Stefan Fredriksson wrote:
> Hi
>
> something weird happens when I use spamassassin.
> It seems to cut of the first "F" wich makes ofcourse the mailfile
> corrupt.
> Below is the output of my mailfile when I sent myself 2 simple message
> with the subjects "test" and "test 2", no body.
I was al
Hi
something weird happens when I use spamassassin.
It seems to cut of the first "F" wich makes ofcourse the mailfile corrupt.
Below is the output of my mailfile when I sent myself 2 simple message
with the subjects "test" and "test 2", no body.
[stefan@mattestugan stefan]$ more /var/spool/mai
On Tuesday 26 March 2002 03:56 pm, Shane Hird wrote:
> Is there a way to check the font size of a HTML message?
This rule will find any font tags with a positive size of 3 or more:
rawbody BIG_FONT /<\s*FONT\s[^>]*size\s*=\s*['\"]?\s*\+?(?:[3456789]|\d{2,})/i
describe BIG_FONT A font size
Hi, I’m floating a small project idea to see what your
thoughts are:
Ease User Tweaks:
I would like to enable users of Spamassassin to tweak their
own white/black lists (to start with probably could do more than this). I’m
thinking of a web interface for this purpose (probably a PH
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 10:31:00PM -0600, dman wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 04:25:42AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> | [please keep cc'ing me on replies]
> |
> | also sprach Duncan Findlay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.03.26.2358 +0100]:
> | > Report a Debian bug or a bugzilla bug (http://bugzi
On Tuesday 26 March 2002 08:47 pm, dman wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 01:31:28PM -0800, Matthew Cline wrote:
> | MAPS (Mail Abuse Prevention System) has been sued by several spammers,
> | for defemation/libel and restraint of trade (or something like that); see
> | http://mail-abuse.org/in-th
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 01:31:28PM -0800, Matthew Cline wrote:
| On Tuesday 26 March 2002 08:55 am, Jason Kohles wrote:
| > On Tue, 2002-03-26 at 10:18, Smith, Rick wrote:
| > > How long do you think it will be until users of SA face the same
| > > consequences as the now infamous ORBZ case ?
| >
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 10:54:47PM -0500, Duncan Findlay wrote:
| On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 02:48:27PM +1100, Daniel Pittman wrote:
| > On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Jason Haar wrote:
| > > We have this situation here in New Zealand. Some ISPs have different
| > > service options - the cheapest option redir
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 04:25:42AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
| [please keep cc'ing me on replies]
|
| also sprach Duncan Findlay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.03.26.2358 +0100]:
| > Report a Debian bug or a bugzilla bug (http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org),
| > and I'll definitely look into it. Ple
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 02:48:27PM +1100, Daniel Pittman wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Jason Haar wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 01:00:05PM +1100, Daniel Pittman wrote:
> >> Right up to the point that someone institutes the architecture for
> >> secure mail relay that the combination of TLS an
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, martin f. krafft wrote:
> [please keep cc'ing me on replies]
>
> also sprach Duncan Findlay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.03.26.2358 +0100]:
>> Report a Debian bug or a bugzilla bug
>> (http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org), and I'll definitely look into it.
>> Please be sure to inc
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Jason Haar wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 01:00:05PM +1100, Daniel Pittman wrote:
>> Right up to the point that someone institutes the architecture for
>> secure mail relay that the combination of TLS and certificate
>> verification provide -- /that/ can't be transparently p
[please keep cc'ing me on replies]
also sprach Duncan Findlay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.03.26.2358 +0100]:
> Report a Debian bug or a bugzilla bug (http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org),
> and I'll definitely look into it. Please be sure to include the version of
> Razor you are using.
yeeehaa, razo
> As long as you're inside it you're a target
I am not sure I understand what you mean.
I am in Thailand, if I hosted such a list here, saying monsterhut is a
big bad spammer boy, they would have hard time to sue me I beleive.
That sysadmin around the world want to take my words for it is anoth
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 01:00:05PM +1100, Daniel Pittman wrote:
> Right up to the point that someone institutes the architecture for
> secure mail relay that the combination of TLS and certificate
> verification provide -- /that/ can't be transparently proxied...
Ahhh - but they wouldn't be allow
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 the voices made Olivier Nicole write:
> My idea is: "whatever the way we make it" should be better to make it
> outside of western world, so less sensitive to legal attacks, and fUck
> the legal warnings, we *know* those ppl *are* spammers.
As long as you're inside it you're
Tony,
> Make it a list on the web where a limited group of people can add these
> domains, and then let the person downloading/using the software chose if they
> want a select few or all of the domains... That way you can have the legal
> stuff saying that maybe that domain isn't bad, and let th
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 03:26:35AM +0100, Tony L. Svanstrom wrote:
> Make it a list on the web where a limited group of people can add these
> domains, and then let the person downloading/using the software chose if they
> want a select few or all of the domains... That way you can have the legal
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 the voices made Olivier Nicole write:
> >So theroetically spammers *could* sue SA if they are specifically listed in
> >SA rules. For instance, MonsterHut.com could sue us for defemation and/or
> >restraint of trade, and since, ulike MAPS, we have no legal defence fund,
>
> S
>So theroetically spammers *could* sue SA if they are specifically listed in
>SA rules. For instance, MonsterHut.com could sue us for defemation and/or
>restraint of trade, and since, ulike MAPS, we have no legal defence fund,
Should SA set-up a secondary server (outside of western world) for
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Olivier Nicole wrote:
>>unless all ISPs are "well-behaved" and block outbound
>>port 25 except to their own mail servers
>
> provided they have a decent architecture (that can handle the hundred
> thousand, or million email they send per day) they will end up with
> transpar
On 26 Mar 2002 the voices made Craig Hughes write:
> < msg egrep '^From: ' | spamassassin -W
>
> or some such. That'll submit just the address from the From: line. You
> can of course adapt as required to extract other addresses...
True, there are ways of doing it (heck, I could ever write a
On Tuesday 26 March 2002 05:20 pm, Marc MERLIN wrote:
> I'm confused about this
>
> Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.243])
> by mail.vasoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian))
> id 16q0IX-0007Fw-00
> for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002
I'm confused about this
Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net ([207.69.200.243])
by mail.vasoftware.com with esmtp (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian))
id 16q0IX-0007Fw-00
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 15:24:13 -0800
Received: from sdn-ar-001casfrmp092.dialsprin
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 05:15:14PM -0800, Craig Hughes wrote:
> A way better solution to this is to fix bug #18/#130; then the report if
> added to the body would be a MIME part and wouldn't clobber anything.
Would be nice, but I think I still have users who want the body optionally
not to be a
A way better solution to this is to fix bug #18/#130; then the report if
added to the body would be a MIME part and wouldn't clobber anything.
On Tue, 2002-03-26 at 17:01, Marc MERLIN wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm currently evaluating spamassassin (which may actually end up on
> sourceforge.net
>unless all ISPs are "well-behaved" and block outbound
>port 25 except to their own mail servers
provided they have a decent architecture (that can handle the hundred
thousand, or million email they send per day) they will end up with
transparent redirection, the way they have transparent proxy
Hi,
I'm currently evaluating spamassassin (which may actually end up on
sourceforge.net if the server can spare the extra resources to scan all
inbound mail), and I have a user request which makes sense:
Could we have a tri flag to control whether spamassassin adds info on why
it f
Not to mention that the minute a spammer has the cojones to appear in
court to sue anyone for blocking their spam, you can just slap them with
a counter-suit for illegally using your computing resources. IF you
read through the DMCA I bet you can even find ways of getting them sent
to jail for 20
I believe that many people are looking at this in the wrong way...perhaps an
analogy would help:
We all sue Microsoft because of the Melissa virus, because
the virus was propagated through holes in their software.
Anyone want to guess whether or not this would fly?
ISP's,
< msg egrep '^From: ' | spamassassin -W
or some such. That'll submit just the address from the From: line. You
can of course adapt as required to extract other addresses...
C
On Tue, 2002-03-26 at 16:43, Tony L. Svanstrom wrote:
> Ok, I installed it... tried it... read a file or two... made
On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Rick Smith wrote:
> How long do you think it will be until users of SA face the same
> consequences as the now infamous ORBZ case ?
>
> I'm sure that some lawyer out there could find a way to sue someone
> for running this package.
Absolutely. The American legal systems seem
Ok, I installed it... tried it... read a file or two... made it work... a cpl
100 of caught spam later I did some finetuning... and I've been monitoring the
whole thing all the time (mostly because I never seem to be able to leave my
.procmailrc alone)...
Next step is of course to get on this li
> Although you didn't remove them from the subject line, which has caused a
> problem with the web based e-mail archive on sourceforge. It seems you can
> place any arbitrary html code in the subject line and it doesn't get
> cleaned, yet another cross-site scripting bug. This should be submitted
On Tuesday 26 March 2002 03:56 pm, Shane Hird wrote:
> I agree that IFrames are used in nothing but spam or viruses, at least in
> my experience. Also, I recently submitted a sighting to the sightings list
> which I was quite surprised got let through. 'Stick your tongue in my ass',
> 'big breast
Moving this to spamassassin-devel, please take spamassassin-talk out of
the To/Cc if you followup...
I agree on not closing bugs -- looks like maybe Charlie did that one by
accident? As far as verified, sure go ahead and use it -- but normally
if I'm going to all the trouble of verifying somethi
Hey, if anyone sues, I'll just say it's Justin's fault, and they can try
and track him down wherever he is in Asia...
C
On Tue, 2002-03-26 at 13:31, Matthew Cline wrote:
> On Tuesday 26 March 2002 08:55 am, Jason Kohles wrote:
> > On Tue, 2002-03-26 at 10:18, Smith, Rick wrote:
> > > How long do
>
> iframe src=cid:A6ed42Wd7M65W7171 height=0 width=0>
> /iframe>
>
>
> (initial <'s removed just in case someone's email client tries to execute
this)
Although you didn't remove them from the subject line, which has caused a
problem with the web based e-mail archive on sourceforge. It seems
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 01:31:28PM -0800, Matthew Cline wrote:
> However, if a bunch of spammers co-operated, each of them could file a
> seperate suit against SA in different jurisdictions, and more spammers could
> bring up suits when the old ones were thrown out; you can use anyone for
> any
On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Morrison, Trevor (Trevor) wrote:
> HI,
>
> I have successfully setup spamassassin to work on my PC running RH 7.1
> with a 2.4.17 modular kernel running Sendmail-8.11. The program is run
> out of my home directory where I installed it. My question is I have a
> .forward f
Report a Debian bug or a bugzilla bug (http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org),
and I'll definitely look into it. Please be sure to include the version of
Razor you are using.
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 12:59:41PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> to test this, i saved two spam messages, one with spamassass
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 05:51:23PM -0500, Duncan Findlay wrote:
> But perhaps, that's just because I used to do a bit of work in the Mozilla
> Bugzilla, where nothing is (ever?) closed.
And few things are ever RESOLVED...
(See http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55690 for example.)
Dan.
Title: .forward file
HI,
I have successfully setup spamassassin to work on my PC running RH 7.1 with a 2.4.17 modular kernel running Sendmail-8.11. The program is run out of my home directory where I installed it. My question is I have a .forward file to send my mail to work and I find th
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 03:19:22AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=123
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed:
>
>What|Removed |Added
>
> Almost certainly a virus. "src=cid:whatever"; references an
> attachment in the
> same message. Since an creates a single frame, if this wasn't a
> virus, it would just be like putting the attachment into the main
> part of the
> message; in other words, identical to doing things the normal w
Michael Moncur wrote:
> Since you're having trouble with spamassassin -t on the command line, the main
> problem isn't with .procmailrc or .forward or anything like that.
>
> My guess: SpamAssassin is running but isn't scoring the message at all, so
> perhaps it can't find the rules files? Are t
On Tuesday 26 March 2002 10:06 am, Michael Moncur wrote:
> I just received an message and noticed something - the new
> RELAYING_FRAME rule catches it, but it's still not enough to mark this
> message as spam:
>
>
> iframe src=cid:A6ed42Wd7M65W7171 height=0 width=0>
> /iframe>
>
Almost cert
On Tuesday 26 March 2002 08:55 am, Jason Kohles wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-03-26 at 10:18, Smith, Rick wrote:
> > How long do you think it will be until users of SA face the same
> > consequences as the now infamous ORBZ case ?
> >
> > I'm sure that some lawyer out there could find a way to sue someone
I'm currently building a solution to forward the
spam to another server for our subscribers to later check if they so wish. So in
doing this I set defang_mime 0 so that the email would make it to the spam
server still in its original format other than the changed subject and the spam
print o
On Tuesday 26 March 2002 11:25 am, Nick Fisher wrote:
> I think I'll call my first child Cthulhu...
Heh. According to the Kabalistic baby name service
(http://www.kabalarians.com/male/cthulhu.htm) a male named Cthulhu has the
following attributes:
As Cthulhu, you have a natural interest in th
> Actually, I did not. I changed it now so it is all on one line but that
> didnt help either.
> Also, my .procmailrc was called .procmmailrc. That is fixed also now but
> still the same spam.out output.
Since you're having trouble with spamassassin -t on the command line, the main
problem isn't
Tony L. Svanstrom wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 the voices made Stefan Fredriksson write:
>
>>| /home/stefan/bin/SpamAssassin/spamassassin -P -c
>>/home/stefan/bin/SpamAssassin/rules
>>
> You do have that on a single line, right?
Actually, I did not. I changed it now so it is all on one line but
"Tony L. Svanstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 the voices made Stefan Fredriksson write:
>
> > | /home/stefan/bin/SpamAssassin/spamassassin -P -c
> > /home/stefan/bin/SpamAssassin/rules
Just for the record, the doc has it on two lines. So folks who cut
and paste end up w
On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 the voices made Stefan Fredriksson write:
> | /home/stefan/bin/SpamAssassin/spamassassin -P -c
> /home/stefan/bin/SpamAssassin/rules
You do have that on a single line, right?
/Tony
--
Per scientiam ad libertatem. ©1999-2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- Random URL (1/10):
h
Stefan Fredriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> | /home/stefan/bin/SpamAssassin/spamassassin -P -c
> /home/stefan/bin/SpamAssassin/rules
This needs to be all one line.
rw2
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Hi,
Im as sick as anyone else on the numbers of spam I get but I cant seem
to get SpamAssassin to work.
I have created a .forward file in my homedirectory:
- -
[stefan@mattestugan stefan]$ more .forward
"|IFS=' ' exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #stefan"
- -
I have fixed a .procmail in my
Craig Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What kind of sicko would name their daughter Lolita?
Maybe the daughter was conceived in zip code 77971?
--
Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors!
A Smith & Wesson beats four aces.
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On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 02:20:34PM -0500, Nick Fisher wrote:
> I'm guessing there was a film where some underage femail called Lolita
> err yunno... and the name then stuck for the genre.
Before it was a Stanley Kubrick movie, "Lolita" was (and still is) a book
by Vladimir Nabokov:
> I'm still not sure why it's used. I'm
> guessing there was a film where some underage femail called Lolita
> err yunno... and the name then stuck for the genre.
Yup, a film or two and originally a book:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0679723161
Oh, and an obscure rock music ref
Lolita is the title of a book by Vladimir Nabokov, about the desires of
a middle aged man, and the beauty and innocence of youth. Stanley
Kubrick made it into a quite decent movie in 1962, with James Mason
starring as Humbert Humbert.
It was re-made with Jeremy Irons and Melanie Griffith in 1997
Ok, spamassassin-devel now exists and is ready for subscriptions. I've
changed bugzilla to send all its stuff to that list instead of this
one. The -devel list *is not* currently subscribed to -talk, so please
subscribe to both.
spamassassin-devel will prepend [SAdev] to your subjects, for you
I think I'll call my first child Cthulhu...
><>
> -Original Message-
> From: Rodent of Unusual Size [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 2:25 PM
> To: Craig Hughes
> Cc: Nick Fisher; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Lolitas rule.
>
>
> Craig H
> > one I know ever uses the word lolita. The last time I heard
> that word being
> > used not in relation to porn was when I had a friend called
> Lolita (Some 15
> > years ago now). As far as I can think of Lolita is only ever
> used as a porn
>
> What kind of sicko would name their daughter Lol
Craig Hughes wrote:
>
> What kind of sicko would name their daughter Lolita?
Someone ignorant of the significance. Maybe a non-computer-user?
Hey, I knew someone who was thinking of naming her daughter Kali
just because she thought it sounded nice. :-O
--
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Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagw
The idea of bugzilla #46 is to do something more sensible with the PORN
rules. Particularly PORN3 which has all kinds of definitely-spammy and
very-unspammy phrases mixed in. PORN3 might trigger innocently on words
like "asian", "wild", "live", etc. The idea is to possibly do something
like spa
On Tue, 2002-03-26 at 11:05, Nick Fisher wrote:
> one I know ever uses the word lolita. The last time I heard that word being
> used not in relation to porn was when I had a friend called Lolita (Some 15
> years ago now). As far as I can think of Lolita is only ever used as a porn
What kind of si
I'm not 100% on how the SA rules work so please excuse any stupid remarks
here...
I have read #46 to try and not repeat anything already said...
If lolita was part of the PORN3 rule then it would contribute to the
triggering of that rule and thus incur the score of the PORN3 on the message
being f
http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133
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Note that with this and all other rule changes since the 2.11 release, I
have not re-run the GA to update the scores. So modified rules in CVS
hold the scores those rules used to have, and new rules get a scores of
1.0 (most of the time). They have not been rebalanced by the GA, and so
are likel
http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=127
--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-03-26 10:45 ---
I'm not sure what you mean. I have customers who use formmail on their web
sites that are hosted with us and want to be able to send the resulting output
to
Hi All,
Are there any options i should set for a High Volume Mailserver to get
spamassassin/spamproxyd properly working (without being a resource-hog).
I saw something about disabling SUBJ_ALL_CAPS ...
Any help would be welcome.
BTW: got it running like a charm on my 'home' mailserver ;-)
But I
http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=127
--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-03-26 10:42 ---
Subject: Re: [SAtalk] BUGGY_CGI score too high?
Have you ever received a legitimate BUGGY_CGI message?
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Maybe better would be to include "lolita" in the re-worked PORN3 rule.
(bugzilla #46)
C
On Tue, 2002-03-26 at 08:10, Nick Fisher wrote:
> I don't know about anyone else but the only time the word "Lolita(s)" is
> used in my mail it's spam. I noticed this because some lolita spam has been
> getti
That might be a good way to go. I still think that sometimes what
-devel talks about *is* relevant to -users
C
On Tue, 2002-03-26 at 07:07, Bart Schaefer wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Charlie Watts wrote:
>
> > I don't mind the user+developer mix, but I think spamassassin-bugzilla
> > would be
http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=128
--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-03-26 10:32 ---
Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Spam cache?
Best place to ask about how long till razord is on the razor-users
mailing list :) Sorry Vipul
C
--- You are re
Well, the problem is precisely that it's *not* easy to mix and match.
There's a lot of overlap in subject matter. For example, imagine some
non-developer posts a feature request to bugzilla. Now, that might want
to trigger a discussion on -talk, then once some agreement on wanting
the feature h
Ok, I created [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- but it says it'll take
6-24 hours to be created. I'll redirect bugzilla postings there once it
exists.
C
On Tue, 2002-03-26 at 03:07, Matt Sergeant wrote:
> Matthew Cline wrote:
> > Seems like most of the traffic on this list is for developers and advanced
>
Yeah, I do -- but I'm reluctant to do it. Maybe we can try it out for a
little while, and revert if my fears turn out to be correct. I'll set
it up now.
C
On Tue, 2002-03-26 at 03:07, Matt Sergeant wrote:
> Matthew Cline wrote:
> > Seems like most of the traffic on this list is for developers
http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=136
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http://orbz.org has an announcement and link to http://dsbl.org which is
a new service that should not be so subject to lawsuits and injunctions.
It's a neat and simple idea, and you can see the details there.
-- sidney
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On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 the voices made rODbegbie write:
> http://dsbl.org/
>
> Seems riskier (asking *other* people to exploit open relays), and more open
> to abuse (It's now trivial to blacklist you ISP's SMTP server!). I'm not
> too impressed.
That system is useless; actually, it's more than u
I just received an message and noticed something - the new
RELAYING_FRAME rule catches it, but it's still not enough to mark this message
as spam:
iframe src=cid:A6ed42Wd7M65W7171 height=0 width=0>
/iframe>
(initial <'s removed just in case someone's email client tries to execute this)
I d
http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=128
--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-03-26 10:06 ---
Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Spam cache?
Well, you're going to have to use razor to calculate the message hash
anyway, why not use razor as the cache too?
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http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=127
--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-03-26 09:42 ---
Ok, so 1.9 isn't secure either, but I still don't see how this alone should be
enough to flag something as spam.
Dan.
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On Tue, 26 Mar 2002 the voices made Rose, Bobby write:
> It wasn't attacks. My understanding was that the city was running
> unpatched version of Notes or something and the rigorous relay testing
> caused mail to loop within their system and they took it as an attack.
> Since Thursday, after the
It wasn't attacks. My understanding was that the city was running
unpatched version of Notes or something and the rigorous relay testing
caused mail to loop within their system and they took it as an attack.
Since Thursday, after they got multiple messages from sysadmins and
isps, they dropped th
Bill Becker wrote:
>
>On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Theo Van Dinter wrote:
>
>>Personally, I'm wondering when/if spammers have sued their ISPs for
>>having an AUP that disallows spam.
>>
>
>They could do that only with an inept ISP. Most US ISP agreements will
>say somewhere that either party can termina
On Tue, 2002-03-26 at 10:18, Smith, Rick wrote:
>
> How long do you think it will be until users of SA face the same
> consequences as the now infamous ORBZ case ?
>
> I'm sure that some lawyer out there could find a way to sue someone for
> running this package.
>
The problem with ORBZ didn't
On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Theo Van Dinter wrote:
> Personally, I'm wondering when/if spammers have sued their ISPs for
> having an AUP that disallows spam.
They could do that only with an inept ISP. Most US ISP agreements will
say somewhere that either party can terminate the agreement at any time
On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Smith, Rick wrote:
> How long do you think it will be until users of SA face the same
> consequences as the now infamous ORBZ case ?
Forever, plus one day.
>
> I'm sure that some lawyer out there could find a way to sue someone for
> running this package.
>
>
> __
There is no freedom of speech issue here. Freedom of speech issues arise
only when the government or an agent of the government is the party
attempting to prevent the speech from occurring. Since ISPs are private
entities, they can refuse to accept email from anyone for any reason or for
no
I don't know about anyone else but the only time the word "Lolita(s)" is
used in my mail it's spam. I noticed this because some lolita spam has been
getting through SA with a score of 1 or 2. I say let's give lolita it's own
little high scoring rule.
Nick
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I thought the ORBZ author was sued due to his "attacks" on a mailserver
run by the City, and not so much because his service contained blacklists?
That's what I gleaned from
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/24544.html anyway.
Kenneth
On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Smith, Rick wrote:
>
> How long d
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 10:42:53AM -0500, Theo Van Dinter wrote:
> Let them sue me all they want. By filtering my mail, I'm not infringing on
> your right for free speech. You've spoken by sending me the mail. Based on
> the content, I've chosen not to listen to you and filter your mail out of
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 03:18:22PM -, Smith, Rick wrote:
> How long do you think it will be until users of SA face the same
> consequences as the now infamous ORBZ case ?
>
> I'm sure that some lawyer out there could find a way to sue someone for
> running this package.
Let them sue me all t
How long do you think it will be until users of SA face the same
consequences as the now infamous ORBZ case ?
I'm sure that some lawyer out there could find a way to sue someone for
running this package.
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On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Charlie Watts wrote:
> I don't mind the user+developer mix, but I think spamassassin-bugzilla
> would be a better place to send Bugzilla comments.
I've been procmailing the bugzilla messages off into another folder.
> But heck - if it's going to split, why not make three? E
http://www.hughes-family.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=128
--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-03-26 07:05 ---
While I agree that razor would do this, how long will it be before razord is
released? I've been waiting since December, but for all I know, it could be out
I think the idea is a good one, particularly with the bugzilla comments.
I for one though would hope that you and others continue to post new rules
and rule changes/enhancements to the user list...
Ed Kasky
Los Angeles, CA
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