On Nov 23, 4:07 am, Steve Palincsar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> All that said, I would want to put a huge load on the back of a
> Rambouillet.
Why would you want to put a huge load the back of a Rambouillet?
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On Sun, 2008-11-23 at 04:14 -0800, Big Paulie wrote:
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> On Nov 23, 4:07 am, Steve Palincsar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > All that said, I would want to put a huge load on the back of a
> > Rambouillet.
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> Why would you want to put a huge load the back of a Rambouillet?
That wa
They get rounder after some miles.
I had one inflated to over 150 psi with dish soap on the bead, and the
flat spot still wouldn't pop out. I was amazed by this.
On Nov 22, 7:43 pm, tallsteelbikes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just converted a 1980's Trek to 650b. The Cdv's work ok, but one of
On Sat, 2008-11-22 at 21:26 -0800, Greenwayrider wrote:
> Question for fellow A.H.H riders. What is the maximum weight you have
> or would be comfortable with putting on your bike? Rivendell list the
> weight limit for the A.H.H at 220lbs (rider and gear) on trails. I
> weigh 190lbs fully dressed
Mine were not round when first mounted. After some time they settled
down. Probably took a little more than a month, though.
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
On Nov 22, 7:43�pm, tallsteelbikes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just converted a 1980's Trek to 650b. �The Cdv's work ok, but one of
> them has
The difference is pretty much as you'd expect. The Atlantis is really
stable, but I just never feel I'm going quite as fast
as on the Ram. When I go back to the Ram it feels like I have wings.
On Nov 23, 12:13 am, "Doug Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just curious: Since you have both, wh
I tour on my Ram, I'm 190lbs and I put an extra 25lbs on it and it
feels good up
to 45mph down hill and I can get out of the saddle to climb too. So
I'd expect
the AHH to be good with slightly more weight.
On Nov 23, 7:48 am, Steve Palincsar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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I'm also interested in what usuk2007 feels is the difference.
I've got both a Rambouillet and an Atlantis, both 64cm, the fit is
similar. I have 28mm tires on the Rambouillet and 37mm tires on the
Atlantis, I believe much of the difference I feel between the two
bikes is due to the tire size.
T
Obviously tyre size has a big effect. Sometimes I ride the Atlantis
with 26x1.75 Schwalbe Marathons
over dirt tracks and it obviously does better than the Ram with 32mm
tyres. It feels safer and if
a rock comes along the Atlantis deals with it better. When I put
26x1.25 on the Atlantis and ride on
We pretty regulalry post something like, "What is the difference between
___ and ___?" and 1/2 the answers are that there is no difference in
the bikes, it must be the tires. The other half sees night and day variation
between the models.
I think it just shows how subjective our percept
Well said! It also really depends on what style of riding you prefer.
As I like to go mostly light touring or do long distance weekend rides
on the road the Ram gets my vote. It's a plus that it can deal with
the dirt when I feel so inclined. The journey of the Crane Bros
through Central Asian sho
I think we are comparing tire sizes more than bikes.
The only real comparison is if you use the same wheel/tire combination on both
bikes inflated exactly the same.
I have three sets of wheels and four tires for my Romulus, 25mm, 28mm, 32mm and
35mm. Each tire size makes a world of difference
Where does Riv specify weight limits for their bikes? What happens if one
weighs 25lbs. or 50lbs more than the limit? Does the frame flex more or crack?
I'm 225lbs. and carry around 10lbs on the front. I feel like my bike could
carry way more weight without breaking a sweat.
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It is on their web site under bicycle models. There you will find a
chart named "Which bike for what?" Are you riding a AHH?
On Nov 23, 10:59 am, "Mitch F." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Where does Riv specify weight limits for their bikes? What happens if one
> weighs 25lbs. or 50lbs more than
That's why I compared the ride of the Ram with 32mm tyres to that of
the Atlantis with 26x1.25 tyres.
That's the closest to comparing "apples to apples" as your going to
get. When you do that the Ram is far
better than the Atlantis on the road and only marginally worse that
the Atlantis on dirt. S
on 11/23/08 6:35 AM, Bruce at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> We pretty regulalry post something like, "What is the difference between
> ___ and ___?" and 1/2 the answers are that there is no difference in
> the bikes, it must be the tires. The other half sees night and day variation
> between
I bought a pair for my 3speed (650a) and they are round and seated.
Clean living I guess.
On Nov 23, 6:23 am, EricP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mine were not round when first mounted. After some time they settled
> down. Probably took a little more than a month, though.
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Pa
Well put Bruce. I do agree they are all good bikes! I would guess
some riders are more sensative to differences than others.
On rougher surfaces, the tires size can make a big difference in how
much vibration the rider feels, less noticeable on smooth surfaces.
After riding the infamous Texas "
Thanks, I found it.
I am not riding an AHH. I ride a Romulus. The Romulus is a lot like the
Ramboullet, only much better:)
I wish I had the AHH but can"t justify it right now. The AHH would allow me to
ride the 35s I have now but with fenders. With the Rom or the Ram, you don't
wanna go w
Jim,
I agree with your comments, the Riv bikes are different, which is why
I lament the loss
of the road/sport tourer end of the model spectrum. There's the
Legolas, but it's a bit
too lightweight and specialized and the AHH has just too long a wheel
base and is
just that bit heavy to be a real ro
How much difference can there be in weight and wheelbase between a Ramboullet
and an AHH?
Just curious.
--- On Sun, 11/23/08, usuk2007 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: usuk2007 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Comparing Bikes
> To: "RBW Owners Bunch"
> Date: Sunday, November 23, 20
Obviously, Rivendell bikes are evolving. That's a good thing. The Ram
is a great bike, but I think Grant sees the AHH as being able to do
anything the Ram can do. I really doubt the difference in either
bike's ability to be a "real" road bike is significant. It's all a
matter of perspective. Lots
At this point, I think the only way to satisfy one's desire to have a
Rambouillet again is to go custom and ask Grant to make you one;>)
Rene
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> From: usuk2007 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: RBW Owners Bunch
> Date: 11/23/2008 11
I headed out on my Ram today after making some changes to it earlier
in the week. The changes being trading out the 32 Pasela's for Ruffy
Tuffys, putting on cloth bar tape and stripping away the heavy seat
bags for a burrito wrap. Since getting the bike last year I had only
ever run Pasela's on it
the crack is in the lug, not the tube. Perhaps a casting void when the lug was
made? RBW should indeed be able to fix it pretty straightforwardly.
From: Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
As I waschecking I noticed that my chainstay was broken all the way through.
A
Mike,
I was also one critical of the Betty Foy headbadgeactually it was
more like mother-in-law bashing
I have also similarly lightened my Rambouillet after getting an
Atlantis. Today's ride with the local bike club ended with me
getting dropped. I hope Grant's pox continues to take i
I was hoping that the amount of money I've spent at Rivendell would
counteract his pox. I guess I was wrong. I'll be curious to see how
they warranty the frame. Repair vs replacement and how long it'll
take.
On Nov 23, 3:01 pm, Angus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mike,
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> I was also one critica
Mike,
If Rivendell handles the repair for you, then you win all around from this
experience:
1) You get to pick a new color.
2) You learned a lot in the riding home process (about friction-shifting and
DIY makeshift frame repair).
3) You got to teach us on this list something (see #2).
4) You w
Let me put my two sense in here. I have a Ram, but, after much
thought passed up the AHH for the Ebisu from Jitensha, which is very
similar to the AHH, but with different brakes, braze-ons, paint, and
price. I'm betting the two ride quite a bit alike.
Obviously, either bike can be set up quite
That's the dropout that cracked (no lugs there), and correct, the tube
looks undamaged. To my eye (as someone who is only passingly familiar
with the work involved) it seems like a pretty straightforward dropout
replacement. Nice job on the temp repair job and good luck getting it
back on the road
That crack is a long time coming. Look at the oxidation/rust. Been
there a long time.
Glad you're ok, and they'll be able to fix that right up.
Yay for steel!
Gino
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Bill Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> That's the dropout that cracked (no lugs there),
On Sun, 2008-11-23 at 16:31 -0800, Gino Zahnd wrote:
> That crack is a long time coming. Look at the oxidation/rust. Been
> there a long time.
>
> Glad you're ok, and they'll be able to fix that right up.
>
> Yay for steel!
Good point. This whole story is a great illustration of what
"non
On Nov 23, 2008, at 2:21 PM, "" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> At this point, I think the only way to satisfy one's desire to have a
> Rambouillet again is to go custom and ask Grant to make you one;>)
>
> Rene
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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It might be better than that.
+1 well said
On Nov 23, 7:03 pm, MichaelH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Let me put my two sense in here. I have a Ram, but, after much
> thought passed up the AHH for the Ebisu from Jitensha, which is very
> similar to the AHH, but with different brakes, braze-ons, paint, and
> price. I'm bettin
If you love that steel bike, repair it. The memories and stories are worth
it alone. I'll always regret not knowing that I could safely repair my
first, long lost, 531db frame when the left fork finally cracked through
just below the crown. Nowadays there seem to be more options available, and
you
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Big Paulie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I will say this about the Rambouillet... I suspect that it has just a
> touch more depth to it than the AHH, and a more experienced cyclist
> might find deeper understanding in the Ram. [,,,] The added depth of the
> Ramb
James, all good points. I've already received an email back from Grant
and they'll get it fixed which is fine. The benefits of steel. I
imagine that once the frame is fixed they'll need to repaint the whole
frame. I sure hope so cause I'd love to get it repainted orange like
the original Rambouill
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 6:05 PM, JimD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> There were times when I was waiting for the custom that I kept
> thinking it would be similar enough to
> the Romulus that the major distinction would be aesthetic, cooler
> headbadge, nifty paint, and such.
> I was ok with that
I realized as I was pulling out of the driveway for a get together with friends
that I meant to say drop out, not lug. It's just a Fully lugged state of mind,
to paraphrase Billy Joel...
From: Bill Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
That's the dropout that cracke
Indeed, the lug has cracked right through. This is an easy brazing
fix with a new lug and some repainting. Any good frame shop should be
able to do it in short order, but I am sure Rivendell will stand by
the frame and fix it for you.
On Nov 23, 4:48 pm, Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> the c
Jim wrote:
I had one inflated to over 150 psi with dish soap on the bead, and the
flat spot still wouldn't pop out. I was amazed by this.
Some pump! Or shop air? Anything near 100 & that's my upper body workout
for the day.
Lends some credibility to the notion that "10% over max pressure
Hmmm...
Any difference in weight? Wheels? Tires?
Or is it more subtle?
dougP
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on 11/23/08 6:57 PM, Mike at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> James, all good points. I've already received an email back from Grant
> and they'll get it fixed which is fine. The benefits of steel. I
> imagine that once the frame is fixed they'll need to repaint the whole
> frame. I sure hope so cause I
#4 is the redeeming part... How nice it is to hear of someone going out of
their way to help you!
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 4:02 PM, James Warren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
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> Mike,
> If Rivendell handles the repair for you, then you win all around from this
> experience:
>
> 1) You get to pick a n
As you noted, the tires are a big difference. What about wheels?
You notice the weight difference loading the bikes. Are they the same as
far as racks'n'packs? My Atlantis is noticeably lighter without the Nitto
rear rack (2 lbs) and Hobo bag on the saddle (usually around 5 lbs).
I'll bet th
I've only ever had steel road bikes. A Bianchi Veloce from 95 which
developed a huge separation in the headtube lug. It took me a few
months to figure out why I couldn't ride the bike no hands. Yikes.
Bianchi replaced that frame with another and on that frame the FD
braze on broke right as I was c
Folks,
I'm sure I missed something. Who was Sam Hillborne and how did he get
picked for this gig?
Paul D.
Austin, TX
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Thanks for not being the only one! Confessing my ignorance, I have no idea
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Isn't "Sam Hillborne" in deference to Sheldon Brown?
I thought Sheldon used to say that whenever his dad was terribly upset
with him, he would state "what the Sam Hill"!
I imagine that Grant is using using the name "Sam Hillborne" in
Sheldon's memory.
Now, Betty Foy, I have no idea.
James Mano
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_Foy
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 10:18 PM, manougian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Isn't "Sam Hillborne" in deference to Sheldon Brown?
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> I thought Sheldon used to say that whenever his dad was terribly upset
> with him, he would state "what the Sam Hill"!
>
> I
This is interesting to me, the Sam Hillbourne that is. I want a lugged
pretty bike that would be stout enough to ride on asphalt and light
luggage. I am now 255 and wanted something less expensive than an
Atlantis. Also wondering about the tubing on the new Quickbeam and
when or if the economy ver
You knowas much as we try, as conscientious as we are, as much as
we speak, believe and communicate that what we do is sincere and based
on quite-a-lot-of experience and not cutting corners and so on...once
in a while a frame breaks. Statistically it is inevitable. It is a
drag to have it aire
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