Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Long service awards

2008-02-17 Thread Levi Stephen
Josiah Worcester wrote: On 08:40 Mon 18 Feb , Levi Stephen wrote: I awared the AFO the Patent Title of Three Months Long Service Leave if e does not already bear it. I awared Levi the Patent Title of Three Months Long Service Leave if e does not already bear it. I awared zefram the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: Accountor Election

2008-01-31 Thread Levi Stephen
Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Jan 31, 2008 1:43 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jan 31, 2008 11:32 AM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jan 31, 2008 12:35 PM, Charles Reiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I vote for the first candidate on the following list who has the most votes

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1887 assigned to BobTHJ

2008-01-30 Thread Levi Stephen
Geoffrey Spear wrote: On Jan 30, 2008 3:02 PM, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Making the public statement 'This statement is a lie' would cause the person making that statement to violate Rule 2149. Soliciting comments on this CFJ. Judge BobTHJ I agree with H. Zefram's anal

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Assessor, Tailor, MS Elections

2008-01-30 Thread Levi Stephen
Ed Murphy wrote: Levi wrote: I initiate an Agoran Decision to resolve the holder of the Assessor office. The eligible voters are the active players. The vote collector is the IADoP. The valid options are BOBTHJ and ROOT. This voting period has ended. Please resolve it with all due speed.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1887 assigned to BobTHJ

2008-01-30 Thread Levi Stephen
> since making a public statement is not a rule-defined action. I'm not sure I follow this. How would it be possible to violate Rule 2149 if the act of 'making a public statement' is not defined by the rules? Levi

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 1882a assigned to Levi, Goethe, root

2008-01-30 Thread Levi Stephen
I agree to REMAND also. Is it also worth considering the possibility that the registration notice registered a player 'Pavitra', rather than 'watcher'? (I believe this was the initial interpretation from the registrar?) Levi I agree to this judicial decision of REMAND, with the added note t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2008-01-24 Thread Levi Stephen
Kerim Aydin wrote: On Thu, 24 Jan 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: Create a new Rule, at Power=4, titled "Spectator", with the text: Any person CAN and may at any time by observing this rule make any change whatsoever to the gamestate, including but not limited to enacting, repealing, or am

DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposal 5417

2008-01-23 Thread Levi Stephen
NUM FL AI SUBMITTER TITLE 5417 D0 2Murphy No notes for disinterested proposals FOR Levi

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2008-01-23 Thread Levi Stephen
comex wrote: Proposal: Generalize Game Actions (AI=3) Create a new Rule, at Power=4, titled "Dictator", with the text: comex CAN and may at any time by announcement make any explicit change whatsoever to the gamestate, including but not limited to enacting, repealing, or amendi

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Resolving CotC election

2008-01-23 Thread Levi Stephen
Josiah Worcester wrote: On Wednesday 23 January 2008 15:56:54 Levi Stephen wrote: This notice resolves the Agoran Decision for the holder of the Clerk of the Courts office. Votes: ZEFRAM: Zefram, root, Eris COMEX: Iammars MURPHY: Goethe, Murphy, OscarMeyr, Wooble, avpx, BobTHJ, comex The

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Ratification

2008-01-21 Thread Levi Stephen
Ed Murphy wrote: woggle wrote: They would self-ratify. Quoth R2034: A public document purporting to resolve an Agoran decision is self-ratifying. No they wouldn't, because messages purporting to resolve Agoran decisions generally aren't public documents. Fix proposal coming up.

DIS: Re: BUS: Can we please, for the love of $diety, ratify this?

2008-01-21 Thread Levi Stephen
Josiah Worcester wrote: I intend to ratify the Short Logical Ruleset published last Wednesday. This doesn't solve the IADoP's issues of who has been nominated for and constend to what offices. It's looking like it might not be possible to sort this out without a CFJ on whether the initial n

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Ratification

2008-01-21 Thread Levi Stephen
Josiah Worcester wrote: On Monday 21 January 2008 19:37:28 Ian Kelly wrote: On Jan 21, 2008 7:21 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I intend to ratify my message alleging to announce the voting results of proposals 5390-5404. Support: me (implicitly) Object: none I hereby ratify the m

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Assessor Election

2008-01-21 Thread Levi Stephen
Ed Murphy wrote: Levi wrote: I initiate an Agoran Decision to resolve the holder of the Assessor office. The valid options are BOBTHJ, ROOT and MURPHY. Did I consent to this? In any case, I don't want it (thus triggering pikhq's conditional). Yeah, root brought this up also. So, it look

DIS: Re: BUS: Ratification

2008-01-21 Thread Levi Stephen
Ed Murphy wrote: I wrote: I intend to ratify my message alleging to announce the voting results of proposals 5390-5404. Support: me (implicitly) Object: none I hereby ratify the message described above. So are we now at the point where the original publication of the voting results was

DIS: Re: BUS: Assessor Election

2008-01-21 Thread Levi Stephen
Ian Kelly wrote: On Jan 21, 2008 3:15 PM, Levi Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I initiate an Agoran Decision to resolve the holder of the Assessor office. The valid options are BOBTHJ, ROOT and MURPHY. The eligible voters are the active players. The vote collector is the IADoP I

Re: DIS: Election, please

2008-01-21 Thread Levi Stephen
Josiah Worcester wrote: If Murphy's initial attempt to resolve the voting period for those proposals was correct, you are now obligated to initiate a few elections. (Mad Scientist and Tailor) Is there a CFJ on this? Currently the state of nominates/elections requires is quite different in ea

DIS: Proto patent title awards

2008-01-19 Thread Levi Stephen
I think the following awards are due: Three months long service: AFO Levi Zefram Six months, Nine months long service: Zefram But, I believe Zefram may have already been awarded some of these, but they are not reflected in the most recent Herald's report. Levi

DIS: Re: BUS: Nominations

2008-01-19 Thread Levi Stephen
I nominate Murphy for Conductor. IADoP notes on this one: Murphy has installed emself as Conductor. There were no other nominations, so it's probably not necessary to resolve this one. Levi

DIS: Re: BUS: Nominations

2008-01-19 Thread Levi Stephen
Levi Stephen wrote: As no attempt was made last quarter, I nominate comex, Zefram and pikhq for Promotor Levi I'm not going to bother with resolving this, as comex and pikhq refused eir nominations. Levi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Report

2008-01-17 Thread Levi Stephen
Ed Murphy wrote: root wrote: Registrar - Thu 12 Jul 17:25:19 root nominated by Human Point Two Tue 17 Jul 06:18:01 root installed by Human Point Two Fri 7 Sep 18:25:49 PPnominated by comex Mon 31 Dec 10:55:53 avpx nominated by Murphy Levi, you appear to be

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Report

2008-01-17 Thread Levi Stephen
Ian Kelly wrote: On Jan 17, 2008 4:08 AM, Levi Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Assessor Sun 29 Apr 20:31:01 Office created by Proposal 4939 Sun 29 Apr 20:31:01 Murphyinstalled by Proposal 4939 Thu 12 Jul 17:25:19 BobTHJnominated by Human Point Two Fri 7 Sep 18:25:

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Report

2008-01-17 Thread Levi Stephen
Zefram wrote: Levi Stephen wrote: Assessor AFO 23 Sep 07 16 Jan 08 T Claim of error: Murphy installed BobTHJ on 15 Jan 08 (message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>). The office then became vacant when BobTHJ was deregistered by writ. Ok, will be cor

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CotC election

2008-01-15 Thread Levi Stephen
comex wrote: On Jan 15, 2008 5:08 PM, Levi Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I interpret this as meaning at the time of this message. Conditional messages are only allowed when the rules allow them, which is currently only with R2127 votes. Ok. R2127, does say that the condit

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ: Speaker/MWP

2008-01-15 Thread Levi Stephen
Except that Murphy's prerogative assignment ignored me. Ah, forgot about that. So, either way, no MWPs have prerogatvies then. Levi

DIS: Re: BUS: CotC election

2008-01-15 Thread Levi Stephen
Roger Hicks wrote: On Jan 15, 2008 2:58 AM, Levi Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I initiate an Agoran Decision to resolve the holder of the CotC office. The valid options are ZEFRAM, COMEX and MURPHY. If there are at least 2 other votes for COMEX I vote COMEX. Otherwise I vote

Re: DIS: Speaker, please assign prerogatives. . .

2008-01-14 Thread Levi Stephen
Josiah Worcester wrote: You're late. Sincerely, Minister Without Portfolio (but not Champion) pikhq. Am I the speaker now? Who are the MWPs? I've lost track again :( Levi

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1870a: assign Levi, Murphy, root

2008-01-14 Thread Levi Stephen
Ian Kelly wrote: On Jan 14, 2008 6:40 PM, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I hereby assign the judicial panel of Levi, Murphy, and root as judge of CFJ 1870a. Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=1870a I intend to cause the panel to judge REMAND, as requested by the prio

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1828a: recuse, assign Levi, Murphy, root

2008-01-14 Thread Levi Stephen
Ian Kelly wrote: On Jan 14, 2008 3:51 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Levi wrote: Is it worth considering the decision that was almost made before for this appeal? Yes, I had forgotten about this. (I wasn't on the panel at the time, so I just filed it away in case it led to an actua

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1828a: recuse, assign Levi, Murphy, root

2008-01-14 Thread Levi Stephen
Ed Murphy wrote: root wrote: On Jan 14, 2008 9:15 AM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I intend to cause the panel to judge REASSIGN, on the basis that comex apparently did not make the reasonable effort to ask pikhq whether the alleged event occurred. I would prefer REMAND. There's no

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1840a: assign Goddess Eris, Levi, root

2007-12-25 Thread Levi Stephen
Taral wrote: With agreement, I would like to have the panel judge REASSIGN. I think a fresh look on this would be valuable I agree to this On 12/20/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I hereby assign the judicial panel of Goddess Eris, Levi, and root as judge of CFJ 1840a.

DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1840a: assign Goddess Eris, Levi, root

2007-12-20 Thread Levi Stephen
My initial thought is REMAND. Probably on the grounds that there may be more issues to be considered than those presented by the caller. But, I'm really not sure yet. Levi

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1828a: assign Iammars, Levi, root

2007-12-19 Thread Levi Stephen
Ian Kelly wrote: On Dec 19, 2007 8:45 PM, Josiah Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It is reasonable to assume that there was evidence of the act when Agora's Child submitted that CFJ. . . Considering that I myself caused Agora's Child to do so. ;) Speculation about motive is poor evidence.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1828a: assign Iammars, Levi, root

2007-12-19 Thread Levi Stephen
Apparently, this test case is testing whether an assertion that an action happened outside of the public forum can even be evidenced in the game. . . Intriguing. An assertion on whether an action happened on the public forum IMO wouldn't be sufficient evidence either, but the archives wo

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1828a: assign Iammars, Levi, root

2007-12-19 Thread Levi Stephen
Josiah Worcester wrote: On Wednesday 19 December 2007 20:43:10 Levi Stephen wrote: I'm happy that SLIPPERY was the appropriate decision. The defandant's assertion/admittance that the alleged act occured was not available at the time that judgement occured. Is REMAND appropriate if ne

DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1828a: assign Iammars, Levi, root

2007-12-19 Thread Levi Stephen
I'm happy that SLIPPERY was the appropriate decision. The defandant's assertion/admittance that the alleged act occured was not available at the time that judgement occured. Is REMAND appropriate if new evidence is available? Levi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal

2007-12-18 Thread Levi Stephen
My reasoning for creating Fookiemyartug was that I was within the 30 day window of prohibited registration after my voluntary deregistration. I wanted to start playing again immediately and set out to find a way to do so. In my defense, I believed Fookiemyartug's retroactivity clause to be a leg

DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposal 5374

2007-12-18 Thread Levi Stephen
FOR Levi

Re: DIS: Marks

2007-12-16 Thread Levi Stephen
Red is okay, but green and blue marks need drastic increases in payout, and we need more colors. Two usable colors of marks is boring. There should be more interesting and esoteric ways to earn Marks than VCs, not the other way around. And more ways to spend them. Even 140 Marks per mo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Wagering

2007-12-13 Thread Levi Stephen
comex wrote: On Dec 13, 2007 6:05 PM, Levi Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (b) The number and color of Marks being wagered, which MUST be less than or equal to the number of Marks possessed by that player, and What if I make a Wager then give aw

Re: DIS: ParaNomic XP (proto-initial rules)

2007-12-12 Thread Levi Stephen
Ed Murphy wrote: Would anyone be interested in starting a new game using the rules below? Are there any problems that would kill it before it started? I'd be interested. I don't see any game killers. A few things I'd probably do differently, but that's what proposals are for ;) Levi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5358-5372

2007-12-11 Thread Levi Stephen
Iammars wrote: On Dec 11, 2007 9:47 PM, Levi Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: TTttPF What's that for? This Time to the Public/Proper Forum -- -Iammars www.jmcteague.com <http://www.jmcteague.com>

DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5358-5372

2007-12-11 Thread Levi Stephen
NUM FL AI SUBMITTER TITLE 5358 D1 2Murphy 1 is 1 FOR 5359 D1 2Murphy Concurring opinions FOR 5360 O1 1.7 Murphy Clarify judicial precedent 10xFOR 5361 O1 1.7 Goethe Dissent! 10xFOR 5362 O1 1.5 rootContracting out locations 10xFOR 5

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: A suggestion

2007-12-11 Thread Levi Stephen
Levi Stephen wrote: Josiah Worcester wrote: I suggest that all Agorans come to aid our fellow nomic, B Nomic, in a time of need. Currently, its rules seem to be breaking down. The Grand Chancellor of B has taken control of the game state. Therefore, I request that all true Agorans search for

DIS: Re: BUS: A suggestion

2007-12-11 Thread Levi Stephen
Josiah Worcester wrote: I suggest that all Agorans come to aid our fellow nomic, B Nomic, in a time of need. Currently, its rules seem to be breaking down. The Grand Chancellor of B has taken control of the game state. Therefore, I request that all true Agorans search for any loopholes in its c

DIS: Re-Proto: Permissions

2007-12-11 Thread Levi Stephen
I think this was missing a couple of things. This adds a recordkeepor and an expiry time. {{{ Create a rule titled 'Permissions' with the following text: A Permission is fixed asset. The recordkeepor of Permissions is the Registrar. Each Permission is associated with a regu

Re: DIS: Proto: Wagering

2007-12-09 Thread Levi Stephen
Thanks Murphy. Better wordings than mine ;) (b) The number and color of Marks being wagered, which MUST be less than or equal to the number of Marks possessed by that player, and Can multiple colors be wagered at once? My intention was yes. e.g., I wager 3

Re: DIS: Proto: Wagering

2007-12-09 Thread Levi Stephen
Add on the ability to wager up to the amount of marks you have plus 100 times the amount of VCs you have, and force VC->mark conversion. > You can change VCs into marks? I was under the impression that it was > only a one-way transfer. Pretty much. Converting Marks to VCs is volu

DIS: Proto: Permissions

2007-12-09 Thread Levi Stephen
Create a rule titled 'Permissions' with the following text: A Permission is fixed asset. Each Permission is associated with a regulated action. The owner of a Permission MAY perform the action associated with that Permission. Once the action has been performed the

DIS: Proto: Wagering

2007-12-09 Thread Levi Stephen
Quite rough at the moment. Create a rule titled 'Making Wagers' with the following text: A Wager MAY be offered by any player by announcement. To be a valid the Wager announcement MUST contain the following: (a) A statement that is, or will become, true or false,

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CFJ 1825]

2007-12-09 Thread Levi Stephen
Ed Murphy wrote: pikhq wrote: Of these, I think that the requirement to transfer some other sort of Mark is the most equitable. Therefore, I make the following judgement: "Murphy SHALL transfer a mark of some color he possesses as soon as possible. To encourage em to do this, he MAY NOT do any

DIS: Re: OFF: [CFJ 1825]

2007-12-09 Thread Levi Stephen
Josiah Worcester wrote: I hereby inform the parties to the Green Mark Contract (H. Champions Murphy and Levi, insofar as I am aware) of the equity case 1825 concerning this contract. The contract, as far as I have been made aware of it, is: Levi, I agree to the following binding agreement if y

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: judicial status

2007-12-03 Thread Levi Stephen
comex wrote: On Monday 03 December 2007, Kerim Aydin wrote: TIYAEOTISIDTIDFTHPAFALT. This is why... Agora... hmm... I think I got it. This is yet another example of the I say I do therefore I do fallacy that has plagued agora for a long time. Levi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2007-12-02 Thread Levi Stephen
Josiah Worcester wrote: On Sunday 02 December 2007 16:54:55 Levi Stephen wrote: Josiah Worcester wrote: If Agora's Child was not a player before, the AFO announces the following: Agora's Child registers as a player. I'm not sure this achieves anything. I believe to register a

DIS: Re: BUS: Intent to amend AFO charter

2007-12-02 Thread Levi Stephen
Ed Murphy wrote: I intend, with the consent of all other partners, to amend the AFO charter by replacing clause 3 with this text: 3. The AFO may incur obligations, rights, and privileges under the rules of other nomics. The Partners may act on behalf of the AFO to satisfy such obligations and t

DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Amended Report

2007-11-30 Thread Levi Stephen
CHAMPION Andre, Blob, Chuck, Dave Bowen, elJefe, Elysion, favor, Garth, Goddess Eris, Goethe (twice), Goethe (by Paradox), Ian, Jeffrey, Kelly, KoJen, Michael, Morendil, Murphy (by Paradox), Oerjan, OscarMeyr (twice), root (twice), root (by paradox), Steve (t

Re: DIS: Re: [s-b] Proposal Withdrawal and Revision

2007-11-29 Thread Levi Stephen
Taral wrote: On 11/29/07, Josiah Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We surrendered? Not that I know of. :) Of course, we could make a proposal celebrating the surrender of B Nomic to Agora. Whether it happend or not is irrelavant ;) Levi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: VC spending

2007-11-28 Thread Levi Stephen
Ed Murphy wrote: Eris wrote: On 11/28/07, Levi Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I spend 2 Green VCs to gain 200 Green Marks I don't think this works. Correct. Again, voluntary conversion is one-way in the Marks -> VCs direction. Oops. Misread it from the assessors

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Scorekeepor result

2007-11-28 Thread Levi Stephen
Might be invalid, because you misspelled "decrease" Hmmm... is 'decreating' the AFO's VVLOP regulated? Might be a criminal CFJ :P Lev

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Scorekeepor result

2007-11-28 Thread Levi Stephen
Josiah Worcester wrote: On Wednesday 28 November 2007 19:22:25 Levi Stephen wrote: I resolve the decision on the holder of the Scorekeepor office: The votes are as follows WOOBLE: PIKHQ: pikhq, Murphy, AFO, root, zefram COMEX: Wooble FOOKIEMYARTUG: BobTHJ, Fookiemyartug, OscarMeyr The option

DIS: Re: BUS: More nominations

2007-11-23 Thread Levi Stephen
Ed Murphy wrote: I nominate pikhq and Wooble for Ambassador. Levi, any luck with the reports for IADoP and/or Herald? Working on IADoP report and elections etc., now. Goethe is now Herald I believe. Levi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Cleaning up after itself

2007-11-23 Thread Levi Stephen
Ed Murphy wrote: pikhq wrote: On Friday 23 November 2007 15:41:55 Ed Murphy wrote: The AFO retracts all CFJs that it called within the past 24 hours. Fortunately, the marks are still in existence. :) Unfortunately, I still have to process all the actions in comex's long message. :( Wou

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal - Consent doesn't perform the action

2007-11-18 Thread Levi Stephen
I'm liking Levi's permission-as-a-state idea, although I don't think that there's any reason that permissions should be assets...unless we go way overboard with it. :-) Liquid assets, no doubt. I had chosen Assets because permissions would share the concept of 'being owned' I guess. Each

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal - Consent doesn't perform the action

2007-11-18 Thread Levi Stephen
Ian Kelly wrote: On Nov 18, 2007 8:21 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Nov 18, 2007 6:51 PM, Levi Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks. I think CAN does better describe what I'm trying to achieve here. CAN isn't sufficient; there's still no mechanis

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ: Consent or not

2007-11-18 Thread Levi Stephen
Josiah Worcester wrote: On Sunday 18 November 2007 19:37:18 comex wrote: On Sunday 18 November 2007, Levi Stephen wrote: I CFJ on the following statements, requesting linked assignment, barring pikhq. Gratuitous arguments: http://cfj.qoid.us/1722 http://cfj.qoid.us/1714 I note that

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ: Consent or not

2007-11-18 Thread Levi Stephen
Levi Stephen wrote: I CFJ on the following statements, requesting linked assignment, barring pikhq. Actually, CotC Zefram, upon rereading, although they concern the same action, they seem to concern separate issues, so linked assignment does not seem appropriate. I'll trust your judg

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal - Consent doesn't perform the action

2007-11-18 Thread Levi Stephen
Ed Murphy wrote: comex wrote: On Sunday 18 November 2007, Levi Stephen wrote: (g) If the outcome is APPROVED, then the vote collector MUST perform the action as soon as possible after resolving the decision. add CAN Replace with CAN, actually. A player intending to perform a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Resolving "Chickens" Message

2007-11-18 Thread Levi Stephen
comex wrote: On Sunday 18 November 2007, Ian Kelly wrote: According to R1728, e already did: (g) If the outcome is APPROVED, then the vote collector performs the action upon resolving the decision. The fact that this action did not result in a physical message at the B Nomic pu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Urgent Actions

2007-11-18 Thread Levi Stephen
I intend with Agoran Consent to cause Agora to unconditionally surrender to B Nomic. I OBJECT Levi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Illegal Unloyalty

2007-11-16 Thread Levi Stephen
yable? But by then, it might be too late for the rule if that happend ;) On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, Levi Stephen wrote: I submit the following interested proposal with AI=1: {{{ Goethe is coauthor of this proposal. Create a rule with the following text and Power 1: A player MAY NOT initiate or enco

Re: DIS: Reinforcing the Rubicon

2007-11-16 Thread Levi Stephen
I'm not sure increasing quorum is the appropriate measure. I think Rule 2168 would just double the voting period. It would double, then still fail because quorum was impossible to achieve. Not perfect, I know! Least complex way I could find. Ah yes, it would work. I was thinking there was

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fuck.

2007-11-16 Thread Levi Stephen
by the way, I was serious about defining "traitor" as "anyone that is a member of another nomic who votes FOR or makes a proposal FOR hostile action against Agora." And punishing by deregistration. I like this sort of idea. Might be better to leave it to the judicial system to decide punish

Re: DIS: Reinforcing the Rubicon

2007-11-15 Thread Levi Stephen
Kerim Aydin wrote: --- Proto: Rubicon Enact a rule entitled "The Senate" with the following text and a power of 2: A Senator is any Player who has been registered continuously for the immediately preceding thirty d

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fuck.

2007-11-15 Thread Levi Stephen
Josiah Worcester wrote: On Thursday 15 November 2007 22:48:00 Kerim Aydin wrote: Could flooding work against Agora in its current state? It might be worth it to write a quick and dirty defensive proposal to get it distributed quickly. It's probably an overreaction but we can always vote it dow

DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5296-5302

2007-11-15 Thread Levi Stephen
NUM FL AI SUBMITTER TITLE 5296 O1 1.7 rootDecidable Undetermination 6xFOR 5297 D1 3Murphy root is a Cretan FOR 5298 O1 1Murphy More prerogatives 6xAGAINST 5299 D1 2Murphy Micropayments FOR 5300 O1 1Murphy No multiple MwP's 6x

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The AFO

2007-11-15 Thread Levi Stephen
comex wrote: On Thursday 15 November 2007, Josiah Worcester wrote: At the time, I was thinking that it could be useful in a scam against B Nomic. It would no longer be necessary to be in the AFO, but anyways. . . I would create several factions with me and the AFO, where I make all actions on be

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The AFO

2007-11-15 Thread Levi Stephen
comex wrote: On Thursday 15 November 2007, Levi Stephen wrote: I think, as defendant you don't need supporters, but I SUPPORT this. Levi Actually he hasn't even judged it yet (nttpf), so . Levi, you going to support or object to his attempt to join the AFO? Undecided so f

DIS: Re: BUS: Proving a point

2007-11-13 Thread Levi Stephen
Ed Murphy wrote: I agree to be bound by the following contract: 1) The name of this contest is Bake The Traitor. 2) The contestmaster of this contest is Murphy. 3) Any contestant other than comex who becomes a contestant ceases to be a contestant one second later. 4) The contestm

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Defense preparations?

2007-11-13 Thread Levi Stephen
Roger Hicks wrote: On Nov 13, 2007 6:47 PM, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tuesday 13 November 2007, Taral wrote: On Nov 13, 2007 5:30 PM, Levi Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I intend with Agoran consent to send the message "Chickens" to the bnomic-business mai

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Defense preparations?

2007-11-13 Thread Levi Stephen
comex wrote: On Tuesday 13 November 2007, Kerim Aydin wrote: Actually, the proposal in question is: B hereby declares war on Agora, bombing will commence in thirty minutes. submitted by comex. 1. Anyone have the patent title "traitor" handy? 2. Anyone want to pull the old guillotine rules

DIS: Re: OFF: null proposal distribution

2007-11-04 Thread Levi Stephen
Zefram wrote: There would normally be a proposal distribution at this time, but there are no proposals to distribute. Proposal ID numbers: highest orderly: 5286 disorderly: none Proposal pool: empty I had a proposal in the message http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Active MWPs

2007-10-29 Thread Levi Stephen
Ed Murphy wrote: Levi wrote: Change Rule 402 to read: The Speaker is the active player who has borne the Patent Title of Minister Without Portfolio the longest, with ties broken in favor of the player who has been registered the longest. You should also amend R1922(e) so th

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Active MWPs

2007-10-29 Thread Levi Stephen
Ed Murphy wrote: Zefram wrote: Levi Stephen wrote: If they're assigned Default Justice does this mean an inactive player is going to be required to be a member of the judicial panel? No. An inactive player, or a non-player, is categorically unqualified to judge. For that matter,

DIS: Prerogatives

2007-10-28 Thread Levi Stephen
comex wrote: On 10/28/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10/28/07, Levi Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Actually, I'm not sure this is the case. Speaker is the player who has held the title of Minister Without Portfolio the longest. So, I think Eris was Speaker

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: IADOP Report

2007-10-28 Thread Levi Stephen
Hmmm, I was probably meant to assign people to the prerogatives now that the proposal was adopted, but not being speaker since AFO's win, it's now eir reponsibility :) Levi Actually, I'm not sure this is the case. Speaker is the player who has held the title of Minister Without Portfolio t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Report stability

2007-10-28 Thread Levi Stephen
Ed Murphy wrote: Levi wrote: The IADoP's report includes the following: b) The stability of each office. Already covered by Rule 2162 (c). Thanks (and root also for your answer) I was looking for something like that, but was looking in the officer's reporting rules. Levi

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: IADOP Report

2007-10-28 Thread Levi Stephen
Ian Kelly wrote: On 10/28/07, Levi Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is someone responsible for tracking who the current Ministers Without Portfolio are and publishing this information? I can't see where this is in the rules. It's a patent title, so it's tracked by th

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: IADOP Report

2007-10-28 Thread Levi Stephen
On 10/27/07, Levi Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Office Holder Since Last R2154 Stability Speakerroot16 Sep 077 Sep 07 T With the adoption of "Minist

DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5254-5258

2007-10-10 Thread Levi Stephen
NUM FL AI SUBMITTER TITLE 5254 O1 1.5 AFO Resurrect the Notary PRESENT 5255 D1 2AFO Encourage contests AGAINST 5256 D1 2AFO Use it or lose it FOR 5257 D1 3AFO Ministers Without Portfolio PRESENT 5258 O1 1AFO Deregi

DIS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposal 5245

2007-10-02 Thread Levi Stephen
NUM FL AI SUBMITTER TITLE 5245 D1 3comex AGAINST Levi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Caveat suffragor

2007-09-26 Thread Levi Stephen
Ed Murphy wrote: Eris wrote: On 9/26/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: b) Any other votes are unprotected. The vote collector CAN invalidate or change an unprotected vote by announcement when e resolves the decision. Actually, I'm just tired of people

DIS: Re: BUS: Contract: Agoran Credit Union

2007-09-23 Thread Levi Stephen
Ed Murphy wrote: 6) As soon as possible after a member requests credit, the Bankor SHALL create in eir possession, for each color of VC in eir possession, minimum(100*X-Y,0) kopecks of that color, where X is the number of VCs of that color in eir possession, and Y is the number of ko

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1741: assign root

2007-09-20 Thread Levi Stephen
It is a dependent action, and it's true that as such there's an Agoran Decision initiated on which players can vote SUPPORT or OPPOSE. However, if the action can be done with 2 support, the result of the decision on whether to do it is APPROVED if there are 2 or more supports even if there are

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1741: assign root

2007-09-19 Thread Levi Stephen
Geoffrey Spear wrote: On 9/19/07, Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/18/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I intend, with 2 support, to call for the appeal of CFJ 1741. I vote OBJECT Not to the proper forum, but this would be ineffective in any case since an appeal can be brough

DIS: Proto: Shenanigans & contest fixes.

2007-08-29 Thread Levi Stephen
The purpose here is to provide a mechanism where unfair contests can be stopped. Not sure of the best wording to take points earned in a bad contest away from players and also to stop that contest. I have taken the approach here that the agreement that defines the contest still exists, but no

Re: DIS: Proto: Shenanigans & contest fixes.

2007-08-29 Thread Levi Stephen
comex wrote: On 8/29/07, Levi Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No points may be awarded by the contestmaster of a contest that is declared a Shenanigan. Ever? Well, I would assume, after the contest was declared a Shenanigan, they would remove themselves from that c

DIS: Proto: Contests open to all

2007-08-29 Thread Levi Stephen
Allow all First-class players to join contests as a minimum requirement. {{{ In Rule 2136 replace the following text: A contest is an agreement that identifies itself as such, and identifies exactly one party as its contestmaster; all other parties are its contestants. with:

DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Here and Gone Again: a Registrar's Report

2007-08-28 Thread Levi Stephen
Ian Kelly wrote: Here and Gone Again: a Registrar's Report Date of this Report: Tue 28 Aug 2007 Date of last Report: Sat 18 Aug 2007 Date last ratified : Tue 03 May 2005 Ratified Report: Thu 28 Apr 2005 (All times are in UTC. Precision in timing not guaranteed.) EVENT HISTORY 16 A

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711a: assign BobTHJ, comex, root

2007-08-27 Thread Levi Stephen
Ian Kelly wrote: On 8/27/07, Levi Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ian Kelly wrote: On 8/27/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/27/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Therefore, I intend to cause the panel to judge AFFIRM on the appeal of CFJ 1711. I also intend

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1711a: assign BobTHJ, comex, root

2007-08-27 Thread Levi Stephen
Ian Kelly wrote: On 8/27/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/27/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Therefore, I intend to cause the panel to judge AFFIRM on the appeal of CFJ 1711. I also intend to cause the panel to register. Panels are not persons and so cannot register. I consid

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