Re: [SAtalk] DCC, pyzor, razor

2004-01-22 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, David Roback wrote: > We are currently using SA without DCC, pyzor or razor and have a > detection rate of about 75-90% (but getting slightly better as we feed > bayes). > > What improvement could we expect by implementing one (or all) of the above? With DCC & razor you would

[SAtalk] DCC, pyzor, razor

2004-01-22 Thread David Roback
Hi, We are currently using SA without DCC, pyzor or razor and have a detection rate of about 75-90% (but getting slightly better as we feed bayes). What improvement could we expect by implementing one (or all) of the above? What kind of processing delays are there for each? If we were to implem

Re: [SAtalk] DCC efficiency

2004-01-09 Thread Alex S Moore
On Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:13:09 -0800 "Russell Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From the DCC FAQ: > --- > Can the DCC be used with SpamAssassin or other spam filters? > The DCC can be used with SpamAssassin as well as other spam > and virus filters. Note that

[SAtalk] DCC efficiency

2004-01-09 Thread Russell Mann
>From the DCC FAQ: --- Can the DCC be used with SpamAssassin or other spam filters? The DCC can be used with SpamAssassin as well as other spam and virus filters. Note that it is more efficient to arrange to use a DCC client daemon such as dccm to m

Re: [SAtalk] DCC, Razor rbl checks only when necessary?

2003-12-15 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Robert, Sunday, December 14, 2003, 11:25:06 PM, you wrote: RN> ie. is there a way to conditionally do those offsite checks only if RN> they are necessary? RN> ie. my current score is less than required_hits? You might want a variation on my mechanism. I'm stuck with user_prefs here, and d

Re: [SAtalk] DCC, Razor rbl checks only when necessary?

2003-12-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:25 AM 12/15/2003, Robert Nicholson wrote: I'm just curious in what order does eval_tests execute the tests? Specifically are the offsite clearing houses only contacted whenever my current score is less than required_hits? no, they are always run whenever they are enabled ie. is there a way

Re: [SAtalk] DCC ? Vipul's Razor? skip_rbl_checks?

2003-12-15 Thread Jeff Lasman
On Monday 15 December 2003 12:06 am, Bill Landry wrote: > Did you install the Razor, DCC, and Pyzor modules? I actually didn't install anything; the install came from DirectAdmin. I'll be in touch with them to see if there's any reason why they did it the way they did and/or if I can install t

Re: [SAtalk] DCC ? Vipul's Razor? skip_rbl_checks?

2003-12-15 Thread Bill Landry
. Bill - Original Message - From: "Jeff Lasman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 11:11 PM Subject: [SAtalk] DCC ? Vipul's Razor? skip_rbl_checks? > I'm using spamassassin version 2.55 with Exim version 4.24, as

[SAtalk] DCC, Razor rbl checks only when necessary?

2003-12-15 Thread Robert Nicholson
I'm just curious in what order does eval_tests execute the tests? Specifically are the offsite clearing houses only contacted whenever my current score is less than required_hits? ie. is there a way to conditionally do those offsite checks only if they are necessary? ie. my current score is less

[SAtalk] DCC ? Vipul's Razor? skip_rbl_checks?

2003-12-15 Thread Jeff Lasman
I'm using spamassassin version 2.55 with Exim version 4.24, as supplied by the hosting control panel people at DirectAdmin (http://www.directadmin.com/). My spamassassin config file at /etc/mail/local.cf has these lines: # Enable or disable network checks skip_rbl_checks 0 use_razor2

RE: [SAtalk] DCC incidence

2003-12-01 Thread Kai Risku
> Can anyone please tell me generally how frenquently they're > DCC is hitting with SA? A quick grep from last month's logfile reveals DCC hits on 3248 emails out of 4365 quarantined => a good 74% -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM +358-40-767 8282 Oy Arrak Software Ab http://www.arrak.fi ---

Re: [SAtalk] DCC incidence

2003-11-30 Thread Aaron Young
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Bryan Hoover wrote: > Can anyone please tell me generally how frenquently they're DCC is > hitting with SA? DCC is working fine for me. I have three spams out of eight that arrived in the last 30 minutes that have a DCC match. --

Re: [SAtalk] DCC incidence

2003-11-29 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Bryan Hoover wrote: > Can anyone please tell me generally how frenquently they're DCC is > hitting with SA? Well I just cleaned out my probably-spam folder a few minutes ago, but out of 23 in there now, 13 hit DCC_CHECK ==

Re: [SAtalk] DCC incidence

2003-11-29 Thread Bryan Hoover
Clive Dove wrote: > > > I have observed that both Pyzor and Razor are working as they show up in > > the caught spam, but there is no sign that any of the other database checks > > are being run. > > > > How do I enable these features? Are their applications that have to be > > installed? There'

Re: [SAtalk] DCC incidence

2003-11-29 Thread Bryan Hoover
Clive Dove wrote: > > On Saturday 29 November 2003 18:53, Bryan Hoover wrote: > I noticed the same thing. I have come to the conclusion that DCC and RBL > checking are not working in Spamassassin 2.60 and I wondered if there was > something additional tha had to be done. Mm. I've seen no proble

Re: [SAtalk] DCC incidence

2003-11-29 Thread Clive Dove
On Saturday 29 November 2003 18:53, Bryan Hoover wrote: > Can anyone please tell me generally how frenquently they're DCC is > hitting with SA? > > I installed for single user client yesterday, and aside from a run with > the sample-spam.txt file, I've seen no dcc check hits in caught spam SA > mar

[SAtalk] DCC incidence

2003-11-29 Thread Bryan Hoover
Can anyone please tell me generally how frenquently they're DCC is hitting with SA? I installed for single user client yesterday, and aside from a run with the sample-spam.txt file, I've seen no dcc check hits in caught spam SA markup (out of my usual 300 or so spam/24 hours). The dcc install s

Re: [SAtalk] DCC and Pyzor Problems

2003-11-20 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Josh Dayberry wrote: > I would appreciate any help that can be offered to me. I was using spamd and spamc, > and everything was working fine. For some reason I upgraded spamassassin to the > newest version and now spamd and spamc won't run the dcc and pyzor tests. If I us

[SAtalk] DCC and Pyzor

2003-11-20 Thread Josh Dayberry
I would appreciate any help that can be offered to me.  I was using spamd and spamc, and everything was working fine.  For some reason I upgraded spamassassin to the newest version and now spamd and spamc won't run the dcc and pyzor tests.  If I use spamassassin however the tests are run cor

[SAtalk] DCC and Pyzor Problems

2003-11-20 Thread Josh Dayberry
I would appreciate any help that can be offered to me.  I was using spamd and spamc, and everything was working fine.  For some reason I upgraded spamassassin to the newest version and now spamd and spamc won't run the dcc and pyzor tests.  If I use spamassassin however the tests are run cor

Re: [SAtalk] DCC/Razor/RBLs

2003-11-17 Thread Matthias Fuhrmann
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Josh Endries wrote: [...] > Razor, Pyzor, and DCC are different or separate from using RBLs. If so, > what list(s) does SA check? have a look at: .../share/spamassassin/20_dnsbl_tests.cf > Now for the main course. DCC has a few different ways of running: > milter, daemon, pr

[SAtalk] DCC/Razor/RBLs

2003-11-17 Thread Josh Endries
I'm looking into testing Razor and/or DCC and have a few questions I can't seem to get answers to from the docs (sorry if I missed them). before I get to that I just want to clarify that using systems like Razor, Pyzor, and DCC are different or separate from using RBLs. If so, what list(s) does

[SAtalk] DCC question

2003-10-23 Thread Jim Knuth
Hallo und guten Tag SA-List, I never seem to get DCC hits, even though I should. Why? I have read the faq and make the test: spamassassin -tD < spam.txt This test give an output with dcc-header. But in the "normal" use is nothing to seen. --snip X-Spam-DCC: : --snap How must I use the dcc? --

Re: [SAtalk] dcc returns letters not numbers. docs say to limit # 's

2003-10-22 Thread Arlo Gilbert
: Monday, October 20, 2003 4:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] dcc returns letters not numbers. docs say to limit #'s I'm hopeful that somebody can explain the dcc results to me. i understand the concept of dcc, however spamassassin docs say that you should set limits that a

RE: [SAtalk] dcc returns letters not numbers. docs say to limit # 's

2003-10-22 Thread Larry Gilson
Hi Arlo, > -Original Message- > From: Arlo Gilbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 8:48 AM > To: Larry Gilson > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] dcc returns letters not numbers. docs > say to limit # 's >

[SAtalk] DCC won't work in spamd-deamon mode, but in spamd-debug mode

2003-10-22 Thread Robert Krüger
Hi List, It seems that I have the same problem that Marco Calistri described a couple of days ago in his posting "[SAtalk] My first question here[SA & DCC]" (message-id:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). I installed DCC and enabled it in my conf, with a timeout of 15 seconds. I used my config for about a mon

RE: [SAtalk] dcc returns letters not numbers. docs say to limit # 's

2003-10-22 Thread Larry Gilson
Hi Arlo, > -Original Message- > From: Arlo Gilbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 4:58 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] dcc returns letters not numbers. docs say > to limit #'s > > > I'm hopeful that someb

[SAtalk] dcc returns letters not numbers. docs say to limit #'s

2003-10-21 Thread Arlo Gilbert
I'm hopeful that somebody can explain the dcc results to me. i understand the concept of dcc, however spamassassin docs say that you should set limits that are numeric. eg. so that dcc doesnt give false positives. upon looking at the headers however, i see the following: X-Spam-DCC: SINE

Re: [SAtalk] DCC question

2003-10-08 Thread Jim Knuth
Hallo VonEssen, John, am Mittwoch, 8. Oktober 2003, 20:09:39, schriebst Du: > 3. Run /your/path/to/cdcc 'info' and make sure it returns a list of this is the result: # 10/08/03 20:45:13 CEST /var/dcc/map # Re-resolve names after 22:19:23 # 196.24 ms threshold, 168.70 ms average12 total, 11

Re: [SAtalk] DCC question

2003-10-08 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:12 PM 10/8/2003, Jim Knuth wrote: I wont to know, why DCC not working. I`ve just installed on my system. ( Debian 3.0 ) The output is: You won't be able to tell anything about DCC by looking at message headers. It could just be that the message in question was listed in razor and pyzor, but

Re: [SAtalk] DCC question

2003-10-08 Thread Jim Knuth
Hallo Matt Kettler, am Mittwoch, 8. Oktober 2003, 20:13:24, schriebst Du: > At 01:12 PM 10/8/2003, Jim Knuth wrote: >> >>I wont to know, why DCC not working. >>I`ve just installed on my system. ( Debian 3.0 ) >>The output is: > You won't be able to tell anything about DCC by looking at message h

RE: [SAtalk] DCC question

2003-10-08 Thread VonEssen, John
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 1:13 PM To: SA-List Subject: [SAtalk] DCC question Hallo , I wont to know, why DCC not working. I`ve just installed on my system. ( Debian 3.0 ) The output is: X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-e

[SAtalk] DCC question

2003-10-08 Thread Jim Knuth
Hallo , I wont to know, why DCC not working. I`ve just installed on my system. ( Debian 3.0 ) The output is: X-Spam-Flag: YES X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) X-Spam-Pyzor: Reported 11 times. X-Spam-DCC: : X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: Yes, h

[SAtalk] DCC timeout not working with spamd 2.55

2003-10-01 Thread brandon pearson (BITS)
Hi, I am having a problem with spamd 2.55 and DCC timeout. I have set DCC timeout to 5 seconds and if it times out I would expect no value to be returned for the DCC test. However when DCC times out I appear to be getting the default values for the DCC test which where set when spamd initialis

RE: [SAtalk] DCC stopping this list?

2003-08-14 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:59 AM 8/4/03 -0600, Chris Blaise wrote: You could say the same about SpamAssassin itself. Without a whitelist, it could catch messages based on its rules just as easily as someone maliciously checksumming every message in the list for DCC. True, although it is the policy of SpamAssas

Re: [SAtalk] DCC stopping this list?

2003-08-14 Thread Nix
On Thu, 07 Aug 2003, Harley Peters uttered the following: > Nix wrote: >> On Mon, 04 Aug 2003, Harley Peters spake: >> >>>The default setup of DCC is to report all mail (automaticaly) to the DCC servers. >>>You have to whitelist any mailing list that you receive in order to prevent them >>>from be

Re: [SAtalk] DCC stopping this list?

2003-08-14 Thread Harley Peters
Nix wrote: On Mon, 04 Aug 2003, Harley Peters spake: The default setup of DCC is to report all mail (automaticaly) to the DCC servers. You have to whitelist any mailing list that you receive in order to prevent them from being reported. ... and it's kind of hard to see why you'd want to do that

Re: [SAtalk] DCC stopping this list?

2003-08-10 Thread Nix
On Mon, 04 Aug 2003, Harley Peters spake: > The default setup of DCC is to report all mail (automaticaly) to the DCC servers. > You have to whitelist any mailing list that you receive in order to prevent them > from being reported. ... and it's kind of hard to see why you'd want to do that. After

Re: [SAtalk] DCC stopping this list?

2003-08-10 Thread Vivek Khera
> "CB" == Chris Blaise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> The default setup of DCC is to report all mail (automaticaly) >> to the DCC >> servers. >> You have to whitelist any mailing list that you receive in order to >> prevent them from being reported. CB> Wait a minute, I don't think tha

RE: [SAtalk] DCC stopping this list?

2003-08-08 Thread Chris Blaise
> The default setup of DCC is to report all mail (automaticaly) > to the DCC > servers. > You have to whitelist any mailing list that you receive in order to > prevent them from being reported. Wait a minute, I don't think that's true. By default DCC is a client only and you can poll a

Re: [SAtalk] DCC stopping this list?

2003-08-07 Thread Michael W. Cocke
On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 10:51:07 +1200, you wrote: Now you're double posting. 8-)> >>Second, I took DCC back out of my configuration and the messages >>stopped bouncing. I trust that ends that argument? > >Well, not really :) I don't think the real problem has been isolated. > >First, SA doe

Re: [SAtalk] DCC stopping this list?

2003-08-07 Thread Harley Peters
Nix wrote: It turns it into a `things explicitly reported as spam get marked as spam' system, like Razor. This is the only safe method for people who run legitimate mailing lists through SA, I'd say. Well I looked at a lot of examples from people who called DCC directly from procmail. And they ge

Re: [SAtalk] DCC stopping this list?

2003-08-06 Thread Nix
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Chris Blaise spake: > Wait a minute, I don't think that's true. By default DCC is a > client only and you can poll any of the publically available servers. > I'm pretty sure you need to get permission from another DCC to actually > submit data. Well, I'm submitting to dc

[SAtalk] DCC Settings and Error and Pyzor Error

2003-08-06 Thread Chris Hallgren
I am having problems using SpamAssassin 2.55 and DCC 1.0.4 My settings in /etc/mail/spamassassin/local/cf are use_dcc 1 dcc_add_header 1 dcc_path /usr/local/bin/dccproc dcc_options "-h /var/dcc -m /var/dcc/map" dcc_timeout 10 dcc_body_max 99 dcc_fuz1_max 99 dcc_fuz2_max 99

Re: [SAtalk] DCC stopping this list?

2003-08-04 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 08:23 4/08/2003 -0400, Michael W. Cocke wrote: First of all, I apologize for the multi-post - it took me a while to realize that messages from this list were being bounced, so when I didn't see my message come back in, I assumed that something had gone wrong with the send. Second, I took DCC b

RE: [SAtalk] DCC stopping this list?

2003-08-04 Thread Chris Blaise
> Personaly, based on their policies, I'm bewildered why anyone > would ever use DCC in the first place on a "general purpose" type mail > account. I could see it being pretty useful on an account that subscribes to no > mailing lists (commercial or conversational). That said, I'm > certainly n

Re: [SAtalk] DCC stopping this list?

2003-08-04 Thread Harley Peters
Simon Byrnand wrote: At 21:06 3/08/2003 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Simon Byrnand wrote: > Why would anyone submit the SA list to DCC ? The only people receiving the > SA list should be people who subscribed to it, and would have no reason to > go submitting it to DCC, so I don't follow your reason

Re: [SAtalk] DCC stopping this list?

2003-08-04 Thread Matt Kettler
At 05:02 PM 8/4/03 +1200, you wrote: I think you're missing my point. I never said DCC wasn't about bulk mail. However I question your premise that anyone would *knowingly* submit a mailing list that they *deliberately* subscribed to, to a bulk detector like DCC. If they did, they're just being

Re: [SAtalk] DCC stopping this list?

2003-08-04 Thread Michael W. Cocke
On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 13:21:23 +1200, you wrote: >At 11:57 3/08/2003 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: >>Please, one posting of the same message is enough. >> >>Michael W. Cocke wrote: >> > Has anyone who uses DCC had problems with it stopping this mailing >> > list? >> >>DCC does not stop any mail. It only

Re: [SAtalk] DCC stopping this list?

2003-08-03 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 21:06 3/08/2003 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Simon Byrnand wrote: > Why would anyone submit the SA list to DCC ? The only people receiving the > SA list should be people who subscribed to it, and would have no reason to > go submitting it to DCC, so I don't follow your reasoning... I don't know how

Re: [SAtalk] DCC stopping this list?

2003-08-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Simon Byrnand wrote: > Why would anyone submit the SA list to DCC ? The only people receiving the > SA list should be people who subscribed to it, and would have no reason to > go submitting it to DCC, so I don't follow your reasoning... I don't know how to make this sound less quib than just by

Re: [SAtalk] DCC stopping this list?

2003-08-03 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 11:57 3/08/2003 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Please, one posting of the same message is enough. Michael W. Cocke wrote: > Has anyone who uses DCC had problems with it stopping this mailing > list? DCC does not stop any mail. It only lists email which other people received thereby rendering a rulin

Re: [SAtalk] DCC stopping this list?

2003-08-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Please, one posting of the same message is enough. Michael W. Cocke wrote: > Has anyone who uses DCC had problems with it stopping this mailing > list? DCC does not stop any mail. It only lists email which other people received thereby rendering a ruling on the "bulk" aspect of it. All you know

Re: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-08-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Chris Blaise wrote: > I only use DCC but in my experience, I've never heard of it > rating non-spam bulk mail that I or anyone at my company has ever cared > about; it's always been spam. As a result I push the score way up at > 10. Just remember that DCC makes no claims about "spam"iness o

[SAtalk] DCC stopping this list?

2003-08-02 Thread Michael W. Cocke
Has anyone who uses DCC had problems with it stopping this mailing list? Mike- If you're not confused, you're not trying hard enough. Please note - Due to the intense volume of spam, we have installed site-wide spam filters at catherders.com.

[SAtalk] DCC stopping this list?

2003-08-02 Thread Michael W. Cocke
Has anyone who uses DCC had problems with it stopping this mailing list? Mike- If you're not confused, you're not trying hard enough. Please note - Due to the intense volume of spam, we have installed site-wide spam filters at catherders.com.

RE: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-08-01 Thread Chris Blaise
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Gilson, Larry > > Would anyone else like to comment on the effectiveness of > each check and where they think it they are weak and strong. > Also, what scores you give for each specific check? I only use DCC but in m

RE: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-08-01 Thread Kelson Vibber
"Matthew Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Pyzor bills itself as "a Python implementation of Razor," so I see no reason to use both Razor and Pyzor. Not exactly. According to pyzor.sourceforge.net: Pyzor initially *started out to be* merely a Python implementation of

RE: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-08-01 Thread Gilson, Larry
Hey Matt, Thanks for the lengthy reply. You gave me more than I was looking for and it is very much appreciated! Would anyone else like to comment on the effectiveness of each check and where they think it they are weak and strong. Also, what scores you give for each specific check? Thanks aga

[SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-08-01 Thread Larry Gilson
Hey Matt, Thanks for the lengthy reply. You gave me more than I was looking for and it is very much appreciated! Would anyone else like to comment on the effectiveness of each check and where they think it they are weak and strong. Also, what scores you give for each specific check? Thanks aga

RE: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-07-31 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:16 PM 7/31/03 -0400, Larry Gilson wrote: Have these statistics been fairly true over time or do they fluctuate? It seems that the statistics are point-in-time numbers that tell more about the reported spam rather than the effectiveness of the specific check. While the corpus of messages fe

RE: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-07-31 Thread Larry Gilson
> -Original Message- > From: Matt Kettler > from SA 2.55's rules/STATISTICS-set1.txt > > OVERALL% SPAM% HAM% S/ORANK SCORE NAME > 27.427 51.2148 0.16580.997 1.002.06 RAZOR2_CHECK > 13.201 24.7144 0.00741.000 0.974.40 PYZOR_CHECK >6.254

RE: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-07-31 Thread Ed Kasky
nal Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Kettler Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 3:42 PM To: Clay Atkins; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor At 01:45 PM 7/31/2003 -0500, Clay Atkins wrote: >Any thoughts on which of these is

RE: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-07-31 Thread Matt Kettler
At 07:33 PM 7/31/2003 -0400, Sanjay K. Patel wrote: How can someone generate this report on the their local copy of spamassassin? It's not generated by your local copy.. Those statistics are included as a part of the SA distribution. They are the rule hit-rate statistics from the corpus that was

RE: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-07-31 Thread Sanjay K. Patel
How can someone generate this report on the their local copy of spamassassin? -SKP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Kettler Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 3:42 PM To: Clay Atkins; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2

RE: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-07-31 Thread Benjamin Tomhave
> On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 14:45, Clay Atkins wrote: > > Any thoughts on which of these is better, none, or a combination of > > them? > > > > Ya know, that would be a good topic for a poll at the SA news site. > It would be a good topic for the FAQ, too, since this questions seems to arise almost eve

Re: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-07-31 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:45 PM 7/31/2003 -0500, Clay Atkins wrote: Any thoughts on which of these is better, none, or a combination of them? The STATISTICS*.txt files that come with spamassassin will speak much more definitively about the accuracy of these tools than any human on this list can. from SA 2.55's rules

Re: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-07-31 Thread AltGrendel
On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 14:45, Clay Atkins wrote: > Any thoughts on which of these is better, none, or a combination of > them? > Ya know, that would be a good topic for a poll at the SA news site. -- AltGrendel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- This

RE: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-07-31 Thread Matthew Thomas
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Clay Atkins > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 11:45 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor > > > Any thoughts on which of these is bet

[SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-07-31 Thread Clay Atkins
Any thoughts on which of these is better, none, or a combination of them? --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to w

RE: [SAtalk] dcc

2003-07-31 Thread Ben M. VanWagner
I prefer fairly easy method of turning on timelog and then I grep for DCC from those files. -Original Message- From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 9:54 AM To: Sanjay K. Patel; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] dcc At 07:28 AM 7/31/03 -0400

Re: [SAtalk] dcc

2003-07-31 Thread Matt Kettler
At 07:28 AM 7/31/03 -0400, Sanjay K. Patel wrote: How can I verify that spamassassin is using dcc? When I do cdcc info I do get a response but this is no guarantee that spamassassin is using dcc. I call spamassassin through MailScanner I usually test my Mailscanner's setup using the spamassassin co

[SAtalk] dcc

2003-07-31 Thread Sanjay K. Patel
How can I verify that spamassassin is using dcc? When I do cdcc info I do get a response but this is no guarantee that spamassassin is using dcc. I call spamassassin through MailScanner SKP --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built AS

[SAtalk] Dcc and dccm

2003-07-29 Thread sa
I have followed instructions (I think) to install dcc and dccm. But when I try to run dccm I get the following error. DCC: cannot start dccm because it has not been installed Also when I start sendmail I get the following error incoming sendmail: WARNING: Xdcc: local socket name @dcc_rundir@/dccm

[SAtalk] Dcc and dccm

2003-07-29 Thread Sanjay K. Patel
I have followed instructions (I think) to install dcc and dccm. But when I try to run dccm I get the following error. DCC: cannot start dccm because it has not been installed Also when I start sendmail I get the following error incoming sendmail: WARNING: Xdcc: local socket name @dcc_rundir@/dccm

RE: [SAtalk] dcc and rbl checks not working....

2003-07-01 Thread Steven Rocha
See the FAQ on roaringpenguin.com... it covers this specifically. Steve -Original Message- From: VonEssen, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 7/1/2003 3:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: [SAtalk] dcc and rbl checks not

Re: [SAtalk] dcc and rbl checks not working....

2003-07-01 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 04:33:32PM -0400, VonEssen, John wrote: > tests to work. One thing to note, I am using MIMEDefang, so the > spamassassin -D -r is not applicable. well, you don't want to use -r, but it's completely applicable. if it works as 'spamassassin -D', but not mimedefang, then your

[SAtalk] dcc and rbl checks not working....

2003-07-01 Thread VonEssen, John
Even though everything is installed, I have never seen a piece of Spam that has an rbl or dcc check in its list of performed tests. cdcc and dccproc are installed, and cdcc 'info' returns valid info. Net::DNS is installed. The only thing that might be an issue is my firewall, but I have open TCP/

Re: [SAtalk] DCC Source

2003-06-25 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:37 PM 6/25/03 -0400, Scott Rothgaber wrote: For some reason, I am unable to connect to `calcite.rhyolite.com' via HTTP. Is there a way to fetch the DCC tarball via FTP? Is there an alternate site? Thanks! Scott From the rhyolite.com dcc web-page: "The DCC source and documentation is avail

[SAtalk] DCC Source

2003-06-25 Thread Scott Rothgaber
For some reason, I am unable to connect to `calcite.rhyolite.com' via HTTP. Is there a way to fetch the DCC tarball via FTP? Is there an alternate site? Thanks! Scott --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU Attention Web Developers & Con

[SAtalk] DCC use with SA?

2003-06-18 Thread Jim Ford
Hi, I've installed dcc_proc as per the spamassassin readme and I get a response from various servers when I do cdcc 'info'. To get it to work with SA, do I just put use_dcc 1 in my user_prefs? How will I tell if it's working OK? I guess the answer's somewhere in the DCC docs, but there's a lot of

Re: [SAtalk] DCC

2003-01-10 Thread Shane Hickey
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 11:23, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > Do you also have a recent Razor2 installed? That was it. I set dcc_path in local.cf and it's rocking again. Thanks, Shane --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise E

Re: [SAtalk] DCC

2003-01-10 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 11:00:59AM -0700, Shane Hickey wrote: > I recently installed DCC and I'm getting this when I run spamd with the > -D flag. Is "dccproc" in PATH when you run spamd? Do you also have a recent Razor2 installed? If the first answer is no, fix that. If the second answer is ye

[SAtalk] DCC

2003-01-10 Thread Shane Hickey
I recently installed DCC and I'm getting this when I run spamd with the -D flag. debug: DCC is not available: dccproc not found If I run "cdcc 'info'" I get the following # 01/10/03 10:57:49 MST /var/dcc/map # Will re-resolve names after 11:33:31 # 195.53 ms chosen delay 9 total addresses 5

RE: [SAtalk] DCC Or Razor2?

2002-11-06 Thread Michael Moncur
> The processing time is a little higher than I like it though.. I would > like it to be < 1 second for most messages. So, I want to drop one of > those tests. Which one is least beneficial? I find Razor2 to be the most beneficial when it works. Sometimes the servers don't work for a day or two.

RE: [SAtalk] DCC Or Razor2?

2002-11-06 Thread Paul Fries
your help! -Paul -Original Message- From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:16 PM To: Paul Fries; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] DCC Or Razor2? For what it's worth, here's a summary of what I've gleaned from my exp

Re: [SAtalk] DCC Or Razor2?

2002-11-06 Thread Matt Kettler
For what it's worth, here's a summary of what I've gleaned from my experience and the various lists: DCC isn't really concerned with a message being spam or not, they only are concerned with it being "bulk". So they intend to match non-spam newsletters, etc. Razor is intending to only list mes

[SAtalk] DCC Or Razor2?

2002-11-06 Thread Paul Fries
Right now I am running both DCC and Razor2... The processing time is a little higher than I like it though.. I would like it to be < 1 second for most messages. So, I want to drop one of those tests. Which one is least beneficial? Thanks! -Paul -

Re: [SAtalk] DCC, Net::DNS & SA

2002-10-09 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 03:04:29PM -0500, VCI Help Desk wrote: > thing I notice is that I only get this debug info on the first email that SA > processes. That isn't correct is it? What are you wondering about specifically? > /usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/spamd -H /usr/local/bin/ -D -d -x -u mail

[SAtalk] DCC, Net::DNS & SA

2002-10-09 Thread VCI Help Desk
Hi, I'm trying to verify that my SpamAssassin is working properly. The first thing I notice is that I only get this debug info on the first email that SA processes. That isn't correct is it? My SA run statement looks like this: /usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/spamd -H /usr/local/bin/ -D

Re: [SAtalk] "DCC is not available"

2002-07-11 Thread Ryan Cleary
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Justin Mason wrote: > > "rODbegbie" said: > > > Did the "fix" to stop the DCC not found messages cause SA to stop finding > > DCC? > > yes, it did. whoops. current CVS is now fixed. A ! got added somewhere between the patch I submitted to bugzilla, and the code that got

Re: [SAtalk] "DCC is not available"

2002-07-11 Thread Justin Mason
"rODbegbie" said: > Did the "fix" to stop the DCC not found messages cause SA to stop finding > DCC? yes, it did. whoops. current CVS is now fixed. --j. --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek PC Mods, Computing goodies, cases & mo

[SAtalk] "DCC is not available"

2002-07-11 Thread rODbegbie
DCC was working fine on my system. I installed the latest CVS, and now I see this in my maillog: Jul 11 12:02:49 blazing spamd[5952]: debug: DCC is not available: system failed Did the "fix" to stop the DCC not found messages cause SA to stop finding DCC? Anyone else? rOD. -- Sell to them th

RE: [SAtalk] DCC reporting busted

2002-06-28 Thread Michael Moncur
> Anyone using 2.40 CVS? If so can you confirm that dcc reporting is > broken? Broken in what way? It *appears* to be working to me, or at least there is no obvious sign of brokenness. This is all of the debug output I get: debug: DCC is available: 1.0.53 debug: SpamAssassin: spam reported to

[SAtalk] DCC reporting busted

2002-06-27 Thread Rose, Bobby
Anyone using 2.40 CVS? If so can you confirm that dcc reporting is broken? --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Caffeinated soap. No kidding. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Spamassassin-talk

Re: [SAtalk] DCC and Razor usage

2002-06-11 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 09:02:51AM -0700, Jim Scott wrote: > So if RAZOR_CHECK is set to 0 spamd will not even go out and check Razor? Or > by setting it to zero even if it matches RAZOR as spam it is given a score > of zero? If a test has a score of 0 it doesn't get run. > needed. I am guessing

Re: [SAtalk] DCC and Razor usage

2002-06-11 Thread Jim Scott
MAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [SAtalk] DCC and Razor usage > On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 08:39:53AM -0700, Jim Scott wrote: > > Does DCC work with version 2.20? > > Not directly (you'd have to patch 2.20 to add the

Re: [SAtalk] DCC and Razor usage

2002-06-11 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 08:39:53AM -0700, Jim Scott wrote: > Does DCC work with version 2.20? Not directly (you'd have to patch 2.20 to add the support). It should be available in 2.30 as I understand it. > Also what would need to be done if I ever wanted to disable one or the > other? Is there

[SAtalk] DCC and Razor usage

2002-06-11 Thread Jim Scott
I am using versin 2.20 and installed Razor and I see spamassassin is now using it. I would like to also use DCC however after installing it per Readme I do not see any indication that it spamassassin is using it as well? Does DCC work with version 2.20? Also what would need to be done if I ever w

[SAtalk] DCC and razor doc (Was: Why aren't ALL scores genetically evolved?)

2002-05-28 Thread Kingsley G. Morse Jr.
Hi Craig, Thanks for explaining why some scores aren't evolved. I'm an old GA and optimization programmer, so I naturally find SA's use of a GA pretty interesting. You suggested using all network tests. I've installed razor and made sure spamassassin isn't called with the -L option. However,

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