Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

I'm going to add this to this discussion: We still don't know the denominator of how many cases there actually are. Or even how many digits are in that number. If you take the 'confirmed cases' today worldwide and divide it by the deaths, this results in a 7% fatality rate for *confirmed* cases.

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

The CCR 2004 can take the same +- 48 vDC power supply as the current generation CCR1016 and CCR1036. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Kurt Fankhauser" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave User

Re: [AFMUG] New unlicensed spectrum

ULS is just the data set that will be used - the software and hardware will be state-of-the-art. > On Apr 24, 2020, at 5:37 PM, Caleb Knauer wrote: > > ULS is gonna have to get way more gerbils, it barely runs on a good day. > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 8:25 AM Tim Hardy wrote: >> >> Everyone

Re: [AFMUG] New unlicensed spectrum

Radio is not eligible for 7 GHz > On Apr 25, 2020, at 8:56 AM, Mike Hammett > wrote: > > Shouldn't they be in 7 GHz? > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > >

Re: [AFMUG] New unlicensed spectrum

Actually, they are eligible but only in the same areas that other Part 101 licensees would be eligible. They are not eligible under Part 74. > On Apr 26, 2020, at 8:10 AM, Tim Hardy wrote: > > Radio is not eligible for 7 GHz > >> On Apr 25, 2020, at 8:56 AM, Mike Hammett >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

I relate to this.  The real answer right now is "we don't know what the real answer is". Frustrating as hell. On 4/26/2020 3:14 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: I'm going to add this to this discussion: We still don't know the denominator of how many cases there actually are.   O

Re: [AFMUG] New unlicensed spectrum

I'm happy they're doing this. My only question is which devices can do 6ghz with just a firmware change and which ones need new hardware? On 4/24/2020 5:37 PM, Caleb Knauer wrote: ULS is gonna have to get way more gerbils, it barely runs on a good day. On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 8:25 AM Tim Ha

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun

From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 10:52 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun I'm getting a haircut and shave tommorrow. You may all bow before me. On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 11:39 AM Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmai

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

Actually, the 1016/1036 are 24VDC, not 48VDC. The 1009 is 48VDC. On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 7:47 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > The CCR 2004 can take the same +- 48 vDC power supply as the current > generation CCR1016 and CCR1036. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

https://mikrotik.com/product/pw48v_12v85w - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Josh Baird" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 7:54:56 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

Steve, the usual solution is for nervous dwelling beings to engage in “spring cleaning”, to the annoyance of all other dwelling beings. https://www.gocomics.com/breaking-cat-news/2020/04/26 From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 12:27 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave

Re: [AFMUG] New unlicensed spectrum

Is there a reason that can't be changed to accommodate radio? Why can't it all just be part 101? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Tim Hardy" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

So this can be used on the newer 1036 models? Older ones did not accept 48VDC. > On Apr 26, 2020, at 9:03 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > >  > https://mikrotik.com/product/pw48v_12v85w > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

Sweet, thanks. Wonder if this works with CRS317, it does have redundant PSU as well. Sorry for the hi-jack. > On Apr 26, 2020, at 9:31 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > >  > It can be used on any of the dual power supply 1016s or 1036s... or now the > 2004. > > The 1009 has a different power supp

Re: [AFMUG] New unlicensed spectrum

Part 101 has spectral efficiency rules that most part 15 type radios cannot achieve. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 26, 2020, at 7:17 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > >  > Is there a reason that can't be changed to accommodate radio? > > Why can't it all just be part 101? > > > > - > Mike Hamm

Re: [AFMUG] New unlicensed spectrum

I meant Part 74 vs. part 101. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 8:48:12 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ne

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfLVxx_lBLU&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2Z1n4E0sxMyXc82UZxrXNKJqf9oaC_kF53Be6NZaVPnuP8jwTDKxk5w4g From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 8:13 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT

[AFMUG] OT We will all find out

The interesting thing about the virus and politics is that we will all be able to see how well the various politicians protected their constituents. There will be no room for opinion or spin. Open too early and you get a double bump. I imagine the double bump will get politicians fired. --

Re: [AFMUG] OT We will all find out

Continual bumps are unavoidable until mass vaccination or herd immunity. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 9:54:50 AM

Re: [AFMUG] OT We will all find out

That is the conventional wisdom, but I wonder. China is now claiming they have zero COVID-19 patients in their hospitals. Now I believe that about as far as I can throw the country of China with my left hand. If we can get some sort of modified isola

Re: [AFMUG] OT We will all find out

Not true. Look at Spanish flu graphs. Depended on the community and the rules of the community. This will be no different. There was no mass vaccination then. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 8:56 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT We will all

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

Does it bug anyone else that this "doctor" says that we aren't treating this like other epidemics and quarantining the sick, when Covid-19 IS NOT LIKE OTHER epidemics.   It has a 2-10 day period of being contagious _without_ symptoms. I was agreeing with him up until that point.     Then h

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

There is so much we don't know for a number of frustrating reasons. One is the asymptomatic infection problem, and how long that lasts. The other is that the symptoms are "similar" to the flu, and sometimes other things. One headline that caught my attenti

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

After the fact, large numbers of antibody testing will tell the tale. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 9:23 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal There is so much we don't know for a number of frustrating reasons. One is the asymptomatic infection prob

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

What happens if we learn that you are not immune after having had it before... We all just presume that there may be a herd immunity feature available to us. Perhaps not. Perhaps isolation, hard quarantining and hopefully an effective treatment is the only way out... From: Bill Prince Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] New unlicensed spectrum

That’s what Part 101 licensees back in the day requested but NAB and the broadcasters raised hell. So, we are left with exclusion zones wherever there’s a licensed eng area. > On Apr 26, 2020, at 9:49 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > I meant Part 74 vs. part 101. > > > > - > Mike Hammett >

Re: [AFMUG] New unlicensed spectrum

Seems like in times where we're overturning old, silly decisions, there should be more usage of 101 in 74 space. Not the tiny channels they have either, but properly good sized channels. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] OT We will all find out

I think you underestimate the ability of politicians to curve reality..   But we can hope! On 4/26/20 7:54 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: The interesting thing about the virus and politics is that we will all be able to see how well the various politicians protected their constituents.  There wil

Re: [AFMUG] OT We will all find out

I have no such faith. We are all geniuses and wizards when coupled with hindsight. I won't be participating. On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 10:55 AM wrote: > The interesting thing about the virus and politics is that we will all be > able to see how well the various politicians protected their const

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

There was just an interesting article written that lamented how inaccurate coroners have been on cause of death for the whole existence of coroners...   Like 50% accurate.   Why would they get better now? On 4/26/20 8:23 AM, Bill Prince wrote: There is so much we don't know for a number of fr

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

WHEN they start using the accurate tests... On 4/26/20 8:33 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: After the fact, large numbers of antibody testing will tell the tale. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2020 9:23 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal There is so mu

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

Well, I am slowly coming to accept reality that we could be seriously f'd...  And just exist with the situation.   Anyone want to buy stock in graveyards?  Oh yeah, the return will be realized by our heirs... On 4/26/20 8:38 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: What happens if we learn that you are not i

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

It seems they are talking that you may need antibodies + T-cells for immunity, just a positive antibody test may not say you are immune. But the WHO statements seem to say there is no proof regarding immunity, in other words they don’t know yet. It’s like Kim Jong Un, he may be dead, he may be

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

Because 100% of deaths in Utah are tested for Coronavirus... From: Robert Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 10:07 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal There was just an interesting article written that lamented how inaccurate coroners have been on cause of death for the w

Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out

Awesome, I did not know this conversion kit existed. https://www.balticnetworks.com/docs/PW48-12V85W.pdf On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 9:38 AM Josh Baird wrote: > Sweet, thanks. Wonder if this works with CRS317, it does have redundant > PSU as well. > > Sorry for the hi-jack. > > On Apr 26, 2020, at

Re: [AFMUG] OT We will all find out

I have faith that we will have someone to blame... From: justsumname . Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 10:05 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT We will all find out I have no such faith. We are all geniuses and wizards when coupled with hindsight. I won't be partic

Re: [AFMUG] New unlicensed spectrum

not many, a different post said the AF5XHD/LTU line can go up to 6200mhz but that's it. Sounds like will need all new hardware to be produced by the manufactures which I am ok with. On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 8:46 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > I'm happy they're doing this. > > My only question is which

[AFMUG] name of a jack

What was the designator for data jacks that loop back when you unplug the cord?-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] name of a jack

On 4/26/20 9:39 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: What was the designator for data jacks that loop back when you unplug the cord? RJ48X maybe? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] name of a jack

Fancy - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 11:39:52 AM Subject: [AFMUG] name of a jack What was the designator for d

Re: [AFMUG] name of a jack

Maybe, not finding a drawing or pinout. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 10:42 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] name of a jack On 4/26/20 9:39 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: What was the designator for data jacks that loop back when you un

Re: [AFMUG] OT We will all find out

I was listening to a guy that brought up a good point. We havent vaccinated a coronavirus yet, so this reliance on the pending vaccine is pie in the sky. Was a good point. Look at HIV, what is it, almost 40 years, and no vaccine, just now having truly effective treatment On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 10:1

Re: [AFMUG] name of a jack

Really looking for a card edge connector where the contacts touch each other when the card is not in place. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 10:42 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] name of a jack On 4/26/20 9:39 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: W

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

Why is utah so for ahead on the testing? Is it something to do with Mormonism and the teamwork thing or unrelated? On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 11:16 AM wrote: > Because 100% of deaths in Utah are tested for Coronavirus... > > *From:* Robert > *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2020 10:07 AM > *To:* af@af.afmug

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

Utah seems to be far ahead of the curve...   Yep the mormons understand disease... On 4/26/20 9:16 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Because 100% of deaths in Utah are tested for Coronavirus... *From:* Robert *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2020 10:07 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

Not the only way. We could just open everything back up and let those that have resistance win the day. Eventually, things will level out, burial related industries will struggle to keep up for a while but that will also even out. On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 10:39 AM wrote: > What happens if we lear

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

Why must it be one of two things, completely locked down or completely free? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Lewis Bergman" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Sunday, Ap

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

I think we are pretty good at top down organization and rule following. The LDS church has a huge amount of sway over the state government. Actually at all levels. The good thing is that the upper echelons of the LDS church is populated by highly educated people. The president of the church

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

Here is the roster of the 14 guys at the top and their former professions: Russell M. NelsonFamous heart surgeon Dallin H. OaksJustice of Utah Supreme Court M. Russell BallardBallard Motor Company – Businessman Jeffrey R. HollandPresident BYU Henry B. EyringPresident Ri

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

Brings up a Quote that someone once told me about an hour after I found out my mom had been killed by a drunk driver.   I was sailboat racing in BVI at the time.   "It's all unimportant ( referring to all the other stuff we do ) when someone dear to us dies )... On 4/26/20 10:07 AM, Lewis Berg

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

The flip side of herd immunity is culling the herd. We could go one way or the other. bp On 4/26/2020 8:38 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: What happens if we learn that you are not immune after having had it be

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

Utah is up there, but not in the lead. Rhode Island is #1 in testing, followed (in order) by New York, Massachusetts, Louisiana, then Utah. bp On 4/26/2020 9:57 AM, Steve Jones wrote: Why is utah so for ahead on

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

The women are there and more prominent then in times past but they still cannot hold the priesthood. So until that changes it will be run mostly by white old men. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 26, 2020, at 11:40 AM, Robert wrote: > >  Good group to rely on, but women? > > On 4/26/20 10:22 A

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

Louisiana surprised me. Not many things do they excel in. Propositional ending intentional... Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 26, 2020, at 11:44 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > >  > Utah is up there, but not in the lead. Rhode Island is #1 in testing, > followed (in order) by New York, Massachusetts

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

Prepositional... Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 26, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Louisiana surprised me. Not many things do they excel in. Propositional > ending intentional... > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Apr 26, 2020, at 11:44 AM, Bill Prince wrote: >>> >>  >> Utah is

Re: [AFMUG] New unlicensed spectrum

That's my preferred solution. I do t like hardware being tweaked to function in its operational edge. Dirty noise On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 11:24 AM Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > not many, a different post said the AF5XHD/LTU line can go up to 6200mhz > but that's it. Sounds like will need all new hardwa

Re: [AFMUG] New unlicensed spectrum

Agreed, but unfortunately guvment doesn't work that way > On Apr 26, 2020, at 11:57 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Seems like in times where we're overturning old, silly decisions, there > should be more usage of 101 in 74 space. > > Not the tiny channels they have either, but properly good sized

Re: [AFMUG] New unlicensed spectrum

Probably not, but we're had a lot of changes the last 10 years that we would have thought impossible 15 - 20 years ago. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Tim Hardy" To: "AnimalFarm M

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

No, “women” is not an abbreviation for “white old men”. From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 1:19 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal The women are there and more prominent then in times past but they still cannot

Re: [AFMUG] New unlicensed spectrum

I believe the FCC or its predecessor was actually created with radio in mind. Of course, TV and the Internet did not exist then. It often seems to me that the current FCC is on a mission to get rid of broadcast radio and TV, which puzzles me. They may die a natural death, but why is it gov

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

At least they aren't politicians... On 04/26/2020 11:18 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: The women are there and more prominent then in times past but they still cannot hold the priesthood. So until that changes it will be run mostly by white old men. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2020, at 11:40 A

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

Getting your inner Yoda on? If I were to speculate (and I am), I would guess that New Orleans had a bunch of visitors from all over the place during Mardi Gras. Everyone swapped droplets during the party, then everyone went home to spread it elsewhere. Some of the p

Re: [AFMUG] OT Dang, not normal

You also have a relatively small population at only a little over 3 million, and only a couple hundred thousand in Salt Lake, which is the largest. That means that your most dense areas are not all that dense, and there is a significant part of the population spre

[AFMUG] OT fogging insects

At my shop it is biting gnat/midge/no-see-um season. How do pygmies live in jungles... It is pretty miserably going outside at certain times of the day. Even mosquito netting over face is not fine enough to keep them out. In your ears, hair, nose, eyes. Arrgh. Anyone have any experience wit

Re: [AFMUG] OT fogging insects

30 some years ago my brother and I got a surplus fogger somewhere. I don't remember exactly where we got it but it had been used by either the DNR or the county to fog parks. I don't know how they used it but we mounted it to the roof of an old Jeep that I had at the time and drove around my p

Re: [AFMUG] OT fogging insects

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI-w-23IpwU It was basically the same concept as this thing only a lot bigger and put out lots more smoke. I had no idea they still made things like this. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 8:07 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] OT fogging insects

Okay. I'm done looking now but this is like a lot newer version of what we had: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlfM0QZ0UUM&t=174s From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of James Howard Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 8:11 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMU

Re: [AFMUG] OT fogging insects

May risk a trip to tractor supply as their web site says they have the juice. I can perhaps modify the exhaust of my side by side atv and try the same thing. From: James Howard Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 7:20 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT fogging insect

Re: [AFMUG] OT fogging insects

Interestingwe have those lil buggers here as well... My friend posted this https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10218062452166209&id=1034032335 On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 6:26 PM wrote: > At my shop it is biting gnat/midge/no-see-um season. How do pygmies live > in jungles... > It is pret

Re: [AFMUG] OT fogging insects

I'm guessing you weren't wearing the PPE that the guy in the video was wearing? On 4/26/20 6:10 PM, James Howard wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI-w-23IpwU It was basically the same concept as this thing only a lot bigger and put out lots more smoke. I had no idea they still made thi

Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp

[image: image.png] On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 11:41 AM wrote: > That could work. Cost? > > *From:* can...@believewireless.net > *Sent:* Friday, April 17, 2020 12:37 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT cameras with sfp > > What about this device? > > https://www.