This amazes me. Not saying the media bais is presenting as patently false
news, but this disease is apparently becoming self aware and leans left.
Its learned to target based on where you live and who you vote for.
https://www.salon.com/2020/05/12/leaked-white-house-data-shows-infections-spiking-more-than-1000-in-rural-areas-that-backed-trump/
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 2:20 PM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com
<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:
It looks like, if you pull out the 15% plotted on a single day, they
would look pretty similar?
On 05/13/2020 11:57 AM, Harold Bledsoe wrote:
> Here's another example of why you need to be careful on how data is
> presented. Here is the deaths that WaPo shows (correctly labeled
as
> "reported" although I'm not sure how many people notice that):
>
> Screen Shot 2020-05-13 at 1.54.32 PM.png
>
> And here is the same data as reported on the state of CO website
which
> is based on date of death instead of date reported:
>
> Screen Shot 2020-05-13 at 1.44.11 PM.png
>
> These 2 graphs are fairly different in shape I'd say.
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 1:33 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies
> <m...@mailmt.com <mailto:m...@mailmt.com> <mailto:m...@mailmt.com
<mailto:m...@mailmt.com>>> wrote:
>
> Robert,
>
> That is BS. Don't even get me started on national media. This
> website has been running since the beginning of the year
>
>
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429
>
> Two things to keep in mind with Florida. If you look at
> worldometers site some days you'll see FL jump by 100+
cases. That
> doesn't mean FL had those deaths on that day. It was just
reported
> on that day. The arcis site is more accurate with the daily
count,
> being they will go back and adjust the data based on actual
death
> day and not reported day. Big difference with the graph.
>
> As for the media games and stories with FL not reporting,
there is
> an issue with counting deaths. The total numbers from all the
ME
> offices were about 10% higher than what the state was
officially
> reporting. Not sure why, they are thinking maybe double
counts.
> Died in different county than register as resident. Counted
in both
> counties. The state decided that they would be the ones to
report
> the official numbers and asked the ME to not make their numbers
> public. They are still collecting the data, but just not
reporting it.
>
> I really don't understand why this has become such a big deal
with
> the media. 10% or even 20% doesn't really change much in the
> overall numbers. The national media is always getting things
wrong
> about FL. Hurricanes wiping out the whole state, pythons
falling
> out of trees, gators attacking people everyday, etc.
>
> Once again, I feel things have been handled well down here. I
won't
> go as far as saying the government is responsible for how well
we
> are doing. I'm going mostly with environment and luck. Things
are
> starting to open up, so we'll see what happens in the next few
> months. The true test will be once the Orlando area opens up.
>
>
>
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>
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> Wednesday, May 13, 2020, 1:26:05 PM, you wrote:
>
>
> FL was not releasing Covid numbers till last week, was in the
> national news...
>
> On 5/13/20 10:14 AM, Harold Bledsoe wrote:
>
> Here are deaths in FL for weeks 1-17 for 2020 vs 2018:
>
>
>
> If you sum it up, there are 272 more total deaths during this
time
> period in FL in 2020 than in 2018.
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:50 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies
> <m...@mailmt.com <mailto:m...@mailmt.com>
<mailto:m...@mailmt.com <mailto:m...@mailmt.com>>> wrote:
>
> I have to put this in perspective for at least the state of
> Florida. Starting in February, if you believed the reports,
we were
> suppose to be the next NY. We had spring break, we have an
older
> population, we have Orlando, and we have a republican
governor. Our
> hospitals were suppose to be over run and turning people away.
A
> republican governor by default is incompetent, so things were
going
> to get out of hand quickly.
>
> Where are we today? 1827 deaths. That is only about 2% of
the total
> deaths in the US. To dig even deeper, in 2017 (last year I can
> easily get) FL had 203,353 deaths for the year. That comes
out to
> about 50,838 deaths per quarter. Assuming the 1827 is off by
20%
> due to under reporting (bit of a pissing match going on with
state
> and ME's) that gives us about 2200 COVID-19 deaths. Assuming
there
> is no overlap between COVID-19 and normal deaths we get an
increase
> of about 4% of deaths over 2017 deaths.
>
> That 4% is most likely closer to 1% over 2019 being there is a
> natural increase of about 1% - 2% per year on number of deaths
in
> FL. Not to mention the overlap of people who died of
COVID-19 that
> would have died of something else anyway.
>
> We have almost 600,000 tests with only about a 7% positive
rate. I
> find that number very surprising being we are reportedly only
> testing the worst of the worst.
>
> The question is, why are we doing so well? Is it the
government,
> the people, the environment, pure dumb luck, or a combination?
>
>
> I for one am very happy with the FL results so far and see no
reason
> not to start opening the state.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com <mailto:m...@mailmt.com>
>
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> Wednesday, May 13, 2020, 11:03:56 AM, you wrote:
>
>
> Its all over. My mom sent me an Alex Jones video. I almost
think
> matricide in some cases is the more humane solution The big
question
> is whether or not that would be a covid related death and add
to the
> graph
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 9:29 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>> wrote:
>
> Well the local minima seems to be taking nice orderly steps
down
> each week except for a couple weeks back where it stayed
about the same.
> But the trends do not seem to be going up. So I will take
that as a
> phase 1 win. Hopefully we are on the road to eradication. If
the
> local minima steps continue on the same trend, it looks like
they
> will hit the bottom in a month.... one month to go... I think
I
> have said that several times over the past few months...
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 13, 2020 8:14 AM
> *To: *af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Do I dare jinx it?
>
> I would love if they still did the 7-day moving average. If
you look
> at the logarithmic curve of total deaths, the curve is actually
> flattening. However, the linear curve is still rising.
> Since there is about a 2 to 2-1/2 hysteresis to the
action/effect,
> we will know more sometime between May 24 and May 30. Much of
the
> country is "opening up" around May 10, so if that negatively
impacts
> the death rate, we won't really know about it for 14-18 days.
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 5/13/2020 7:06 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
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