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iPhone battery capacities compared: all iPhones battery life in mAh and Wh
Here we list and explain the battery capacities of every iPhone from 2007’s
original iPhone to the very latest iPhone 14 series.
Measuring iPhone battery life in straight
apps or services were affecting battery
life. I would also change it to “Last 10 Days”, and do the same. The info
down at the bottom is even more enlightening when looking at it over the long
term as opposed to the 24 hour period. The XR should have better battery life
than my XS, so this
k as I found it quite helpful
>>>>> when we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I
>>>>> hadn’t used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access
>>>>> my location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or som
Yeah I only get the 2 options power off and sos emergency call.
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Hi,
Yes, that’s the same screen I get on my XS and my wife’s X
g the side button in until the phone started again.
>>>>>> Turning it off the regular way would probably work just as well but I
>>>>>> usually get better results if I do a reboot that way as well from time
>>>>>> to time.
>>>>>&
s ago. But admit I hadn’t
>>>> used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access my
>>>> location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like that.
>>>> I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS and blueto
te helpful when
>>>> we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I hadn’t
>>>> used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access my
>>>> location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like that.
>>>&g
gt;> time.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/05/2020, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg >>>>> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>> Aha! That might help me too.
>>>>
by holding the side button in until the phone started again.
>>>>> Turning it off the regular way would probably work just as well but I
>>>>> usually get better results if I do a reboot that way as well from time to
>>>>> time.
>>>>>
&
, at 23:46, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>> Aha! That might help me too.
>>>>> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
>>>>> Thanks Petrus for that.
>>>>> /A
>>>>>
;>> I have to check apps to see what apps has access to what?
>>>>> Thanks Petrus for that.
>>>>> /A
>>>>>
>>>>>> 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >>>>> <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>>:
>>
>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps
>>>>> ask for.
>>>>> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful
>>>>> whe
paying attention too what access Apps
>>>>> ask for.
>>>>> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful
>>>>> when we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But admit I
>>>>> hadn’t used it for a while
t; 4 maj 2020 kl. 23:22 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >>>> <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps
>>>>> ask for.
>>>>> I
t; Hi all,
>>>> I just learned the importance of paying attention too what access Apps ask
>>>> for.
>>>> I recommended Lazarillo to Paul last week as I found it quite helpful when
>>>> we moved into this new neighbourhood a few years ago. But adm
t I hadn’t
>>>> used it for a while and when I opened it again it asked to access my
>>>> location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like that.
>>>> I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS and bluetooth
>>>>
;>> location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like that.
>>> I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS and bluetooth
>>> but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my battery life
>>> on my phone in t
again it asked to access my
>>> location via bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like that.
>>> I couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS and bluetooth
>>> but I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my battery life
>>
like that. I
>> couldn’t quite make the connection in my head between GPS and bluetooth but
>> I clicked on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my battery life on my
>> phone in the preceding days but isn’t make the connection. I was sitting
>> there on Sunda
couldn’t
> quite make the connection in my head between GPS and bluetooth but I clicked
> on OK anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my battery life on my phone in
> the preceding days but isn’t make the connection. I was sitting there on
> Sunday trying to work out why my
access my location via
bluetooth too. make it more accurate, or something like that. I couldn’t quite
make the connection in my head between GPS and bluetooth but I clicked on OK
anyway. Then I noticed a huge drop in my battery life on my phone in the
preceding days but isn’t make the
m On
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How to extend Apple Watch battery life while traveling
By Michael Potuck
Apple Watch has evolved with new features and hardware changes since the
original launched in 2015 but one aspect that has remained nearly the same
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>>
>>> Wednesday, March 20, 2019, 05:39 am PT (08:39 am ET)
>>> Adding to a full week of Apple releases, the company has refreshed the
>>> AirPods with a new wireless sync chip that allows for "Hey Siri," and
>>> longer battery
s the one exception to this trend.
>
> iPhone battery life getting worse – a trend likely to continue, says report
> 9to5Mac / Ben Lovejoy
>
>
> Tests carried out by the Washington Post, CNET, Consumer Reports and Tom’s
> Guide suggest that iPhone battery-life is mostly getting
Interesting. The XR is the one exception to this trend.
iPhone battery life getting worse – a trend likely to continue, says report
9to5Mac / Ben Lovejoy
Tests carried out by the Washington Post, CNET, Consumer Reports and Tom’s
Guide suggest that iPhone battery-life is mostly getting worse
I don’t think iPads have this since they have bigger batteries.
> On Sep 22, 2018, at 12:00 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> For sometime now, I have used an app called Battery Life to check in on the
> health of the battery of my phone. Now with iOS 12, it is no longer abl
Hi all,
For sometime now, I have used an app called Battery Life to check in on the
health of the battery of my phone. Now with iOS 12, it is no longer able to
tell me how much battery I have in terms of its original capacity. It used to
say 90% of original capacity. With iOS 12, if you go into
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Subject: Re: Here is an Informative Article on How To Extend Battery Life on
iOS and Android Devices
Hey Simon,
I find Sonos to be a HUGE bat
hours.
>
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Subject: Here is an Informative Article on How To Extend Battery Life on iOS
and Android Devices
Hello All,
The following article, the link t
Hello All,
The following article, the link to which is located at the end of the text,
is an Informative piece on how to extend battery life on iOS and Android
devices.
Enjoy,
Mark
How I added four hours of battery life to my smartphone every day for free
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I heard that battery life was substantially improved under IOS9. Today I used
Blind Square, all features, under ios9 for an hour and was surprised to see the
battery usage was only 12%. Normally, that hour would have drained off 20 - 30%
under IOS8.
Maybe I won’t be needing the Mophie juice
I've heard of this happening even when using boot camp. This is one
reason among others why I left the windows world and do everything
using the mac O.S.
Original message:
Hi everyone, since migrating from a Macbook Air to a retina Macbook
Pro, battery life when using Fusion has been
Thanks Grant, I'm back up to about 7 to 8 hours of battery life now after
killing a badly behaved Windows process. But I may well still go with Pro.
Jonathan Mosen
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> On 21/09/2015, at 11:12 AM, Gran
Depending on which Macbook Pro you’ve bought and which Macbook Air it’s
replacing, the designed battery life may be less right off the bat. According
to VMWare’s documentation, VMWare Fusion Pro 8 does indeed allow power users to
specify whether integrated or discrete graphics are used. I’m
Hi everyone, since migrating from a Macbook Air to a retina Macbook Pro,
battery life when using Fusion has been very disappointing. Obviously I'd
expect to take a bit of a hit, since I'm running two operating systems at once,
but in some cases I am only getting about three hours.
new batteries are in and the
cover tightened up (do not tighten very hard, finger tight is fine), the power
button is on the right side of the Trackpad. Hold it in for about 2 seconds
then release. Give it a few seconds then everything should be good to go.
Regarding battery life, it all
Hi all,
I’ve had this imac for a bit over a month and just today I see the trackpad not
working properly. I’m guessing it’s the internal battery which drives the
bluetooth. First, not sure exactly how to access the batteries and secondly,
what sort of life should I expect from these batteries
d Motion is On.
>>>>> • WiFi and LTE/3G services are On.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regular use yesterday included a number of calls including a 25 minute
>>>>> call from my son. All calls are within a building with 8 inch think
>>>>>
included a number of calls including a 25 minute
>>>> call from my son. All calls are within a building with 8 inch think
>>>> cinder block walls, often multiple walls for the signal to make its way
>>>> through. Lots of Text messages, Calendar checks, check
lock walls, often multiple walls for the signal to make its way through.
>>> Lots of Text messages, Calendar checks, check on tweets in Twitter, checked
>>> news in the CBC News app a few times and probably some things I can't
>>> recall.
>>>
>>>
>> from my son. All calls are within a building with 8 inch think cinder block
>> walls, often multiple walls for the signal to make its way through. Lots of
>> Text messages, Calendar checks, check on tweets in Twitter, checked news in
>> the CBC News app a few time
id that apps will start a little faster if the device
>> is set to Reduced Motion. Simply because it's doing these fancy graphics,
>> it may slightly affect battery life and since I can't see them, they may as
>> well be set to not happen.
>>
>> HTH.
>>
g up apps and other iOS
> activities. It is said that apps will start a little faster if the device is
> set to Reduced Motion. Simply because it's doing these fancy graphics, it
> may slightly affect battery life and since I can't see them, they may as well
> be set to not hap
hese fancy graphics, it may
slightly affect battery life and since I can't see them, they may as well be
set to not happen.
HTH.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On 2013-09-26, at 2:39 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> What is this motion thing? I haven't got my I phon
inch think cinder
>>> block walls, often multiple walls for the signal to make its way through.
>>> Lots of Text messages, Calendar checks, check on tweets in Twitter, checked
>>> news in the CBC News app a few times and probably some things I can't
>>&
a building with 8 inch think cinder block
>> walls, often multiple walls for the signal to make its way through. Lots of
>> Text messages, Calendar checks, check on tweets in Twitter, checked news in
>> the CBC News app a few times and probably some things I can't recal
walls, often multiple walls for the signal to make its way through. Lots of
> Text messages, Calendar checks, check on tweets in Twitter, checked news in
> the CBC News app a few times and probably some things I can't recall.
>
> So, by no means super heavy duty use, lots of backgr
multiple walls for the signal to make its way through. Lots of
> Text messages, Calendar checks, check on tweets in Twitter, checked news in
> the CBC News app a few times and probably some things I can't recall.
>
> So, by no means super heavy duty use, lots of background th
ine did, it started giving me
> less and less time. So, if you have had your iPhone for a while, it might be
> beneficial to get the battery tested. At least it was for me.
> Regards,
> Gigi Hi there
> I think maybe I was not clear on the last message I sent. I in did up getting
&g
was for me.
Regards,
Gigi Hi there
I think maybe I was not clear on the last message I sent. I in did up getting
my iPhone battery replaced. I was getting less battery life, and I suspected I
might have a problem.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:03 AM, Nicholas Parsons
> wrote:
My battery usage varies depending on what activities I do with the phone. GPS
and heavy internet use over 3G is a major battery drain. I was once getting
turn by turn directions in the car while streaming my iTunes Match music over
3G. I drained my spare battery pack and drained the iPHone's bat
logy and with everyone's phones
> running all kinds of different apps we are all going to have a different
> experience in battery life. I am curious though to those of you have been
> fortunate enough to get 48 hours out of a single charge. When you do this do
> you run any apps
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 25, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Brian Fischler wrote:
>
> Hey all, Obviously we are talking about technology and with everyone's phones
> running all kinds of different apps we are all going to have a different
> experience in battery life. I am curious th
Perhaps you should all get the Mycharge Peak (the old model) from Amazon.com as
this charger talks. Once for you to get the device charging and the other time
when you pull out the USB cable and then it says device disconnected, powering
off. I am waiting for my I phone 5S before I experience
Hey all, Obviously we are talking about technology and with everyone's phones
running all kinds of different apps we are all going to have a different
experience in battery life. I am curious though to those of you have been
fortunate enough to get 48 hours out of a single charge. When y
s with all respect to your experience,
>> most people neger get that kind of battery life even if not using there
>> phone much at all.
>>
>> Ky battery life has gotten less and less from iOS 5 and took a huge
>> reduction with 7. I religiously turn off wifi when
spect to your experience,
> most people neger get that kind of battery life even if not using there phone
> much at all.
>
> Ky battery life has gotten less and less from iOS 5 and took a huge reduction
> with 7. I religiously turn off wifi when out, keep apps shutdown between use,
o see if that helps anything.
>> On Sep 24, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm not sure why many are having battery life issues with iOS 7. I really
>>> haven't noticed a significant difference from iOS
Obviously there are many variables as with all respect to your experience, most
people neger get that kind of battery life even if not using there phone much
at all.
Ky battery life has gotten less and less from iOS 5 and took a huge reduction
with 7. I religiously turn off wifi when out
hat helps anything.
> On Sep 24, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm not sure why many are having battery life issues with iOS 7. I really
>> haven't noticed a significant difference from iOS 6 to 7. I'm not on my
>> i
ped a lot. My battery still drops faster than it used to, but not nearly
> as much. I'll let it go to 0% soon and re-charge it as others have suggested
> to see if that helps anything.
> On Sep 24, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'
lot. My battery still drops faster than it used to, but not nearly as much.
I'll let it go to 0% soon and re-charge it as others have suggested to see if
that helps anything.
On Sep 24, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm not sure why many are having battery
Hi,
Yup,
This stuff is usually hard to pin down. It could be 1 app, multiple apps, the
OS, or hardware. It can even just be false perception in some cases. I did
indeed notice a lessoning of battery life early on with IOS 7 but, it seems to
have normalized to something comprable to what I
Hi,
I'm not sure why many are having battery life issues with iOS 7. I really
haven't noticed a significant difference from iOS 6 to 7. I'm not on my iPhone
all day but fairly often in my opinion, have Mail Push and Fetch set to Manual,
don't always close every app
ned off a ton of things.
> On Sep 24, 2013, at 1:03 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>
>> lol,
>>
>> Hi. I kid you not, I see this with every, single, major update to IOS. a
>> bunch of people start complaining on how terrible their battery life is.
>> Now, before
e data, & not scream "the sky is
>>>> falling! The sky is falling!" If you keep this up, you'll give blind
>>>> folks a good reputation.
>>>>
>>>> Seriously, some good points,
>>>>
>>>> CJ
>>>&g
t;
>>> CJ
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 23, 2013, at 10:03 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>
>>>> lol,
>>>>
>>>> Hi. I kid you not, I see this with every, single, major update to IOS. a
>>>> bunch of people start co
There are some things you can do to increase battery life. Unless you are using
these services, I would disable them. Wifi, bluetooth, cell data and location
services. I keep all of these off unless I am using an application that
requires them. Also, if you use email, disable the automatic
;> Seriously, some good points,
>>
>> CJ
>>
>>
>> On Sep 23, 2013, at 10:03 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>
>>> lol,
>>>
>>> Hi. I kid you not, I see this with every, single, major update to IOS. a
>>> bunch of people s
I cannot speak for anyone else, of course, but I did try a restore, and ran the
battery completely down afterwards before a recharge.
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I must agree with your assessment of Ricardo's attitude. However, it must be
noted that I've never had heat battery life with the iPhone 4 first running
ios4, then 5 then 6 and now 7. It's not terrible but it's not great either.
On 2013-09-24, at 3:36 PM, CJ Daniel wrote:
Sep 23, 2013, at 10:03 PM, Ricardo Walker
>> wrote:
>>
>>> lol,
>>>
>>> Hi. I kid you not, I see this with every, single, major update to IOS.
>>> a bunch of people start complaining on how terrible their battery life
>>> is. Now, before
good
> reputation.
>
> Seriously, some good points,
>
> CJ
>
>
> On Sep 23, 2013, at 10:03 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>
>> lol,
>>
>> Hi. I kid you not, I see this with every, single, major update to IOS. a
>> bunch of people start com
l,
>
> Hi. I kid you not, I see this with every, single, major update to IOS. a
> bunch of people start complaining on how terrible their battery life is.
> Now, before anyone gets upset, I’m not saying some cases aren’t genuine.
> But, the overwhelming majority are not.
>
&
seems to be training the heck out of my battery, and yes, I have
> turned off a ton of things.
> On Sep 24, 2013, at 1:03 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>
>> lol,
>>
>> Hi. I kid you not, I see this with every, single, major update to IOS. a
>> bunch of people st
Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>
>>> lol,
>>>
>>> Hi. I kid you not, I see this with every, single, major update to IOS. a
>>> bunch of people start complaining on how terrible their battery life is.
>>> Now, before anyone gets upset, I’m not saying som
have
> turned off a ton of things.
> On Sep 24, 2013, at 1:03 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>
>> lol,
>>
>> Hi. I kid you not, I see this with every, single, major update to IOS. a
>> bunch of people start complaining on how terrible their battery life is.
&
ow terrible their battery life is.
> Now, before anyone gets upset, I’m not saying some cases aren’t genuine.
> But, the overwhelming majority are not.
>
> Let us step back and think what happens when we get a major update. For the
> majority of us, usage goes up. At least in
lol,
Hi. I kid you not, I see this with every, single, major update to IOS. a
bunch of people start complaining on how terrible their battery life is. Now,
before anyone gets upset, I’m not saying some cases aren’t genuine. But, the
overwhelming majority are not.
Let us step back and
5S. I am sure there
will eventually be a fix, but Voiceover fixes always seem to roll out very
slowly. I have turned my screen brightness down, always use my screen curtain
but have heard conflicting reports on whether this affects battery life. I have
turned off location services for those apps
time I got one, and it was gobbling up battery
>>> power for breakfast. I don't have that problem so much anymore.
>>> Regards,
>>> Gigi Hi guys
>>> I have a for S iPhone. I have done two things which is made a huge
>>> difference to my batter
wrote:
>>
>> my email was coming in every time I got one, and it was gobbling up battery
>> power for breakfast. I don't have that problem so much anymore.
>> Regards,
>> Gigi Hi guys
>> I have a for S iPhone. I have done two things which is made a huge
&g
PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>
> my email was coming in every time I got one, and it was gobbling up battery
> power for breakfast. I don't have that problem so much anymore.
> Regards,
> Gigi Hi guys
> I have a for S iPhone. I have done two things which is made a huge difference
my email was coming in every time I got one, and it was gobbling up battery
power for breakfast. I don't have that problem so much anymore.
Regards,
Gigi Hi guys
I have a for S iPhone. I have done two things which is made a huge difference
to my battery life on my iPhone. First, I turne
I'm waiting for my 5S as I believe when there is a major update, Battery life
on the 5 and lower drains as my theory is if that didn't happen Apple would not
get people to buy the new phones on Offer. As I have sold my current phone,
and once I get my new one, I've decided no
Wow speaking of battery life since I had a battery issue not long ago that
puzzled me.
Surprisingly after doing the update my phone lasted nearly 50 hours before
dying and needing a charge. I am curious to find out if that was just a ha,
good luck day after the upgrade since I'm letting
, 2013 3:07 PM
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Subject: Re: Battery Life on IOS 7
Hey Ed, Thanks, that will be another option as I did see a bunch in there
that I barely use. For now I am keeping it completely disabled as I imagine
this is an issue that Apple will address in 7.0.1 I just spoke to
Hey Ed, Thanks, that will be another option as I did see a bunch in there that
I barely use. For now I am keeping it completely disabled as I imagine this is
an issue that Apple will address in 7.0.1 I just spoke to a sighted friend on
an iPhone 5 and he said his battery life is awful, so at
t;
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> For the most part I really am loving IOS 7. The one thing that is a concern
>>> is the battery life is horrible. I typically made it through almost the
>>> entire day with not really needing to charge my phone. Yesterday, I bare
ay be refreshing more than you
> want.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ed
> On 21 Sep 2013, at 19:25, Brian Fischler wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> For the most part I really am loving IOS 7. The one thing that is a concern
>> is the battery life is horrible. I t
refresh appropriately. However,
it sounds as though some of them may be refreshing more than you want.
Cheers,
Ed
On 21 Sep 2013, at 19:25, Brian Fischler wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> For the most part I really am loving IOS 7. The one thing that is a concern
> is the battery life is
Hey all,
For the most part I really am loving IOS 7. The one thing that is a concern is
the battery life is horrible. I typically made it through almost the entire day
with not really needing to charge my phone. Yesterday, I barely used it and I
had to charge it twice. I am using an iPhone 4S
I wish there was an option to kill all the graphics when VoiceOver was on so
you could save battery life. I also don't know exactly what effect VoiceOver
would have, but I doubt it's very much at all. The big thing is graphics so far
as I know.
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> what I'm talking about if they want to, maybe they're right.
> Regards,
> Gigi
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 12, 2013, at 4:36 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>
>> Thinking about the wdc two days ago it was ann
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