Obviously tyre size has a big effect. Sometimes I ride the Atlantis with 26x1.75 Schwalbe Marathons over dirt tracks and it obviously does better than the Ram with 32mm tyres. It feels safer and if a rock comes along the Atlantis deals with it better. When I put 26x1.25 on the Atlantis and ride on the road that stability makes it feel slower than the Ram. Its a close run thing, but I suppose I just like the feeling of speed and freedom that I get form the Ram, and as it will handle the dirt reasonably well and take my fairly light touring load it's the bike I prefer for most of my riding.
On Nov 23, 9:14 am, Angus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm also interested in what usuk2007 feels is the difference. > > I've got both a Rambouillet and an Atlantis, both 64cm, the fit is > similar. I have 28mm tires on the Rambouillet and 37mm tires on the > Atlantis, I believe much of the difference I feel between the two > bikes is due to the tire size. > > The Atlantis, probably due to the tires, is less jarring over rough > road surfaces and seems to be a slightly more stable bike. It rides > VERY well fully loaded. > > The Rambouillet seems to have quicker, more nimble steering and > transmits more road vibration (probably the tires). It feels faster, > if I can't keep up with the local carbon bike crowd it's not due to > the bike. > > There is also a weight difference between the two bikes, I can feel > that when putting the bikes into the back of the car... > > Angus > > On Nov 22, 11:13 pm, "Doug Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Just curious: Since you have both, what are the differences between the Ram > > & the Atlantis? > > > I have an Atlantis that I purchased primarily for touring, so did not > > consider component weights at build time. It's a pretty standard Riv build; > > lots of MTB stuff (crank, hubs, brakes) on 700 wheels. > > > It's a great bike but admittedly a lot of work to keep up with the racy > > types (as racy as bunch of retired geezers can be, anyway). I'm curious to > > hear your comparison. > > > dougP > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of usuk2007 > > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 6:43 PM > > To: RBW Owners Bunch > > Subject: [RBW] Is the Ram the closest thing to perfect bike? I think so. > > > I'm a bit perplexed with the drift of Riv away from the "lighter" end > > of the frame spectrum. The current frames and new ones just on the > > horizon look exciting, but there's a big void where the Ram was once. > > I have an Atlantis and love it, but the Ram is by far my favourite > > bike; fast enough to feel as if I'm a strong cyclist, versatile enough > > to go touring with lightweight gear, and even do some off road with > > 32mm tyres. I think the Ram hits the sweet spot between speed, > > handling and strength. I haven't ridden an AHH, but somehow if just > > looks less fun than the Ram, so I'm waiting for Rivendell to bring > > back the road/sport touring bike.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---