[SAtalk] Sendmail and Spamassassin

2002-07-03 Thread Helen Best
Hi everyone I am having some trouble getting Spamassassin to install on our Sendmail Server (HPUX 10:20) I've installed Perl and all the necessary components, then tried installing Spamassassin - this then asks for other components - which are now installed. Spamassassin will now run the Makefi

Re: [SAtalk] Re: spamassassin 2.31 rpm

2002-07-03 Thread Kenneth Porter
On Tue, 2002-07-02 at 06:51, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > Thanks. :) As an FYI, I've had some RPMs available since 2.31's release > (mentioned on the SA-talk list as well): > with SRPM available at: > http://www.kluge.net/ftp/pub/felicity/SRPMS/spamassassin-2.31-1.src.rpm Can you add a Requires:

[SAtalk] I'm back!

2002-07-03 Thread Justin Mason
Hi all -- If anyone's been checking taint.org, they might have noticed that I'm back in contact -- although I'm taking my sweet time to get my mail setup working decently again ;) Anyway, some quick notes on SpamAssassin dev based on a skim of recent traffic: - regarding lists and 'my address'

[SAtalk] duplicate rule: FROM_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL

2002-07-03 Thread Justin Mason
FROM_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL was already implemented as FROM_NAME_EQ_FROM_ADDR ;) Does it make sense to keep the older one and delete FROM_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL? --j. -- 'Justin Mason' => { url => 'http://jmason.org/', blog => 'http://taint.org/' } --- Th

Re: [SAtalk] duplicate rule: FROM_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL

2002-07-03 Thread Matt Sergeant
Justin Mason wrote: > FROM_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL was already implemented as FROM_NAME_EQ_FROM_ADDR ;) > Does it make sense to keep the older one and delete FROM_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL? Are they scored the same? Be really odd if they weren't... Besides, this should be on sa-dev too ;-) Matt.

Re: [SAtalk] Re: spamassassin 2.31 rpm

2002-07-03 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 03:20:31AM -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote: > Can you add a Requires: for package perl-Time-HiRes? (This is available > in RH7.3 and Rawhide, but for earlier RH it's in Power Tools.). I just It should actually be a Requires for perl(Time::HiRes) since some people may have a di

[SAtalk] RE: Spam Assassin and Free Speech Issues

2002-07-03 Thread Michael Moncur
[redirected to SAtalk per Dan's suggestion] Mark Perkel writes: > Yes - but because a subject isn't generally discussed among most people > doesn't meen that it's isn't important as a subject to many people. And > I think that Spam Assassin should never become (inadvertantly) a > censorship tool.

Re: [SAtalk] I'm back!

2002-07-03 Thread Kevin Gagel
Justin, I've been trying to get some help setting up SA on a windows server. I was finally able to get it integrated and working. But it messed up our incoming mail. Some how an extra linefeed was feed into the email begining with the first line. The result was that all mail readers interpret th

RE: [SAtalk] Interview with "Spam King" Scelson

2002-07-03 Thread Steve Thomas
Clearly, getting a spammer's connection terminated isn't enough of a deterrent to keep them from spamming. Perhaps getting the spammers themselves terminated would be... ...anyone got a good sniper rifle? ;) --- This sf.net email is sponsore

Re: [SAtalk] RE: Spam Assassin and Free Speech Issues

2002-07-03 Thread Rich Wellner
"Michael Moncur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [redirected to SAtalk per Dan's suggestion] > > Mark Perkel writes: >> Yes - but because a subject isn't generally discussed among most people >> doesn't meen that it's isn't important as a subject to many people. And I >> think that Spam Assassin s

RE: [SAtalk] Interview with "Spam King" Scelson

2002-07-03 Thread Hallikainen HAROLD Friends
There are some interesting ideas for clogging spam mailing lists at http://www.turnstep.com/Spambot/. I added a short php script to do our part at http://www.dovesystems.com/BuildPage.php?page=contact . Maybe someday they'll advertise 100,000,000 email addresses, two or three of which are guarante

Re: [SAtalk] I'm back!

2002-07-03 Thread Justin Mason
Kevin Gagel said: > The -F0 seemed to be needed for my MTA, I also tried -F 0, I'm not sure which is > correct but both seem to cause the reordering of FROM: to the first line. > I can't think of anything else that could be helpful. I'm confident that the > problem lies with SA because it uses m

RE: [SAtalk] Porn? Am I so unimaginative?

2002-07-03 Thread Jason Qualkenbush
  There is a line in there "Must be 18 yrs. old" which probably triggered it. -Original Message-From: Marsha Hanchrow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 10:41 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [SAtalk] Porn? Am I so unimaginative?I never did manage

RE: [SAtalk] Porn? Am I so unimaginative?

2002-07-03 Thread Steve Thomas
This is what matched: Must be full-time student and at least 18 ^^^ ^^^ | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of | Marsha Hanchrow | Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 10:41 AM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subjec

[SAtalk] defang_mime

2002-07-03 Thread Pete O'Hara
Hi, I understand what defang_mime is doing at the surface level - - change the Content-type: header of suspected spam to ``text/plain''. And I have read rfc1521 which describes the different content types: text, multipart, application, ... What I am trying to find out is what are the consequ

Re: [SAtalk] user_prefs (whitelist_from)

2002-07-03 Thread Pete Hanson
At 07/03/2002 03:51, Brandon L. Griffith wrote: >whitelist_from "[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]" > >But still, it filters her emails out. Did I misread something somewhere >or might there be another issue at hand here? Quotes aren't needed (and probably aren't valid), and spaces are used t

Re: [SAtalk] defang_mime

2002-07-03 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 02:42:30PM -0400, Pete O'Hara wrote: > I understand what defang_mime is doing at the surface level - >- change the Content-type: header of suspected spam to > ``text/plain''. And I have read rfc1521 which describes the different > content types: text, multipart, appli

Re: [SAtalk] defang_mime

2002-07-03 Thread Justin R. Miller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Said Pete O'Hara on Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 02:42:30PM -0400: > I understand what defang_mime is doing at the surface level - - > change the Content-type: header of suspected spam to ``text/plain''. > And I have read rfc1521 which describes the differe

Re: [SAtalk] Sendmail and Spamassassin

2002-07-03 Thread Nix
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Helen Best said: > Spamassassin will now run the Makefile, the Make and the Make install but > fails with the Make test. > > Can anyone help me with the problems please Sure, if you say what the symptoms are. Providing the output from the `make test' is vastly more useful t

[SAtalk] Relevant Marketing Technologies - any good?

2002-07-03 Thread Jure Pecar
Hi list, I'm an admin for a medium sized free webmail (~150k users) and just got a mail like this: ** Hello Administrators for [mywebmail.tld] [lots of spaces], Please check to verify that messages being sent to our Opt-in customers that are using your services are not being blocked by any of

[SAtalk] using the envelope-to address within spamd

2002-07-03 Thread Josh Drew
I am modifying spamd so that preferences are loaded depending upon the email address of the message recipient. That way, I can store user_prefs for non-local users. For single-recipient messages, I have no problem finding the to address: Received: from localhost (jdrew@localhost) by origin.com

Re: [SAtalk] Relevant Marketing Technologies - any good?

2002-07-03 Thread Kip Turk
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Jure Pecar wrote: > Hi list, > > I'm an admin for a medium sized free webmail (~150k users) and just got > a mail like this: > Does anybody know something about them? I'm not blocking them directly, > i'm only using ordb.org and relays.osirusoft.com lookups. > > All those s

[SAtalk] Program failure (-13)

2002-07-03 Thread evil 853
I just installed SpamAssassin last night (personal use). So far it caught about 20 emails, but a couple slipped by due to an error which I cannot track down. Subject: *SPAM* Deca, D-BOL, Winni-V ! Get Big, Ripped & Strong! Folder: IN.caughtspam

[SAtalk] Re: Relevant Marketing Technologies - any good?

2002-07-03 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 10:02:54PM +0200, Jure Pecar wrote: | Please check to verify that messages being sent to our Opt-in customers | that are using your services are not being blocked by any of Why in the world would you (the message originator) have a reason to think that everyone is blockin

Re: [SAtalk] Program failure (-13)

2002-07-03 Thread Justin R. Miller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Said evil 853 on Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 02:11:06PM -0700: > I just installed SpamAssassin last night (personal use). So far it > caught about 20 emails, but a couple slipped by due to an error which > I cannot track down. Subject: *SPAM* Deca

[SAtalk] Whitelisting by Recipient

2002-07-03 Thread Crist J. Clark
I am trying to set up SpamAssassin to filter incoming mail at a medium-sized site (less than 200 users). We will not be moving from our current final MTA/POP/IMAP product, so SpamAssassin will be running on a relay between the outside and the final MTA. I have set up Sendmail as the relay, and usi

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Relevant Marketing Technologies - any good?

2002-07-03 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > | email marketing and communication solutions > > A marketing company has concerns about blacklists. Any reasons why > they should be concerned? If they're legit, why should they be > concerned? We've already had a discussion about how rabid

[SAtalk] Re: Program failure (-13)

2002-07-03 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 05:44:12PM -0400, Justin R. Miller wrote: | Said evil 853 on Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 02:11:06PM -0700: | | > I just installed SpamAssassin last night (personal use). So far it | > 3783procmail: Program failure (-13) of | I could be way off base here, but I seem to recall r

[SAtalk] configuration questions

2002-07-03 Thread Bill Omer
I'm using spamass-milter on my mail gateway, and I would like to figure out a way to not make SA modify the body, only change the subject, when mail has been marked as spam. I would also like to figure out a way to make all high-scoring spam (15+) get deleted automatically. Is this possible usi

[SAtalk] Spamassassin on OS X Server

2002-07-03 Thread Hans Vallden
Hello all! I wonder if anyone has made any attempts to install Spamassassin to Mac OS X/Mac OS X Server? I would be VERY interested in doing so. Heck, I might even pay some money for specific instructions. -- -- Hans Vallden [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: [SAtalk] (1) User_prefs ignored? (2) Permission problem? (fwd)

2002-07-03 Thread Bob Sully
Olivier: I had been using the standard call in .procmailrc: :0fw | spamassassin -P :0: * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes /home/rcs/mail/spam With this, I only get the error message for root: Jul 3 17:27:38 firefox spamd[28173]: read_scoreonly_config: cannot open "/root/.spamassassin/user_prefs": Perm

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin on OS X Server

2002-07-03 Thread rODbegbie
Hans Vallden wrote: > I wonder if anyone has made any attempts to install Spamassassin to > Mac OS X/Mac OS X Server? I would be VERY interested in doing so. > Heck, I might even pay some money for specific instructions. http://rhumba.pair.com/ben/docs/sa.html Shall I presume the check is in the

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin on OS X Server

2002-07-03 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Thu, 4 Jul 2002 the voices made Hans Vallden write: > I wonder if anyone has made any attempts to install Spamassassin to Mac OS > X/Mac OS X Server? I would be VERY interested in doing so. Heck, I might > even pay some money for specific instructions. I'd be surprised if this wasn't enough

Re: [SAtalk] Re: spamassassin 2.31 rpm

2002-07-03 Thread Kenneth Porter
On Wed, 2002-07-03 at 07:18, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 03:20:31AM -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote: > > Can you add a Requires: for package perl-Time-HiRes? (This is available > > in RH7.3 and Rawhide, but for earlier RH it's in Power Tools.). I just > > It should actually be a

Re: [SAtalk] RE: Spam Assassin and Free Speech Issues

2002-07-03 Thread Kenneth Porter
On Wed, 2002-07-03 at 09:31, Rich Wellner wrote: > Censorship is not the exclusive domain of the government. A school, for > example, could easily use SA as a censorship tool. If it's a private school, you're paying for them to filter for you. Not censorship. If it's a government school, then i

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin on OS X Server

2002-07-03 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Thu, 4 Jul 2002 the voices made Tony L. Svanstrom write: > On Thu, 4 Jul 2002 the voices made Hans Vallden write: > > > I wonder if anyone has made any attempts to install Spamassassin to Mac OS > > X/Mac OS X Server? I would be VERY interested in doing so. Heck, I might > > even pay some mon

[SAtalk] Re: (1) User_prefs ignored? (2) Permission problem? (fwd)

2002-07-03 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 05:44:11PM -0700, Bob Sully wrote: | I had been using the standard call in .procmailrc: | | :0fw | | spamassassin -P | | :0: | * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes | /home/rcs/mail/spam | | With this, I only get the error message for root: | | Jul 3 17:27:38 firefox spamd[28173]: r

[SAtalk] Blacklisting Your Own Domains

2002-07-03 Thread Richie Laager
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 We're running SA on a couple of boxes to spam filter mail. MIMEDefang is used as the filtering agent, which bounces messages above 7 points. As these machines are gateways for incoming mail only, would it be a good idea to blacklist our domains? I

[SAtalk] Re: configuration questions

2002-07-03 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 05:48:09PM -0500, Bill Omer wrote: | I'm using spamass-milter on my mail gateway, and I would like to figure | out a way to not make SA modify the body, only change the subject, when | mail has been marked as spam. report_header 1 (hmm, is there no switch to turn of

Re: [SAtalk] Re: (1) User_prefs ignored? (2) Permission problem?(fwd)

2002-07-03 Thread Bob Sully
On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 05:44:11PM -0700, Bob Sully wrote: > > | I had been using the standard call in .procmailrc: > | > | :0fw > | | spamassassin -P > | > | :0: > | * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes > | /home/rcs/mail/spam > | > | With this, I only ge

Re: [SAtalk] (1) User_prefs ignored? (2) Permission problem? (fwd)

2002-07-03 Thread Olivier Nicole
>Jul 3 17:27:44 firefox spamd[28177]: read_scoreonly_config: cannot open >"/home/rcs/.spamassassin/user_prefs": Permission denied Are you sure /home/rcs/.spamassassin/user_prefs exists? If not, maybe you're missing the -x (or is that -a) option to spamc that tells to create the user-pref. Oli

[SAtalk] Re: Re: (1) User_prefs ignored? (2) Permission problem? (fwd)

2002-07-03 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 07:31:31PM -0700, Bob Sully wrote: | Right, it's started via /etc/rc.d/rc.local: | | /usr/bin/spamd -u nobody Ahh, there's your problem (I think). (man spamd) -u username, --username=username Run as the named user. The alternative, default

[SAtalk] Re: Blacklisting Your Own Domains

2002-07-03 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 09:18:41PM -0500, Richie Laager wrote: | We're running SA on a couple of boxes to spam filter mail. | MIMEDefang is used as the filtering agent, which bounces | messages above 7 points. As these machines are gateways for | incoming mail only, would it be a good idea to

[SAtalk] how do you tell what's a reply to your own outgoing mail?

2002-07-03 Thread Derek at CD Baby
I run a consignment shop, so the emails I sent out to our vendors get false positive by my own SA when people hit "REPLY". Has anyone found a solution for this? Do your put your own custom headers in the outgoing mail, then use a filter to look for that header in the reply? Any tips appreciated

Re: [SAtalk] Blacklisting Your Own Domains

2002-07-03 Thread Vivek Khera
> "RL" == Richie Laager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: RL> incoming mail only, would it be a good idea to blacklist our RL> domains? I'm thinking that nobody should be sending messages RL> with a from address that is within our domains. I did some RL> checking, and only spammy-looking domains

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Blacklisting Your Own Domains

2002-07-03 Thread Richie Laager
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 03 July 2002 22:01 pm, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > On the surface it sounds like a good idea, but when you get > a bit deeper it isn't really practical. Maybe a > not-too-high scoring rule for those messages would be > acceptable, bu

[SAtalk] Re: how do you tell what's a reply to your own outgoing mail?

2002-07-03 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 08:05:24PM -0700, Derek at CD Baby wrote: | I run a consignment shop, so the emails I sent out to our vendors | get false positive by my own SA when people hit "REPLY". Why? Which rules are triggered? | Has anyone found a solution for this? First the cause of the taggi

Re: [SAtalk] Re: how do you tell what's a reply to your own outgoing mail?

2002-07-03 Thread Derek at CD Baby
Damn. Ok. Thanks for the help. I thought mail clients return all incoming headers. Oh well. I'll just tweak the rule scores then to downplay the ones getting matched. Thanks D-Man for saving me some time.:-) > | Do your put your own custom headers in the outgoing mail, then > | use a fil

[SAtalk] SA taking forever to scan messages

2002-07-03 Thread Kris Stumpner
After installing version 2.31, it now takes 15-30 seconds per message to run through spam assassin. Anyone else having or had a similar problem to this? Kris Stumpner --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Caffeinated soap. No kiddi