I am well-known for having a fabulous sense of humor -- when material is funny. On Sep 24, 2013, at 8:02 PM, CJ Daniel <cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Christine, > > Try a little humor! It might make all the difference. It really wasn't all > that big a deal. > > CJ > > > On Sep 24, 2013, at 4:03 PM, Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I think that Ricardo is spot on with respect to past updates, but not this >> time. In fact, several sighted friends and relatives have been making the >> same complaints -- I wonder if that means their sighted peers who do not >> seem to be having a battery issue will consider them paranoid, recklessly >> screaming drama queens. Ricardo's post was respectful and level-headed, and >> worth considering. However, to suggest that those of us who are reporting >> serious battery drain are predicting the imminent collapse of the earth >> and that we are at risk of giving blind people a bad reputation is absurd, >> offensive, and uncalled-for. >> Christine >> On Sep 24, 2013, at 6:36 PM, CJ Daniel <cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Riccardo, >>> >>> Way to stay level-headed, assess the data, & not scream "the sky is >>> falling! The sky is falling!" If you keep this up, you'll give blind >>> folks a good reputation. >>> >>> Seriously, some good points, >>> >>> CJ >>> >>> >>> On Sep 23, 2013, at 10:03 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> lol, >>>> >>>> Hi. I kid you not, I see this with every, single, major update to IOS. a >>>> bunch of people start complaining on how terrible their battery life is. >>>> Now, before anyone gets upset, I’m not saying some cases aren’t genuine. >>>> But, the overwhelming majority are not. >>>> >>>> Let us step back and think what happens when we get a major update. For >>>> the majority of us, usage goes up. At least in the short term. If there >>>> was a chart out there, I bet you would see a usage spike right after major >>>> updates. Everyone wants to check out all the new features, improvements, >>>> etc. So naturally, the battery is getting used a whole lot more. At >>>> least, more than you normally do. Give it 1 month. 95% of bad battery >>>> claims will mysteriously go away. If you want, do a google search for >>>> battery issues going back the last 5 years. There all about updates that >>>> kill battery life. But yet, you rarely ever find this in the middle of a >>>> refresh cycle for the OS. I know, some will say “That’s because Apple has >>>> fixed the battery trouble with minor maintenance updates.” This could be >>>> true. But, only once, in 5 years of using IOS do I remember Apple putting >>>> out an update that specifically mentioned fixing a battery issue. >>>> >>>> JMO. >>>> >>>> Ricardo Walker >>>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>> >>>> On Sep 23, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> So in another words just turn everything off. Kidding, but this is a >>>>> serious issue and I find it a little troubling that Apple didn't think a >>>>> battery issue for Voiceover users was serious enough to address before >>>>> the release. This issue has definitely stopped me from running out to buy >>>>> a 5S. I am sure there will eventually be a fix, but Voiceover fixes >>>>> always seem to roll out very slowly. I have turned my screen brightness >>>>> down, always use my screen curtain but have heard conflicting reports on >>>>> whether this affects battery life. I have turned off location services >>>>> for those apps that don't need it, monitored what is in the app switcher, >>>>> turned off apps refreshing in the background, and I am sure I am >>>>> forgetting a few other things I have turned off. I do like IOS 7 but the >>>>> battery issue and VO not working very well in lists for Downcast and my >>>>> RSS feeds is very annoying as in IOS 6 you could quickly delta items as >>>>> VO would drop you on the next item after swiping to delete something. >>>>> This does not work in IOS 7 if you swipe right it jumps two items, and VO >>>>> constantly loses focus in these apps. Oh well. >>>>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 7:14 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Can't recall if this was mentioned yet. If you set your iPhone to Push >>>>>> and/or Fetch Mail less often. Actually, I just have mine set to grab >>>>>> Mail when I go into the Mail app as I don't care for it giving me alerts >>>>>> constantly when in meetings and such. I tend to get 48 to 72 hours out >>>>>> of my iPhone 5 even on iOS 7. >>>>>> >>>>>> Later... >>>>>> >>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2013-09-22, at 1:45 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Turning screen curtain on does not save battery. This came straight >>>>>>> from Apple btw. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>>>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi again >>>>>>>> The other thing I did which I forgot to mention that saves battery >>>>>>>> power on my iPhone is to turn screen curtain on. That way my battery >>>>>>>> is not running my screen, and I only turn my screen on when I really >>>>>>>> need it. >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Gigi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> my email was coming in every time I got one, and it was gobbling up >>>>>>>>> battery power for breakfast. I don't have that problem so much >>>>>>>>> anymore. >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Gigi Hi guys >>>>>>>>> I have a for S iPhone. I have done two things which is made a huge >>>>>>>>> difference to my battery life on my iPhone. First, I turned off >>>>>>>>> Bluetooth and only turn it on when I need it. Secondly, I set my >>>>>>>>> email to download only manually. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm waiting for my 5S as I believe when there is a major update, >>>>>>>>>> Battery life on the 5 and lower drains as my theory is if that >>>>>>>>>> didn't happen Apple would not get people to buy the new phones on >>>>>>>>>> Offer. As I have sold my current phone, and once I get my new one, >>>>>>>>>> I've decided not to update for now so it'll all be new to me when >>>>>>>>>> the phone finally comes to me from the Apple store. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Kawal. >>>>>>>>>>> On 21 Sep 2013, at 20:28, May and Noah <mcdonald....@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Wow speaking of battery life since I had a battery issue not long >>>>>>>>>>> ago that puzzled me. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Surprisingly after doing the update my phone lasted nearly 50 hours >>>>>>>>>>> before dying and needing a charge. I am curious to find out if that >>>>>>>>>>> was just a ha, good luck day after the upgrade since I'm letting it >>>>>>>>>>> do a complete recharge now since I don't need to go anywhere today >>>>>>>>>>> it can sit and charge and I'll see if I'm lucky again. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> May and Prince Noah >>>>>>>>>>> www.canadianlynx.ca >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-09-21, at 2:52 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah Ed I think that might be the problem, as I do have a lot of >>>>>>>>>>>> apps. I just turned it off, so will see how that affects the >>>>>>>>>>>> battery. Thanks again >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Edward Green <ergreen1...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Brian, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> YOu may want to try and experiment with background refresh. YOu >>>>>>>>>>>>> can control whether individual apps refresh in the background or >>>>>>>>>>>>> not. I believe the idea of this feature is to save you time when >>>>>>>>>>>>> opening apps, and the phone will learn your routines for doing >>>>>>>>>>>>> this so that the apps refresh appropriately. However, it sounds >>>>>>>>>>>>> as though some of them may be refreshing more than you want. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21 Sep 2013, at 19:25, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the most part I really am loving IOS 7. The one thing that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a concern is the battery life is horrible. I typically made >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it through almost the entire day with not really needing to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> charge my phone. Yesterday, I barely used it and I had to charge >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it twice. I am using an iPhone 4S on IOS 7, and know some of you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have some fantastic info, and was hoping someone might be able >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to compile a list of checks to use to get the best battery life. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have turned that new motion option on as I read that saves >>>>>>>>>>>>>> some battery life. I have closed a lot of the apps in the app >>>>>>>>>>>>>> switcher especially all GPS apps. I saw someone mention turning >>>>>>>>>>>>>> off background refresh might save battery life. What am I losing >>>>>>>>>>>>>> by turning that off, as I thought that was one of the new >>>>>>>>>>>>>> features that iPhone was pushing, so by turning off I would like >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to know what I am disabling. I assume it means apps will only >>>>>>>>>>>>>> refresh when I open them, as I have noticed through out the day >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would hear Downcast refresh which I thought was odd, as I have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it set to refresh every 8 hours and usually manually refresh it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do have about 200 apps on my phone so if they are constantly >>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying to refresh I could see that killing my battery. I have my >>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen curtain turned on and screen brightness turned down to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 33%. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, if anyone got an iPhone 5S can you let us know howe the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> battery life is? 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