Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-13 Thread Steven Kenney
Interesting and great thread. Thanks for the info. Makes me wonder why these 4011's are so good. I wonder how the 1072 compares. -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.net (519)737-WAVE (9283) From: fiber...@mail.com To: "af" Se

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-13 Thread Steven Kenney
V7? Isn't that a fairy tale? :) -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.net (519)737-WAVE (9283) From: "af" To: "af" Cc: "Dennis Burgess" Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 10:51:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out I woul

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-13 Thread Steven Kenney
I ran some x86 mikrotik boxes in the past and the nics were indeed the issue we had. Which brand name fiber cards (sfp+ and higher) would you recommend that is 100% compatible with Mikrotik? Also running CHR in Vsphere also is an option. Anyone comment on that sort of performance? -- Stev

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-13 Thread Mike Hammett
https://mikrotik.com/download - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: fiber...@mail.com To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 12:09:30 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-13 Thread fiberrun
Mike, I'm sure you'll argue that ROS v7 exists for some values of "exists", but let's be honest, it doesn't exist for any practical values of exists. Jared       Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 From: "Mike Hammett" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-13 Thread Mike Hammett
It does not do BGP yet, no. It does not do ARM64 yet, no. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: fiber...@mail.com To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 7:56:27 AM Subject: R

[AFMUG] documenting underground marks

2020-05-13 Thread Chuck McCown
> >  > We strive to have video and photo evidence of marks before we start digging. > Sometimes we fail but most of the time when we hit something there is no > paint or flags. > I am wondering if a drone video would be better than our handheld > phone/camcorder footage? I have never used

Re: [AFMUG] documenting underground marks

2020-05-13 Thread Mike Hammett
Hrm, not a bad idea. quicker, better paint view. Do both! ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 8:08:07 AM Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] documenting underground marks

2020-05-13 Thread David Coudron
Chuck, I was just talking to a guy that uses a drone to fly construction sites. He uses a 4 MP camera and makes multiple passes. He stitches the video together with software. Each pixel in the resulting image is 1 centimeter. The construction company uses this as sort of an asbuilt. Th

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

2020-05-13 Thread Josh Luthman
Baltic seems to be the go to for x86 Mikrotik. He seems to always be on top of it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 3:13 PM Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > I will second the Baltic Networks Vengence 2 CHR. Has been

Re: [AFMUG] documenting underground marks

2020-05-13 Thread chuck
That sounds good. I would like to know if he has to be prexact on his altitudes and what kind of software he uses for the stitching. From: David Coudron Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 7:38 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting underground marks Chuck, I wa

[AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread chuck
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread Bill Prince
I would love if they still did the 7-day moving average. If you look at the logarithmic curve of total deaths, the curve is actually flattening. However, the linear curve is still rising. Since there is about a 2 to 2-1/2 hysteresis to the action/effect, we will kno

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread chuck
Well the local minima seems to be taking nice orderly steps down each week except for a couple weeks back where it stayed about the same. But the trends do not seem to be going up. So I will take that as a phase 1 win. Hopefully we are on the road to eradication. If the local minima steps con

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread Josh Luthman
Agreed. Looks to me like we also have a lot of positive tests during the week and weekdays are much smaller. We should be concerned about the overall picture, not the peaks and valleys. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 1

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread Steve Jones
Its all over. My mom sent me an Alex Jones video. I almost think matricide in some cases is the more humane solution The big question is whether or not that would be a covid related death and add to the graph On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 9:29 AM wrote: > Well the local minima seems to be taking nice

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread chuck
With curve fitting you have to consider things like simulated annealing and local minima. Lots of ways to project a trend, but peaks and valleys, especially periodic features like this are very good indicators. The stock market calls these “flags” and flags can make you rich. From: Josh Lut

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread Josh Luthman
Well yes but I'm not gambling on deaths from the corona. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 11:11 AM wrote: > With curve fitting you have to consider things like simulated annealing > and local minima. Lots of

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread Ken Hohhof
Your 14-18 days is optimistic IMHO, more likely 1-2 months. Get infected. Become contagious. Infect others. Show symptoms. Take a turn for the worse. Go into the hospital. Transferred to ICU. Put on ventilator. Linger for a month or more and probably don't recover. Die. That's more tha

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread chuck
No but the politicians are. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:14 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it? Well yes but I'm not gambling on deaths from the corona. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread Steve Jones
The problem with terms like exponential growth, is that theyre still used though they never came to fruition On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:15 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Your 14-18 days is optimistic IMHO, more likely 1-2 months. > > > > Get infected. Become contagious. Infect others. Show symptoms.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread Robert
The market is so high for the actual conditions of the economy right now, I wonder how it could zoom with the news of a successful vaccine.   That would be a very weird market boom... On 5/13/20 8:10 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: With curve fitting you have to consider things like simulated annea

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread chuck
It kinda did for the first half of the curve. From: Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:27 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it? The problem with terms like exponential growth, is that theyre still used though they never came to fruition O

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread chuck
I always confuse Fantasia – Dukas’ (The Sorcerer’s Apprentice) with Grieg’s In the hall of the Mountain King. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:14 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it? Your 14-18 days is optimistic IMHO, more like

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread James Howard
Plus the fact that the pool of uninfected people gets smaller every day (even if by a small amount). From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:27 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it? The prob

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread chuck
Utah 3.2M population 5% of the population tested (anyone can get tested on demand with very little waiting) 6432 cases so far. So that is .2% infection rate. 73 deaths so far. 1.1% death rate. 73/3.2M = .23 or .0022% 22 per million According to one source, your odds of being struck by l

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it? I have to put this in perspective for at least the state of Florida.  Starting in February, if you believed the reports, we were suppose to be the next NY.  We had spring break, we have an older population, we have Orlando, and we have a republican governo

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread Ken Hohhof
Chuck, I forget, did you buy Abbott stock? https://www.businessinsider.com/abbott-to-make-millions-antibody-tests-coronavirus-by-june-2020-4 From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:49 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread Steve Jones
I dont know if its the same now as prior, but towns like miami are similar to regions with malaria globally. The HIV infection rate is so high that there is a large component of the population already taking many of the current covid treatment meds. And if you buy into the water toxicity from expel

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread chuck
I did for a short while... no big run-up like I would have thought. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:54 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it? Chuck, I forget, did you buy Abbott stock? https://www.businessinsider.com/abbott-to-m

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread Bill Prince
Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it? The students who came to Florida did not interact with the the locals very much; especially the seniors in ALF and the like. They came down there, swapped viruses, and took their infections back home with them. Meanwhile, Flo

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread Ken Hohhof
Many people seem to assume they are not affected because their area is not New York or New Jersey or Chicago, and that the difference is that those people are different or live differently. To the extent this means dense population, mass transit, etc. this may be partly true. To the extent thi

Re: [AFMUG] documenting underground marks

2020-05-13 Thread Brian Webster
Thinking about altitudes and such, if you just always have something in view of the images that is a known size/dimensions you can scale any view/image from that. So long as your camera is on a gimbal mount and it’s shooting level, you don’t get measurement distortion from odd angles. There

Re: [AFMUG] documenting underground marks

2020-05-13 Thread chuck
Like to find something that can automatically adjust the scale by matching the same features on the edges of a bunch of images. I use a product, I think it comes with Windows, to stich now, but you better have the exact same scale before you start. It is pretty ugly if you don’t. From: Bria

Re: [AFMUG] OT Made me laugh

2020-05-13 Thread Ken Hohhof
Whatever his faults, I don’t think anyone was questioning his intelligence. From: AF On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 12:50 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Made me laugh Elon is stressed that he's not completing his mission to save ea

Re: [AFMUG] OT Made me laugh

2020-05-13 Thread Josh Luthman
For sure. You can be super damn lucky or not to get where he's at but you can't be dumb. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 2:00 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Whatever his faults, I don’t think anyone was questioning

Re: [AFMUG] OT Made me laugh

2020-05-13 Thread Josh Luthman
Did he also want to save humanity from inconvenient online payment transactions with Paypal...? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 1:51 PM Darin Steffl wrote: > Elon is stressed that he's not completing his mis

Re: [AFMUG] OT Made me laugh

2020-05-13 Thread Bill Prince
Depends on what you think of the big credit card companies. Interest rates on those are pretty crazy, and I know they impact low income people way more than high income people. bp On 5/13/2020 11:00 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] documenting underground marks

2020-05-13 Thread David Coudron
He had said he loads the flight plan into the drone before launching. So the horizontal path is prescribed for sure and I am guessing altitude is too. He did mention the name of the stitching software but I didn’t retain it at the time. I will find out. Might take a day or so. Get Outlook for

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread Robert Andrews
LENT! On 05/13/2020 11:16 AM, Harold Bledsoe wrote: I agree with your assessment as a fellow Florida man. ;-) https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html This is where the data comes from. It was created to track flu, but you can see there is a column for total deaths too. You can bre

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread Robert Andrews
No worries, I don't live in FLA so I'll just raise my SEP field and not worry about something far away that I probably won't visit for 2-3 years.But suppressing the ME's from talking isn't supposed to be what this country is about. It strikes me funny whenever I hear about one part of gov

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread Robert Andrews
It looks like, if you pull out the 15% plotted on a single day, they would look pretty similar? On 05/13/2020 11:57 AM, Harold Bledsoe wrote: Here's another example of why you need to be careful on how data is presented. Here is the deaths that WaPo shows (correctly labeled as "reported" alth

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread Robert Andrews
Maybe starlink is actually Musk's "Rod's from God" weapon. With a possible 64K of them, he can afford to start dropping them on snake/spider pits like that office... On 05/13/2020 12:17 PM, Steve Jones wrote: as long as those spiders stay in a cage youre fine and i dont have to drive to flor

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread Steve Jones
This amazes me. Not saying the media bais is presenting as patently false news, but this disease is apparently becoming self aware and leans left. Its learned to target based on where you live and who you vote for. https://www.salon.com/2020/05/12/leaked-white-house-data-shows-infections-spiking-mo

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread Robert Andrews
Ok so you keep wanting to politicize the discussion? How about that trump followers are the ones marching around meeting in groups without face masks because they need to show its their rights? And maybe just maybe the virus could give two swats of a cows tail about someones rights when it f

Re: [AFMUG] documenting underground marks

2020-05-13 Thread chuck
Thank you very much. From: David Coudron Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 12:25 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] documenting underground marks He had said he loads the flight plan into the drone before launching. So the horizontal path is prescribed for sure and I a

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread chuck
Guys, there has been a LENT request. Let's all drop it for now. Please. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 1:41 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it? Ok so you keep wanting to politicize the discussion? How about that tr

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread James Howard
So you're theory is that there's a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:00 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it? I dont know if its the same now as p

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread Carl Peterson
There shouldn't need to be a lent request. It is always lent. On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 2:45 PM wrote: > Guys, there has been a LENT request. Let's all drop it for now. Please. > > -Original Message- > From: Robert Andrews > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 1:41 PM > To: af@af.afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread Steve Jones
"News" "journalism" "integrity" "democracacy dies in darkness" On Wed, May 13, 2020, 2:41 PM Robert Andrews wrote: > Ok so you keep wanting to politicize the discussion? How about that > trump followers are the ones marching around meeting in groups without > face masks because they need to sho

[AFMUG] OT - patch Tuesday

2020-05-13 Thread Ken Hohhof
I saw there was an update yesterday when I shut down my laptop, didn't realize it was another biggy. At least there is still some news that has nothing to do with politics or pandemics. https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/05/microsoft-patch-tuesday-may-2020-edition / -- AF mailing list AF@af

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread Mike Black
3.2M population with 5% tested = 16 tested. 6432 cases out of 16 tested = 4% infection rate? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:49 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread Chuck Macenski
To calculate the infection rate of a specific population, you would need a statistically significant randomized sample of the target population. Given the testing regimen where people either self-select, take multiple tests, or are symptomatic, I am not really sure what conclusions you can draw. O

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread Steve Jones
you can draw that the rate of infection is probably lower than current statistics show. Its just like cnn or fox taking a poll of their viewers. all results will be skewed toward the intended answer, same here, the intended outcome is keeping the rates up, but like those polls, history will show th

Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?

2020-05-13 Thread chuck
No. You cannot assume any of the cases were even tested out of the 16 number. There could have been 5000 cases before testing even started. From: Mike Black Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 3:27 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it? 3.2M popul

[AFMUG] masks

2020-05-13 Thread Robert
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Caldo de Albondigas

2020-05-13 Thread Ken Hohhof
Albondigas sounds much yummier than meatballs. Alboondigas! From: AF On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 6:14 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Caldo de Albondigas Meatball soup...yum yum -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Caldo de Albondigas

2020-05-13 Thread Jaime Solorza
Claro que si mi buen Ken On Wed, May 13, 2020, 5:46 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Albondigas sounds much yummier than meatballs. > > Alboondigas! > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 13, 2020 6:14 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:*