Re: [SAtalk] spam funny

2003-07-25 Thread Daniel Carrera
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 12:37:51PM +0700, Alexander Litvinov wrote: > > The point is, checking the PGP signature is a good way of finding out if > > someone is supposed to be writing to you. If there is a recognizable PGP > > sig, it counts very well

[SAtalk] To lalong@balanone.info not matching

2003-07-25 Thread Robert Menschel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm probably doing something dumb, but I've tried variations on this, and I'm not getting anywhere. SA version 2.55 Attached is spam. The HTML text is ignored because of known SA problems that I believe are fixed in 2.60. Also because of those problem

[SAtalk] Bayesian filtering and forwards

2003-07-25 Thread Jason Parsons
I would like to feed back messages received by end users to the Bayesian engine. However, end users download their messages via POP. I have a few questions regarding this configuration: 1. Will the Bayesian engine be able at all useful running against the body of a message only? If I have t

Re: [SAtalk] spam funny

2003-07-25 Thread Alexander Litvinov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > The point is, checking the PGP signature is a good way of finding out if > someone is supposed to be writing to you. If there is a recognizable PGP > sig, it counts very well (e.g. -4.5) if it's not recognized it counts a > little bad (e.g. +1.0) H

Re: [SAtalk] spam funny

2003-07-25 Thread Daniel Carrera
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 11:18:39AM +0700, Alexander Litvinov wrote: > > Of course, in theory spammers could start including things that look like > > PGP signatures. But since most people don't use PGP or GnuPG, we don't > > have to worry about this.

Re: [SAtalk] spam funny

2003-07-25 Thread Richard Ham
> Spammer WILL start to use real, good signatures. It is not too hard. We've seen that type of thing already.. Going back to the original message, the sample of target text, enclosed within an english language email, was: acxfic z fvddx n th r j eghqyxun hlchd rpk zgrxlkd bqnkstszzwyoyh h

Re: [SAtalk] [RD] rule discussion

2003-07-25 Thread Justin Mason
>> Secondly we never clarified if it was ok to discuss rules here in >> mass. I can't help it. Seeing all these rules has got me wanting to >> discuss them, and the posts regarding them will no doubt increase. So >> shall we continue to use SAtalk? I think we should. Maybe just put >> [RD] in the

[SAtalk] Re: netscape and spamassassin

2003-07-25 Thread Richard -Gilligan- Uschold
I have a solution to using SpamAssassin with Netscape on Linux. The mail reader in Netscape Communicator does not directly allow inserting a program to filter the email, as some other email readers do. I am using the following workaround. The basic concept is a two step process: -

Re: [SAtalk] spam funny

2003-07-25 Thread Alexander Litvinov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Of course, in theory spammers could start including things that look like > PGP signatures. But since most people don't use PGP or GnuPG, we don't > have to worry about this. > > Later of, if spammers start to add fake PGP signatures, we can call an

Re: [SAtalk] How to stop sent replay message from Postfix?

2003-07-25 Thread Jim Knuth
- Original Message - From: "Jari Fredriksson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 4:49 AM Subject: Re: [SAtalk] How to stop sent replay message from Postfix? > Oleg Aronov wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have a big problem and hope

Re: [SAtalk] spam funny

2003-07-25 Thread Daniel Carrera
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > The same PGP signature problem applies to the multiple-consonant rules > Daniel Carrera offered. I picked a signed email at random, and > found: ... 4cons ... 7cons ... 8cons ... 6cons ... > > I receive a lot of PGP-signed email ... I'm going to ha

Re[2]: [SAtalk] spam funny

2003-07-25 Thread Robert Menschel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Chris, Friday, July 25, 2003, 1:55:03 PM, you wrote: CS> # These next six are VERY INTERESTING. I'm very proud of these CS> babies. CS> # They help tag and find the random characters spammers put in. Works CS> GREAT CS> rawbody MY_OBFUZ

Re: [SAtalk] Block an entire Network?

2003-07-25 Thread Matt Kettler
At 03:09 PM 7/25/03 +0300, Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote: > >How does one go about blacklisting an entire network, say for example > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] does not seem to work? If you have the option; block it from the firewall OR router. It saves SO much overhead! Actualy, it is the lowest overhead to 5xx

Re[2]: [SAtalk] spam funny

2003-07-25 Thread Robert Menschel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Daniel, Friday, July 25, 2003, 1:41:54 PM, you wrote: DC> Here is a thought: We could test for n consecutive consonants. The DC> more consecutive consotants, the more likely it is to be spam. Sounds like a good idea. DC> body MY_CONSON

Re: [SAtalk] rule ideas..

2003-07-25 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Matt Kettler wrote: > At 03:07 PM 7/24/2003 -0700, Abigail Marshall wrote: > >I have one that I've been using for some time that activates > >if the body contains a LINK to a .BIZ domain: [snip..] > I'd also suggest using \S* instead of .* after all, leading a regex off > with

Re: [SAtalk] How to stop sent replay message from Postfix?

2003-07-25 Thread Jari Fredriksson
Oleg Aronov wrote: > Hello, > > I have a big problem and hope somebody will help me. SpamAssassin does not do this. It's propably someting in your installation; similar things has happened to me too. But SA does not bounce spam. Check, check, check. Check your installation, and integration with

Re: [SAtalk] rules needed: iraq "most wanted" playing cards

2003-07-25 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello jvanasco, Friday, July 25, 2003, 7:49:18 AM, you wrote: jmc> I've been getting dozens of these, and they've got pretty clever jmc> senders who don't seem to be doing things that other rules or bayes jmc> catch. jmc> anyone have some good custom rules they use? No custom rules for it here.

Re: [SAtalk] bayes question

2003-07-25 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:22 PM 7/25/2003 -0700, Ian Douglas wrote: I've been putting sa-learn through the gears with many thousands of spam messages (gotta love web hosting 100+ domains most of which do nothing but collect spam /sigh). I'm curious how Bayes is *supposed* to be learning... I find that despite learning

Re[3]: [SAtalk] Big problem - SA crashing - Bayes database issue

2003-07-25 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Matt, Friday, July 25, 2003, 8:53:28 AM, you wrote: MK> How much memory does your system have? MK> Bayes can be a pretty substantial memory hog.. I found out what the problem was - just thought I would share it. What happens is that I use procmail to catch spam from some spam-trap addr

Re: [SAtalk] Newbie... some questions

2003-07-25 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:43 AM 7/26/2003 +0200, Bonny wrote: Hello! I'm using spamassassin 2.44 and would like to know a) the difference with the latest release (2.55 afair)... There's a very significant difference. First, 2.44's spamd has a buffer overflow vulnerability. This wasn't completly fixed till 2.50 so

[SAtalk] Newbie... some questions

2003-07-25 Thread Bonny
Hello! I'm using spamassassin 2.44 and would like to know a) the difference with the latest release (2.55 afair)... b) why are my subjects NOT rewritten, although I told it in the config file? Thank you for the beginning... -- Bonny - Registered Linux User #251752 --- VB LUG Moderator

Re: [SAtalk] spam funny

2003-07-25 Thread Daniel Carrera
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Probably more effective would be to write this as an eval: rule and > write a function for it. (eval:consonant_count('0', '4'), How do you write a function for SA? - -- Daniel Carrera| OpenPGP fingerprint: Mathematics Dept. | 6643 8C8B 3522

Re: [SAtalk] spam funny

2003-07-25 Thread Daniel Carrera
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Sandy, Thank you for your comments. I've given it some thought and I think I'm making progress towards a good rule. Sample text we want to avoid: acxfic z fvddx n th r j eghqyxun hlchd rpk zgrxlkd bqnkstszzwyoyh heljsi We can try a serie

Re: [SAtalk] spam funny

2003-07-25 Thread Darryl Bleau
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 15:13, Daniel Carrera wrote: > > > Like wise we can go on with more consonants: > > > > > > score MY_CONSONANT_4 0.15 > > > score MY_CONSONANT_5 0.30 > > > score MY_CONSONANT_6 0.60 > > > score MY_CONSONANT_7 1.20 > > > score MY_CONSONANT_8 2.40 > > >

RE: [SAtalk] [SD]spam funny

2003-07-25 Thread Yackley, Matt
> > -Original Message- > From: Sandy S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 4:33 PM > To: Daniel Carrera; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sorry to say I tried something like this already - it hit > every we got an > email order with a credit card number in it, or any string

Re: [SAtalk] spam funny

2003-07-25 Thread Daniel Carrera
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 04:33:27PM -0500, Sandy S wrote: > Sorry to say I tried something like this already - it hit every we got an > email order with a credit card number in it, or any string of numbers for > that matter. Even if you added numbers t

[SAtalk] How to stop sent replay message from Postfix?

2003-07-25 Thread Oleg Aronov
Hello, I have a big problem and hope somebody will help me. We use postfix and SpamAssassin on it to filter our emails. So, if we receiving any spam emails it goes to Spam account (as it should be). But the SpamAssassin box will sent replay to sender (example bellow). So, the problem is that s

Re: [SAtalk] spam funny

2003-07-25 Thread Daniel Carrera
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 06:27:59PM -0300, Raul Dias wrote: > [...] > > body MY_CONSONANT_4 /[^aeiou]{4}/ > > I think you meant something like: > /[^aeiou\s\d]{4}/ That works better. Yes, that's why I asked for confirmation. - -- Daniel Carr

Re: [SAtalk] spam funny

2003-07-25 Thread Daniel Carrera
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 11:25:17PM +0200, Chr. von Stuckrad wrote: > > body MY_CONSONANT_4 /[^aeiou]{4}/ > > describe MY_CONSONANT_4 Body contains 4 consecutive consonants. > > score MY_CONSONANT_4 0.15 > > The pattern might be dangerous

Re: [SAtalk] spam funny

2003-07-25 Thread Kai MacTane
At 7/25/03 01:41 PM , Daniel Carrera wrote: Here is a thought: We could test for n consecutive consonants. The more consecutive consotants, the more likely it is to be spam. [snip] Any thoughts on these rules? I guess I'm assuming that you don't get emails in German. I also see these sorts of t

Re: [SAtalk] spam funny

2003-07-25 Thread Sandy S
Sorry to say I tried something like this already - it hit every we got an email order with a credit card number in it, or any string of numbers for that matter. Even if you added numbers to the list (/[^aeiou0-9]/), it would still hit on your PGP signature below, on strings like "http:", etc. I'm

[SAtalk] bayes question

2003-07-25 Thread Ian Douglas
I've been putting sa-learn through the gears with many thousands of spam messages (gotta love web hosting 100+ domains most of which do nothing but collect spam /sigh). I'm curious how Bayes is *supposed* to be learning... I find that despite learning from hundreds of MB of spam that spam is still

Re: [SAtalk] spam funny

2003-07-25 Thread Chr. von Stuckrad
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 04:41:54PM -0400, Daniel Carrera wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > body MY_CONSONANT_4 /[^aeiou]{4}/ > describe MY_CONSONANT_4 Body contains 4 consecutive consonants. > score MY_CONSONANT_4 0.15 The pattern might be dangerous for french, chinese, or

Re: [SAtalk] spam funny

2003-07-25 Thread Raul Dias
Hi, Em Sex, 2003-07-25 às 17:41, Daniel Carrera escreveu: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 [...] > body MY_CONSONANT_4 /[^aeiou]{4}/ I think you meant something like: /[^aeiou\s\d]{4}/ []'s Raul Dias --- This SF.Net em

Re: [SAtalk] spam funny

2003-07-25 Thread Daniel Carrera
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 01:56:56PM -0700, Ian Douglas wrote: > > When I saw your title I was hoping for a chuckle. > > I have a friend that works at Hormel ...I'm sure I could get all kinds > of Spam humor from her. > > (Hormel makes the meat they c

RE: [SAtalk] spam funny

2003-07-25 Thread Chris Santerre
Why just check the rule Emporium! :) Here they are, I need to add a few more combo's next week. # These next six are VERY INTERESTING. I'm very proud of these babies. # They help tag and find the random characters spammers put in. Works GREAT rawbody MY_OBFUZ /z(r|f|k|j|v|x)/i describe MY_OB

RE: [SAtalk] spam funny

2003-07-25 Thread Ian Douglas
> When I saw your title I was hoping for a chuckle. I have a friend that works at Hormel ...I'm sure I could get all kinds of Spam humor from her. (Hormel makes the meat they call SPAM) > Like wise we can go on with more consonants: > > score MY_CONSONANT_4 0.15 > score MY_CONSONANT_5

Re: [SAtalk] beginning

2003-07-25 Thread Kai MacTane
At 7/25/03 01:15 PM , Leonardo Costa wrote: header MEEPSSubject =~ /MEEPS/i describe MEEPS Assunto contem a palavra 'MEEPS' score MEEPS0.5 and i put it at local.cf, but i didn't work. Your rule looks fine. If you're using spamd, did you kill and restart it?

Re: [SAtalk] beginning

2003-07-25 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Leonardo Costa wrote: > Hi all! > > i would like to know, where can i put new rules at spamassassin? > > i´m trying to create a rule that add 0.5 points to score when the word > "MEEPS" was founded at subject. > > thats how i tried to do: > > header MEEPSSubje

Re: [SAtalk] spam funny

2003-07-25 Thread Daniel Carrera
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ahhh... you mean *that* kind of funny... When I saw your title I was hoping for a chuckle. Sorry, I can't think of any rule to vix those. I'd be interested in one because I've received some of those too. Here is a thought: We could test for n cons

Re[3]: [SAtalk] Big problem - SA crashing

2003-07-25 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Matt, Friday, July 25, 2003, 8:53:28 AM, you wrote: >I did run sa-learn --build (even >>before I posted), and that didn't seem to do any good. >> MK> How much memory does your system have? MK> Bayes can be a pretty substantial memory hog, particularly if your MK> mailserver is limping

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Big problem - SA crashing

2003-07-25 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Malte, MSS> On Friday 25 July 2003 04:06 CET Abigail Marshall wrote: >> My procmail.log is full of entries like this: >> >[...] >> > Cannot open bayes_path //.spamassassin/bayes R/W: File exists >> > Cannot open bayes_path //.spamassassin/bayes R/W: File exists >> > Cannot open bayes_path

Re: [SAtalk] segfault from sa-learn

2003-07-25 Thread Adam Stein
>> Almost definitely related to the perl database modules being used. >> Please upgrade or install the "DB_File" module from CPAN. >> >> --j. > >Well, I installed DB_File-1.806, but sa-learn still segfaults on this >file. So many things depend on perl that upgrading it is a non-trivial >task. Si

[SAtalk] beginning

2003-07-25 Thread Leonardo Costa
Hi all!   i would like to know, where can i put new rules at spamassassin?   i´m trying to create a rule that add 0.5 points to score when the word "MEEPS" was founded at subject.   thats how i tried to do:   header MEEPS    Subject =~ /MEEPS/idescribe MEEPS  Assunto contem

[SAtalk] spam funny

2003-07-25 Thread Andrea Riela
Hi folks, I receive a lot of spam (html or text only) that has at the end a funny expression, always different, like this: acxfic z fvddx n th r j eghqyxun hlchd rpk zgrxlkd bqnkstszzwyoyh heljsi r Could I filter this spam? And if yes, how? Advices? Thanks for all Best Regards Andrea Riela

RE: [RD] RE: [SAtalk] rules needed: iraq "most wanted" playing ca rds

2003-07-25 Thread Chris Santerre
OK, I wrote my tips page quickly, and wrote the example analysis using this email even quicker. I hope to give it more time next week. I need to get some other stuff done for the weekend. Link is on page in my sig, but for those wanting it right away :) http://www.merchantsoverseas.com/wwwroot/go

[SAtalk] How to stop sent replay message from Postfix?

2003-07-25 Thread Oleg Aronov
Hello, I have a big problem and hope somebody will help me. We use postfix and SpamAssassin on it to filter our emails. So, if we receiving any spam emails it goes to Spam account (as it should be). But the SpamAssassin box will sent replay to sender (example bellow). So, the problem is that sen

Re: [SAtalk] segfault from sa-learn

2003-07-25 Thread Fred Bacon
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 14:27, Justin Mason wrote: > > Almost definitely related to the perl database modules being used. > Please upgrade or install the "DB_File" module from CPAN. > > --j. Well, I installed DB_File-1.806, but sa-learn still segfaults on this file. So many things depend on perl

RE: [SAtalk] Razor question

2003-07-25 Thread Yorkshire Dave
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 18:02, Raul Dias wrote: > hi Kevin, > > Em Sex, 2003-07-25 Ã s 07:07, Kevin Buzzard escreveu: > > On 24 Jul 2003, Raul Dias wrote: > > > > > Something I found interesting was using Razor + Pyzor + Dcc. > > > Then I create meta rules that matchs: > > > Razor + Pyzor > > > Raz

[SAtalk] OE 5.5 and 6.0 both interpret HTML in text/plain parts

2003-07-25 Thread Justin Mason
I think we already knew this BTW, but just in case... anyway it's good to know they didn't bother fixing it. --j. --- Forwarded Message Date:Fri, 25 Jul 2003 17:12:33 - From:"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [VulnWatch] TEXT/PLAIN: AL

Re: [SAtalk] Razor question

2003-07-25 Thread Justin Mason
Kevin Buzzard writes: >We have already established in this thread that it is probably *not* >a good idea in general to say "if razor says it's spam with >probability > 90% then it's spam" because razor can make mistakes, >or perhaps be tricked into making mistakes. Indeed the _point_ of spamassass

RE: [SAtalk] SA Custom Rule Emporium is alive :)

2003-07-25 Thread Yorkshire Dave
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 16:51, AltGrendel wrote: > On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 21:16, Yorkshire Dave wrote: > > > It's been unreachable from here since you announced it. > > > > I know its up because I can get at it from elsewhere, but from here it > > stops 3 hops short. your upstream got me blocked or

Re: [SAtalk] segfault from sa-learn

2003-07-25 Thread Justin Mason
Fred Bacon writes: >A week or so ago, I wrote discussing a strange problem with sa-learn >segfaulting on occasional email messages. It's happened again. This is >the debug output from a run where I was checking to see which message >was causing the problem. I've attached the problematic file as

Re: [RD] RE: [SAtalk] rules needed: iraq "most wanted" playing ca rds

2003-07-25 Thread jvanasco
yeah.. its really interesting -- because reading it, it reads like a lot of emails i get bayes didn't score it at all On Friday, July 25, 2003, at 01:51 PM, Chris Santerre wrote: OK that is much better to have the example. And this is kind of perfect for what I wanted to discuss about rule w

Re: [SAtalk] reporting idea

2003-07-25 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:24 PM 7/25/2003 -0500, mikea wrote: Bad idea, I think. Certainly you should not mail the whois contacts using an automated tool, and I think it is not entirely wise to mail other mailboxes using such a tool if there is no human in the loop. Well, this part of your argument against it is so

[SAtalk] max white/blacklist

2003-07-25 Thread Dave Stern - Former Rocket Scientist
What is the maximum number of white/blacklist entries before SA chokes (V2.54)? I'm resuming 300+ is nowheres near the limit. Also, if these are on a single line, how long can it wrap for? Is 1600+ characters too long? TIA =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- generated by /dev/dave -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Re: [SAtalk] qmail, virtual users, and spamassassin

2003-07-25 Thread Robert Fleming
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 01:04:02PM -0400, Jason Parsons wrote: > > Does the -u flag require a "real" username, or can it be set > arbitrarily to an email address? Care to share your qmail-scanner > patch? I am using virtual users with info stored in MySQL so it uses the email address (multipl

RE: [RD] RE: [SAtalk] rules needed: iraq "most wanted" playing cards

2003-07-25 Thread Chris Santerre
OK that is much better to have the example. And this is kind of perfect for what I wanted to discuss about rule writing. I'm going to try to use this as an example on my tips page. I'll see if I can get cracking on it and post on it later. This is a perfect example of rules discussion. I know the

Re: [SAtalk] reporting idea

2003-07-25 Thread jvanasco
double traffic. eek. didn't think of that. since it would be a sitewide application though, it could just run nightly and report cumulative amounts. the real thing that i want to accomplish, is alerting bandwidth providers of the activity. whether its an abusive customer or an insecure box

Re: [SAtalk] reporting idea

2003-07-25 Thread mikea
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 12:50:02PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i dont know how useful this would be, but i was thinking of a spam > reporting tool that did the following: > sends a message to root/webmaster/whatever of the mailing ip > traceroutes the ip, and finds the location f

RE: [SAtalk] Oops... running 2.60

2003-07-25 Thread Kai MacTane
At 7/25/03 08:42 AM , Tony Hoyle wrote: I've found 2.60 is a generaly bit better than 2.55, but recently the spammers have worked around it... I now get about a couple of dozen spams a day coming in with ridiculously low scores (<2, usually) - they're heavily exploiting the low scoring HTML_IMAG

Re: [SAtalk] reporting idea

2003-07-25 Thread Daniel Carrera
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If most spam comes from a few servers... wouldn't this create a massive DOS against those servers? Then again... that would stop spam wouldn't it? One problem I see with the approach is that it would double the traffic on the web. One thing I lik

[SAtalk] Upgrading: 2.53 -> 2.55

2003-07-25 Thread Kai MacTane
Hi. I'm currently running SA-2.53, and thinking of upgrading to 2.55. Since this is a production system I'm running on (and I don't have a spare machine to test on), I was wondering if anyone had any experience with the upgrade from one to the other. Is it a fairly painless process? Are there a

Re: [SAtalk] qmail, virtual users, and spamassassin

2003-07-25 Thread Jason Parsons
I am doing this through a patch to qmail-scanner-queue. It grabs the 'delivered-to' header and uses that with the "-u" switch to spamc. Does the -u flag require a "real" username, or can it be set arbitrarily to an email address? Care to share your qmail-scanner patch? Thank you. - Jason P

RE: [SAtalk] Razor question

2003-07-25 Thread Raul Dias
hi Kevin, Em Sex, 2003-07-25 às 07:07, Kevin Buzzard escreveu: > On 24 Jul 2003, Raul Dias wrote: > > > Something I found interesting was using Razor + Pyzor + Dcc. > > Then I create meta rules that matchs: > > Razor + Pyzor > > Razor + Dcc > > Pyzor + Dcc > > Razor + Pyzor + Dcc (this will also,

Re: [SAtalk] Best way to configure SA for Postfix?

2003-07-25 Thread Yuval Kojman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Garth Serjeantson wrote: > I've seen several different ways of doing this. I was wondering if > there is a general consensus on which is the best way of configuring SA > for PF on a RH8 box. Any thoughts? I'm very happy with a

[SAtalk] reporting idea

2003-07-25 Thread jvanasco
i dont know how useful this would be, but i was thinking of a spam reporting tool that did the following: sends a message to root/webmaster/whatever of the mailing ip traceroutes the ip, and finds the location facility and/or isp -- then mails root/webmaster and all whois contacts for that comp

Re: [RD] RE: [SAtalk] rules needed: iraq "most wanted" playing cards

2003-07-25 Thread jvanasco
if it were only so easy.. i think i might just give a couple points for "playing cards" in the body. maybe that and 'support american soldiers' the newest one reads : Subject: Saddam's evil biological weapons -- his sons Body: Big news yesterday. Saddam's two sons, Uday and Qusay Huss

Re: [SAtalk] Razor question

2003-07-25 Thread Kelson Vibber
Kevin Buzzard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So it seems to me that the _key_ issue here is: are razor, pyzor, dcc making mistakes with the _same_ emails? Not from what I can see. I posted some stats from my own server two weeks ago in the "Razor2 vs DCC vs Pyzor" thread. I only compared Razor and

RE: [SAtalk] Matthew K Bowman is out of the office.

2003-07-25 Thread Marek Dohojda
But if we do this, they may learn.. And then we may not know that he is out of the office!!! -Original Message- From: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 12:20 AM To: spamassassin list >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTE

RE: [SAtalk] [RD] rule discussion

2003-07-25 Thread Chris Santerre
> -Original Message- > From: Kai MacTane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 11:56 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] [RD] rule discussion > > > At 7/25/03 07:09 AM , Chris Santerre wrote: > >Well I've done another update on the rules site. Some great

Re: [SAtalk] [RD] rule discussion

2003-07-25 Thread Kai MacTane
At 7/25/03 07:09 AM , Chris Santerre wrote: Well I've done another update on the rules site. Some great rules submitted again. Lots I want to incorporate myself. I have received a few rules that score points for bounced emails. What is everyone's take on this? Yes bounces can be generated by spa

RE: [SAtalk] SA Custom Rule Emporium is alive :)

2003-07-25 Thread AltGrendel
On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 15:11, Chris Santerre wrote: > I added a URI rule to try. Quick and fast! But what is to keep spammers from > going in there and deleteing stuff? > > Chris > > > > -Original Message- > > From: AltGrendel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 2

[RD] RE: [SAtalk] rules needed: iraq "most wanted" playing cards

2003-07-25 Thread Chris Santerre
Something like this: header MY_PLAYING_CARDS Subject =~ /pl(a|\@)ying.?c(a|\@)rds?/i describe MY_PLAYING_CARDS Talks about playing cards in Subject score MY_PLAYING_CARDS 1.0 Chris Santerre System Admin and SA Custom Rules Emporium Keeper http://www.merchantsoverseas.com/wwwroot/gorilla/sa_rule

RE: [SAtalk] SA Custom Rule Emporium is alive :)

2003-07-25 Thread AltGrendel
On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 21:16, Yorkshire Dave wrote: > It's been unreachable from here since you announced it. > > I know its up because I can get at it from elsewhere, but from here it > stops 3 hops short. your upstream got me blocked or something? No, I'm not blocking anything. -- AltGrende

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Big problem - SA crashing

2003-07-25 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:48 PM 7/24/2003 -0700, Abigail Marshall wrote: Matt, thanks for the great tip, but it didn't solve my problem. I disabled Bayes and then modified procmail as you suggested, and a large, legit email from a previously unknown user (not whitelisted) with a 30k attachment went through without a h

Re: [SAtalk] rule ideas..

2003-07-25 Thread Evan Platt
--On Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:39 AM -0700 Chris Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Then perhaps a rule that runs a spellcheck might be handy? All I sez bout that 1de@ is itz the fashizzy. w0rd. :-) I can just imagine the processing time for that one thou. Evan ---

RE: [SAtalk] Oops... running 2.60

2003-07-25 Thread Tony Hoyle
> -Original Message- > From: Colin Henein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 24 July 2003 17:32 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] Oops... running 2.60 > > > Greetings all, > > I've been running 2.60 for several months (must have picked > the wrong download back there somewhere

Re: [SAtalk] [RD] rule discussion

2003-07-25 Thread Dave
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 15:09, Chris Santerre wrote: > Well I've done another update on the rules site. Some great rules > submitted again. Lots I want to incorporate myself. I have received a > few rules that score points for bounced emails. What is everyone's > take on this? > > Yes bounces can b

Re: [SAtalk] Actual Documentation for 2.55 or 2.60 ?

2003-07-25 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:01 AM 7/25/03 +0200, Muenz, Michael wrote: Hi, the docs at SA site have changed. Is that only a doc update or is it now for 2.60 ? I'm interested in the trusted networks feature. If it's for 2.60, is there a release date planned ? Thx I've never exactly understood why, but the "documentatio

[SAtalk] rules needed: iraq "most wanted" playing cards

2003-07-25 Thread jvanasco
I've been getting dozens of these, and they've got pretty clever senders who don't seem to be doing things that other rules or bayes catch. anyone have some good custom rules they use? does 2.6 already have rules for this (or planned inclusion) ? -

Re: [SAtalk] [RD] rule discussion

2003-07-25 Thread Daniel Carrera
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Where is the list of custom rules? I'd like to see it. On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 10:09:32AM -0400, Chris Santerre wrote: > >Well I've done another update on the rules site. Some great rules >submitted again. Lots I want to incorporate myself.

[SAtalk] segfault from sa-learn

2003-07-25 Thread Fred Bacon
Hi, A week or so ago, I wrote discussing a strange problem with sa-learn segfaulting on occasional email messages. It's happened again. This is the debug output from a run where I was checking to see which message was causing the problem. I've attached the problematic file as well. System spec

Re: [SAtalk] SA not filtering spam.

2003-07-25 Thread Daniel Carrera
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 08:28:48AM -0500, Bob Apthorpe wrote: > > I just looked at the headers, and I notice the following text: > > > > X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.0 required=5.0 \ > >tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,PLING,CASHCASHCASH, \ > >CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADERS version=2.20 >

[SAtalk] [RD] rule discussion

2003-07-25 Thread Chris Santerre
Well I've done another update on the rules site. Some great rules submitted again. Lots I want to incorporate myself. I have received a few rules that score points for bounced emails. What is everyone's take on this?   Yes bounces can be generated by spam, but for the most part I believe the

Re: [SAtalk] Big problem - SA crashing

2003-07-25 Thread Jack L. Stone
At 11:20 PM 7.24.2003 -0400, Matt Kettler wrote: >At 07:06 PM 7/24/2003 -0700, Abigail Marshall wrote: >>I had seen messages like this ON OCCASSION before, but today >>it is happening all the time - spam is getting through >>constantly. >> >>I suspect that the problem exists with the Bayes file, gi

Re: [SAtalk] SA not filtering spam.

2003-07-25 Thread Bob Apthorpe
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 00:16:00 -0400 Daniel Carrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just looked at the headers, and I notice the following text: > > X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.0 required=5.0 \ >tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,PLING,CASHCASHCASH, \ >CHARSET_FARAWAY_HEADERS version=2.20

[SAtalk] Re: Big problem - SA crashing

2003-07-25 Thread Malte S. Stretz
On Friday 25 July 2003 04:06 CET Abigail Marshall wrote: > My procmail.log is full of entries like this: > >[...] > > Cannot open bayes_path //.spamassassin/bayes R/W: File exists > > Cannot open bayes_path //.spamassassin/bayes R/W: File exists > > Cannot open bayes_path //.spamassassin/bayes R/W:

Re: [SAtalk] Block an entire Network?

2003-07-25 Thread Turgut Kalfaoglu
> At 07:00 PM 7/23/03 -0700, Jim Blevins wrote: > >How does one go about blacklisting an entire network, say for example > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] does not seem to work? If you have the option; block it from the firewall OR router. It saves SO much overhead! -turgut - Turgut Kalfaoglu: http:/

RE: [SAtalk] sa-learn question

2003-07-25 Thread Giles Coochey
I use readpst. I have a spam mailbox in Exchange. The smarthost has "-B [EMAIL PROTECTED]" in the spamass-milter script. Export the hams and spams into a pst and ftp them to the Smarthost. Readpst is part of libpst_0.3.4.tgz, currently in Beta, you can download it from here: http://sourceforge.net

RE: [SAtalk] Razor question

2003-07-25 Thread Kevin Buzzard
On 24 Jul 2003, Raul Dias wrote: > Something I found interesting was using Razor + Pyzor + Dcc. > Then I create meta rules that matchs: > Razor + Pyzor > Razor + Dcc > Pyzor + Dcc > Razor + Pyzor + Dcc (this will also, of course, match all three before). This is definitely an interesting idea! Bu

[SAtalk] re: SA and Outlook

2003-07-25 Thread Jon Miller
I have a client that is reporting that their e-mails are mixing the banner in the template with the text in the e-mail. Their e-mail client is MS Outlook 2000, their mail server is Sendmail. Question I would like to know does SA alter the mail it checks and passes? Does it strip the images fro

[SAtalk] Actual Documentation for 2.55 or 2.60 ?

2003-07-25 Thread Muenz, Michael
Hi, the docs at SA site have changed. Is that only a doc update or is it now for 2.60 ? I'm interested in the trusted networks feature. If it's for 2.60, is there a release date planned ? Thx - Michael --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free

Re: [SAtalk] too stupid for spamming

2003-07-25 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Friday, July 25, 2003, at 01:07 AM, Roman Katzer wrote: Just found this in my inbox. Marked with 3.6 points, but with some valuable information in it. For real, this time ;-) Well, have a look at the attachments... It's a spam mailing, but somehow all the mails leading to the spam mailing, even

Re: [SAtalk] Re: FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK hitting with Outlook XP???

2003-07-25 Thread Tony Finch
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Martin Radford wrote: > > If that's correct, I think people on the beta program really should > report it as a bug, irrespective of the fact that a Message-ID is not > technically mandatory. Lots of headers that SHOULD be present in normal SMTP don't have to be present at mess

Re: [SAtalk] too stupid for spamming

2003-07-25 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Friday, July 25, 2003, at 01:07 AM, Roman Katzer wrote: Just found this in my inbox. Marked with 3.6 points, but with some valuable information in it. For real, this time ;-) Well, have a look at the attachments... It's a spam mailing, but somehow all the mails leading to the spam mailing, even

Re: [SAtalk] Matthew K Bowman is out of the office.

2003-07-25 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 10:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will be out of the office starting 07/24/2003 and will not return until 07/28/2003. If this is a technical problem that needs urgent attention. Please e-m

[SAtalk] too stupid for spamming

2003-07-25 Thread Roman Katzer
Just found this in my inbox. Marked with 3.6 points, but with some valuable information in it. For real, this time ;-) Well, have a look at the attachments... It's a spam mailing, but somehow all the mails leading to the spam mailing, even the details of the Paypal transaction, are below the spam

Re: [SAtalk] Matthew K Bowman is out of the office.

2003-07-25 Thread Alan Fullmer
info added to my palm pilot. :-) - Original Message - From: "Marek Dohojda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:31 PM Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Matthew K Bowman is out of the office. > Well at least now we know. Which is very helpful if we ever need

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Big problem - SA crashing

2003-07-25 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Matt, Thursday, July 24, 2003, 8:20:58 PM, you wrote: MK> Sounds like you need locking to keep there from being an infintite number MK> of simultaneous instances of spamassassin. MK> You should have something like this: MK> :0fw: spamassassin.lock MK> * < 256000 MK> | spamassassin Matt

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