Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise resumed again (was Resignation)

2006-08-02 Thread Lance Albertson
chful eyes. Basically, it boils down to organization of ebuilds and how they are being watched. A group that watches all isn't a good idea to me, my idea above makes more sense. Anyways, I've been trying to keep quiet on this issue and decided I could interject here :) Cheers- --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Lance Albertson
#x27;t make a system that's easily DoS'able. If anyone wants to help out with that, please contact KingTaco as he's the contact for that project right now. Patience is indeed a virtue. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Publi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Lance Albertson
an update to the bug every week until it gets completed. My guess (sparing any huge hurdles), is that we can have the new bugs up by the end of this month. That's including setting up the software, and testing it to make sure that the issues that's been occurring have been addressed. Che

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Lance Albertson
r help? I think you know how I'm feeling now then. I fail to see how the constant nagging helps the situation. The logic escapes me. There are more constructive ways of finding out the status of a problem/solution. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Opera

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Lance Albertson
recruiters *cough*swift*cough* could work faster ;-) ) Anyways, I'm not going to rant on about this anymore. We're working on the problem, and you just have to be patient. Cheers- -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public K

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Lance Albertson
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:51:55 -0500 Lance Albertson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | There are more constructive ways of finding out the status of a > | problem/solution. > > Actually, with that in mind I think the council could be of help here...

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Lance Albertson
Chris Bainbridge wrote: > Hi, > > On 03/08/06, Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You have no concept of where the bottle neck is. The webserver hosting >> the cgi part isn't being loaded hardly at all. The database server is a >> pretty beefy box,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-03 Thread Lance Albertson
pen on the > slave and writes on the master. However you would need to change most of > the queries to point to the slave server which is usually not trivial. > It sounds like this is the path the Infra team is pursuing. 1++ You got it right :-) -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2006-08-04 Thread Lance Albertson
tioned the table locking issues at some point somewhere. I haven't looked at the bug, so you can prove me wrong. I thought we had explained those issues somewhere (maybe -core?). But yeah, I totally agree. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manag

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo's Social Contract & Bugzilla

2006-08-04 Thread Lance Albertson
titled to it. That's just how I view it when I read it. Its a bit vague on what Gentoo really is. Is it talking only about the meta distribution? Or that plus the underlying supporting systems that help run Gentoo? -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operati

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for advanced useflag-syntax

2006-08-08 Thread Lance Albertson
ctly say at this point ? > > Install only xlib ? > Install xlib and some further ones ? Which ones ? > Install all libs ? Opening an ebuild and reading it must be hard. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for advanced useflag-syntax

2006-08-08 Thread Lance Albertson
Enrico Weigelt wrote: > * Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > >>> And what does this flag exactly say at this point ? >>> >>> Install only xlib ? >>> Install xlib and some further ones ? Which ones ? >>> Inst

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-22 Thread Lance Albertson
if we can't deal with each other in a semi-professional manner. It seems like mini-flame explosions on irc/email have happened more frequently in the last few months. This is just going to make the group implode if nothing is done about it. Anyways, that's my thoughts. -- Lance Al

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-22 Thread Lance Albertson
Simon Stelling wrote: > Lance Albertson wrote: >> Frankly, the attitude of a lot devs lately towards infra >> have made many of us not want to communicate what we're doing. If we're > > I can understand that, partly. But that won't help anyone. Assuming &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

2006-08-22 Thread Lance Albertson
Simon Stelling wrote: > Lance Albertson wrote: >> I generally try to do that, but after the 10th time the person doesn't >> respect you and demands things from you, its kind of hard to keep that >> mentality. > > Well, one out of >300. Simply do it for someone

Re: [gentoo-dev] Democracy: No silver bullet

2006-08-24 Thread Lance Albertson
kind of fork happens where the folks who think we need a leader go their way and the folks who prefer the leader-by-committee approach go their way. We all hate forks, none of us have time for forks, but looking at the dividing line, I don't see how we'll be able to compromise with out adding

Re: [gentoo-dev] Democracy: No silver bullet

2006-08-24 Thread Lance Albertson
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 08:42:48 -0500 Lance Albertson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | I'm afraid those days are in the past unless some kind of fork happens > | where the folks who think we need a leader go their way and the folks > | who pref

Re: [gentoo-dev] Democracy: No silver bullet

2006-08-24 Thread Lance Albertson
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 09:11:52 -0500 Lance Albertson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | I partially agree that a strong council will help the situation, but > | the problem with any leadership-by-committee model is the lack of > | quick decisions. Many

Re: [gentoo-dev] Democracy: No silver bullet

2006-08-24 Thread Lance Albertson
ing it. Anyways, I'm not going to take any more flame bait since I'm sick and tired of this shit. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A

Re: [gentoo-dev] Democracy: No silver bullet

2006-08-24 Thread Lance Albertson
Homer Parker wrote: > On Thu, 2006-08-24 at 13:14 -0500, Lance Albertson wrote: >> For the record, I was waiting for those folks to come to us to resolve >> it. Last I knew we had a partial resolution with the parties involved, >> but shortly after that they just stopped pur

Re: [gentoo-dev] Democracy: No silver bullet

2006-08-24 Thread Lance Albertson
at it doesn't happen again. So aside from the perceived outcome, we did fix a few issues that we had with that. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544

Re: [gentoo-dev] Democracy: No silver bullet

2006-08-25 Thread Lance Albertson
policies you come up with, they mean absolutely nothing if you can't actively deal with the consequences. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites for www-apps/drupal

2006-09-11 Thread Lance Albertson
of us opting for filing a compliant rather than work with the person individually first. > You can always revert the mask also; most developers have cvs commit > access (I know you do). -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public K

Re: [gentoo-dev] The Seed Project - Try 2

2006-09-21 Thread Lance Albertson
or send em an email with your thoughts on how hosting might work so we can start planning that? Thanks- -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282

Re: [gentoo-dev] The Seed Project - Try 2

2006-09-21 Thread Lance Albertson
this project's future) Except that where do you host those first few releases? I'm pretty sure we can stick them in experimental, but for the long run infra should be in communication with this group so that we can make an effective plan on hosting. Thanks- -- Lance Albertson <[EMA

Re: [gentoo-dev] seeds, GLEPs, and projects

2006-09-21 Thread Lance Albertson
x27;re ready' is done. Its kind of a 'peer' review type of thing and it also builds trust/communication between all of us. This whole issue boils down to accountability and communication. We want to make sure that We (gentoo) as a whole can be accountable for a project that is cre

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The Seed Project - Try 2

2006-09-24 Thread Lance Albertson
Ryan Hill wrote: > Lance Albertson wrote: > >> From my point of view, it would have been nice to have at least been >> asked what infra could do to host these tarballs down the road. That >> way, we have a sound plan of doing a good release when they're ready. I &

Re: [gentoo-dev] Spider's Resignation from the Project

2006-10-12 Thread Lance Albertson
oo is much less personal now than it was > "back in the day", but it does, at least, make things look less > malicious. I often wondered if people's filters would muck away such retirement bugs sometimes. Perhaps devrel might send personal emails along side bug emails

[gentoo-dev] IMPORTANT: forums/bugs/etc downtime

2006-10-26 Thread Lance Albertson
y and is expected to only take an hour. Sorry about the issues this may cause! -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5AB1 4D07 416F A15D 27F4

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-06 Thread Lance Albertson
put changes" crap. I can't believe what I read on here... People, this whole thread is silly and a disgrace to our user base to even read. I'm half tempted to submit iggy's vote-devs-off-the-island GLEP :P (Thanks SpankY for reminding me about that). Cheers- -- Lance Albert

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-07 Thread Lance Albertson
t forwarding. Cox (rhyme it as you will), my cable provider, > doesn't allow 25 to leave their network. To send mail, I *have* to relay > through their mail servers. Then use port 587 like I do and it works perfectly fine. I have Cox and don't have any problems sending gentoo mail th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-07 Thread Lance Albertson
can get around that, but as you've seen Kurt/Andrea have already made up their mind. I let them deal with the mail system so they have a say on that for now. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.ne

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-07 Thread Lance Albertson
e a hard time wanting to help them. I can't control what Kurt does/says so that's out of my control. I didn't exactly like his response either but he wanted to take care of mail so that's what he's doing. Respect around here lately has been at an all time low and I'm g

[gentoo-dev] IMPORTANT: lists.g.o hardware issues

2006-11-23 Thread Lance Albertson
ou all when we make the switch. In the meantime, if you notice list mail being slow, you'll know why. Sorry about the inconvenience! Thanks- -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc>

Re: [gentoo-dev] IMPORTANT: lists.g.o hardware issues

2006-11-25 Thread Lance Albertson
Lance Albertson wrote: > We've been having some hardware issues with the machine that runs > lists.g.o in the last week or so. Unfortunately, lcars (the person who > manages it) is going out of town this weekend and won't be able to > troubleshoot it while he's gone. T

[gentoo-dev] IMPORTANT: bugs/packages/planet/etc downtime

2006-11-30 Thread Lance Albertson
PST or 2200 UTC today. Unless something comes up, plan for about an hour downtime for that today. Thanks- -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5AB

[gentoo-dev] Re: IMPORTANT: bugs/packages/planet/etc downtime

2006-11-30 Thread Lance Albertson
Lance Albertson wrote: > We're going to be finally moving the last two machines at the OSL to the > new datacenter later this afternoon. The scheduled time will be 2pm PST > or 2200 UTC today. Unless something comes up, plan for about an hour > downtime for that today. Bot

[gentoo-dev] IMPORTANT: CVS/mastermirror downtime

2006-12-14 Thread Lance Albertson
this, but we'll just have to deal with it. Lets hope this is all we need to do for tonight. Cheers- -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 128

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] IMPORTANT: CVS/mastermirror downtime

2006-12-15 Thread Lance Albertson
Lance Albertson wrote: > I'm really sorry about this, but we'll just have to deal with it. Lets > hope this is all we need to do for tonight. So when the shit hits the fan, it *really* hits the fan... As of now, we still have both machines down. Lark is apparently having some

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] IMPORTANT: CVS/mastermirror downtime

2006-12-15 Thread Lance Albertson
Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 09:36:51AM -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: >> So when the shit hits the fan, it *really* hits the fan... > > Ok folks, both machines are back! > > You can resume your commits. > > Many thanks to: > nnewton [of

Re: [gentoo-core] Re: [gentoo-dev] bugstest.gentoo.org - public beta for the new Gentoo BugZilla - please test!

2006-12-25 Thread Lance Albertson
;ve been working the past few days on it and am getting close. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5AB1 4D07 416F A15D 27F4 B742 ramereth/irc

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 36: providing both CVS and Subversion?

2005-04-10 Thread Lance Albertson
ly on Pylon to help with this. So please just be patient and we'll get this rolling soon. Bugging me or other people about will not get you anywhere :P We'll let you all know when its been implemented and ready for consumption. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastruct

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 36: providing both CVS and Subversion?

2005-04-10 Thread Lance Albertson
lematic, ping me, I don't > mind hosting another few bits on gentooexperimental.org Its just copyright issues that I'm sure we could work around. Besides, you can't even handle a little /.'ing ;) -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations

[gentoo-dev] Trustee ML archive status

2005-04-12 Thread Lance Albertson
s a bad thing (tm). Once again, I'm sorry it hasn't been working for the past few months, but hopefully that will start to change soon. I will send out an email when its back! Cheers, -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operational Manager ---

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving the updated apache and associated ebuilds back into package.mask

2005-04-15 Thread Lance Albertson
7;t in package.mask. I just fear if we continue to push these changes on the current 2.0.x line will continue to piss off a lot of people. Cheers, -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- Public GPG key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving the updated apache and associated ebuilds back into package.mask

2005-04-20 Thread Lance Albertson
ted by the time they move to the next stable release. Asking people to suddenly change midway through is a major pain. If they knew that these kinds of changes were going to happen in >2.0.x, then it would be easier for them to manage. Cheers, -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ge

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving the updated apache and associated ebuilds back into package.mask

2005-04-20 Thread Lance Albertson
Christian Parpart wrote: > On Wednesday 20 April 2005 2:14 pm, Lance Albertson wrote: > >>Christian Parpart wrote: >> >>>And yeah, I disagree to a move-back, too!! I'm most likely not to support >>>this in any kind, instead, I'd be willing in pushi

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: logrotate

2005-04-28 Thread Lance Albertson
gt; have done up until now. A user can either run logrotate or not. This > isn't about turning on a feature, it's about saving 4k. I don't think > it's worth it; I feel like USE flags are getting completely out of > control. Not everyone uses logrotate (its optional i

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Gentoo/FreeBSD leader

2005-04-29 Thread Lance Albertson
(Stephen >>| Bennett). >> >>N! What have you done? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? THE EARTH IS DMED, I >>SAY! DMED! > > > mwuahahahahahah. Just remember, I still own you ;-) -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone use wolk-sources?

2005-04-30 Thread Lance Albertson
, so we don't currently have a need for it from that side of things. I'll report back when I find out whats going on! -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerpri

Re: [gentoo-dev] Anyone use wolk-sources?

2005-05-01 Thread Lance Albertson
On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 12:04 +0100, Daniel Drake wrote: > Lance Albertson wrote: > > I was actually just thinking about WOLK today and how I never got around > > to putting the newest builds in the tree. For now keep them in there. > > I'll email upstream to see if whats

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo could become certified for IBM Server Hardware

2005-05-04 Thread Lance Albertson
support it. Gentoo needs a profile for > | a LSB-compliant system. > > Don't be silly. Actually, he does have a point. I know a lot of folks gripe that linux doesn't have any standard FS layout of where files are etc. If something like this could be implemented, it would make tho

Re: [gentoo-dev] Policy on RESTRICT=[no]mirror and use of mirror://foo/

2005-05-05 Thread Lance Albertson
ge and revert the RESTRICT ... i just do it when i > happen to notice it updating old ebuilds We could make a couple of bugs for each category and get those folks to fixing them. But then that would require a lot of work and I know we're all just a bunch of lazy bums anyways ;)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Policy on RESTRICT=[no]mirror and use of mirror://foo/

2005-05-05 Thread Lance Albertson
Corey Shields wrote: > On Thursday 05 May 2005 03:06 pm, Lance Albertson wrote: > >>We could make a couple of bugs for each category and get those folks to >>fixing them. But then that would require a lot of work and I know we're all >>just a bunch of lazy bums any

Re: [gentoo-dev] Policy on RESTRICT=[no]mirror and use of mirror://foo/

2005-05-07 Thread Lance Albertson
out we leave it a bit more open for interpretation? Yeah, thanks for not putting those on our mirrors :) See my previous email about a possible way to determine what goes on the mirrors. Maybe we have a limit at which those devs should ask our mirror admins if the file can be added or not (say, anyt

[gentoo-dev] Trustee ML Archives

2005-05-07 Thread Lance Albertson
elves, etc). Also thank blackace for getting it back up! [1] http://archives.gentoo.org/ml/gentoo-trustees/ -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5AB

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Trustee ML Archives

2005-05-07 Thread Lance Albertson
On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 15:54 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Lance Albertson wrote: > > Just thought I'd mention that the archives [1] are back up for the > > trustee mailing list. Its still being worked on, but most

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Trustee ML Archives

2005-05-07 Thread Lance Albertson
On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 18:38 -0500, Lance Albertson wrote: > On Sat, 2005-05-07 at 15:54 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Lance Albertson wrote: > > > Just thought I'd mention that the archives [1]

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Will Gentoo be at Linux World Expo San Fran?

2005-05-08 Thread Lance Albertson
an Fransisco the end of this > > month? -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- Public GPG key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5AB1 4D07 416F A15D 27F4 B742 ramereth/irc.freenode.net

Re: [gentoo-dev] List of packages which 'inherit gcc'

2005-05-15 Thread Lance Albertson
to have used the wrong tree (a bit outdated CVS instead > livetree, sorry). Here is a new list which still consists of 161 items > and should be uptodate: Probably best to make a bug to track this instead of tracking it on a ML :) Cheers, -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infr

Re: [gentoo-dev] mysql-4.1.12 call for testers

2005-05-17 Thread Lance Albertson
icial MySQL AB binaries. Great work! I used his 4.1.11 ebuild recently and everything seems to work pretty well. I'll see if I can try the 4.1.12 ebuild soon. Upgrades within the 4.1.x series shouldn't be painful right? Cheers, -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gent

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: slight deunofficialisation of Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide

2005-05-22 Thread Lance Albertson
gt; rather than simply doing it. > > Infra -- this is about three megs of static content. I very much doubt > that this will cause any noticeable disc or bandwidth load. I have no problem with this being on your dev space. Great job! -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gento

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: sys-pam category

2005-06-05 Thread Lance Albertson
yically delete the binary package and recreate it for the category to be fixed. Sadly, I haven't had time to search for a bug on it. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key f

Re: [gentoo-dev] where goes Gentoo?

2005-06-06 Thread Lance Albertson
le. They've shown a good userbase that likes how it works and the tools with it. I for see something simliar happening to an enterprise sub-project (or whatever you'd call it). Heck, maybe this idea would be better fit as a fork, who knows. Would be neat to have a group of people working

Re: [gentoo-dev] where goes Gentoo?

2005-06-06 Thread Lance Albertson
roviding tools, etc for folks in the enterprise. Let the people who want to use Gentoo as a 'hobbist' distro use it like that, and let the people that want to use it in the enterprise use it as that. Btw, I'm hoping to get this said sub-project going once I get settled in with my m

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-1.11.12-r2 request for testers

2005-06-08 Thread Lance Albertson
gt; to get new baselayout stable asap', we're serious > > > > last chance ! > > and it's done NOooo1!!!!!!! ;-) Thanks for working on that upgrade! -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: &

Re: [gentoo-dev] a #g-d first impression might represent process and metastructure

2005-06-08 Thread Lance Albertson
ably be to post a thread on this mailing list to get more exposure. Of course, you could include your nickname for IRC, but this or the forums would be a great place to get 'noticed' per say if it really would be something to add to Gentoo. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of articles.xml from website

2005-06-09 Thread Lance Albertson
somewhere. (Just may not be easily searchable) -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5AB1 4D07 416F A15D 27F4 B742 ramereth/irc.freenode.net sig

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: New Bugzilla resolution: NEEDMAINTAINER

2005-06-13 Thread Lance Albertson
I > don't recall any negative points being raised. A new-ebuilds alias was created on toucan few months back. I guess word never got out (or seemant never setup the account on bugzilla). Perhaps it would be better just to reassign bugs to that account instead of making another resolution.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: New Bugzilla resolution: NEEDMAINTAINER

2005-06-13 Thread Lance Albertson
w-ebuilds probably wouldn't fit this as well. If seemant is up for it, we could just use something like need-maintainers or something simliar to that name? If we did that, would we still need the resolution? -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Metastructure vote preliminary results

2005-06-13 Thread Lance Albertson
e spoken up to suggest we keep the polls open longer than a week considering the amount of material we needed to go through, but I didn't get a chance between things. That's my fault for not addressing that concern. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructur

Re: [gentoo-dev] Final proposal: New alias maintainer-needed@g.o or some such (speak now or forever hold your peace ;) )

2005-06-15 Thread Lance Albertson
s like the two should fit together fine. Let me find seemant and see what he thinks since he's kind of in charge of bug-wrangler stuff. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fi

Re: [gentoo-dev] List of aging ebuilds?

2005-06-17 Thread Lance Albertson
ver to run it on? > > I've asked that myself every now and then. aliz seems lost.. > Guess we/I should recode it. I have no problem hosting this on our servers officially somewhere, just need to find the code or rewrite it as you said. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> G

[gentoo-dev] IMPORTANT: Server outages

2005-06-28 Thread Lance Albertson
f Freenode will be affected too, so complaining on IRC won't do much for ya ;). There will be another outage for a similar amount of time at 0900UTC on July 3. I will send out an announcement in a few days as a reminder for that. Ok, hopefully I didn't forget any services, enjoy!

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-28 Thread Lance Albertson
e the need for having an alias for email contact. If they want to do more than moderate, thats their will and can take the ebuild quiz for that or can discuss that with recruiters. Cheers, -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-28 Thread Lance Albertson
On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 17:34 -0500, Lance Albertson wrote: > On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 00:20 +0200, Christian Hartmann wrote: > > > To host patches, docs etc. Just like every other devs/staff guy does > > atm. (Sure. toucan isn't meant to be a download server and we&#x

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project

2005-06-28 Thread Lance Albertson
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 03:32 +0200, Lars Weiler wrote: > * Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05/06/28 18:14 -0500]: > > I'm just getting ansty about all these new people we're bringing > > "New people"? You're joking, aren't you? Some of th

Re: [gentoo-dev] remove app-doc/ebook-*

2005-06-30 Thread Lance Albertson
>> Wolfgang Illmeyer wrote:[Thu Jun 30 2005, 12:40:21PM EDT] >> >> >>> Calculating dependencies - >>> emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "dev-uitl/kdevelop". I thought we fixed this problem. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-05 Thread Lance Albertson
when the security contact is >> unreachable). >>2. This information will be held on the Dev Wiki. > > > wtf is the Dev Wiki ? what's wrong with metadata.xml ? Yeah, having it in metadata.xml would make more sense. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo In

Re: [gentoo-dev] GET ME OF THIS LIST!

2005-07-11 Thread Lance Albertson
re and it will be seen rather than spamming the list. Cheers, -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5AB1 4D07 416F A15D 27F4 B742 ramereth/irc.freenode.net signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] IMPORTANT: Network maintenance

2005-08-03 Thread Lance Albertson
Hey all, All our servers located at IU (which includes a few rsync servers and toucan) will have a network outage of approximately one hour tomorrow (Aug 4) between 0600-0700 CDT (1100-1200 UTC). Hopefully all goes well and we don't notice them gone that long. Cheers, -- Lance Albe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: where goes Gentoo?

2005-08-05 Thread Lance Albertson
with Gentoo on archiving its goals. It would be nice to come up with a solution without forking, but I just don't see how it'd be possible and keep things as they should in an enterprise realm. Things are starting to settle down for me again and I would like to jumpstart this project again.

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild design issue regarding some {I need the lib and api only}-DEPENDs

2005-08-18 Thread Lance Albertson
min, not a coder so I'll got back to my cave. ;) -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5AB1 4D07 416F A15D 27F4 B742 ramereth/irc.free

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo.tamperd.net/stable

2005-08-19 Thread Lance Albertson
27;t host this for you? We have a mysql database at the OSL we can use and a box to host it on if you need it. Just let me/us know. > I will be posting the messages to this malinglis once a day as before. > > If you have any comments or suggestions please mail me. -- Lance Alber

Re: [gentoo-dev] crap use flags in the profiles

2005-08-24 Thread Lance Albertson
erver' based profile we have. Granted, if you don't want the extra goodies you get with a hardened system, that is an issue, but this is one option we have. I look at their profile as a great model for the server end of things. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [gentoo-dev] combining x86 and amd64

2005-09-01 Thread Lance Albertson
they should ;-). I have seen more and more 'newish' devs speaking their minds like this without even knowing/asking the person. I guess respect and tactfulness isn't being taught anymore... And yes, Grant definitely knows the difference :-) Cheers, -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council meeting, Thursday 15th, 1900 UTC

2005-09-12 Thread Lance Albertson
7;t want to end up supporting every framework out there just because its cool. If you're using something other than what we're currently using, I would like to see justification for using it beyond "its a call framework". Anyways, we have the space open for it, just haven't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council meeting, Thursday 15th, 1900 UTC

2005-09-13 Thread Lance Albertson
e limits of what we were elected for (we > won't replace project leads or devrel). The actual powers/role of devrel has always been a grey area. Perhaps it is time that the Council formalize their position so people know exactly what they can/can't do. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PRO

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council meeting, Thursday 15th, 1900 UTC

2005-09-13 Thread Lance Albertson
Jon Portnoy wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 07:33:59AM -0500, Lance Albertson wrote: > >>The actual powers/role of devrel has always been a grey area. > > > No it hasn't, unless by 'gray area' you mean 'a few people who don't > like devrel

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council meeting, Thursday 15th, 1900 UTC

2005-09-13 Thread Lance Albertson
olving developer issues. If QA has done all it can to help improve someone or deal with their problems, then devrel can take over it. Give the power to the right people so they can do the right kind of work and decisions. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operation

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council meeting, Thursday 15th, 1900 UTC

2005-09-13 Thread Lance Albertson
've always made sure any permanent removals go through devrel first. -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- GPG Public Key: <http://www.ramereth.net/lance.asc> Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5AB1 4D07 416F A15D 27F4 B742 ramereth/irc.freenode.net signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Agenda for Gentoo Council meeting, Thursday 15th, 1900UTC

2005-09-14 Thread Lance Albertson
Thierry Carrez wrote: > Tentative Agenda for Thursday's meeting : > If I forgot anything (that was put on the agenda by 1900 UTC yesterday) > please let me know. Where are we meeting again? :) Same place as before? -- Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Infrast

Re: [gentoo-dev] "Commercial" software in portage

2005-09-21 Thread Lance Albertson
tation until GLEP 23 is implemented, or something that will complement it? Whats going to happen to this data after GLEP23 gets implemented? I'd hate to see something added simply because its a quick one-off solution to make something work. I'd rather see people focus on the actual GLEP

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting Important Updates To Users

2005-10-31 Thread Lance Albertson
or who ever) does the posting at both places. > I'm going to say as much on our ML reform "list" and add you to the CC. Is lcars on this "list" ? If not, I really think he should be since he's the current maintainer of the mailing lists and knows the limitations/cap

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting Important Updates To Users

2005-10-31 Thread Lance Albertson
gt; bother to check them. If we were to change that, I'm sure users would > eventually pick up on the fact. I would agree with Chris here too. As long as we start using this channel more and we get the word out, folks will start to be more attentive to it. We can't satisfy every

Re: [gentoo-dev] Getting Important Updates To Users

2005-10-31 Thread Lance Albertson
Stuart Herbert wrote: > On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 08:40 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > >>>Well, I think that if users knew that information would be on these >>>places, they might actually check them. Currently, little to no >>>information ever makes it to either o

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