[issues] NOW article on girl geeks

2001-03-04 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
Haven't seen anything here on issues in a while, so I thought I'd post this link. http://63.111.42.146/cyf/yf_article.asp?ArticleID=7552 The article features/is a discussion between Maura (of maura.com) and Christine (of maganda.org) about women on the web. I don't know who these 2 people are,

[issues] interesting book, gender identity disorder

2000-11-22 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
Just got done with my Thanksgiving week reading for my Gay and Lesbian Studies class. It was a wonderful book by Daphne Scholinski, "The Last Time I Wore a Dress." It's an autobiography chronicling her time spent in mental institutions diagnosed with Gender Identity Disorder (as well as family i

[issues] names [was: Anyone know any more about this study?]

2000-08-08 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> You'd think having a (female) friend named vinnie would cure you of > this automatic gender assignation I have been working with a woman in the extended degree program named "chris". I know she's a woman because I've seen her and dealt with her for a while, but I can ONLY imagine how unnerving

Re: [issues] women in computing article

2000-04-13 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> By "mechanics of information technology" I suspect they mean hardware. I'm not so sure... wouldn't saying "mechanics of information technology and hardware" be redundant, then? > I only understand hardware at a vague, theoretical level. While it's > useful to understand what the hardware is

[issues] women in computing article

2000-04-13 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
http://www.cnn.com/2000/TECH/computing/04/11/girls.computer/index.html I'm not sure where my husband got this article, but he sent it my way... Apparently an AAUW (American Association of University Women) report indicates that the way programming/computer-oriented courses are taught is creatin

Re: [issues] Does Jane Compute

2000-04-07 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
With girls, I think it is more even between father and mother, though personally I have found it leans toward the father. I have a great relationship with my father, he likes to tinker with things and understand how they work. When he started college in the mid 1970s, he started in computers... u

Re: [issues] Slashdot article - last question

2000-03-27 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
I agree with that statement. The comments (at least as of earlier today) were pretty one-sided... in general, people (or as "people" as slashdot comments get) seem to perceive linuxchix as a bunch of women sitting around bitching about men and talking about how we want to be separate. I don't kno

Re: [issues] Politically correct (was: Mm? Quotas?)

2000-02-11 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> I'd like just geek. > > A chick is a bird. > Oh, well. I don't really mind. If the thought counts, then the Window Maker > team is trying and I like that. The home of these lists is after all 'linuxchix' :o) I think the WindowMaker team's intentions are good, it's great that they decided to m

Re: [issues] Mm? Quotas?

2000-02-10 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
Hmm, I don't think that's quotas... I think it's a good thing (tm). As Skud said in her article and on this list, one of the best steps to take is to just plain say "you're welcome, come work on our development team". Maybe it's because I'm not seeing it all (goes to windowmaker.org), but I don't

Re: [issues] Patents (was: RMS boycott of Amazon)

1999-12-18 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> We don't want to prevent people from legitimately solving the > problem themselves. But we want /our/ way of doing it protected, > at least until we've got the reasonable reward for our labout. > (yeah, 'our'. I count chewing it over with him while theoretically > watching 'Buffy' to be work.) >

Re: [issues] Patents (was: RMS boycott of Amazon)

1999-12-18 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
Robert Kiesling wrote: > > Could a person receive a federal grant if they were also in a > publicly funded university, free or not? Yes, students can receive federal grants for developing... it's independent of stature as a student (applying as an *individual* rather than a part of a *corporat

Re: [issues] Patents (was: RMS boycott of Amazon)

1999-12-18 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> The same thing I'd do if I was a struggling college student who is > developing an OS that has a chance to be in demand: release it as free > software, and if it's as great as I think it is, I'll have no trouble > getting a high paying job doing what I want to (at a secretive chip > startup, per

Re: [issues] Fwd: RMS says "Boycott Amazon"

1999-12-14 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
It has been said in the slashdot thread that amazon might not allow such comments in the author comments section, and/or RMS hasn't bothered doing it to all of his own books that are listed there (and there are quite a few). Personally, I don't think it's worth it to boycott amazon... but rather

Re: [issues] Prototype vs. design

1999-12-06 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
It's a pretty huge part of our EECS (http://www.eecs.wsu.edu) program. A whole 300 level undergraduate course devoted to it (one you would probably take in your third or fourth semester in the program), and those concepts are used throughout your undergrad "career" fairly extensively. (especially

Re: [issues] Linux Mag: 50 Linux People to Watch

1999-11-29 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
whew... guess I was just thinking big ;o) -nicole > > Still, 49 men and 1 woman is pretty off balance... > > > > I don't know the percentage of women in the linux world, but I'd bet > > it's more than 2%. > > I think at the last survey it was actually about 1%. Still, some of us are > doing our

Re: [issues] Linux Mag: 50 Linux People to Watch

1999-11-29 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
Still, 49 men and 1 woman is pretty off balance... I don't know the percentage of women in the linux world, but I'd bet it's more than 2%. -nicole Robert Kiesling wrote: > > Nope, sorry. > > Andrea Archangeli is listed there with all of the guys. She's > the architect behind the 2.2 kernel'

Re: [issues] Re: (null)

1999-11-10 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> Hmm. good point. And both of those are things that everyone wants to > brutally bludgeon to death with a very blunt instrument. > > -Ian (could actually tolerate an Office "assistant" if it was Cartman) Bob had a cute logo (I still have a microsoft bob hat somewhere around here) but that was a

Re: [issues] Re:Ofc2K (was: micros~1 and apple)

1999-11-09 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
J B wrote: > > Those chevrons and expandable menus are supposed to adapt to keep the most > commonly used items available. If you do not like it...you can disable it > from preferences. But if you notice, use on item that is not on the main > menu (under the chevrons), and the rest of the dropdo

Re: micros~1 and apple (was Re: [issues] MS/DOJ ruling)

1999-11-08 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> the whole thing wasn't resolved until two years ago when micros~1 invested > $150 million in apple and committed to developing over the next 5 years as > many releases of office for mac as for windows, in exchange for which apple > agreed to make explorer the default browser installed with MacOS

Re: [issues] MS/DOJ ruling

1999-11-08 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
lots of snippage in here... > > It's cobbled together from pieces they bought and modified, or outright > > copied. > > Welcome to the commercial version of opensource :) Last I checked, open source people don't rip off others' code, stick it in their own product, and charge out the ass for it

Re: [issues] Something I've observed

1999-11-02 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> There are all my opinions Steve K=Kudlaks chromexa@mry )@) sistrinution without > Comoros; use emvpitrsaged... > Hey prep feral witty Mr. do rot. > > Jab FUn, What language IS this? :o) -nicole [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] alienation (was: Places, issues, etc)

1999-11-01 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> A terminology suggestion: "gender" is usually acknowledged to be a social > construction, whereas "sex" is usually the word for anatomy. So, for > example, someone may have a "male" sex, but have the gender "man". Ahh better terms, thank you. :o) > Note that this isn't a one-to-one mapping; f

Re: [issues] alienation (was: Places, issues, etc)

1999-11-01 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> Being in aancient days" that as a biologists(bio or bo for short) some of it > sounded pretrty shakey. Awful had to project bird behavior to humasnas and > with pick your specoees. Chimps and Bobonanos are top faves d3epending on > your views. Discovery channel stuff is ovtern biologically skewe

Re: [issues] Automatic associations

1999-11-01 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> I did the gender and race ones, and scored a moderate preference for > black, which surprises the hell out of me because I am personally > conscious of a moderate dislike/distrust of black people, or at least > black men (black women don't bother me as much generally), and a > strong association

Re: [issues] Automatic associations

1999-11-01 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> I found out that I, with 3% of the people who took the test, had a moderate tendancy >to > associate females with science. Not *too* big a surprise since I've been > good and brainwashed with female-friendly science programs, although it'd be > nice if I could say I had no associations. I had

Re: [issues] alienation (was: Places, issues, etc)

1999-10-31 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
Sorry if this gets sent twice. Netscape crashed just as I hit "send". Originally, I accidentally sent the message to myself ;o) Original Message Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 23:52:08 -0800 From: Nicole Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Penguin Chaos To:

Re: [issues] alienation (was: Places, issues, etc)

1999-10-31 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
I love it when I send mail to myself ;o) Original Message From: Nicole Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: Penguin Chaos To: Nicole Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [issues] alienation (was: Places, issues, etc) > Couldn't find anything

Re: [issues] alienation (was: Places, issues, etc)

1999-10-31 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> > There was a great documentary on the TV/TS lifestyle on the Discovery > > channel (it just ended and I am sure it will be repeated). > > I'm going to have to make a point of watching it. According to my http://www.tvguide.com/listings it will be repeated tonight at 2:00 AM PST. It is called

Re: [issues] alienation (was: Places, issues, etc)

1999-10-31 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> Kelly (who understands alienation better than anyone has any right > to...) There was a great documentary on the TV/TS lifestyle on the Discovery channel (it just ended and I am sure it will be repeated). An interesting experience was brought up at the end: a male to female post-op was working

Re: [issues] /. Uncle Robin's Advice for Lovelorn Geeks

1999-10-24 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> Roblimo posted an article on /. with advice for lonely guys about how to > find a woman. This has drawn a variety of responses, some of them > complaining about its attitude toward women. At first blush, it seems > that most of those comments were written by men. I thought I'd ask some > wome

Re: Fw: [issues] Screenshots - on a lighter note

1999-10-24 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> I apologize, but I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you. I am > stating what I think...If that makes me "stupid" then so be it. I doubt I > would take advice from someone named "Teknodragon". My name's Brendan, > talk to me when playtime is over. Wasn't it you that said in another m

Re: Fw: [issues] Screenshots - on a lighter note

1999-10-23 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> I already pointed this out and was promptly ignored. Possibly because it > made sense and didn't give anyone room to argue annoying "I'm an oppressed > minority in a hard, hard world" points. Check again. There is no adult section. Someone else pointed that out, but you seem to have ignored it

Re: Fw: [issues] Screenshots - on a lighter note

1999-10-23 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> >Perhaps. But after you hear "women can't do xx" (where xx is usually > > This is called "transference". Who the hell has said anything about women > not being able to do things? We're talking about themes, and scantily-clad > people in such, NOT your built-up angst over somethign random. We

Re: [issues] Women and the Open Source Community (was screenshots)

1999-10-23 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> That's mostly widows or divorced women (IIRC a muslim in countries like > Iran(sp?), Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan can divorce from his wife just by > speaking it out three times, can someone please yell "Middle Ages"?). I'm not sure if that's quite right... but it is REALLY easy for the man to d

Re: [issues] Women and the Open Source Community (was screenshots)

1999-10-23 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> How is this allowed to happen? I realize no one wants to go out and get > themselves shot, > and the women are limited in what they can do to help themselves if they > aren't allowed > to leave the house, but are all the men just standing by, feeling that > it doesn't concern > them? Don't the

Re: Fw: [issues] Screenshots - on a lighter note

1999-10-22 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> Why does everything in the screenshot HAVE to be about the theme? Isn't > the purpose of a screenshot to show what the theme looks like while being > used, rather than what it looks like with a bunch of apps and images put > there because they relate to the theme? Apps and images that you may no

Re: Fw: [issues] Screenshots - on a lighter note

1999-10-22 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> I'm really starting to wonder if people are just being WAY too thin > skinned. Perhaps. But after you hear "women can't do xx" (where xx is usually something technical or "male-oriented") or something similar, you start to get more offensive than defensive, finding the problem before the proble

Re: [issues] Screenshots

1999-10-22 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> Well I have seen that sort of thing in the collegiate atmosphere. As in Dorm > Rooms, and it was weird it seemed in California to concentrate in systems, > not according to sex as much. It went up if you went to the State College > system, and less in the UC System. Now I am "globalizing a bit"

Re: [issues] Screenshots

1999-10-21 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
> I find that to be a rather sexist remark! > > *smile* > God, I can't stand people who just want to pretend they're as PC as > possible. We need more nekkid men to even things up. No problem here. neither theme has nekkid anything... the keanu theme only shows his face... and the duchovny th