Re: Stus-List Prop coating - other coatings

Bob, Not too far from you. Ultra Tech 11542 Davis Creek Court Jacksonville, Florida 32256 I was also using another Jacksonville company's product today.  Also in your neighborhood.  I bought new LED cabin lights and wanted to protect them.  Don't trust the titanium oxide coating so I disassem

Re: Stus-List Fw: removing headliner access panels

Cool, I hope you guys have the same ones as me. Thanks all. Steve C&C 32 Toronto On 2013-04-24, at 1:01 PM, Joel Aronson wrote: > Now you tell me? I've been paying Worst Marine prices! (but its closer to > the boat) > > Joel > 35/3 > Annapolis > > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Persu

Re: Stus-List Prop coating

Dennis, I notice the contact number is a Jacksonville area code. Do you know the manufacturer? Bob M Ox 33-1 Jax, FL P.S. Ox prevailed in tonight's beercan race (10 knots, broad reach there and back), although a San Juan 28 gave 'er a run for the money. On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Dennis

Stus-List removing headliner access panels

Steve: Pat is correct.I can remove them with my fingers...they expose a screw holding the liner in place. I haven't replaced any of minethe PO had a 'reserve' of them just in case. Check your local yachting storethey will have them or know where to get them. Bob Abbott AZURA C&C

Stus-List Fw: Fwd: the day after...

You are ahead of us. Ours go in Saturday. Mike S/V Persuasion C&C 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Ken Heaton Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 5:18 PM To: cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: the day after... Ah yes, but here in Sydney, Nova Scotia we're at 46° N, 60° W. Actually, the crossing point

Re: Stus-List Batteries

Nothing but the best, or at least the most expensive for my boat. :-) Joel Aronson On Apr 24, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Tim Goodyear wrote: The Bermuda race is Cat 1 - sealed batteries for you, Joel...! Tim Mojito On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Ken Heaton wrote: > ISAF requires sealed batteries

Re: Stus-List Batteries

The Bermuda race is Cat 1 - sealed batteries for you, Joel...! Tim Mojito On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Ken Heaton wrote: > ISAF requires sealed batteries for Category 0, 1, 2 & 3. Category 4, 5 & > 6 do not have this requirement. No 3.28.4 > > So it depends on what sort of offshore racing

Re: Stus-List Emergency Communications Plan - for incidents / accidents at yacht clubs etc

I'll be working on the same for my club, so I am interested too. I know the flying club has a one-page list in every airplane of who to call in an emergency. That could be a start. I am thinking of a laminated page in every club whaler with something like: IN CASE OF EMERGENCY CALL IN THIS ORDER:

Stus-List Emergency Communications Plan - for incidents / accidents at yacht clubs etc

Sorry - not C&C related but sailing related I have taken on the responsibility to try to come up with a Communications Plan to be invoked should there be an incident involving serious injury or worse to one of our members or guests while at the Club (on-water or on-shore) Severn Sailing Associati

Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting

I think so. There should not be much heat as there are no drivers or other dissipators. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-24, at 17:19, Graham Collins wrote: That will work perfectly, with the bonus that it will also shed some heat. Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 On 2

Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting

That will work perfectly, with the bonus that it will also shed some heat. Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 On 2013-04-24 11:11 AM, Knowles Rich wrote: I have some LED strip lights to install. I'm going to try mounting them on the web of some aluminum curtain rod cut to length with m

Re: Stus-List Batteries

ISAF requires sealed batteries for Category 0, 1, 2 & 3. Category 4, 5 & 6 do not have this requirement. No 3.28.4 So it depends on what sort of offshore racing you are doing. 3.28.4 Battery Systems a) When an electric starter is the only method for starting the engine, the yacht shall have a s

Re: Stus-List Batteries

From my perspective, I can't see any point in spending money on sealed batteries unless you have to. Offshore governed racing or extended offshore sailing are possible reasons. Beer is more important. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-24, at 16:31, Joel Aronson wrote: Rich, If I

Re: Stus-List removing headliner access panels

If you break any any big box lumber/hardware carry them. Bill Walker Evening Star C n C 36 Pentwater, Mi. - Reply message - From: "Stevan Plavsa" To: Subject: Stus-List removing headliner access panels Date: Wed, Apr 24, 2013 12:12 pm That seems overly simple. Suspiciously so. If it's b

Re: Stus-List Batteries

Rich, If I were starting from scratch I'd go that way too, but if I do the golf cart batteries I'll use one of the 31s I already own as the starter. If the wet cell golf cart batteries don't have a date on them I can use them, otherwise I need to decide whether to spend $600 on 2 sealed golf cart

Re: Stus-List Batteries

I like Fred's option best except I'd go with a 24 instead of the 27. Simply no need for the extra capacity. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-24, at 16:04, Frederick G Street wrote: > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album htt

Re: Stus-List Batteries

Joel -- take a look at the Trojan 6V-GEL -- sealed gel 6V battery in the same form factor as their other golf-cart batteries. About 17% lower capacity than their T-105, but if you need sealed that would be the way to go. Pricey little buggers -- around $300 EACH, compared to $140 for the T-105

Re: Stus-List Batteries

Two Trojan T-105 wet cell golf-cart batteries for the house bank, and a Trojan Group 27 wet cell start battery (I'm not racing ISAF). Trojan also makes sealed gel batteries in those sizes. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr

Re: Stus-List Batteries

Joe, True! apparently no one makes maintenance free sealed wet cell golf cart batteries. I can get away with a sealed wet cell marine battery. An AGM golf cart battery at Sam's is $169. A vented wet cell is $85. On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Della Barba, Joe wrote: > Buying gel cell or

Re: Stus-List Batteries

Buying gel cell or AGM "golf cart" batteries kind of defeats the main advantage they have - they are BY FAR the cheapest batteries out there for total life cycle cost if you are talking the cheap wet cell versions. If you need sealed batteries anyway, there really are no bargains. I would just g

Re: Stus-List Batteries

Fred, Were you able to find sealed batteries, or are they vented? Joel On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Frederick G Street wrote: > I'd go for "A". In fact, I *DID* do just that when I redid my electrical > system and replaced batteries. > > Fred Street -- Minneapolis > S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C

Re: Stus-List Batteries

I'd go for "A". In fact, I DID do just that when I redid my electrical system and replaced batteries. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 24, 2013, at 12:54 PM, Joel Aronson wrote: > All, > > I hate to bring up this topic,

Re: Stus-List LED running lights - legal aspects of.....

I encountered Elf in extremely thick morning fog a few years ago in Fisher's Island Sound. No lights being displayed, and no horns. She came close enough that I heard voices of her crew, which is what alerted me to her presence. Visibility was probably 100 feet or so. I knew from reading earlie

Re: Stus-List Batteries

Funniest part was my friend had his girlfriend out for her FIRST SAIL EVER. She had NO IDEA that a hurricane was not something that always happened. Her parents were less than thrilled that she got home many days late, but we were stuck doing repairs and we had rum..

Re: Stus-List Batteries

I bet the crumb cake went last . . . . All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website On Apr 24, 2013, at 2:05 PM, "Della Barba,

Re: Stus-List Batteries

I would suggest a U1 battery. That is what I use and it has worked fine for years. They are available cheap at WalMart for lawn tractors or more money for a gel or AGM marine version. They are about 35 AH and cost about $140 for the gel/AGM versions at West. I have one you can borrow to make su

Re: Stus-List Batteries

I would go with (a) Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson Sent: April 24, 2013 2:55 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Batteries All, I hate to bring

Stus-List LED running lights - legal aspects of.....

There *was* a legal case where a boat built in the 1800s was anchored with a kerosene anchor light and hit by a powerboat. The powerboat skipper blamed the sailboat for having an illegal light. I think the sailors won in the end, but this was a long time ago. This is the boat BTW (http://www.cy

Stus-List Batteries

All, I hate to bring up this topic, as it is almost as bad as asking about anchors. I currently have 2 Group 31 batteries. I want to have a 3rd separate starting battery. My choices have been narrowed to: (a) 2 T105 6 volt golf cart batteries for the house bank and use one of the existing batt

Re: Stus-List Fw: removing headliner access panels

Now you tell me? I've been paying Worst Marine prices! (but its closer to the boat) Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Persuasion wrote: > Replacement washers and buttons are available at Home Depot > > Mike > S/V Persuasion > C&C 37 Keel/CB > Long Sault > > *From:* Pat

Re: Stus-List removing headliner access panels

Okay, well after the knife blade is slid under the cap you will have to tilt the leading edge of the blade (the part now under the cap) away from the headliner in order for it to pop off. See, a little more complicated. On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Stevan Plavsa wrote: > That seems overly s

Stus-List Fw: removing headliner access panels

Replacement washers and buttons are available at Home Depot Mike S/V Persuasion C&C 37 Keel/CB Long Sault From: Pat Nevitt Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 11:40 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List removing headliner access panels Take a thin blade pocket knife and slip it under

Re: Stus-List removing headliner access panels

He's right, Steve. Simple is good. Phillips screws underneath. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-24, at 13:12, Stevan Plavsa wrote: That seems overly simple. Suspiciously so. If it's boat related it's usually 10x more complicated than it first appears. I'll bring a torch and scre

Re: Stus-List Boot Stripes -- Anyone need Brightside Red and Dk Blue?

I like 3M Scotch 225 weather resistant tape.  Makes curves very nicely.Dennis C.From: Chuck S To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list" Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:35 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Boot Stripes -- Anyone need Brightside Red and Dk Blue? Dwight,You may want to use less pressu

Re: Stus-List removing headliner access panels

They are screw covers. Bring the Phillips head too. Joel Aronson On Apr 24, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Stevan Plavsa wrote: That seems overly simple. Suspiciously so. If it's boat related it's usually 10x more complicated than it first appears. I'll bring a torch and screw extractors just in case. Th

Re: Stus-List removing headliner access panels

That seems overly simple. Suspiciously so. If it's boat related it's usually 10x more complicated than it first appears. I'll bring a torch and screw extractors just in case. Thanks for the reply! Steve C&C 32 Toronto On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Pat Nevitt wrote: > Take a thin blade po

Re: Stus-List C&C Landfall 39 - NON-sports car

Closest I've come to a 2-seater sports car is an old pick up truck!But I can haul the boat cushions home over the winter, which this year doesn't seem to want to end.RonWild CheriC&C 30STL2001 red F-150 --- On Fri, 4/19/13, Steve Thomas wrote: From: Steve Thomas Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C Lan

Re: Stus-List removing headliner access panels

Take a thin blade pocket knife and slip it under the edge and they will pop right off, exposing the head of the screw underneath On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Stevan Plavsa wrote: > Hi All, > > My 32 has those little white round buttons that hold the liner panels in > place. I have no idea ho

Stus-List removing headliner access panels

Hi All, My 32 has those little white round buttons that hold the liner panels in place. I have no idea how to remove these! Any insight? I'de like to reuse them of course unless they are designed for one time use like rivets or something .. in which case I'de like to know where to get replacements

Re: Stus-List Boot Stripes -- Anyone need Brightside Red and Dk Blue?

Dwight,You may want to use less pressure wen applying the tape?I simply follow the old edge to get a straight line, working from left to right, I can get 95% in one continuous piece, all but where it curves sharp under the counter.  I use a brand new roll (each year) of 1" wide, 14 day, 3M blue pai

Re: Stus-List Boot Stripes

I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous! sam :-) C&C 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta 

Re: Stus-List Boot Stripes

As always you guys are both right...I am ambidextrous, but I am also just too damn short for the job Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Abbott Sent: April 24, 201

Re: Stus-List Spinlock Clutches

I would suspect the cams. You can easily inspect them for wear. I've had to replace the cams several times. When you buy the cam, the spring is included since it's part of the assembly. You might also inspect the bottom plate, but it seems to wear less, and it not as critical. Don Wagner C&C 41

Re: Stus-List Spinlock Clutches

Depends on how old they are. You could easily bump up the line a foot on either side of the clutch so it is a little thicker. On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 10:25 AM, JOHN D IRVIN wrote: > Firefly has 6 (2pairs of 3) on the cabintop. C&C 27 Mk III. They are > starting to slip occasionally and I wonder

Re: Stus-List Prop coating

Isn't science wonderful? Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-24, at 11:33, Frederick G Street wrote: Heck, if it actually repels water, couldn't you just apply it to the aft sides of the prop blades, and you wouldn't even need to spin the prop -- the water being repelled would just p

Re: Stus-List Prop coating

My boat yard is recommending PropSpeed (http://www.propspeed.com) which apparently works for about 3 years but is expensive (not so much if you split the cost as a single unit apparently does several props).  I may try this next year.  Someone else recommended Soft Seal (http://www.crc.co.nz/Automo

Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting

The USCG issues standards, and any manufacturer may properly claim they meet the USCG standards without the USCG ever seeing the item. The USCG DOES maintain a list of some products they have tested and approved, but a nav light does NOT need prior approval from them to be completely legal for

Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting

Pretty sure I'm the only one of me! They don't always tell me when an article is coming out. Andy On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Frederick G Street wrote: > Must be a different Andrew Burton who's a delivery skipper. > > > Fred Street -- Minneapolis > S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on

Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting

Must be a different Andrew Burton who's a delivery skipper. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 24, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Andrew Burton wrote: > By me? > Andy ___ This List is provided

Re: Stus-List Spinlock Clutches

John, Chances are it's the springs, but might as well replace both. Spinlock sells a wealth of replacement parts that are pretty easy to install. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B

Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting

I quit using my masthead tricolor years ago when not far offshore anyway after about the 10th time I almost got run over by a powerboat yelling "turn on your lights". They do NOT look up. Joe Della Barba From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Burton Sent: Wedn

Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting

By me? Andy On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Frederick G Street wrote: > Andrew -- nice article in this month's *Cruising World*... > > > Fred Street -- Minneapolis > S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > > On Apr 24, 2013, at 9:20 AM, Andrew Burton > wrote:

Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting

Andrew -- nice article in this month's Cruising World... Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 24, 2013, at 9:20 AM, Andrew Burton wrote: > I've been boarded by the coasties countless times and they've never looked at > a ligh

Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting

We have a game of finding bad lights at night. Powerboats around here have: 1. No lights at all. 2. Red and green lights on wrong sides of the boat 3. Red and green lights at stern and stern light at the bow 4. "headlights" like a car instead of or in addition to running

Re: Stus-List Prop coating

Heck, if it actually repels water, couldn't you just apply it to the aft sides of the prop blades, and you wouldn't even need to spin the prop -- the water being repelled would just push the boat… :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI

Stus-List Spinlock Clutches

Firefly has 6 (2pairs of 3) on the cabintop.  C&C 27 Mk III. They are starting to slip occasionally and I wonderwhat advice listers can provide. Change the springs? Change the jaws?  Suggestions pppreciated. John Irvin BYC Ottawa___ This List is provide

Re: Stus-List LEDs Cabin Lighting

Joe, I just ordered 3 from the seller you recommended. Last year I bought some from Hong Kong that had a square array of LEDs attached by pigtails to an 1142 type base. They were not expensive and worked well in the now yellowed round plastic original cabin light fixtures on my 27, but obviou

Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting

I've been boarded by the coasties countless times and they've never looked at a light, other than to see it powers up. I wouldn't worry about what they approve; just get something that works and is bright enough to get you seen. Andy Peregrine C&C 40 On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Joel Aronson

Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting

The bulb must beCG approved for the exact fixture. My local chandlery stopped selling led mastheads for that reason. Joel Aronson On Apr 24, 2013, at 9:55 AM, "Della Barba, Joe" wrote: We would need to know what kind of bulbs your light uses. The 1142s referenced in my link fit some masthead r

Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting

I have a few of the white strips already, so the white 360 degree light is covered. Far from being too dim, I am worried about being blinded by too-bright light. The white ones at least are quite intense. Also remember the alternative is a little battery powered light with a little flashlight bu

Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting

I have some LED strip lights to install. I'm going to try mounting them on the web of some aluminum curtain rod cut to length with mounting screw holes at the ends. The strips should adhere to the aluminum, I hope, and the aluminum will improve the light distribution and provide a rigid mounting

Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting

And, for a dingy you only need one white all round light. I think:) Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-24, at 11:01, Knowles Rich wrote: I suspect they may not be bright enough. Nice idea though. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-24, at 10:58, "Della Barba, Joe" wrote:

Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting

I suspect they may not be bright enough. Nice idea though. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-24, at 10:58, "Della Barba, Joe" wrote: I have a small 12 volt gel battery that should run them. I may try and add a 12 volt lighting coil to my outboard, but it remains to be seen how easy

Re: Stus-List Prop coating

I was thinking the same thing. The end of sanding?? All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website On Apr 24, 2013, at 9:53 AM, Kn

Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting

I have a small 12 volt gel battery that should run them. I may try and add a 12 volt lighting coil to my outboard, but it remains to be seen how easy and cheap that will be. My engine is the pull-start only version with no charging system at all. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:

Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting

We would need to know what kind of bulbs your light uses. The 1142s referenced in my link fit some masthead running lights. If you use a white light in the red-green-white part of the unit you *have to* use WARM WHITE. Cool white will NOT produce red and green through the lenses, which were desi

Re: Stus-List Prop coating

Bottom paint? Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-24, at 10:36, "Dennis C." wrote: Someone should try this to protect their prop. Let us know how it works. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___

Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting

No – they are much cooler than the incandescent bulbs they replace. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ron Kaye Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 5:02 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin

Stus-List Prop coating

Someone should try this to protect their prop.  Let us know how it works. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-

Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting

David Knecht wrote: >Good idea, Joe- How are you going to power them in your dinghy? Dave > >On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:20 AM, "Della Barba, Joe" >wrote: > >> I am going to make dinghy running lights out of these: >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-9-LED-Flexible-Strip-POD-Light-Submerge-Aquarium-Fi

Re: Stus-List bottom paint

That's odd, the cans of VC 17 with Biolux have always been .75 Quart, .710 Liter. Then when you mix the copper in it comes up a little, but not near a quart. Bill Coleman C&C 39 animated_favicon1 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Persuasion Sent: Tuesday, A

Re: Stus-List Boot Stripes

Has anyone ever tried snapping a chalk line for this? I find that what looks straight over 4-5 feet can look different when more tape is laid down. Ron On Apr 24, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Robert Abbott wrote: > No Rich, the problem is Dwight is 'right handed' trying to lay down the tape > with his

Stus-List Boot Stripes

No Rich, the problem is Dwight is 'right handed' trying to lay down the tape with his 'left hand'I think we have a bigger problem here! Bob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2013/04/23 11:29 PM, Knowles Rich wrote: That's the trouble! You are left handed. You have to buy left ha

Re: Stus-List Strip LEDs Cabin Lighting

Good idea, Joe- How are you going to power them in your dinghy?  DaveOn Apr 23, 2013, at 11:20 AM, "Della Barba, Joe" wrote:I am going to make dinghy running lights out of these:http://www.ebay.com/itm/12V-9-LED-Flexible-Strip-POD-Light-Submerge-Aquarium-Fish-Tank-Water-Pr