I think we are comparing tire sizes more than bikes. The only real comparison is if you use the same wheel/tire combination on both bikes inflated exactly the same.
I have three sets of wheels and four tires for my Romulus, 25mm, 28mm, 32mm and 35mm. Each tire size makes a world of difference. I think a better comparison might be made with, say, 28mm fully inflated. A fatter, softer tire might tend to hide differences in the feel between the models. --- On Sun, 11/23/08, usuk2007 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: usuk2007 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [RBW] Re: Is the Ram the closest thing to perfect bike? I think so. > To: "RBW Owners Bunch" <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> > Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 9:29 AM > Obviously tyre size has a big effect. Sometimes I ride the > Atlantis > with 26x1.75 Schwalbe Marathons > over dirt tracks and it obviously does better than the Ram > with 32mm > tyres. It feels safer and if > a rock comes along the Atlantis deals with it better. When > I put > 26x1.25 on the Atlantis and ride on the > road that stability makes it feel slower than the Ram. Its > a close run > thing, but I suppose I just like the feeling > of speed and freedom that I get form the Ram, and as it > will handle > the dirt reasonably well and take > my fairly light touring load it's the bike I prefer for > most of my > riding. > > On Nov 23, 9:14 am, Angus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I'm also interested in what usuk2007 feels is the > difference. > > > > I've got both a Rambouillet and an Atlantis, both > 64cm, the fit is > > similar. I have 28mm tires on the Rambouillet and > 37mm tires on the > > Atlantis, I believe much of the difference I feel > between the two > > bikes is due to the tire size. > > > > The Atlantis, probably due to the tires, is less > jarring over rough > > road surfaces and seems to be a slightly more stable > bike. It rides > > VERY well fully loaded. > > > > The Rambouillet seems to have quicker, more nimble > steering and > > transmits more road vibration (probably the tires). > It feels faster, > > if I can't keep up with the local carbon bike > crowd it's not due to > > the bike. > > > > There is also a weight difference between the two > bikes, I can feel > > that when putting the bikes into the back of the > car... > > > > Angus > > > > On Nov 22, 11:13 pm, "Doug Peterson" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Just curious: Since you have both, what are the > differences between the Ram > > > & the Atlantis? > > > > > I have an Atlantis that I purchased primarily for > touring, so did not > > > consider component weights at build time. > It's a pretty standard Riv build; > > > lots of MTB stuff (crank, hubs, brakes) on 700 > wheels. > > > > > It's a great bike but admittedly a lot of > work to keep up with the racy > > > types (as racy as bunch of retired geezers can > be, anyway). I'm curious to > > > hear your comparison. > > > > > dougP > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of usuk2007 > > > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 6:43 PM > > > To: RBW Owners Bunch > > > Subject: [RBW] Is the Ram the closest thing to > perfect bike? I think so. > > > > > I'm a bit perplexed with the drift of Riv > away from the "lighter" end > > > of the frame spectrum. The current frames and new > ones just on the > > > horizon look exciting, but there's a big void > where the Ram was once. > > > I have an Atlantis and love it, but the Ram is by > far my favourite > > > bike; fast enough to feel as if I'm a strong > cyclist, versatile enough > > > to go touring with lightweight gear, and even do > some off road with > > > 32mm tyres. I think the Ram hits the sweet spot > between speed, > > > handling and strength. I haven't ridden an > AHH, but somehow if just > > > looks less fun than the Ram, so I'm waiting > for Rivendell to bring > > > back the road/sport touring bike.- Hide quoted > text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
