The difference is pretty much as you'd expect. The Atlantis is really
stable, but I just never feel I'm going quite as fast
as on the Ram. When I go back to the Ram it feels like I have wings.

On Nov 23, 12:13 am, "Doug Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just curious:  Since you have both, what are the differences between the Ram
> & the Atlantis?
>
> I have an Atlantis that I purchased primarily for touring, so did not
> consider component weights at build time.  It's a pretty standard Riv build;
> lots of MTB stuff (crank, hubs, brakes) on 700 wheels.
>
> It's a great bike but admittedly a lot of work to keep up with the racy
> types (as racy as bunch of retired geezers can be, anyway).  I'm curious to
> hear your comparison.
>
> dougP
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of usuk2007
> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 6:43 PM
> To: RBW Owners Bunch
> Subject: [RBW] Is the Ram the closest thing to perfect bike? I think so.
>
> I'm a bit perplexed with the drift of Riv away from the "lighter" end
> of the frame spectrum. The current frames and new ones just on the
> horizon look exciting, but there's a big void where the Ram was once.
> I have an Atlantis and love it, but the Ram is by far my favourite
> bike; fast enough to feel as if I'm a strong cyclist, versatile enough
> to go touring with lightweight gear, and even do some off road with
> 32mm tyres. I think the Ram hits the sweet spot between speed,
> handling and strength. I haven't ridden an AHH, but somehow if just
> looks less fun than the Ram, so I'm waiting for Rivendell to bring
> back the road/sport touring bike.
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