;ve been working the
past few days on it and am getting close.
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Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 09:36:51AM -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
>> So when the shit hits the fan, it *really* hits the fan...
>
> Ok folks, both machines are back!
>
> You can resume your commits.
>
> Many thanks to:
> nnewton [of
Lance Albertson wrote:
> I'm really sorry about this, but we'll just have to deal with it. Lets
> hope this is all we need to do for tonight.
So when the shit hits the fan, it *really* hits the fan...
As of now, we still have both machines down. Lark is apparently having
some
this, but we'll just have to deal with it. Lets
hope this is all we need to do for tonight.
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Lance Albertson wrote:
> We're going to be finally moving the last two machines at the OSL to the
> new datacenter later this afternoon. The scheduled time will be 2pm PST
> or 2200 UTC today. Unless something comes up, plan for about an hour
> downtime for that today.
Bot
PST
or 2200 UTC today. Unless something comes up, plan for about an hour
downtime for that today.
Thanks-
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Lance Albertson wrote:
> We've been having some hardware issues with the machine that runs
> lists.g.o in the last week or so. Unfortunately, lcars (the person who
> manages it) is going out of town this weekend and won't be able to
> troubleshoot it while he's gone. T
ou all when we make the switch.
In the meantime, if you notice list mail being slow, you'll know why.
Sorry about the inconvenience!
Thanks-
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e a hard time wanting to help them. I can't
control what Kurt does/says so that's out of my control. I didn't
exactly like his response either but he wanted to take care of mail so
that's what he's doing. Respect around here lately has been at an all
time low and I'm g
can get around that, but as you've seen Kurt/Andrea have already made up
their mind. I let them deal with the mail system so they have a say on
that for now.
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t forwarding. Cox (rhyme it as you will), my cable provider,
> doesn't allow 25 to leave their network. To send mail, I *have* to relay
> through their mail servers.
Then use port 587 like I do and it works perfectly fine. I have Cox and
don't have any problems sending gentoo mail th
put changes" crap. I can't believe what I
read on here...
People, this whole thread is silly and a disgrace to our user base to
even read. I'm half tempted to submit iggy's vote-devs-off-the-island
GLEP :P (Thanks SpankY for reminding me about that).
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y and is expected to only take an hour.
Sorry about the issues this may cause!
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oo is much less personal now than it was
> "back in the day", but it does, at least, make things look less
> malicious.
I often wondered if people's filters would muck away such retirement
bugs sometimes. Perhaps devrel might send personal emails along side bug
emails
Ryan Hill wrote:
> Lance Albertson wrote:
>
>> From my point of view, it would have been nice to have at least been
>> asked what infra could do to host these tarballs down the road. That
>> way, we have a sound plan of doing a good release when they're ready. I
&
x27;re ready' is done.
Its kind of a 'peer' review type of thing and it also builds
trust/communication between all of us.
This whole issue boils down to accountability and communication. We want
to make sure that We (gentoo) as a whole can be accountable for a
project that is cre
this project's future)
Except that where do you host those first few releases? I'm pretty sure
we can stick them in experimental, but for the long run infra should be
in communication with this group so that we can make an effective plan
on hosting.
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or send em an email with your thoughts on how hosting might work so we
can start planning that?
Thanks-
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of us opting for filing a compliant rather than work with
the person individually first.
> You can always revert the mask also; most developers have cvs commit
> access (I know you do).
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policies you come up with, they mean absolutely nothing if you can't
actively deal with the consequences.
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at it doesn't happen again. So aside from the
perceived outcome, we did fix a few issues that we had with that.
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Homer Parker wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 13:14 -0500, Lance Albertson wrote:
>> For the record, I was waiting for those folks to come to us to resolve
>> it. Last I knew we had a partial resolution with the parties involved,
>> but shortly after that they just stopped pur
ing it.
Anyways, I'm not going to take any more flame bait since I'm sick and
tired of this shit.
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:11:52 -0500 Lance Albertson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | I partially agree that a strong council will help the situation, but
> | the problem with any leadership-by-committee model is the lack of
> | quick decisions. Many
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 08:42:48 -0500 Lance Albertson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | I'm afraid those days are in the past unless some kind of fork happens
> | where the folks who think we need a leader go their way and the folks
> | who pref
kind of fork happens
where the folks who think we need a leader go their way and the folks
who prefer the leader-by-committee approach go their way. We all hate
forks, none of us have time for forks, but looking at the dividing line,
I don't see how we'll be able to compromise with out adding
Simon Stelling wrote:
> Lance Albertson wrote:
>> I generally try to do that, but after the 10th time the person doesn't
>> respect you and demands things from you, its kind of hard to keep that
>> mentality.
>
> Well, one out of >300. Simply do it for someone
Simon Stelling wrote:
> Lance Albertson wrote:
>> Frankly, the attitude of a lot devs lately towards infra
>> have made many of us not want to communicate what we're doing. If we're
>
> I can understand that, partly. But that won't help anyone. Assuming
&g
if we can't deal with
each other in a semi-professional manner. It seems like mini-flame
explosions on irc/email have happened more frequently in the last few
months. This is just going to make the group implode if nothing is done
about it.
Anyways, that's my thoughts.
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Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> * Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
>
>
>
>>> And what does this flag exactly say at this point ?
>>>
>>> Install only xlib ?
>>> Install xlib and some further ones ? Which ones ?
>>> Inst
ctly say at this point ?
>
> Install only xlib ?
> Install xlib and some further ones ? Which ones ?
> Install all libs ?
Opening an ebuild and reading it must be hard.
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titled to it. That's just how I view it when I read it. Its a bit
vague on what Gentoo really is. Is it talking only about the meta
distribution? Or that plus the underlying supporting systems that help
run Gentoo?
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tioned the table locking issues at some point
somewhere. I haven't looked at the bug, so you can prove me wrong. I
thought we had explained those issues somewhere (maybe -core?).
But yeah, I totally agree.
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pen on the
> slave and writes on the master. However you would need to change most of
> the queries to point to the slave server which is usually not trivial.
> It sounds like this is the path the Infra team is pursuing.
1++
You got it right :-)
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Chris Bainbridge wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 03/08/06, Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> You have no concept of where the bottle neck is. The webserver hosting
>> the cgi part isn't being loaded hardly at all. The database server is a
>> pretty beefy box,
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:51:55 -0500 Lance Albertson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | There are more constructive ways of finding out the status of a
> | problem/solution.
>
> Actually, with that in mind I think the council could be of help here...
recruiters *cough*swift*cough* could work faster ;-) )
Anyways, I'm not going to rant on about this anymore. We're working on
the problem, and you just have to be patient.
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r help? I think you
know how I'm feeling now then. I fail to see how the constant nagging
helps the situation. The logic escapes me. There are more constructive
ways of finding out the status of a problem/solution.
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an update to the bug every
week until it gets completed. My guess (sparing any huge hurdles), is
that we can have the new bugs up by the end of this month. That's
including setting up the software, and testing it to make sure that the
issues that's been occurring have been addressed.
Che
#x27;t make a system that's easily DoS'able. If anyone wants to
help out with that, please contact KingTaco as he's the contact for that
project right now.
Patience is indeed a virtue.
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chful eyes.
Basically, it boils down to organization of ebuilds and how they are
being watched. A group that watches all isn't a good idea to me, my idea
above makes more sense.
Anyways, I've been trying to keep quiet on this issue and decided I
could interject here :)
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in a technical debate. No
matter what either of you two think is technically right, you're both
right and both wrong.
/me goes back to lurking
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nd help make Gentoo better for all.
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eally viewcv now) stuff.
Enjoy :)
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or
helping us :).
Thanks-
[1] http://www.gni.com/
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es unless the demand is there.
> Suggest others are given time to weigh in on this rather then
> restating that you don't think there is demand for it.
>
> Nobody yays it, hey, folks have spoken and y'all go with the same
> non public backup.
I agree. I'm not shutting i
hiving the master mirror files (including purgatory stuff)
twice a week so that aspect is already done. But as I said earlier, I
don't want this machine to become a publically accessible machine. That
wasn't my intention when I set it up. I do have some options at this
location if we ne
might as well abuse it.
A lot of the stuff that's currently in the purgatory area also includes
sources for stuff we didn't make (upstream sources, etc). If you can
separate those files from Gentoo specific files, then it would be much
easier to manag (from an admin point of view). Its not
start abusing it, then we'll vote them off the
island :)
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Marius Mauch wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 22:30:31 -0500
> Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Donnie Berkholz wrote:
>>
>>> I propose that all need-to-know announcements and decisions be
>>> posted to a separate, moderated (or restri
ement-list (or make our developers/users). Our
-announce list certainly has the historical presence where the most of
our user-base would see something. I guess if this isn't the case, then
I don't see a problem with the new list.
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eks? This all could have been avoided if you
had written out an RFC and asked for comments on it *before hand*. Don't
you agree?
And please please please ... Keep your responses to a technical level
and don't bring in personal issues. I have tried to keep my reply with
that in mind. If you h
ow I'll just disappear for the weekend, don't flame too much in my
> | absence ...
>
> That would also be a good start.
Indeed.
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Mike Frysinger wrote:
> i clearly suck at dates
That's what Jeff said after your date with him. Said goats were better
than you! :-)
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K
middle of the nite ?
> -mike
Wouldn't you be afraid if I walked up to you in the middle of the night? :-)
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Alec Warner wrote:
> So apparently they suck, anyone have a new shiny idea on how to group
> packages and maintaining developers?
I suggest we create a murder of developers! Then we can be cool and not
suck! :-)
/me goes back into lurking mode
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s and get them into the official rotation
Actually, the only rotation you can get on is a community one (which
minimizes the amount of users). All the servers under rsync.g.o are
strictly controlled by infra.
So nice try ...
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at most people don't have a problem with it, then it
should ok to assume that its 'more' official. Now if its discussed and
several people point out issues with a project, and the project either
denies or ignores the issues that are brought up, then I would question
its officia
project that seemed to be
ignoring the issues at hand and I wasn't going to support the project on
infra if they continued to be like that.
Thanks for answering most of those questions. I'll let the developer
community decide if they like them or not :-).
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ore all the points in it and just go with this
without consulting the group first. If you can't sort out the issues
that have been brought out here, I'm afraid I'm going to have to decline
my support on infra hardware for this specific project (but not the
other overlays so people d
gh
on questions. Ignoring them will only make the project less credible. I
do not support such tactics on infra if this is certainly the case.
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coming Gentoo devs themselves... just in a
very long drawn out recruitment process. :-)
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r" sounds a bit meagre, having his name listed
> there first, forever, is probably enough.
Make sure you use tags so you can't miss it either.
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he Infrastructure Team should be affiliated
> with the decision :).
Heh, and people wonder how cabal rumors are started :-) I have to agree
with this. The only thing infra should be involved with is how it might
affect distribution to our users and/or hosting of stuff. We just make
stuff go, you guys
ou who are
constantly bring up these non-technical topics thus pushing the issue
into oblivion.
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gave the anal people
the ability to at least have some form of validity. It is one of the
options I know of currently.
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rovide a developer
restricted rsync module on the test box so that they can actually try
using their systems on there.
Anyways, I'd just thought I'd give my input since its going to need to
go through us eventually :). If people like the idea of having a SoC
project for this, let me
ing for work, but I'm sure I can
squeeze in some booth time. Add me on the list of folks to keep in
contact for this.
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Key fingerprin
[1]. I'm not sure if that's exactly what
you're looking for, but its a really nice lightweight way of creating a
gentoo-like system w/o the things you described above. Take a look and
give it a shot :)
[1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/gnap.xml
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Greg KH wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 10:52:38PM -0500, Lance Albertson wrote:
>> Mike Frysinger wrote:
>>> On Friday 07 April 2006 19:39, Roy Marples wrote:
>>>>> ... some just want a generic Gentoo business card and the
>>>>> ones we had were
e last LWE I went to. Its an OO2 drawing file.
Edit to your liking (I took out my real numbers).
[1] http://dev.gentoo.org/~ramereth/misc/gentoo-buscard2.odg
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o I have problems with your statement regarding infra having no
accountability.
I believe all devs have the most confidence in the council since it was
fairly voted upon by everyone.
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Lance Albertson wrote:
> It appears that the OSL had some kind of a power issue (which
> unfortunately included having some issues with the generator). They are
> still working on bringing machines back up, but anything thats tied to
> the database server is not working (bugs/forums/
, while others are still MIA.
Please be patient as they work on resolving the issue. I believe CVS
should be working now and the tree should be updating. Please let me
know if that is not the case.
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-
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:09:28 +0100 Simon Stelling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> | > On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 11:35:34 -0600 Lance Albertson
> | > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | > | QA shouldn't have to de
of neatness, it shouldn't be waving
red flags. Yes, its probably something that should be fixed, but it
shouldn't be a critical one just because the tool is broken and can't
handle the weirdness.
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Lance Albertson wrote:
> I should note that if are a Gentoo Developer and have
> problems/concerns/issues with Ciaran's attitude/actions, please comment
> on bug #114944. (this bug is only open to Gentoo developers). Its better
> if you say it yourself in this bug rather than let
blems/concerns/issues with Ciaran's attitude/actions, please comment
on bug #114944. (this bug is only open to Gentoo developers). Its better
if you say it yourself in this bug rather than letting other people
quoting what you say.
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ething that stupid needs to be delt with quickly.
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issues. Going on a witch hunt to fix one problem
compared to the bigger issues we know we have is simply silly. This is
really starting to look like a power issue rather than a QA issue.
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. When I
asked him about (he can probably provide more detail), It took a lot of
processing time and wasn't that scalable. Now, I'm not sure if anything
has changed since then.
I can probably setup toucan to use gorg in some fashion if I had a few
folks to test it with. I'm sure t
Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Lance Albertson wrote:
> | I understand the block was lifted for projects, but that doesn't mean
> | herds should all should fit underneath proj/.
>
> I agree. What I meant is that herds should be grouping together to form
> new projects if they d
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 01:17 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
>
>>I understand the block was lifted for projects, but that doesn't mean
>>herds should all should fit underneath proj/. I think we should open up
>>a similar space just for herds.
&g
Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Lance Albertson wrote:
> | What if instead of having proj/en we did herd/en on www? Of course, that
> | doesn't help the whole "GuideXML is hard" bit. I like the idea of using
> | RST, but it doesn't seem very scalable at this time. Maybe,
fort on our part.
I sadly can't think of an answer. I guess the real question is, is this
that much of a problem/issue?
Who knows, its getting late in the night for me and I'm just starting to
think up crazy ideas :-)
In short: Do we need to re-evaluate Gentoo's documentation str
yone that something is broke about it.
I could setup gorg on toucan or something to make things better for such
things. Just create a bug so I can put it on my todo list.
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Luis Medinas wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 12:54 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
>
>>>>Devwiki is effectively inaccesable to non gentoo folks (whether in
>>>>access, or in navigating the beast), thus it's a no go.
>>>>
>>>>Any docs ge
the efforts of the
GDP which I'd rather not do. Not to mention deciding who would be
monitoring it and such (allocating people's time to it). I'm opposed to
any public wiki until the GDP states their opinion on it. Its their area
and I don't want to take it away from them.
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navigating the beast), thus it's a no go.
>
> Any docs generated should be googable imo.
If they are needing an initial place to start things off before they go
official, then the devwiki is a perfect place. Once they are ready to be
consumed by the other folks, they should be placed
Brian Harring wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 10:55:50AM -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
>
>>A few rough ideas that just popped in my
>>head is either packing all of these versions into one tarball (not even
>>sure if thats feasible)
>>, or creating a hashed su
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 17:32 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>I think a key thing that is missing is build info that is only kept on
>>the installed system. If we were to ever create a build server setup, we
>>need to be able t
cflag differences, gcc
version differences, etc. The key one i'm after is use flags. I'm not
sure of the technical details behind it, but we need something to make
the binpkgs more useful outside of the local system. Having the ebuild
packed at the end is a great idea! I think its just ti
that
won't break things for the general gentoo project. They could even
'start from scratch' and possibly fix the legacy issues right off. It
gives the enterprise group the flexibility of doing whatever they need
to do without the backlash of everyone else.
Just my thoughts on the whole
t all the comments made
from my thread earlier. You cannot make an enterprise distro without
focus or direction and a leader. You'll be stuck in committee decisions
all the time.
Not saying its impossible, but it won't be easy.
--
Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Gentoo Infrastr
ically thinking that it'll turn into a
corporate bureaucratic mess is also incorrect. If you can open up your
mind and see past those automatic assumptions and see the value it would
be amazing.
Anyways, as I said. I give up on this getting anywhere.
--
Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Gen
hat keeps track of all these
projects. They would keep track of all this and report back to the
council/devs/etc.
We've gotten to the size that trying to get everyone communicating with
everyone is getting difficult. Having someone overseeing these things
might help development and make sure
Grant Goodyear wrote:
> Lance Albertson wrote: [Mon Jan 02 2006, 12:14:05PM CST]
>
>>Gentoo has been missing some kind of direction/goal for some time now.
>>Looking back at the last two years, what are the major
>>changes/accomplishments that we have done? Granted, I kno
should
have goals that fit that. When I say "we have a niche we're perfect at",
I'm mainly referring to the source-based nature of our OS. There isn't
another distro out there that does it as well as us and we should
improve on that fact. Let the other distros get better
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 11:25 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
>
>>>I'm also for telling the users to rsync exclude the ChangeLogs if they
>>>don't want them instead of getting rid of them or crippling them.
>>
>>I don't t
Patrick Lauer wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 12:50 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
>
>>A mission statement only goes so far. The underlying leadership has to
>>make sure that statement is upheld and kept alive. Too many folks have a
>>mission statement, but no one ever
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