Awesome, I did not know this conversion kit existed.
https://www.balticnetworks.com/docs/PW48-12V85W.pdf

On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 9:38 AM Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sweet, thanks.  Wonder if this works with CRS317, it does have redundant
> PSU as well.
>
> Sorry for the hi-jack.
>
> On Apr 26, 2020, at 9:31 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> 
> It can be used on any of the dual power supply 1016s or 1036s...  or now
> the 2004.
>
> The 1009 has a different power supply as does the 1072.
>
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> *From: *"Josh Baird" <joshba...@gmail.com>
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Sunday, April 26, 2020 8:22:23 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out
>
> So this can be used on the newer 1036 models?  Older ones did not accept
> 48VDC.
>
> On Apr 26, 2020, at 9:03 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> 
> https://mikrotik.com/product/pw48v_12v85w
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> *From: *"Josh Baird" <joshba...@gmail.com>
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Sunday, April 26, 2020 7:54:56 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out
>
> Actually, the 1016/1036 are 24VDC, not 48VDC.  The 1009 is 48VDC.
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 7:47 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> The CCR 2004 can take the same +- 48 vDC power supply as the current
>> generation CCR1016 and CCR1036.
>>
>>
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>> *From: *"Kurt Fankhauser" <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Sent: *Sunday, April 26, 2020 12:11:28 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out
>>
>> Is the power options for this CCR2004 only AC power? If so that is a
>> going to be a huge issue for most of the sites I have that are DC powered!
>> I need routers with 10G SFP+ ports that can be powered from DC/AC
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 12:24 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You guys all need to calm the heck down with this talk, you're gonna get
>>> us all killed. Look at what the lunatics are doing to the 5g operators.
>>> When they find out afmug is over here operating 25 40 and 100g networks,
>>> theyll send out armys of Karen's with the short hair to put our heads on
>>> pikes. We have worked too hard over the years building this industry up for
>>> us to all be skinned alive when Janet or Kyle find the afmug archive.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 8:04 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree if it's a transport system or a modern switch. If it's an older
>>>> switch, 40G is all it's got, no 25G and no 100G. Who buys new switches when
>>>> a switch is a switch and there's a large supply of older switches? Yes,
>>>> obviously there's a demand, but it's not going to be most of us in this
>>>> room.
>>>>
>>>> When I have actually gotten quotes for 40G transport, they were more
>>>> than 4x 10G and about the same as 100G (though I had no 100G equipment). In
>>>> those scenarios, a 25G wave would actually do great. Well, other than
>>>> needing new switches which aren't cheap.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In one facility in Indy, we offer 1G, 10G, 25G, 40G, and 100G.  :-)
>>>> We're rolling out 40G in another, but the rest will stay 10G for the time
>>>> being. I suppose we could always put a 25G customer on, just bypassing the
>>>> switch in that building and going right into the mux to the central switch.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> *From: *"Trey Scarborough" <t...@3dsc.co>
>>>> *To: *af@af.afmug.com
>>>> *Sent: *Friday, April 24, 2020 5:34:16 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out
>>>>
>>>> you are only comparing SFP transceiver cost. The reason why it is dead
>>>> is transport equipment and switch equipment you pretty much are burning a
>>>> 100G port to do 40g there are some 100G 2x40 transponders out there but
>>>> they are the same cost as a 200G  2x100G transponder so if you go to order
>>>> a 40G wave service it will cost you the same as a 100G maybe more if they
>>>> have to use an OTU4 to 40GLANPHY card. As well most switches being deployed
>>>> by providers are 100G/25G/10G and don't have 40G ports. so you hae to burn
>>>> a 100G port to provide 40G therefor the cost is priced accordingly.
>>>>
>>>> Is it dead in the data center space for the most part to because the
>>>> power requirements vs speed is horrible uses almost as much power as a 100G
>>>> and only get 40% of the bandwidth. The power for a 25G is comparable to
>>>> 10G. Starting to see 25G IX connection options as well.
>>>>
>>>> Don't worry you are going to start seeing a bunch more 25G options
>>>> coming out because the demand is growing. There are already companies
>>>> starting to sell 25G channelized DWDM optics. The price at the moment is
>>>> high because they are new and the demand is low, but will greatly reduce
>>>> the cost the more that the utilization grows.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/24/2020 10:07 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That is up for debate but we'll see in a few years.  I'd rather jump to
>>>> 40 than 25.  You almost defeated your own point stating you have a lot of
>>>> 40G laying around.  Price has come down on them and transceivers are not as
>>>> expensive either.  Personally I'd rather jump to 100 :)
>>>>
>>>> 40G transceivers I can get for most models for $55.  (short range)
>>>> Same price for 25G!  Why bother with 25?
>>>> Short range 100G are under $200 each.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Network Operations Manager
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>>>> *From: *"Kurt Fankhauser" <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
>>>> <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
>>>> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> *Sent: *Friday, April 24, 2020 10:03:36 AM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out
>>>>
>>>> Dennis,how many of these do you have on order?
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 9:42 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 25G will be far more common than 40G.
>>>>> 40G is dead and has been dead for years. I wish that wasn't so because
>>>>> I have a lot of 40G switches that I'd love to connect to things, but 
>>>>> that's
>>>>> not going to happen.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> *From: *"Steven Kenney" <st...@wavedirect.org>
>>>>> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>> *Sent: *Friday, April 24, 2020 8:38:00 AM
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out
>>>>>
>>>>> Ugh.. I was wondering when the 40Gbps version was coming out.  25 is
>>>>> kinda a black sheep in the industry.  Good luck matching equipment with
>>>>> upstreams.  I know they can get the cards but most are moving to 40 or 
>>>>> 100.
>>>>>
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>>>>> *From: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>> *Cc: *"Dennis Burgess" <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, April 23, 2020 2:17:51 PM
>>>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] CCR2004 coming out
>>>>>
>>>>>
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