I think that Ricardo is spot on with respect to past updates, but not this 
time.  In fact, several sighted friends and relatives have been making the same 
complaints -- I wonder if that means their sighted peers who do not seem to be 
having a battery issue will consider them paranoid, recklessly screaming drama 
queens.  Ricardo's post was respectful and level-headed, and worth considering. 
 However, to suggest that those of us who are reporting serious battery drain  
are  predicting the imminent collapse of the earth and that we are at risk of 
giving blind people a bad reputation is absurd, offensive, and uncalled-for.  
Christine
On Sep 24, 2013, at 6:36 PM, CJ Daniel <cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Riccardo,
> 
> Way to stay level-headed, assess the data, & not scream "the sky is falling!  
> The sky is falling!"  If you keep this up, you'll give blind folks a good 
> reputation.  
> 
> Seriously, some good points,
> 
> CJ
> 
> 
> On Sep 23, 2013, at 10:03 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> lol,
>> 
>> Hi.  I kid you not, I see this with every, single, major update to IOS.  a 
>> bunch of people start complaining on how terrible their battery life is.  
>> Now, before anyone gets upset, I’m not saying some cases aren’t genuine.  
>> But, the overwhelming majority are not.
>> 
>> Let us step back and think what happens when we get a major update.  For the 
>> majority of us, usage goes up.  At least in the short term.  If there was a 
>> chart out there, I bet you would see a usage spike right after major 
>> updates.  Everyone wants to check out all the new features, improvements, 
>> etc.  So naturally, the battery is getting used a whole lot more.  At least, 
>> more than you normally do.  Give it 1 month.  95% of bad battery claims will 
>> mysteriously go away.  If you want, do a google search for battery issues 
>> going back the last 5 years.  There all about updates that kill battery 
>> life.  But yet, you rarely ever find this in the middle of a refresh cycle 
>> for the OS.  I know, some will say “That’s because Apple has fixed the 
>> battery  trouble with minor maintenance updates.”  This could be true.  But, 
>> only once, in 5 years of using IOS do I remember Apple putting out an update 
>> that specifically mentioned fixing a battery issue.
>> 
>> JMO.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>> 
>> On Sep 23, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> So in another words just turn everything off. Kidding, but this is a 
>>> serious issue and I find it a little troubling that Apple didn't think a 
>>> battery issue for Voiceover users was serious enough to address before the 
>>> release. This issue has definitely stopped me from running out to buy a 5S. 
>>> I am sure there will eventually be a fix, but Voiceover fixes always seem 
>>> to roll out very slowly. I have turned my screen brightness down, always 
>>> use my screen curtain but have heard conflicting reports on whether this 
>>> affects battery life. I have turned off location services for those apps 
>>> that don't need it, monitored what is in the app switcher, turned off apps 
>>> refreshing in the background, and I am sure I am forgetting a few other 
>>> things I have turned off. I do like IOS 7 but the battery issue and VO not 
>>> working very well in lists for Downcast and my RSS feeds is very annoying 
>>> as in IOS 6 you could quickly delta items as VO would drop you on the next 
>>> item after swiping to delete something. This does not work in IOS 7 if you 
>>> swipe right it jumps two items, and VO constantly loses focus in these 
>>> apps. Oh well. 
>>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 7:14 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Can't recall if this was mentioned yet.  If you set your iPhone to Push 
>>>> and/or Fetch Mail less often.  Actually, I just have mine set to grab Mail 
>>>> when I go into the Mail app as I don't care for it giving me alerts 
>>>> constantly when in meetings and such.  I tend to get 48 to 72 hours out of 
>>>> my iPhone 5 even on iOS 7.
>>>> 
>>>> Later...
>>>> 
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>> 
>>>> On 2013-09-22, at 1:45 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Turning screen curtain on does not save battery.  This came straight from 
>>>>> Apple btw.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi again
>>>>>> The other thing I did which I forgot to mention that saves battery power 
>>>>>> on my iPhone is to turn screen curtain on. That way my battery is not 
>>>>>> running my screen, and I only turn my screen on when I really need it.
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Gigi
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> my email was coming in every time I got one, and it was gobbling up 
>>>>>>> battery power for breakfast. I don't have that problem so much anymore.
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Gigi Hi guys
>>>>>>> I have a for S iPhone. I have done two things which is made a huge 
>>>>>>> difference to my battery life on my iPhone. First, I turned off 
>>>>>>> Bluetooth and only turn it on when I need it. Secondly, I set my email 
>>>>>>> to download only manually.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm waiting for my 5S as I believe when there is a major update, 
>>>>>>>> Battery life on the 5 and lower drains as my theory is if that didn't 
>>>>>>>> happen Apple would not get people to buy the new phones on Offer.  As 
>>>>>>>> I have sold my current phone, and once I get my new one, I've decided 
>>>>>>>> not to update for now so it'll all be new to me when the phone finally 
>>>>>>>> comes to me from the Apple store.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Kawal. 
>>>>>>>>> On 21 Sep 2013, at 20:28, May and Noah <mcdonald....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Wow speaking of battery life since I had a battery issue not long ago 
>>>>>>>>> that puzzled me.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Surprisingly after doing the update my phone lasted nearly 50 hours 
>>>>>>>>> before dying and needing a charge. I am curious to find out if that 
>>>>>>>>> was just a ha, good luck day after the upgrade since I'm letting it 
>>>>>>>>> do a complete recharge now since I don't need to go anywhere today it 
>>>>>>>>> can sit and charge and I'll see if I'm lucky again.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> May and Prince Noah
>>>>>>>>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-09-21, at 2:52 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah Ed I think that might be the problem, as I do have a lot of 
>>>>>>>>>> apps. I just turned it off, so will see how that affects the 
>>>>>>>>>> battery. Thanks again
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Edward Green <ergreen1...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Brian,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> YOu may want to try and experiment with background refresh.  YOu 
>>>>>>>>>>> can control whether individual apps refresh in the background or 
>>>>>>>>>>> not.  I believe the idea of this feature is to save you time when 
>>>>>>>>>>> opening apps, and the phone will learn your routines for doing this 
>>>>>>>>>>> so that the apps refresh appropriately.  However, it sounds as 
>>>>>>>>>>> though some of them may be refreshing more than you want.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21 Sep 2013, at 19:25, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> For the most part I really am loving IOS 7. The one thing that is 
>>>>>>>>>>>> a concern is the battery life is horrible. I typically made it 
>>>>>>>>>>>> through almost the entire day with not really needing to charge my 
>>>>>>>>>>>> phone. Yesterday, I barely used it and I had to charge it twice. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> am using an iPhone 4S on IOS 7, and know some of you have some 
>>>>>>>>>>>> fantastic info, and was hoping someone might be able to compile a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> list of checks to use to get the best battery life. I have turned 
>>>>>>>>>>>> that new motion option on as I read that saves some battery life. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have closed a lot of the apps in the app switcher especially all 
>>>>>>>>>>>> GPS apps. I saw someone mention turning off background refresh 
>>>>>>>>>>>> might save battery life. What am I losing by turning that off, as 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought that was one of the new features that iPhone was 
>>>>>>>>>>>> pushing, so by turning off I would like to know what I am 
>>>>>>>>>>>> disabling. I assume it means apps will only refresh when I open 
>>>>>>>>>>>> them, as I have noticed through out the day I would hear Downcast 
>>>>>>>>>>>> refresh which I thought was odd, as I have it set to refresh every 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 hours and usually manually refresh it. I do have about 200 apps 
>>>>>>>>>>>> on my phone so if they are constantly trying to refresh I could 
>>>>>>>>>>>> see that killing my battery. I have my screen curtain turned on 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and screen brightness turned down to 33%. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, if anyone got an iPhone 5S can you let us know howe the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> battery life is? I plan to get one when the craze dies down, but 
>>>>>>>>>>>> want to find out if people are having serious battery issues or 
>>>>>>>>>>>> any other problems.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks all
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