my expe

Re: [SAtalk] Questions about system wide prefs for sa-learn

2003-05-29 Thread Matt Kettler
Well, "system wide prefs for sa-learn" doesn't really make much sense... Except with respect to changing the default bayes DB paths.. Those preferences are set in /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf just like spamassassin itself. see man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf for different things you can put in

Re: [SAtalk] sharing Bayes DB between relays

2003-05-29 Thread Kelsey Cummings
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 01:25:49AM -0700, Kelsey Cummings wrote: > On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 09:21:34AM -0400, Adam Denenberg wrote: > > I have seen this pop up before but with no real answer. If you have 2 > > relay servers with equal MX costs sitting on the perimiter running SA, > > how do you hav

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM

2003-05-29 Thread Stuart Gall
- Original Message - From: "Mike Schrauder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Darren Coleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "SpamA (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 10:14 PM Subject: RE: [SAtalk] SPAM > >From: Darren Coleman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM

2003-05-29 Thread Stuart Gall
- Original Message - From: "Dianne Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:21 PM Subject: [SAtalk] SPAM > You are identifying SPAM mail that is legitimate information from an > important source to me. Please remove it. > > Dianne S. Moore Ph.D.

Re: [SAtalk] 2.53 vs 2.55

2003-05-29 Thread Stuart Gall
> > All I ever get is > > debug: Ran run_rbl_eval_test rule RCVD_IN_NJABL ==> got hit > > debug: Ran run_rbl_eval_test rule RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM ==> got hit > > debug: Ran run_rbl_eval_test rule RCVD_IN_RELAYS_ORDB_ORG ==> got hit > > debug: Ran run_rbl_eval_test rule RCVD_IN_UNCONFI

[SAtalk] RE: [AMaViS-user] amavisd-new-20030314-p2 freakout and SA timeout

2003-05-29 Thread Stewart, John
> Aha... my cron job was not quite right; it was only doing a > --force-expire on the hour when there had been spam/ham > learned. I've set it to do it every hour regardless. > Hopefully then amavisd-new won't cause SA to run an > opportunistic scan. > > We shall see! > > I hope this works,

RE: [SAtalk] Procmail - DROPPRIVS

2003-05-29 Thread Gary Funck
> -Original Message- > From: Jose M. Herrera > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:22 PM > > Why is necesary put DROPPRIVS=yes in /etc/procmailrc ??? > > What is DROPPRIVS for? From "man procmailrc": DROPPRIVS If set to `yes' procmail will drop all privileges it might

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange

2003-05-29 Thread Jack Gostl
On 28 May 2003, Louis Bohm wrote: > Can one of the SA developers please respond to this and give a definit > "Yes it can/No it cannot be done" answer. > > I currently have a mailbox containing 2 SPAM mails that were not > marked as such and about 1000 HAMS marked as spam. Can I really just

Re: [SAtalk] Stop using Bayes(site-wide)

2003-05-29 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 11:26:25AM -0700, Support wrote: > How can I completely stop SA 2.43 from using bayes? You can't, 2.43 doesn't have bayes. Or did you mean 2.53? > use_bayes 0 that's it right there. > however, in user profiles there are bayes files in my ~/.spamassassin/

[SAtalk] with MailMonitor?

2003-05-29 Thread Dana Holland
Has anyone successfully implemented spamassassin with Sopho MailMonitor and Sendmail? -- Dana Holland[EMAIL PROTECTED] 903-875-7355 Navarro CollegeCorsicana, TX http://www.navarrocollege.edu/staff_pages/dana/dana.html **

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange

2003-05-29 Thread Bingham, Ryan
I think there maybe be problems with the public folder solution in Exchange 2000. While it appears to work under Exchange 5.5, in Exchange 2000 it seems that all mail stored in public folders and accessed through IMAP or POP loses a lot of its header information, at least in my experience. I

Re: [SAtalk] Procmail

2003-05-29 Thread Thomas Cameron
From http://web.bilkent.edu.tr/mirrors/Sendmail/www.wolfenet.com/%257Ejhardin/procmail-security.html: Note that the DROPPRIVS at the beginning means the log file must be writable by the recipient. Thomas - Original Message - From: "Jose M.Herrera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTE

RE: [SAtalk] Spam nstallingassasin

2003-05-29 Thread Shayne Lebrun
nslookup relays.monkeys.com Server: black.MUSKOKA.COM Address: 216.123.107.2 Name:relays.monkeys.com Relays.monkeys.com doesn't currently have an IP addy assigned to it, looks like. www.monkeys.com, on the other hand Muskoka.com 115 Manitoba Street Bracebridge, Ontario P1L 2B6 (705)6

RE: [SAtalk] Spam nstallingassasin

2003-05-29 Thread Gary Funck
Hi Bob, Excellent info. thanks. Got a qeustion on MIME defang. I'm thinking of installing it, along with a caching name daemon, in a month/so. But, I'm not sure how to best set things up in our configuration: Internet (ISP) ---> Firewall (Linux/sendmail *internal* relay) > (continued f

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange

2003-05-29 Thread Stuart Gall
- Original Message - From: "Per Björklund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:09 PM Subject: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange > I was wondering if it could be possible to get sa-learn to just look at the message > text > and i

Re: [SAtalk] Strange spamc problem with SA 2.54 and qmail

2003-05-29 Thread Stuart Gall
- Original Message - From: "Ralf Guenthner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:35 PM Subject: [SAtalk] Strange spamc problem with SA 2.54 and qmail > Hello list > > I call spamc via a script called /var/qmail/bin/qmail-queue with the > following

[SAtalk] Questions about system wide prefs for sa-learn

2003-05-29 Thread Miroslav Ris SA of iNet
Hi, stupid questions: how set system wide prefs for sa-learn? I cannot find any help in doc. Thanks iNet WebMail System --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: eBay Get office equipment for less on eBay! http

[SAtalk] Sitewide minus whiners

2003-05-29 Thread Ben M. VanWagner
For those people wanting to implement side wide SA but allow elective removal in an ISP situation you can make a very very simple change to your /etc/procmailrc :0 * ! ? test -f $HOME/.sabypass { :0fw * < 256000 | /usr/bin/spamc -f } then to bypass a user from SA just touch /home/bubba/.saby

Re: [SAtalk] Spam nstallingassasin

2003-05-29 Thread Rick Macdougall
Hi, It has? That's news to my dns... @40003ed514501c91686c rblsmtpd: 200.171.247.234 pid 21909: 553 BLOCKED: See http://www.monkeys.com/upl/listed-ip-0.cgi?ip=200.171.247.234 Regards, Rick Joseph Noonan wrote: On Wed, 28 May 2003 at 12:36pm Bob Apthorpe wrote: *.relays.monkeys.com hav

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange

2003-05-29 Thread Louis Bohm
Can one of the SA developers please respond to this and give a definit "Yes it can/No it cannot be done" answer. I currently have a mailbox containing 2 SPAM mails that were not marked as such and about 1000 HAMS marked as spam. Can I really just pump them into SA with out causing any probl

RE: [SAtalk] I hate SpamAssassin

2003-05-29 Thread Ben M. VanWagner
Stop smoking Crack :-), I was being figurative. I don't literally mean that everyone should send an apology email to every moron in this world. Obviously that would take to long. A simple change once and for all to the SA report that places the blame on the ISP and does not refer them to SA w

[SAtalk] RE: [AMaViS-user] amavisd-new-20030314-p2 freakout and SA timeout

2003-05-29 Thread Stewart, John
> John scrawled: > > One thing I was doing every hour was an sa-learn --rebuild, > > but I wasn't > > doing a --force-expire. I'm going to put that in place to run > > every hour as > > well and perhaps an hourly expire will help things out. We > shall see. > > Well, it apparently has not. >

[SAtalk] Procmail

2003-05-29 Thread Jose M.Herrera
Why is necesary put DROPPRIVS=yes in /etc/procmailrc ??? What is DROPPRIVS for? Thanks -- *.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.* Jose Miguel Herrera M. - User #246070 counter.li.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Est.Ing.Civil Informatica - UTFSM Servicios Centrales - Depto.I

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM

2003-05-29 Thread Evan Platt
At 11:21 AM 05/28/2003, Dianne Moore wrote: You are identifying SPAM mail that is legitimate information from an important source to me. Please remove it. Dianne S. Moore Ph.D., R.N.,C.N.M.,M.N.,M.P.H. Director of Nursing Fresno City College 1101 East University Ave Department of Nursing Fresno C

RE: [SAtalk] SPAM

2003-05-29 Thread Mike Schrauder
>From: Darren Coleman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:45 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: [SAtalk] SPAM >The one thing I don't understand about emails like these, is that if the >person is intelligent enough to find the mailinglist address to email - >how is it

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn on messages from outlook/exchange

2003-05-29 Thread Stewart, John
> Please correct me if I am wrong. But I thought I saw a > posting a while > back (when 2.50 came out) that doing what you are doing would > shift the > balance of the Bayes DB toward one side or another. I > remember someone > clearly stating that you need an equal amount of SPAM and HAM to

RE: [SAtalk] Qmail integration problem.

2003-05-29 Thread Tyler Hardison
> I just kept adding zeroes one at a time 'til it worked... and > I had to > go that high on the system I'm using it on. Maybe I've got > some other > weird bug going on. > MEEP! You've just multiplied memory usage by a factor of ten for each zero. A softlimit of 400 - 600 is us

RE: [SAtalk] Multiple postings!

2003-05-29 Thread Brian K. West
I had this happen once.. it was spamd messin up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evan Platt Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 1:09 PM To: Jim Ford; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Multiple postings! At 09:43 AM 05/28/2003, you wrote: >

RE: [SAtalk] SPAM

2003-05-29 Thread William Stearns
Good afternoon, Chris, On Wed, 28 May 2003, Chris Santerre wrote: > I don't know what's funnier. The fact that we keep getting these posts, or > the sig quote you responded with to Diane! :) Ouch! I have a random sig generator at http://www.stearns.org/randomsig/ . I usually try to fi

RE: [SAtalk] Spam nstallingassasin

2003-05-29 Thread Joseph Noonan
On Wed, 28 May 2003 at 12:36pm Bob Apthorpe wrote: > > Also, consider rejecting mail from sites listed on certain > DNSBLs (opm.blitzed.org, proxies.relays.monkeys.com, *.relays.monkeys.com have been down for some time now. -- Joseph F. Noonan Rigaku/MSC Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --

RE: [SAtalk] SPAM

2003-05-29 Thread Darren Coleman
Dianne,   You need to speak to your email provider – your ISP or hosting provider – they are the ones who are filtering your email using the SpamAssassin software.  No one on this mailing list has any direct authority, influence or control over your email and how it is handled.   Kind

RE: [SAtalk] Strange spamc problem with SA 2.54 and qmail

2003-05-29 Thread Gary Funck
Ralf, Did you see my recent thread titled "Some observations on doing more with less"? I ran some tests trying different cut off points. I think it's possible that 1 will work for you, but you need to send the first and the last parts of the message off to spamc, rather than just the first part

RE: [SAtalk] SPAM

2003-05-29 Thread Darren Coleman
The one thing I don’t understand about emails like these, is that if the person is intelligent enough to find the mailinglist address to email – how is it that they don’t realise that SA isn’t an all-encompassing filter for the Worlds email?   Daz     -Original Message- From

RE: [SAtalk] SPAM

2003-05-29 Thread Chris Santerre
I don't know what's funnier. The fact that we keep getting these posts, or the sig quote you responded with to Diane! :) > -Original Message- > From: William Stearns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 2:29 PM > To: Dianne Moore; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: ML-spamassassi

[SAtalk] Stop using Bayes(site-wide)

2003-05-29 Thread Support
Hi, How can I completely stop SA 2.43 from using bayes? my /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf has this. - # Enable the Bayes system use_bayes 0 # Enable Bayes auto-learning auto_learn 0 # Enable or disable network checks skip_rbl_checks

Re: [SAtalk] SPAM

2003-05-29 Thread William Stearns
Good afternoon, Diane, On Wed, 28 May 2003, Dianne Moore wrote: > You are identifying SPAM mail that is legitimate information from an > important source to me. Please remove it. We can't. Your ISP (I assume that's scccd.com) installed the spamassassin program on their mail server. Yo

Re: [SAtalk] 2.53 vs 2.55

2003-05-29 Thread Jack Gostl
On Wed, 28 May 2003, Stuart Gall wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Jack Gostl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "SpamAssassin listserve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 5:40 PM > Subject: [SAtalk] 2.53 vs 2.55 > > > > > > I just upgraded from 2.53 to 2.55. Was there s

[SAtalk] SPAM

2003-05-29 Thread Dianne Moore
You are identifying SPAM mail that is legitimate information from an important source to me. Please remove it.   Dianne S. Moore Ph.D., R.N.,C.N.M.,M.N.,M.P.H. Director of Nursing Fresno City College 1101 East University Ave Department of Nursing Fresno CA 93741 559 244 2685 office 559 244 26

Re: [SAtalk] Multiple postings!

2003-05-29 Thread Evan Platt
At 09:43 AM 05/28/2003, you wrote: Hi, I'm getting multiple postings on this list - some of them as much as 13 duplicates! Regards: Jim Ford P.S. Is thsi sort of thing regarded as 'spam'? Only one I see is from Sergei Genchev, sent twice, 09:13 and 09:15. My guess is it was a accidental resend.

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